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Can't install windows 7! Help!

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Roy Fenimore, Oct 7, 2010.

  1. Roy Fenimore

    Roy Fenimore Flightless Bird

    This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    thread, but I am desperate!

    I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD. It's the same
    story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but the HD
    activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple of
    hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but the
    screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything else.

    This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu. (But
    I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse and
    keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a time, I
    even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does anybody have a
    useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for weeks now.
     
  2. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Roy Fenimore" <rfeni@webspanning.net> wrote in message
    news:4cae101a$0$1870$c3e8da3$9f400e27@news.astraweb.com...
    > This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    > thread, but I am desperate!
    >
    > I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD. It's the same
    > story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    > screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but the HD
    > activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple of
    > hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but the
    > screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything else.
    >
    > This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu. (But
    > I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse and
    > keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a time, I
    > even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does anybody have a
    > useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for weeks now.


    Have you checked the memory ?
     
  3. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 10/07/2010 08:23 PM, Roy Fenimore wrote:
    > This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    > thread, but I am desperate!
    >
    > I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD.


    Where did you buy it?

    It's the same
    > story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    > screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but the HD
    > activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple of
    > hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but the
    > screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything else.


    Can you run an Ubuntu Live CD?

    >
    > This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu. (But
    > I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse and
    > keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a time, I
    > even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does anybody have a
    > useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for weeks now.


    Roy, try Linux Mint. You'll like it better than Ubuntu.

    --
    Alias
     
  4. Ed Cryer

    Ed Cryer Flightless Bird

    On 07/10/2010 20:22, Alias wrote:
    > On 10/07/2010 08:23 PM, Roy Fenimore wrote:
    >> This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    >> thread, but I am desperate!
    >>
    >> I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD.

    >
    > Where did you buy it?
    >
    > It's the same
    >> story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    >> screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but the HD
    >> activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple of
    >> hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but the
    >> screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything else.

    >
    > Can you run an Ubuntu Live CD?
    >
    >>
    >> This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu. (But
    >> I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse and
    >> keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a time, I
    >> even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does anybody have a
    >> useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for weeks now.

    >
    > Roy, try Linux Mint. You'll like it better than Ubuntu.
    >


    Does it have generic drivers to run my Netgear wireless dongle? I gave
    up with Ubuntu.

    Ed
     
  5. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Roy Fenimore" <rfeni@webspanning.net> wrote in message
    news:4cae101a$0$1870$c3e8da3$9f400e27@news.astraweb.com...
    > This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    > thread, but I am desperate!
    >
    > I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD. It's the same
    > story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    > screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but the HD
    > activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple of
    > hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but the
    > screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything else.
    >
    > This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu. (But
    > I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse and
    > keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a time, I
    > even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does anybody have a
    > useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for weeks now.


    I can give a couple of probably useless suggestions. First the most
    obvious: gently wash the disk in warmish water wiping with something soft
    and dry with a tissue or a clean linen teacloth. Or at least have a good
    look at the disk to ensure it is clean. Second (because you have another OS)
    it might be that the way you have the disk partitioned is no good: take a
    lot of care when you tell it where to install itself and use the supplied
    tools to configure the disk correctly.
     
  6. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 10/07/2010 09:46 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    > On 07/10/2010 20:22, Alias wrote:
    >> On 10/07/2010 08:23 PM, Roy Fenimore wrote:
    >>> This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    >>> thread, but I am desperate!
    >>>
    >>> I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD.

    >>
    >> Where did you buy it?
    >>
    >> It's the same
    >>> story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    >>> screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but
    >>> the HD
    >>> activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple of
    >>> hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but the
    >>> screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything else.

    >>
    >> Can you run an Ubuntu Live CD?
    >>
    >>>
    >>> This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu. (But
    >>> I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse and
    >>> keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a time, I
    >>> even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does anybody have a
    >>> useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for weeks now.

