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Control Panel

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Panic, Jul 27, 2010.

  1. Panic

    Panic Flightless Bird

    I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened in
    Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window. If it
    says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose Large
    Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is easier
    for me to use.
    Try it.
     
  2. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 07/27/2010 06:31 PM, Panic wrote:
    > I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened in
    > Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    > separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window. If it
    > says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose Large
    > Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is
    > easier for me to use.
    > Try it.


    One of the first things I did when I opened the Control Panel was to
    change it to icons.

    --
    Alias
     
  3. rfdjr1@optonline.net

    rfdjr1@optonline.net Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:31:53 -0700, "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:

    >I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened in
    >Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    >separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window. If it
    >says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose Large
    >Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is easier
    >for me to use.
    >Try it.



    Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened up either.
     
  4. Joe Morris

    Joe Morris Flightless Bird

    <rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote:
    > "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:


    >>I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened in
    >>Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    >>separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window. If it
    >>says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose Large
    >>Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is
    >>easier
    >>for me to use.


    > Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened up either.


    Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the control panel names in
    columns instead of rows when in "icon" mode, other than by making the window
    so narrow that it has only one column?

    Joe Morris
     
  5. SC Tom

    SC Tom Flightless Bird

    "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:i2ns9b06pl@news1.newsguy.com...
    > <rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote:
    >> "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:

    >
    >>>I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened in
    >>>Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    >>>separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window. If
    >>>it
    >>>says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose Large
    >>>Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is
    >>>easier
    >>>for me to use.

    >
    >> Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened up either.

    >
    > Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the control panel names in
    > columns instead of rows when in "icon" mode, other than by making the
    > window so narrow that it has only one column?
    >
    > Joe Morris
    >

    I didn't know that could be done in any version. Well, not automatically,
    but I guess if you wanted to take the time, it could be done manually in XP.
    --
    SC Tom
     
  6. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Joe Morris wrote:
    > <rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote:
    >> "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:

    >
    >>> I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened in
    >>> Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    >>> separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window. If it
    >>> says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose Large
    >>> Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is
    >>> easier
    >>> for me to use.

    >
    >> Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened up either.

    >
    > Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the control panel names in
    > columns instead of rows when in "icon" mode, other than by making the window
    > so narrow that it has only one column?


    No, but if you find a way, be sure to post it!
    --
    Crash

    "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
    ~ Samuel Johnson ~
     
  7. Jeff Layman

    Jeff Layman Flightless Bird

    "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:KDV3o.40120$3%3.26404@newsfe23.iad...
    > Joe Morris wrote:
    >> <rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>> "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:

    >>
    >>>> I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened
    >>>> in
    >>>> Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    >>>> separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window. If
    >>>> it
    >>>> says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose
    >>>> Large
    >>>> Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is
    >>>> easier
    >>>> for me to use.

    >>
    >>> Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened up either.

    >>
    >> Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the control panel names in
    >> columns instead of rows when in "icon" mode, other than by making the
    >> window so narrow that it has only one column?

    >
    > No, but if you find a way, be sure to post it!


    Another change forced on us by Microsoft for reasons only they know.

    Ah, no, I think I _do_ know the reason. They are moving everything from
    word-based to icon based. Eventually, there won't even be a keyboard. Who
    needs letters when you do everything with icons?...

    --

    Jeff
     
  8. SC Tom

    SC Tom Flightless Bird

    "Jeff Layman" <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:i2po0s$n24$1@news.albasani.net...
    >
    > "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:KDV3o.40120$3%3.26404@newsfe23.iad...
    >> Joe Morris wrote:
    >>> <rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>>> "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened
    >>>>> in
    >>>>> Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    >>>>> separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window.
    >>>>> If it
    >>>>> says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose
    >>>>> Large
    >>>>> Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is
    >>>>> easier
    >>>>> for me to use.
    >>>
    >>>> Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened up either.
    >>>
    >>> Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the control panel names in
    >>> columns instead of rows when in "icon" mode, other than by making the
    >>> window so narrow that it has only one column?

    >>
    >> No, but if you find a way, be sure to post it!

