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Dual boot after the fact

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Alpha, Jun 26, 2010.

  1. Alpha

    Alpha Flightless Bird

    Installed Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit successfully on one machine.
    We still have the original Windows XP Pro SP3 Acronis image stored on a
    second hard drive on that PC. (It has two hard drives - one is for the OS,
    the other for data plus the page file).
    We know we can create a new system drive active partition by resizing the
    current Windows 7 one, and restore the Windows XP image to it.
    Will that make it a dual-boot PC by itself?
    Or, what else has to be done? Like modifying their boot files, for instance.
    And how?
    We wish to avoid a solution that avoids reinstalling either OS.
    We did not envision a dual-boot scenario earlier.
    Regards and TIA.
    Alpha
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  2. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Flightless Bird

    Windows 7 Enterprise ? Contact the contact number that can answer the VL version
    that was supplied with your purchase

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    "Alpha" <alpha@do.not.respond> wrote in message
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    >
    > Installed Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit successfully on one machine.
    > We still have the original Windows XP Pro SP3 Acronis image stored on a
    > second hard drive on that PC. (It has two hard drives - one is for the OS,
    > the other for data plus the page file).
    > We know we can create a new system drive active partition by resizing the
    > current Windows 7 one, and restore the Windows XP image to it.
    > Will that make it a dual-boot PC by itself?
    > Or, what else has to be done? Like modifying their boot files, for instance.
    > And how?
    > We wish to avoid a solution that avoids reinstalling either OS.
    > We did not envision a dual-boot scenario earlier.
    > Regards and TIA.
    > Alpha
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  3. Alpha

    Alpha Flightless Bird

    "Peter Foldes" <maci252211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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    > Windows 7 Enterprise ? Contact the contact number that can answer the VL
    > version that was supplied with your purchase
    >
    > --
    > Peter


    Was not purchased. Downloaded from Microsoft under the 90-day trial offer.
    There is no contact number supplied with it though.
    ALAFAICS
    :)
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/cc442495.aspx?ITPID=bieb

    Thanks and regards.
    Alpha
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    > "Alpha" <alpha@do.not.respond> wrote in message
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    >>
    >> Installed Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit successfully on one machine.
    >> We still have the original Windows XP Pro SP3 Acronis image stored on a
    >> second hard drive on that PC. (It has two hard drives - one is for the
    >> OS,
    >> the other for data plus the page file).
    >> We know we can create a new system drive active partition by resizing the
    >> current Windows 7 one, and restore the Windows XP image to it.
    >> Will that make it a dual-boot PC by itself?
    >> Or, what else has to be done? Like modifying their boot files, for
    >> instance.
    >> And how?
    >> We wish to avoid a solution that avoids reinstalling either OS.
    >> We did not envision a dual-boot scenario earlier.
    >> Regards and TIA.
    >> Alpha
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  4. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 6/26/2010 6:38 AM, Peter Foldes wrote:
    > Windows 7 Enterprise ? Contact the contact number that can answer the VL
    > version that was supplied with your purchase
    >

    You have no idea what the OP is talking about do you.
    Oops!
     
  5. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 6/26/2010 6:24 AM, Alpha wrote:
    > Installed Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit successfully on one machine.
    > We still have the original Windows XP Pro SP3 Acronis image stored on a
    > second hard drive on that PC. (It has two hard drives - one is for the OS,
    > the other for data plus the page file).
    > We know we can create a new system drive active partition by resizing the
    > current Windows 7 one, and restore the Windows XP image to it.
    > Will that make it a dual-boot PC by itself?
    > Or, what else has to be done? Like modifying their boot files, for instance.
    > And how?
    > We wish to avoid a solution that avoids reinstalling either OS.
    > We did not envision a dual-boot scenario earlier.
    > Regards and TIA.
    > Alpha
    > --------
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    You can restore the XP image to the partition but before doing that I
    suggest you dl & install EasyBCD, a Windows 7 boot manager, on Windows 7:

    http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1

    Then after you've restored the XP image, boot to 7 and open EasyBCD and
    put XP into the boot manager.
    HTH
     