    >>
    >> Roy, try Linux Mint. You'll like it better than Ubuntu.
    >>

    >
    > Does it have generic drivers to run my Netgear wireless dongle? I gave
    > up with Ubuntu.
    >
    > Ed
    >


    No idea. I don't use that hardware. Try the Netgear web site and see if
    Netgear supports Linux.

    --
    Alias
     
  7. ray

    ray Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:23:22 +0000, Roy Fenimore wrote:

    > This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    > thread, but I am desperate!
    >
    > I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD. It's the same
    > story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    > screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but the
    > HD activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple
    > of hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but the
    > screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything else.
    >
    > This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu. (But
    > I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse and
    > keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a time, I
    > even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does anybody have a
    > useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for weeks now.


    Since it runs one OS well, even though you "don't like it", there would
    seem to be a number of things you could try. One poster mentioned
    checking RAM - that's probably worth while. Many Linux Live CD's have a
    mem check option - I'd recommend that.

    If it were Linux you were talking about, instead of MS, you could do an
    md5sum on the DVD to see if it is good or not. Failing that, you should
    check, visually, as best you can - as another poster mentioned. You might
    alert MS to the problem and see if they'd send you another disk to try -
    they probably won't.

    Another option would be to explain what it is that you don't like about
    Ubuntu. There are quite a number of other Linux distributions available
    which you might like better. If it's a matter of the GUI, there are
    several dozen different desktop environments available that you might
    prefer. Some are more like MS, others less so.
     
  8. a@b.c

    a@b.c Flightless Bird

    On 07 Oct 2010 18:23:22 GMT, Roy Fenimore <rfeni@webspanning.net>
    wrote:

    >This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    >thread, but I am desperate!
    >
    >I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD. It's the same
    >story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    >screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but the HD
    >activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple of
    >hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but the
    >screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything else.
    >
    >This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu. (But
    >I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse and
    >keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a time, I
    >even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does anybody have a
    >useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for weeks now.



    I would use something like Active Killdisk (the bootable CD version)
    to completely wipe the hard drive you want to install on. I have done
    this in the past and W7 installs fine on a disk which has been wiped
    with this program. You can use the Freeware version, it will be
    sufficient.

    http://www.killdisk.com
     
  9. Paul

    Paul Flightless Bird

    Roy Fenimore wrote:
    > This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    > thread, but I am desperate!
    >
    > I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD. It's the same
    > story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    > screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but the HD
    > activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple of
    > hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but the
    > screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything else.
    >
    > This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu. (But
    > I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse and
    > keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a time, I
    > even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does anybody have a
    > useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for weeks now.


    What storage devices are connected to the computer ?

    Obviously, you have a DVD drive.

    You have at least one hard drive.

    If you look in the BIOS, the hard drive is detected. It might be in
    AHCI or IDE mode or the like. Windows 7 can handle either case, via
    built-in drivers. RAID mode might be a different story. It's also possible,
    if you had hardware newer than the Windows 7 DVD, that the Plug and Play
    info isn't present on the installer DVD. In that case, I'd probably go back
    into the BIOS and use IDE mode, just to prove I can install *something*.

    Do you have any other storage devices ? An HP printer with a SD slot
    perhaps ? Any USB storage devices ? A built-in card reader ?
    Try to ensure the computer is as "simple" as possible, to try
    to get around this problem. Unplug the built-in card reader
    (internal USB cable). Unplug the printer. Don't give the install
    DVD any excuses to get hung up on some hardware in the box.