    >
    > Another change forced on us by Microsoft for reasons only they know.
    >
    > Ah, no, I think I _do_ know the reason. They are moving everything from
    > word-based to icon based. Eventually, there won't even be a keyboard.
    > Who needs letters when you do everything with icons?...
    >
    > --
    >
    > Jeff


    For curiosity's sake, how was it done in previous versions? I don't see any
    'sort by column' setting on my XP machine.
    --
    SC Tom
     
  9. DGDevin

    DGDevin Flightless Bird

    "Jeff Layman" <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:i2po0s$n24$1@news.albasani.net...

    > Another change forced on us by Microsoft for reasons only they know.
    >
    > Ah, no, I think I _do_ know the reason. They are moving everything from
    > word-based to icon based. Eventually, there won't even be a keyboard.
    > Who needs letters when you do everything with icons?...


    I wish you were joking, but I suspect you might be right, and it isn't just
    Microsoft. I got a new car stereo recently and instead of buttons and knobs
    with clear labels and functions, I now have to deal with tiny buttons that
    call up menus and sub-menus and sub-sub-menus on a display screen. So
    instead of just turning a knob to adjust the bass, now I'd have to pull
    over, open the manual and call up the right menu to tweak the bass to my
    liking. I guess that's why the thing came with a remote control, it's the
    only way to change anything while keeping your eyes on the road.

    I remember when Favorites were displayed as a screenful of icons--I liked
    that. Now I have to scroll through lists searching for the website I want;
    how is that an improvement?

    I've been running Windows 7 for a week, and I'm still wondering exactly why
    I didn't get XP installed on this new computer....
     
  10. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:45:38 -0400, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:

    > Joe Morris wrote:
    >> <rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>> "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:

    >>
    >>>> I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened in
    >>>> Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    >>>> separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window. If it
    >>>> says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose Large
    >>>> Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is
    >>>> easier
    >>>> for me to use.

    >>
    >>> Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened up either.

    >>
    >> Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the control panel names in
    >> columns instead of rows when in "icon" mode, other than by making the window
    >> so narrow that it has only one column?

    >
    > No, but if you find a way, be sure to post it!


    Actually, you'd have to rewrite the program. How are you in C++?

    The reason it sorts in rows and not in columns is that it is *much* easier
    to do that in code. And it is hardly unique to Windows or even to Windows
    programs.

    I've always hated sorting in rows too...

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  11. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    news:1rkn1eru1no24$.1wy3e0ing4gky.dlg@40tude.net...
    > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:45:38 -0400, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >
    >> Joe Morris wrote:
    >>> <rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>>> "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened
    >>>>> in
    >>>>> Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    >>>>> separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window.
    >>>>> If it
    >>>>> says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose
    >>>>> Large
    >>>>> Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is
    >>>>> easier
    >>>>> for me to use.
    >>>
    >>>> Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened up either.
    >>>
    >>> Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the control panel names in
    >>> columns instead of rows when in "icon" mode, other than by making the
    >>> window
    >>> so narrow that it has only one column?

    >>
    >> No, but if you find a way, be sure to post it!

    >
    > Actually, you'd have to rewrite the program. How are you in C++?
    >
    > The reason it sorts in rows and not in columns is that it is *much* easier
    > to do that in code. And it is hardly unique to Windows or even to Windows
    > programs.
    >
    > I've always hated sorting in rows too...
    >
    > --
    > Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)


    As a matter of fact, next time you look at Control Panel, you might notice
    near the top of the window are some black triangles on either side of some
    words. If you look at the black triangle on the rhs of the words 'All
    Control Panel Items' and then left click on it, you will see a single column
    of items sorted alphabetically downwards, which is what the man wanted.
     
  12. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:14:17 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

    >On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:45:38 -0400, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >
    >> Joe Morris wrote:
    >>> <rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>>> "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened in
    >>>>> Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    >>>>> separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window. If it
    >>>>> says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose Large
    >>>>> Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is
    >>>>> easier
    >>>>> for me to use.
    >>>
    >>>> Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened up either.
    >>>
    >>> Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the control panel names in
    >>> columns instead of rows when in "icon" mode, other than by making the window
    >>> so narrow that it has only one column?

    >>
    >> No, but if you find a way, be sure to post it!

    >
    >Actually, you'd have to rewrite the program. How are you in C++?
    >
    >The reason it sorts in rows and not in columns is that it is *much* easier
    >to do that in code. And it is hardly unique to Windows or even to Windows
    >programs.
    >
    >I've always hated sorting in rows too...


