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Data Execution Prevention - Changes Settings Exposes Other Problem

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Zakhary, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. Zakhary

    Zakhary Flightless Bird

    I can't find the original post I had made about a week ago, so am posting a
    new.

    Whenever I attempt to open my "Printers and Faxes" folder in a window, Data
    Execution Prevention closes Windows Explorer. For some reason, this does not
    occur for any other folder I attempt to access, despite them all using
    Windows Explorer.

    I went ahead and changed the settings for DEP so that it would prevent the
    operation of programs other than Windows Explorer (i.e., Windows Explorer is
    excepted from DEP intervention). However, upon doing that, the problem was
    simply altered. Rather than DEP stopping Windows Explorer from operating,
    Windows Explorer crashes and I get the message that it has experienced a
    severe problem and needs to close. When I attempt to debug the program, it
    just freezes everything until I get convinced to turn off the machine.

    Any thoughts on a fix?? My searches continue to refer me to information
    about what DEP is and how to change its settings. Searches for reinstalling
    Windows Explorer have not given an avenue for doing so.

    --
    -Zakhary
     
  2. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    Re: Data Execution Prevention - Changes Settings Exposes OtherProblem

    On Jan 21, 2:52 am, Zakhary <Zakh...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    > I can't find the original post I had made about a week ago, so am postinga
    > new.
    >
    > Whenever I attempt to open my "Printers and Faxes" folder in a window, Data
    > Execution Prevention closes Windows Explorer.  For some reason, this does not
    > occur for any other folder I attempt to access, despite them all using
    > Windows Explorer.
    >
    > I went ahead and changed the settings for DEP so that it would prevent the
    > operation of programs other than Windows Explorer (i.e., Windows Exploreris
    > excepted from DEP intervention).  However, upon doing that, the problemwas
    > simply altered.  Rather than DEP stopping Windows Explorer from operating,
    > Windows Explorer crashes and I get the message that it has experienced a
    > severe problem and needs to close.  When I attempt to debug the program, it
    > just freezes everything until I get convinced to turn off the machine.
    >
    > Any thoughts on a fix??  My searches continue to refer me to information
    > about what DEP is and how to change its settings.  Searches for reinstalling
    > Windows Explorer have not given an avenue for doing so.
    >
    > --
    > -Zakhary


    DEP Data execution IE8

    Data Execution Prevention (DEP) messages mean that Windows feels
    threatened by some program running on
    your computer, so it shuts it down. This is actually a good thing
    since Windows recognizes the threat
    and is trying to prevent further damage.

    You could tell Windows that the program is okay (not good advice), but
    this is generally not a good idea since there is some other problem
    that needs to be corrected.

    You should first run some good scans for malicious software and see if
    that will correct the problem:

    Download, install, update and do a full scan with these free malware
    detection programs:

    Malwarebytes (MBAM): http://malwarebytes.org/
    SUPERAntiSpyware: (SAS): http://www.superantispyware.com/

    They can be uninstalled later if desired.

    After running the scans, be sure to reboot and then test.

    If it is Windows Explorer that is reporting the Data Execution
    Protection error, suspect a non Microsoft
    Explorer Shell Extension. Shell Extensions help make up the Right
    Click menu for files you see in Explorer.

    You can download ShellExView from here to see which ones you have
    loaded:

    http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html

    ShellExView doesn't install anything on your computer, it just runs
    and displays.

    When you launch it, the non MS extensions will be in light pink, but
    on some systems that is a
    hard color to see, so click View, Choose Columns and move the
    Microsoft column closer to the
    top so you can see it on your screen without having to scroll left and
    right.

    Sort the display by clicking the Microsoft column so all the "No"s are
    at the top and easy to see.

    I am not a trial and error advocate, but I can't think of another way
    to do this...

    Right click and disable the non Microsoft extensions one at a time
    keeping a list so you can enable
    them again later if desired. The result of the change is immediate and
    no reboot is required. Test your
    failure condition.

    If you recognize any extensions that may have been added or downloaded
    recently, start with those. The
    Extensions are not uninstalled, just disabled.

    The hope is that you will find the one Extension that causes the error
    and then you can figure out
    what to do about it.

    I don't have your issue but I can see that the Extension is
    immediately disabled, so disabling one
    does not require a reboot but if you find the culprit, I would reboot
    anyway to really be sure.
     