  6. Alpha

    Alpha Flightless Bird

    My response at bottom:
    "Frank" <fb@esd.clm> wrote in message news:4c264122$1@news.x-privat.org...
    > On 6/26/2010 6:24 AM, Alpha wrote:
    >> Installed Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit successfully on one machine.
    >> We still have the original Windows XP Pro SP3 Acronis image stored on a
    >> second hard drive on that PC. (It has two hard drives - one is for the
    >> OS,
    >> the other for data plus the page file).
    >> We know we can create a new system drive active partition by resizing the
    >> current Windows 7 one, and restore the Windows XP image to it.
    >> Will that make it a dual-boot PC by itself?
    >> Or, what else has to be done? Like modifying their boot files, for
    >> instance.
    >> And how?
    >> We wish to avoid a solution that avoids reinstalling either OS.
    >> We did not envision a dual-boot scenario earlier.
    >> Regards and TIA.
    >> Alpha
    >> --------



    > You can restore the XP image to the partition but before doing that I
    > suggest you dl & install EasyBCD, a Windows 7 boot manager, on Windows 7:
    >
    > http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
    >
    > Then after you've restored the XP image, boot to 7 and open EasyBCD and
    > put XP into the boot manager.
    > HTH



    Thanks for the helpful response.
    That makes sense and I think I can handle the task.
    Will do so in a day or so. Will post back!
    Regards.
    :)
    Alpha
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  7. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Flightless Bird

    Windows 7 Enterprise either as a Trial or not is a VL version and as such different
    from other Win 7 versions.

    What Frank posted to you as the answer is not valid. W7 Enterprise does not
    recognize another OS when installed as second or on another partition.Most probably
    you need to assign the order of install on the secondary drive or partition which
    you are missing. Also the VL version needs Administrator rights which is not
    available in the Trial version

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    "Alpha" <alpha@do.not.respond> wrote in message
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    > "Peter Foldes" <maci252211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:i04vtm$pov$1@speranza.aioe.org...
    >> Windows 7 Enterprise ? Contact the contact number that can answer the VL
    >> version that was supplied with your purchase
    >>
    >> --
    >> Peter

    >
    > Was not purchased. Downloaded from Microsoft under the 90-day trial offer.
    > There is no contact number supplied with it though.
    > ALAFAICS
    > :)
    > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/cc442495.aspx?ITPID=bieb
    >
    > Thanks and regards.
    > Alpha
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    >> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
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    >> "Alpha" <alpha@do.not.respond> wrote in message
    >> news:i04v28$ohd$1@speranza.aioe.org...
    >>>
    >>> Installed Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit successfully on one machine.
    >>> We still have the original Windows XP Pro SP3 Acronis image stored on a
    >>> second hard drive on that PC. (It has two hard drives - one is for the
    >>> OS,
    >>> the other for data plus the page file).
    >>> We know we can create a new system drive active partition by resizing the
    >>> current Windows 7 one, and restore the Windows XP image to it.
    >>> Will that make it a dual-boot PC by itself?
    >>> Or, what else has to be done? Like modifying their boot files, for
    >>> instance.
    >>> And how?
    >>> We wish to avoid a solution that avoids reinstalling either OS.
    >>> We did not envision a dual-boot scenario earlier.
    >>> Regards and TIA.
    >>> Alpha
    >>> --------
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    >>>

    >>

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  8. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Flightless Bird

    Frank

    Huh? EasyBCD on the Enterprise version? I do not think so. Keep to what you do best
    ,and that is to show off your clown act

