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Command, Favorites and Menu Bars are blacked out

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by BerwynEd, Feb 7, 2010.

  1. BerwynEd

    BerwynEd Flightless Bird

    I am running Explore 8 and all my menu bars are blacked out. To see what I
    mean you can go here http://berwyned.com/screen.html

    Any ideas on what when srong and how I can fix it?
     
  2. Bill Bradshaw

    Bill Bradshaw Flightless Bird

    This problem has been going around for a long time. It shows up on my
    computer every once and a while. I do not know if it is the video card,
    video drivers, or IE 8. You would think by know somebody at Microsoft would
    have figured it out.
    --
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.

    BerwynEd wrote:
    > I am running Explore 8 and all my menu bars are blacked out. To see
    > what I mean you can go here http://berwyned.com/screen.html
    >
    > Any ideas on what when srong and how I can fix it?
     
  3. rob^_^

    rob^_^ Flightless Bird

    You would think someone at Stardoc or Alienware would have figured it out.

    "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote in message
    news:emii#$CqKHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > This problem has been going around for a long time. It shows up on my
    > computer every once and a while. I do not know if it is the video card,
    > video drivers, or IE 8. You would think by know somebody at Microsoft
    > would have figured it out.
    > --
    > <Bill>
    >
    > Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.
    >
    > BerwynEd wrote:
    >> I am running Explore 8 and all my menu bars are blacked out. To see
    >> what I mean you can go here http://berwyned.com/screen.html
    >>
    >> Any ideas on what when srong and how I can fix it?

    >
    >
     
  4. FrankV

    FrankV Flightless Bird

    Go to System Properties>Advanced>Settings>Visual Effects>Custom and blank
    the first four items. It may not be all 4 but it should fix the problem. Or
    go back to IE7 which also corrects it. I have XP so do not know if it is
    the same for any other OS.

    Frank

    "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote in message
    news:emii%23$CqKHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > This problem has been going around for a long time. It shows up on my
    > computer every once and a while. I do not know if it is the video card,
    > video drivers, or IE 8. You would think by know somebody at Microsoft
    > would have figured it out.
    > --
    > <Bill>
    >
    > Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.
    >
    > BerwynEd wrote:
    >> I am running Explore 8 and all my menu bars are blacked out. To see
    >> what I mean you can go here http://berwyned.com/screen.html
    >>
    >> Any ideas on what when srong and how I can fix it?

    >
    >
     
  5. AlPomey

    AlPomey Flightless Bird

    The problem is with IE8 and Windows Classic desktop theme. I'm using WinXP.
    Right click on the desktop, go to Properties, then Themes. Change it to
    Windows XP, click apply. The menu bars should be okay. Now you can
    immeidately change the desktop back to Windows Classic and the menu bars
    should be visible. You might have to do this each time you start IE8.

    "BerwynEd" wrote:

    > I am running Explore 8 and all my menu bars are blacked out. To see what I
    > mean you can go here http://berwyned.com/screen.html
    >
    > Any ideas on what when srong and how I can fix it?
    >
     
  6. Bill Bradshaw

    Bill Bradshaw Flightless Bird

    If you review the many postings you will see it is WinXP and Windows Classic
    theme users that have the problem. So don't you think maybe it is something
    in the WinXP program that is a problem?
    --
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.


    rob^_^ wrote:
    > You would think someone at Stardoc or Alienware would have figured it
    > out.
    > "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote in message
    > news:emii#$CqKHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> This problem has been going around for a long time. It shows up on
    >> my computer every once and a while. I do not know if it is the
    >> video card, video drivers, or IE 8. You would think by know
    >> somebody at Microsoft would have figured it out.
    >> --
    >> <Bill>
    >>
    >> Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.
    >>
    >> BerwynEd wrote:
    >>> I am running Explore 8 and all my menu bars are blacked out. To see
    >>> what I mean you can go here http://berwyned.com/screen.html
    >>>
    >>> Any ideas on what when srong and how I can fix it?
     
  7. rob^_^

    rob^_^ Flightless Bird

    Stardoc publish Windows Blinds and AlienGuise (for Alienware). These are
    desktop theme customization programs that tweak the system metrics.

    1000% sure.

    Other causes are
    1. applying XP themes to Vista
    2. applying third-party themes that have been incorrectly crafted
    3. applying third-party themes that contain font declarations that aren't
    installed on your machine (small font in search results pages). This problem
    seems prevalent in themes from Japanese Authors

    again 1000% sure.

    Yes. There is a problem with the Three-D objects in the System Metrics
    dialog. Change the background and font color of Three-D objects then go to
    Menu Objects... you will see that Menu objects will inherit the background
    color (because some menus are now also three-D object (toolbars, not classic
    windows menus) but not the font color.

    So
    Three-D objects - Background=Black, Font color = White
    if the user does not check then menu objects will be
    Menu objects - Background=Black (Inherited (from the Kernel) from 3D
    objects), font color=Black

    Windows Blinds and AlienGuise add entries to the Windows Startup and startup
    menu so the faulty desktop themes are reapplied each time windows is booted
    or the Desktop is refreshed.