    *******

    There are some more ideas here. One person suggests dropping to the
    Command Prompt, by pressing "Shift" "F10". And then, using DiskPart,
    to quick format the drive (so it won't take too long). DiskPart
    takes a series of commands, which precisely specify what the tool
    is to do, so it's a bit more complicated than "format C:". But
    if you follow the logic in the example here, you'll get the idea
    pretty quickly. After that, you can try the install again.
    The quick format is going to wipe Ubuntu, so no going back...

    http://www.sevenforums.com/installa...-7-installation-doesnt-detect-hard-drive.html

    Now, if I was doing it, I wouldn't use DiskPart. Using the existing
    Ubuntu install, I'd have Ubuntu "commit suicide", by deleting the
    MBR. It would be something like this. This is the quickest way
    I know of, to fool an OS installer into thinking the disk is
    "factory fresh". (You can even do this, by booting the Ubuntu LiveCD,
    and running from the CD, while you erase the MBR.) You'd enter this
    command in Ubuntu, in a Terminal window. This wipes out the
    Primary partition table, and prevents booting, so when Ubuntu shuts
    down (or you press reset), there is no more Ubuntu on the hard drive :)
    And the command runs super-fast, so no waiting around for your
    "factory fresh" disk. When you realize how simple this is, you'll
    also realize why some people back up the MBR for safe keeping.

    sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1

    For that command to work, you have to adjust the "sda" part, so
    that it points at whatever your hard drive is. Your hard drive
    could be sda, sdb, sdc, ... or it could be hda, hdb, hdc and so
    on. Doing "df" or checking /etc/fstab with a text editor,
    may give you some hints. On occasion, I even get info by
    doing "ls /dev" and looking for sda1, sda2, as proof sda is
    being used. If you can't figure it out though, you can always
    go to the Command Prompt option on the Windows 7 installer DVD,
    and do the job with DiskPart. Just not as much fun :)

    And if you're doing this with multiple hard drives present - stop.
    Unplug the data cables on all the hard drives, except the one
    you're installing the OS on. I do that for safety, as it is all
    too easy to have an "accident" when multiple disks are present.

    Good luck,
    Paul
     
  10. Parko

    Parko Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 21:52:02 +0200, Alias wrote:

    > On 10/07/2010 09:46 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    >> On 07/10/2010 20:22, Alias wrote:
    >>> On 10/07/2010 08:23 PM, Roy Fenimore wrote:
    >>>> This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    >>>> thread, but I am desperate!
    >>>>
    >>>> I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD.
    >>>
    >>> Where did you buy it?
    >>>
    >>> It's the same
    >>>> story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    >>>> screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but
    >>>> the HD
    >>>> activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple
    >>>> of hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but
    >>>> the screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything
    >>>> else.
    >>>
    >>> Can you run an Ubuntu Live CD?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu.
    >>>> (But I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse
    >>>> and keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a
    >>>> time, I even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does
    >>>> anybody have a useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for
    >>>> weeks now.
    >>>
    >>> Roy, try Linux Mint. You'll like it better than Ubuntu.
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Does it have generic drivers to run my Netgear wireless dongle? I gave
    >> up with Ubuntu.
    >>
    >> Ed
    >>
    >>

    > No idea. I don't use that hardware. Try the Netgear web site and see if
    > Netgear supports Linux.


    Netgear *does not* support Linux, however you can install the Windows
    drivers using ndiswrapper which should be installed as a kernel module by
    default.
    Have a read:
    http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/
    NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide

    --
    Oh, bugger!
     
  11. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 10/08/2010 02:36 PM, Parko wrote:
    > On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 21:52:02 +0200, Alias wrote:
    >
    >> On 10/07/2010 09:46 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    >>> On 07/10/2010 20:22, Alias wrote:
    >>>> On 10/07/2010 08:23 PM, Roy Fenimore wrote:
    >>>>> This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    >>>>> thread, but I am desperate!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD.
    >>>>
    >>>> Where did you buy it?
    >>>>
    >>>> It's the same
    >>>>> story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    >>>>> screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but
    >>>>> the HD
    >>>>> activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple
    >>>>> of hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but
    >>>>> the screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything
    >>>>> else.
    >>>>
    >>>> Can you run an Ubuntu Live CD?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu.
    >>>>> (But I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse
    >>>>> and keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a
    >>>>> time, I even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does
    >>>>> anybody have a useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for
    >>>>> weeks now.
    >>>>
    >>>> Roy, try Linux Mint. You'll like it better than Ubuntu.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> Does it have generic drivers to run my Netgear wireless dongle? I gave
    >>> up with Ubuntu.
    >>>
    >>> Ed
    >>>
    >>>

    >> No idea. I don't use that hardware. Try the Netgear web site and see if
    >> Netgear supports Linux.