  3. Zakhary

    Zakhary Flightless Bird

    Re: Data Execution Prevention - Changed Settings Exposes Other Pro

    I have performed the malware scan, which found five suspects. One, in
    particular, was n the registry key and looked suspicious. However, the
    problem persists.

    You mention that "if it is Windows Explorer that is reporting the Data
    Execution Protection error, suspect a non Microsoft Explorer Shell Extension"
    and that "Shell Extensions help make up the Right Click menu for files you
    see in Explorer."

    Based on this definition of a shell extension, I'm having trouble
    understanding the relevance of them to my problem. My problem has nothing to
    do with right-clicks. My only problem is an inability to open the "Printers
    and Faxes" folder. Again, all other folders, as well as Internet Explorer,
    function fine even though they all use Windows Explorer as their program.
    So, please explain more as to how shell extensions are relevant and why it is
    appropriate to conclude that these are the likely suspect if DEP interrupts
    Windows Explorer.

    --
    -Zakhary


    "Jose" wrote:

    > On Jan 21, 2:52 am, Zakhary <Zakh...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    > > I can't find the original post I had made about a week ago, so am posting a
    > > new.
    > >
    > > Whenever I attempt to open my "Printers and Faxes" folder in a window, Data
    > > Execution Prevention closes Windows Explorer. For some reason, this does not
    > > occur for any other folder I attempt to access, despite them all using
    > > Windows Explorer.
    > >
    > > I went ahead and changed the settings for DEP so that it would prevent the
    > > operation of programs other than Windows Explorer (i.e., Windows Explorer is
    > > excepted from DEP intervention). However, upon doing that, the problem was
    > > simply altered. Rather than DEP stopping Windows Explorer from operating,
    > > Windows Explorer crashes and I get the message that it has experienced a
    > > severe problem and needs to close. When I attempt to debug the program, it
    > > just freezes everything until I get convinced to turn off the machine.
    > >
    > > Any thoughts on a fix?? My searches continue to refer me to information
    > > about what DEP is and how to change its settings. Searches for reinstalling
    > > Windows Explorer have not given an avenue for doing so.
    > >
    > > --
    > > -Zakhary

    >
    > DEP Data execution IE8
    >
    > Data Execution Prevention (DEP) messages mean that Windows feels
    > threatened by some program running on
    > your computer, so it shuts it down. This is actually a good thing
    > since Windows recognizes the threat
    > and is trying to prevent further damage.
    >
    > You could tell Windows that the program is okay (not good advice), but
    > this is generally not a good idea since there is some other problem
    > that needs to be corrected.
    >
    > You should first run some good scans for malicious software and see if
    > that will correct the problem:
    >
    > Download, install, update and do a full scan with these free malware
    > detection programs:
    >
    > Malwarebytes (MBAM): http://malwarebytes.org/
    > SUPERAntiSpyware: (SAS): http://www.superantispyware.com/
    >
    > They can be uninstalled later if desired.
    >
    > After running the scans, be sure to reboot and then test.
    >
    > If it is Windows Explorer that is reporting the Data Execution
    > Protection error, suspect a non Microsoft
    > Explorer Shell Extension. Shell Extensions help make up the Right
    > Click menu for files you see in Explorer.
    >
    > You can download ShellExView from here to see which ones you have
    > loaded:
    >
    > http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html
    >
    > ShellExView doesn't install anything on your computer, it just runs
    > and displays.
    >
    > When you launch it, the non MS extensions will be in light pink, but
    > on some systems that is a
    > hard color to see, so click View, Choose Columns and move the
    > Microsoft column closer to the
    > top so you can see it on your screen without having to scroll left and
    > right.
    >
    > Sort the display by clicking the Microsoft column so all the "No"s are
    > at the top and easy to see.
    >
    > I am not a trial and error advocate, but I can't think of another way
    > to do this...
    >
    > Right click and disable the non Microsoft extensions one at a time
    > keeping a list so you can enable
    > them again later if desired. The result of the change is immediate and
    > no reboot is required. Test your
    > failure condition.
    >
    > If you recognize any extensions that may have been added or downloaded
    > recently, start with those. The
    > Extensions are not uninstalled, just disabled.
    >
    > The hope is that you will find the one Extension that causes the error
    > and then you can figure out
    > what to do about it.
    >
    > I don't have your issue but I can see that the Extension is
    > immediately disabled, so disabling one
    > does not require a reboot but if you find the culprit, I would reboot
    > anyway to really be sure.
    > .
    >
     

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