    I used to do some (primarily VB5/VB6) programming back in the day, and
    I think this is one of those classic times where my ignorance didn't
    serve me well, or else it saved me, depending on your perspective. I
    didn't realize (until now) that sorting and displaying objects into
    multiple columns was supposed to be more difficult than sorting and
    displaying those same objects into multiple rows, so to me there was
    no difference in the level of effort between the two.

    Enumerate the set of objects, sort them as desired, get their
    dimensions, get the dimensions of the bounding container, print. If
    you're sorting by columns but printing in rows, the interim data
    collection will look a little funky, but the end result is as
    expected.

    I'm curious as to why this is programmatically difficult? I'm quite
    sure I didn't break any new ground. :)
     
  13. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:53:48 +0100, "johnbee"
    <johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote:

    >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:45:38 -0400, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>
    >>> Joe Morris wrote:
    >>>> Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the control panel names in
    >>>> columns instead of rows when in "icon" mode, other than by making the
    >>>> window
    >>>> so narrow that it has only one column?
    >>>
    >>> No, but if you find a way, be sure to post it!

    >>

    >As a matter of fact, next time you look at Control Panel, you might notice
    >near the top of the window are some black triangles on either side of some
    >words. If you look at the black triangle on the rhs of the words 'All
    >Control Panel Items' and then left click on it, you will see a single column
    >of items sorted alphabetically downwards, which is what the man wanted.


    I thought he wanted columns, (plural), not column, (singular).
     
  14. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:53:48 +0100, johnbee wrote:

    > "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:1rkn1eru1no24$.1wy3e0ing4gky.dlg@40tude.net...
    >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:45:38 -0400, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>
    >>> Joe Morris wrote:
    >>>> <rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>>>> "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>> I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened
    >>>>>> in
    >>>>>> Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    >>>>>> separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window.
    >>>>>> If it
    >>>>>> says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose
    >>>>>> Large
    >>>>>> Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is
    >>>>>> easier
    >>>>>> for me to use.
    >>>>
    >>>>> Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened up either.
    >>>>
    >>>> Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the control panel names in
    >>>> columns instead of rows when in "icon" mode, other than by making the
    >>>> window
    >>>> so narrow that it has only one column?
    >>>
    >>> No, but if you find a way, be sure to post it!

    >>
    >> Actually, you'd have to rewrite the program. How are you in C++?
    >>
    >> The reason it sorts in rows and not in columns is that it is *much* easier
    >> to do that in code. And it is hardly unique to Windows or even to Windows
    >> programs.
    >>
    >> I've always hated sorting in rows too...
    >>
    >> --
    >> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

    >
    > As a matter of fact, next time you look at Control Panel, you might notice
    > near the top of the window are some black triangles on either side of some
    > words. If you look at the black triangle on the rhs of the words 'All
    > Control Panel Items' and then left click on it, you will see a single column
    > of items sorted alphabetically downwards, which is what the man wanted.


    1. That has nothing to do with my post.

    2. Look at Joe Morris's post upthread for a remark related to what you
    said. He didn't seem to like the single-column method of sorting.

    3. On my Control Panel, the only black triangles are in the Address Bar,
    which I guess might be what you meant by "near the top of the window", and
    they don't manage to do quite what you claim. I have 55 items in the panel,
    and the most ambitious of the black triangles ("All Control Panel Items",
    like you said) shows only about 29 items. Just one example: "Quick Time
    (32-bit)" isn't in that drop-down menu.

    Incidentally and FWIW, most of the time I like the Category View.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  15. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:39 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

    > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:14:17 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    > <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:45:38 -0400, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>
    >>> Joe Morris wrote:
    >>>> <rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>>>> "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>> I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened in
    >>>>>> Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    >>>>>> separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window. If it
    >>>>>> says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose Large
    >>>>>> Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is
    >>>>>> easier
    >>>>>> for me to use.
    >>>>
    >>>>> Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened up either.
    >>>>
    >>>> Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the control panel names in
    >>>> columns instead of rows when in "icon" mode, other than by making the window
    >>>> so narrow that it has only one column?
    >>>
    >>> No, but if you find a way, be sure to post it!

    >>
    >>Actually, you'd have to rewrite the program. How are you in C++?
    >>
    >>The reason it sorts in rows and not in columns is that it is *much* easier
    >>to do that in code. And it is hardly unique to Windows or even to Windows
    >>programs.
    >>
    >>I've always hated sorting in rows too...