    >
    > Netgear *does not* support Linux, however you can install the Windows
    > drivers using ndiswrapper which should be installed as a kernel module by
    > default.
    > Have a read:
    > http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/
    > NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide
    >


    Thanks for the link

    --
    Alias
     
  12. Parko

    Parko Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:40:49 +0200, Alias wrote:

    > On 10/08/2010 02:36 PM, Parko wrote:
    >> On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 21:52:02 +0200, Alias wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 10/07/2010 09:46 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    >>>> On 07/10/2010 20:22, Alias wrote:
    >>>>> On 10/07/2010 08:23 PM, Roy Fenimore wrote:
    >>>>>> This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    >>>>>> thread, but I am desperate!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Where did you buy it?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It's the same
    >>>>>> story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a
    >>>>>> blank screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens
    >>>>>> then but the HD
    >>>>>> activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a
    >>>>>> couple of hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor
    >>>>>> moves, but the screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install
    >>>>>> or do anything else.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Can you run an Ubuntu Live CD?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu.
    >>>>>> (But I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the
    >>>>>> mouse and keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives
    >>>>>> one at a time, I even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing
    >>>>>> works. Does anybody have a useful suggestion? I've been trying to
    >>>>>> solve this for weeks now.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Roy, try Linux Mint. You'll like it better than Ubuntu.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> Does it have generic drivers to run my Netgear wireless dongle? I
    >>>> gave up with Ubuntu.
    >>>>
    >>>> Ed
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> No idea. I don't use that hardware. Try the Netgear web site and see
    >>> if Netgear supports Linux.

    >>
    >> Netgear *does not* support Linux, however you can install the Windows
    >> drivers using ndiswrapper which should be installed as a kernel module
    >> by default.
    >> Have a read:
    >> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/
    >> NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide
    >>
    >>

    > Thanks for the link


    You're welcome.



    --
    Oh, bugger!
     
  13. Ed Cryer

    Ed Cryer Flightless Bird

    On 08/10/2010 13:36, Parko wrote:
    > On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 21:52:02 +0200, Alias wrote:
    >
    >> On 10/07/2010 09:46 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    >>> On 07/10/2010 20:22, Alias wrote:
    >>>> On 10/07/2010 08:23 PM, Roy Fenimore wrote:
    >>>>> This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    >>>>> thread, but I am desperate!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD.
    >>>>
    >>>> Where did you buy it?
    >>>>
    >>>> It's the same
    >>>>> story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    >>>>> screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but
    >>>>> the HD
    >>>>> activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple
    >>>>> of hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but
    >>>>> the screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything
    >>>>> else.
    >>>>
    >>>> Can you run an Ubuntu Live CD?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu.
    >>>>> (But I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse
    >>>>> and keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a
    >>>>> time, I even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does
    >>>>> anybody have a useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for
    >>>>> weeks now.
    >>>>
    >>>> Roy, try Linux Mint. You'll like it better than Ubuntu.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> Does it have generic drivers to run my Netgear wireless dongle? I gave
    >>> up with Ubuntu.
    >>>
    >>> Ed
    >>>
    >>>

    >> No idea. I don't use that hardware. Try the Netgear web site and see if
    >> Netgear supports Linux.

    >
    > Netgear *does not* support Linux, however you can install the Windows
    > drivers using ndiswrapper which should be installed as a kernel module by
    > default.
    > Have a read:
    > http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/
    > NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide
    >


    Been there, done that, stayed up all night once trying to get it to
    work; joined a Linux group, got accused of being a Windoze troll,
    persevered against prejudice, finally realized that nobody else could
    get it working either.
    Reverted to WinXP.
    It's kind of nice to be a pioneer and flog your guts out trying to
    extend the horizons, a bit like doing crosswords and such.
    But you have to know when to give in for the sake of your health and sanity.