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    "Frank" <fb@esd.clm> wrote in message news:4c264122$1@news.x-privat.org...
    > On 6/26/2010 6:24 AM, Alpha wrote:
    >> Installed Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit successfully on one machine.
    >> We still have the original Windows XP Pro SP3 Acronis image stored on a
    >> second hard drive on that PC. (It has two hard drives - one is for the OS,
    >> the other for data plus the page file).
    >> We know we can create a new system drive active partition by resizing the
    >> current Windows 7 one, and restore the Windows XP image to it.
    >> Will that make it a dual-boot PC by itself?
    >> Or, what else has to be done? Like modifying their boot files, for instance.
    >> And how?
    >> We wish to avoid a solution that avoids reinstalling either OS.
    >> We did not envision a dual-boot scenario earlier.
    >> Regards and TIA.
    >> Alpha
    >> --------
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
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    >>

    > You can restore the XP image to the partition but before doing that I suggest you
    > dl & install EasyBCD, a Windows 7 boot manager, on Windows 7:
    >
    > http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
    >
    > Then after you've restored the XP image, boot to 7 and open EasyBCD and put XP
    > into the boot manager.
    > HTH
    >
     
  9. Jim

    Jim Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:24:18 -0700, "Alpha" <alpha@do.not.respond>
    wrote:

    >
    >Installed Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit successfully on one machine.
    >We still have the original Windows XP Pro SP3 Acronis image stored on a
    >second hard drive on that PC. (It has two hard drives - one is for the OS,
    >the other for data plus the page file).
    >We know we can create a new system drive active partition by resizing the
    >current Windows 7 one, and restore the Windows XP image to it.
    >Will that make it a dual-boot PC by itself?
    >Or, what else has to be done? Like modifying their boot files, for instance.
    >And how?
    >We wish to avoid a solution that avoids reinstalling either OS.
    >We did not envision a dual-boot scenario earlier.
    >Regards and TIA.
    >Alpha
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    Virtual hard drive ? One OS inside the original OS .
     
  10. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 6/26/2010 12:51 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
    > Windows 7 Enterprise either as a Trial or not is a VL version and as
    > such different from other Win 7 versions.
    >
    > What Frank posted to you as the answer is not valid. W7 Enterprise does
    > not recognize another OS when installed as second or on another
    > partition.


    You may be right, as I've never used a "trial or enterprise edition" of
    any MS OS.
    However, seeing as how your technical track record with me is 0 to 3, I
    demand you post the MS technical paper/FAQ that clearly state that as fact.
    Ok?

    Most probably you need to assign the order of install on the
    > secondary drive or partition which you are missing. Also the VL version
    > needs Administrator rights which is not available in the Trial version
    >
     
  11. Trimble Bracegirdle

    Trimble Bracegirdle Flightless Bird

    Alpha: IMO you need to be vary careful or it could end up in a number
    of possible messes.
    Win XP & Win 7 use the Boot up part of the Disc in significantly different
    ways.

    One good solution is to copy that XP install to one Hard Disc entirely
    separate from Win 7 . You could Forget about Dual Boot Managers.
    Then to boot one or the other by going into the BIOS setup at start up &
    selecting which of the two HD's is the Boot Disc.
    (\__/)
    (='.':]
    (")_(") mouse
     
  12. Alpha

    Alpha Flightless Bird

    "Trimble Bracegirdle" <no-spam@never.spam> wrote in message
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    > Alpha: IMO you need to be vary careful or it could end up in a number
    > of possible messes.
    > Win XP & Win 7 use the Boot up part of the Disc in significantly different
    > ways.
    >
    > One good solution is to copy that XP install to one Hard Disc entirely
    > separate from Win 7 . You could Forget about Dual Boot Managers.
    > Then to boot one or the other by going into the BIOS setup at start up &
    > selecting which of the two HD's is the Boot Disc.
    > (\__/)
    > (='.':]
    > (")_(") mouse


    We are coming to the same conclusion after the experimentation this morning
    and yesterday evening!
    Actually we might just restore XP to a reduced partition on the system drive
    and do a fresh install of Windows 7 Enterprise on the other partition.
    Then the Win 7 boot manager should automatically configure the right
    multi-boot situation.
    Which we here should have done in the first place!
    Regards and thanks again.
    :)
    Alpha
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