    Regards.

    "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote in message
    news:uQVa9#OqKHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > If you review the many postings you will see it is WinXP and Windows
    > Classic theme users that have the problem. So don't you think maybe it is
    > something in the WinXP program that is a problem?
    > --
    > <Bill>
    >
    > Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.
    >
    >
    > rob^_^ wrote:
    >> You would think someone at Stardoc or Alienware would have figured it
    >> out.
    >> "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote in message
    >> news:emii#$CqKHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>> This problem has been going around for a long time. It shows up on
    >>> my computer every once and a while. I do not know if it is the
    >>> video card, video drivers, or IE 8. You would think by know
    >>> somebody at Microsoft would have figured it out.
    >>> --
    >>> <Bill>
    >>>
    >>> Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.
    >>>
    >>> BerwynEd wrote:
    >>>> I am running Explore 8 and all my menu bars are blacked out. To see
    >>>> what I mean you can go here http://berwyned.com/screen.html
    >>>>
    >>>> Any ideas on what when srong and how I can fix it?

    >
    >
     
  8. BerwynEd

    BerwynEd Flightless Bird

    Thanks for all the suggestions. Changing the themes on the fly seems to work
    but did come back the next time I started IE8 in the Classic desktop. when I
    checked the cutom set up as someone else mentioned I did not have any of the
    first 4 boxes checked. Will keep my eye on that suggestion. I think I will
    just go back to IE7 and be done with it. I tend to prefer Mozilla anyway.

    What really seems to be troubling is that I have another machine with IE8
    and Classic desktop view and IE8 works OK. All-in-all I am glad to hear that
    other are having the same problem and just maybe it will get microsofts to
    fix list.

    "AlPomey" wrote:

    > The problem is with IE8 and Windows Classic desktop theme. I'm using WinXP.
    > Right click on the desktop, go to Properties, then Themes. Change it to
    > Windows XP, click apply. The menu bars should be okay. Now you can
    > immeidately change the desktop back to Windows Classic and the menu bars
    > should be visible. You might have to do this each time you start IE8.
    >
    > "BerwynEd" wrote:
    >
    > > I am running Explore 8 and all my menu bars are blacked out. To see what I
    > > mean you can go here http://berwyned.com/screen.html
    > >
    > > Any ideas on what when srong and how I can fix it?
    > >
     
  9. Bill Bradshaw

    Bill Bradshaw Flightless Bird

    I am not trying to pick a fight. I have this problem once and a while on my
    computer running WinXP and Windows Classic theme. In fact had it today. I
    do not have the Blinds or Guise program. I have no problem with IE8 on my
    computer that runs Windows 7 Pro.
    --
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.

    rob^_^ wrote:
    > Stardoc publish Windows Blinds and AlienGuise (for Alienware). These
    > are desktop theme customization programs that tweak the system
    > metrics.
    > 1000% sure.
    >
    > Other causes are
    > 1. applying XP themes to Vista
    > 2. applying third-party themes that have been incorrectly crafted
    > 3. applying third-party themes that contain font declarations that
    > aren't installed on your machine (small font in search results
    > pages). This problem seems prevalent in themes from Japanese Authors
    >
    > again 1000% sure.
    >
    > Yes. There is a problem with the Three-D objects in the System Metrics
    > dialog. Change the background and font color of Three-D objects then
    > go to Menu Objects... you will see that Menu objects will inherit the
    > background color (because some menus are now also three-D object
    > (toolbars, not classic windows menus) but not the font color.
    >
    > So
    > Three-D objects - Background=Black, Font color = White
    > if the user does not check then menu objects will be
    > Menu objects - Background=Black (Inherited (from the Kernel) from 3D
    > objects), font color=Black
    >
    > Windows Blinds and AlienGuise add entries to the Windows Startup and
    > startup menu so the faulty desktop themes are reapplied each time
    > windows is booted or the Desktop is refreshed.
    >
    > Regards.
    >
    > "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote in message
    > news:uQVa9#OqKHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> If you review the many postings you will see it is WinXP and Windows
    >> Classic theme users that have the problem. So don't you think maybe
    >> it is something in the WinXP program that is a problem?
    >> --
    >> <Bill>
    >>
    >> Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.
    >>
    >>
    >> rob^_^ wrote:
    >>> You would think someone at Stardoc or Alienware would have figured
    >>> it out.
    >>> "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:emii#$CqKHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>>> This problem has been going around for a long time. It shows up on
    >>>> my computer every once and a while. I do not know if it is the
    >>>> video card, video drivers, or IE 8. You would think by know
    >>>> somebody at Microsoft would have figured it out.
    >>>> --
    >>>> <Bill>
    >>>>
    >>>> Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.
    >>>>
    >>>> BerwynEd wrote:
    >>>>> I am running Explore 8 and all my menu bars are blacked out. To
    >>>>> see what I mean you can go here http://berwyned.com/screen.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Any ideas on what when srong and how I can fix it?
     