    Ed the Tryer
     
  14. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 10/08/2010 07:23 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    > On 08/10/2010 13:36, Parko wrote:
    >> On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 21:52:02 +0200, Alias wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 10/07/2010 09:46 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    >>>> On 07/10/2010 20:22, Alias wrote:
    >>>>> On 10/07/2010 08:23 PM, Roy Fenimore wrote:
    >>>>>> This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    >>>>>> thread, but I am desperate!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Where did you buy it?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It's the same
    >>>>>> story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a blank
    >>>>>> screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but
    >>>>>> the HD
    >>>>>> activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple
    >>>>>> of hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but
    >>>>>> the screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do anything
    >>>>>> else.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Can you run an Ubuntu Live CD?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu.
    >>>>>> (But I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the mouse
    >>>>>> and keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a
    >>>>>> time, I even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does
    >>>>>> anybody have a useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for
    >>>>>> weeks now.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Roy, try Linux Mint. You'll like it better than Ubuntu.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> Does it have generic drivers to run my Netgear wireless dongle? I gave
    >>>> up with Ubuntu.
    >>>>
    >>>> Ed
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> No idea. I don't use that hardware. Try the Netgear web site and see if
    >>> Netgear supports Linux.

    >>
    >> Netgear *does not* support Linux, however you can install the Windows
    >> drivers using ndiswrapper which should be installed as a kernel module by
    >> default.
    >> Have a read:
    >> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/
    >> NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide
    >>

    >
    > Been there, done that, stayed up all night once trying to get it to
    > work; joined a Linux group, got accused of being a Windoze troll,
    > persevered against prejudice, finally realized that nobody else could
    > get it working either.
    > Reverted to WinXP.
    > It's kind of nice to be a pioneer and flog your guts out trying to
    > extend the horizons, a bit like doing crosswords and such.
    > But you have to know when to give in for the sake of your health and
    > sanity.
    >
    > Ed the Tryer
    >
    >


    So instead of learning to not buy Netgear again, you blame Ubuntu.

    --
    Alias
     
  15. Ed Cryer

    Ed Cryer Flightless Bird

    On 08/10/2010 18:40, Alias wrote:
    > On 10/08/2010 07:23 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    >> On 08/10/2010 13:36, Parko wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 21:52:02 +0200, Alias wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On 10/07/2010 09:46 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    >>>>> On 07/10/2010 20:22, Alias wrote:
    >>>>>> On 10/07/2010 08:23 PM, Roy Fenimore wrote:
    >>>>>>> This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    >>>>>>> thread, but I am desperate!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I just spent $100 I don't have for a new Windows DVD.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Where did you buy it?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It's the same
    >>>>>>> story: "Windows is loading files"..."Starting Windows"...then a
    >>>>>>> blank
    >>>>>>> screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. Nothing happens then but
    >>>>>>> the HD
    >>>>>>> activity light on steadily--with an occasional blink. After a couple
    >>>>>>> of hours the hard drive light goes dark. The mouse cursor moves, but
    >>>>>>> the screen is still blank. Windows won't boot, install or do
    >>>>>>> anything
    >>>>>>> else.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Can you run an Ubuntu Live CD?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> This computer ran Windows 7 just fine before. It still runs Ubuntu.
    >>>>>>> (But I don't like Ubuntu.) I've disconnected everything but the
    >>>>>>> mouse
    >>>>>>> and keyboard and monitor. I've disconnected the hard drives one at a
    >>>>>>> time, I even tried getting a new DVD writer. Nothing works. Does
    >>>>>>> anybody have a useful suggestion? I've been trying to solve this for
    >>>>>>> weeks now.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Roy, try Linux Mint. You'll like it better than Ubuntu.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> Does it have generic drivers to run my Netgear wireless dongle? I gave
    >>>>> up with Ubuntu.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Ed
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> No idea. I don't use that hardware. Try the Netgear web site and see if
    >>>> Netgear supports Linux.
    >>>
    >>> Netgear *does not* support Linux, however you can install the Windows
    >>> drivers using ndiswrapper which should be installed as a kernel
    >>> module by
    >>> default.
    >>> Have a read:
    >>> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/
    >>> NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide
    >>>