    >
    > I used to do some (primarily VB5/VB6) programming back in the day, and
    > I think this is one of those classic times where my ignorance didn't
    > serve me well, or else it saved me, depending on your perspective. I
    > didn't realize (until now) that sorting and displaying objects into
    > multiple columns was supposed to be more difficult than sorting and
    > displaying those same objects into multiple rows, so to me there was
    > no difference in the level of effort between the two.
    >
    > Enumerate the set of objects, sort them as desired, get their
    > dimensions, get the dimensions of the bounding container, print. If
    > you're sorting by columns but printing in rows, the interim data
    > collection will look a little funky, but the end result is as
    > expected.
    >
    > I'm curious as to why this is programmatically difficult? I'm quite
    > sure I didn't break any new ground. :)


    Your paragraph starting "Enumerate..." answers your question (but please
    see below).

    In other words, I meant "difficult" in comparison to just printing the list
    in order, n items per line. Of course that requires the difficult step of
    figuring out the value of n, or at least figuring out where the line ends
    :)

    I used difficult (by implication, in contrast to where I said "much
    easier") to mean "it requires a moment of thought and a tiny bit of
    effort", i.e., I was (intentionally) exaggerating for irony. Or is it
    sardonicism? I can never tell.

    I no longer quite remember (it's been a while), but I think on occasion I
    have presented output from a program in a list sorted by column.

    It's also even easier than you said above. Say you can compute that you
    need four columns and that there are m items. Let k = (m+3)/4. The first
    line gets items numbered 1, k+1, 2k+1, & 3k+1. Then print 2, k+2, 2k+2, &
    3k+2. Rinse and repeat as necessary. Be careful on the last line. This is
    in fact a restatement of what you said above, so of course it's not really
    easier.

    Note: I didn't debug the above :)

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  16. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:32:37 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

    >On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:39 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:14:17 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    >> <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:45:38 -0400, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Joe Morris wrote:
    >>>>> <rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>>>>> "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>> I didn't like the way Control Panel displays. I found that it opened in
    >>>>>>> Category View and I liked the old way where you could view each item
    >>>>>>> separately. Near the upper right there is a little View By window. If it
    >>>>>>> says Category View click on the arrow head on the right and choose Large
    >>>>>>> Icons or Small Icons. Yay! Now it looks the way I'm used to and is
    >>>>>>> easier
    >>>>>>> for me to use.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened up either.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the control panel names in
    >>>>> columns instead of rows when in "icon" mode, other than by making the window
    >>>>> so narrow that it has only one column?
    >>>>
    >>>> No, but if you find a way, be sure to post it!
    >>>
    >>>Actually, you'd have to rewrite the program. How are you in C++?
    >>>
    >>>The reason it sorts in rows and not in columns is that it is *much* easier
    >>>to do that in code. And it is hardly unique to Windows or even to Windows
    >>>programs.
    >>>
    >>>I've always hated sorting in rows too...

    >>
    >> I used to do some (primarily VB5/VB6) programming back in the day, and
    >> I think this is one of those classic times where my ignorance didn't
    >> serve me well, or else it saved me, depending on your perspective. I
    >> didn't realize (until now) that sorting and displaying objects into
    >> multiple columns was supposed to be more difficult than sorting and
    >> displaying those same objects into multiple rows, so to me there was
    >> no difference in the level of effort between the two.
    >>
    >> Enumerate the set of objects, sort them as desired, get their
    >> dimensions, get the dimensions of the bounding container, print. If
    >> you're sorting by columns but printing in rows, the interim data
    >> collection will look a little funky, but the end result is as
    >> expected.
    >>
    >> I'm curious as to why this is programmatically difficult? I'm quite
    >> sure I didn't break any new ground. :)

    >
    >Your paragraph starting "Enumerate..." answers your question (but please
    >see below).
    >
    >In other words, I meant "difficult" in comparison to just printing the list
    >in order, n items per line. Of course that requires the difficult step of
    >figuring out the value of n, or at least figuring out where the line ends
    >:)
    >
    >I used difficult (by implication, in contrast to where I said "much
    >easier") to mean "it requires a moment of thought and a tiny bit of
    >effort", i.e., I was (intentionally) exaggerating for irony. Or is it
    >sardonicism? I can never tell.
    >
    >I no longer quite remember (it's been a while), but I think on occasion I
    >have presented output from a program in a list sorted by column.
    >
    >It's also even easier than you said above. Say you can compute that you
    >need four columns and that there are m items. Let k = (m+3)/4. The first
    >line gets items numbered 1, k+1, 2k+1, & 3k+1. Then print 2, k+2, 2k+2, &
    >3k+2. Rinse and repeat as necessary. Be careful on the last line. This is
    >in fact a restatement of what you said above, so of course it's not really
    >easier.
    >
    >Note: I didn't debug the above :)


    Thanks, Gene. I see what you mean. Slightly more difficult in
    comparison to simple row printing, but not extremely difficult in
    practice.