  10. rob^_^

    rob^_^ Flightless Bird

    Hi,

    Yep no bar fights... intended..

    Here's a link to an article I wrote
    http://iecustomizer.com/Resources/Articles/BlackToolbars.aspx

    It will show you the steps to reproduce black toolbars through XP to Win7. I
    know it exists, no doubt about it, but it is not limited to IE as the
    article explains. You don't necessarily have to have installed any third
    party desktop themes or software.

    I may be wrong or there may be other reasons so let us know if you cannot
    fix it by either restoring Windows Classic or XP Themes or changing the Font
    color of Menu objects in the Windows Colors Control Panel.

    Regards.

    "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote in message
    news:-O560bTWqKHA.5116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > I am not trying to pick a fight. I have this problem once and a while on
    > my computer running WinXP and Windows Classic theme. In fact had it
    > today. I do not have the Blinds or Guise program. I have no problem with
    > IE8 on my computer that runs Windows 7 Pro.
    > --
    > <Bill>
    >
    > Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.
    >
    > rob^_^ wrote:
    >> Stardoc publish Windows Blinds and AlienGuise (for Alienware). These
    >> are desktop theme customization programs that tweak the system
    >> metrics.
    >> 1000% sure.
    >>
    >> Other causes are
    >> 1. applying XP themes to Vista
    >> 2. applying third-party themes that have been incorrectly crafted
    >> 3. applying third-party themes that contain font declarations that
    >> aren't installed on your machine (small font in search results
    >> pages). This problem seems prevalent in themes from Japanese Authors
    >>
    >> again 1000% sure.
    >>
    >> Yes. There is a problem with the Three-D objects in the System Metrics
    >> dialog. Change the background and font color of Three-D objects then
    >> go to Menu Objects... you will see that Menu objects will inherit the
    >> background color (because some menus are now also three-D object
    >> (toolbars, not classic windows menus) but not the font color.
    >>
    >> So
    >> Three-D objects - Background=Black, Font color = White
    >> if the user does not check then menu objects will be
    >> Menu objects - Background=Black (Inherited (from the Kernel) from 3D
    >> objects), font color=Black
    >>
    >> Windows Blinds and AlienGuise add entries to the Windows Startup and
    >> startup menu so the faulty desktop themes are reapplied each time
    >> windows is booted or the Desktop is refreshed.
    >>
    >> Regards.
    >>
    >> "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote in message
    >> news:uQVa9#OqKHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>> If you review the many postings you will see it is WinXP and Windows
    >>> Classic theme users that have the problem. So don't you think maybe
    >>> it is something in the WinXP program that is a problem?
    >>> --
    >>> <Bill>
    >>>
    >>> Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> rob^_^ wrote:
    >>>> You would think someone at Stardoc or Alienware would have figured
    >>>> it out.
    >>>> "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote in message
    >>>> news:emii#$CqKHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> This problem has been going around for a long time. It shows up on
    >>>>> my computer every once and a while. I do not know if it is the
    >>>>> video card, video drivers, or IE 8. You would think by know
    >>>>> somebody at Microsoft would have figured it out.
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> <Bill>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> BerwynEd wrote:
    >>>>>> I am running Explore 8 and all my menu bars are blacked out. To
    >>>>>> see what I mean you can go here http://berwyned.com/screen.html
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Any ideas on what when srong and how I can fix it?

    >
    >
    >
     
  11. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Flightless Bird

    Bill Bradshaw wrote:

    > I am not trying to pick a fight. I have this problem once and a while on my
    > computer running WinXP and Windows Classic theme. In fact had it today. I
    > do not have the Blinds or Guise program. I have no problem with IE8 on my
    > computer that runs Windows 7 Pro.


    From what I recall reading in past posts, those using the Classic theme and
    having the blacked out problem were due to those users updating their video
    drivers. Newer doesn't mean better. It just means some code to fix old
    problem and new code that might cause new problems. You may have to walk
    through old versions of your driver software to revert incrementally back
    through them to see when the problem goes away.
     
  12. Bill Bradshaw

    Bill Bradshaw Flightless Bird

    Interesting article. For me the problem is very intermittent. So it does
    not really bother me. It just shows up every once and a while and then goes
    away.
    --
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.

    rob^_^ wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > Yep no bar fights... intended..
    >
    > Here's a link to an article I wrote
    > http://iecustomizer.com/Resources/Articles/BlackToolbars.aspx
    >
    > It will show you the steps to reproduce black toolbars through XP to
    > Win7. I know it exists, no doubt about it, but it is not limited to
    > IE as the article explains. You don't necessarily have to have
    > installed any third party desktop themes or software.
    >
    > I may be wrong or there may be other reasons so let us know if you
    > cannot fix it by either restoring Windows Classic or XP Themes or
    > changing the Font color of Menu objects in the Windows Colors Control
    > Panel.
    > Regards.
     

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