    >>
    >> Been there, done that, stayed up all night once trying to get it to
    >> work; joined a Linux group, got accused of being a Windoze troll,
    >> persevered against prejudice, finally realized that nobody else could
    >> get it working either.
    >> Reverted to WinXP.
    >> It's kind of nice to be a pioneer and flog your guts out trying to
    >> extend the horizons, a bit like doing crosswords and such.
    >> But you have to know when to give in for the sake of your health and
    >> sanity.
    >>
    >> Ed the Tryer
    >>
    >>

    >
    > So instead of learning to not buy Netgear again, you blame Ubuntu.
    >


    No I didn't "blame" them. I tried my best.
    Well, that was some time ago and I've just been looking again for
    drivers; and found some here;
    http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices/USB

    Whether they will work or not I don't know. They probably will, but I
    just haven't got the time to start fiddling with them.

    Ed
     
  16. Roy

    Roy Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 20:47:29 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:

    >Roy Fenimore wrote:
    >> This is the same as the "Windows Won't boot even from repair disk"
    >> thread, but I am desperate!
    >>


    >*******
    >
    >There are some more ideas here. One person suggests dropping to the
    >Command Prompt, by pressing "Shift" "F10". And then, using DiskPart,
    >to quick format the drive (so it won't take too long). DiskPart
    >takes a series of commands, which precisely specify what the tool
    >is to do, so it's a bit more complicated than "format C:". But
    >if you follow the logic in the example here, you'll get the idea
    >pretty quickly. After that, you can try the install again.
    >The quick format is going to wipe Ubuntu, so no going back...
    >
    >http://www.sevenforums.com/installa...-7-installation-doesnt-detect-hard-drive.html
    >
    >Now, if I was doing it, I wouldn't use DiskPart. Using the existing
    >Ubuntu install, I'd have Ubuntu "commit suicide", by deleting the
    >MBR. It would be something like this. This is the quickest way
    >I know of, to fool an OS installer into thinking the disk is
    >"factory fresh". (You can even do this, by booting the Ubuntu LiveCD,
    >and running from the CD, while you erase the MBR.) You'd enter this
    >command in Ubuntu, in a Terminal window. This wipes out the
    >Primary partition table, and prevents booting, so when Ubuntu shuts
    >down (or you press reset), there is no more Ubuntu on the hard drive :)
    >And the command runs super-fast, so no waiting around for your
    >"factory fresh" disk. When you realize how simple this is, you'll
    >also realize why some people back up the MBR for safe keeping.
    >
    > sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
    >
    >For that command to work, you have to adjust the "sda" part, so
    >that it points at whatever your hard drive is. Your hard drive
    >could be sda, sdb, sdc, ... or it could be hda, hdb, hdc and so
    >on. Doing "df" or checking /etc/fstab with a text editor,
    >may give you some hints. On occasion, I even get info by
    >doing "ls /dev" and looking for sda1, sda2, as proof sda is
    >being used. If you can't figure it out though, you can always
    >go to the Command Prompt option on the Windows 7 installer DVD,
    >and do the job with DiskPart. Just not as much fun :)
    >
    >And if you're doing this with multiple hard drives present - stop.
    >Unplug the data cables on all the hard drives, except the one
    >you're installing the OS on. I do that for safety, as it is all
    >too easy to have an "accident" when multiple disks are present.
    >
    >Good luck,
    > Paul


    " sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1"!
    Oh, you NASTY man! You did it. I have Windows 7 again! And no more
    Ubuntu for me. Thank you, Paul.

    And thank you JohnBee, Ed Cryer, Ed-UK, etc. I tried all your
    suggestions and appreciate your help.
     

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