    I'm thinking Microsoft could very easily achieve this level of
    difficulty, (after all, you and I were able to), but their focus
    groups probably never identified a desire for it.
     
  17. Joe Morris

    Joe Morris Flightless Bird

    "johnbee" <johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote:
    > "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
    >> Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>> Joe Morris wrote:
    >>>> <rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>>>> "Panic" <wrong@cox.net> wrote:


    >>>>>> Near the upper right there is a little View By window. If it says
    >>>>>> Category View click on the arrow head on
    >>>>>> the right and choose Large Icons or Small Icons.


    >>>>> Wow, thanks for that! I didn't like the way it opened
    >>>>> up either.


    >>>> Has anyone found a way to make Windows 7 sort the
    >>>> control panel names in columns instead of rows when
    >>>> in "icon" mode, other than by making the window so
    >>>> narrow that it has only one column?


    >>> No, but if you find a way, be sure to post it!


    >> Actually, you'd have to rewrite the program. How are you in C++?
    >>
    >> The reason it sorts in rows and not in columns is that it is *much*
    >> easier
    >> to do that in code. And it is hardly unique to Windows or even to Windows
    >> programs.


    > As a matter of fact, next time you look at Control Panel, you might notice
    > near the top of the window are some black triangles on either side of some
    > words. If you look at the black triangle on the rhs of the words 'All
    > Control Panel Items' and then left click on it, you will see a single
    > column of items sorted alphabetically downwards, which is what the man
    > wanted.


    Well...not quite. Two problems with that approach:

    1) it's unnecessary extra steps to produce a list that was trivially easy to
    set up in XP. Another word for that is "user-hostile."

    2) The list of control panels, at least on my system, is longer that the
    drop-down box, meaning that you have to take extra steps to scroll down,
    meaning that the entries at the top are no longer visible. This is
    especially an issue for users who don't know all about the guts of Windows
    and are just trying to *use* the computer to do their jobs.

    On my testbed the dropdown list displays eighteen control panels, ending in
    "Performance Information and Tools" meaning that to see the remaining twenty
    control panels (and this is a sterile testbed, missing the several
    applications that add their own entries) aren't shown by default.

    In summary: it's a wholly unnecessary irritation.

    Joe Morris
     
  18. Joe Morris

    Joe Morris Flightless Bird

    "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote:

    [wanting the control panel in Win7 to appear in alpha sort, in columns]

    > For curiosity's sake, how was it done in previous versions? I don't see
    > any 'sort by column' setting on my XP machine.


    No problem in XP. Open Control Panel, left-click the menu item VIEW ->
    DETAILS, click the column header "Name" until you see an upward-pointing
    triangle, then click VIEW -> LIST.

    (If you want to confuse someone, sort on the *comments* instead by clicking
    that column header!)

    Joe MOrris
     
  19. SC Tom

    SC Tom Flightless Bird

    "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:i2qjis030h1@news5.newsguy.com...
    > "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote:
    >
    > [wanting the control panel in Win7 to appear in alpha sort, in columns]
    >
    >> For curiosity's sake, how was it done in previous versions? I don't see
    >> any 'sort by column' setting on my XP machine.

    >
    > No problem in XP. Open Control Panel, left-click the menu item VIEW ->
    > DETAILS, click the column header "Name" until you see an upward-pointing
    > triangle, then click VIEW -> LIST.
    >
    > (If you want to confuse someone, sort on the *comments* instead by
    > clicking that column header!)
    >
    > Joe MOrris
    >

    That's not what I thought it would be. I was thinking "icons sorted by
    columns," but you're correct; that does sort in columns :)
    Thanks!
    --
    SC Tom
     
  20. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    On 28/07/2010 18:34, SC Tom wrote:

    >
    > For curiosity's sake, how was it done in previous versions? I don't see
    > any 'sort by column' setting on my XP machine.


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