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Can't access bad certificate site

S

SteveH

Flightless Bird
Hello

I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always gives me a
certificate error but I can still get to it.

I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might be. What
settings do I need to check, please?

Thanks.

Steve
 
D

Dan

Flightless Bird
"SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:73B6AF28-5A6E-4C4B-8EEF-F022D871F859@microsoft.com...
> Hello
>
> I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always gives me a
> certificate error but I can still get to it.
>
> I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might be. What
> settings do I need to check, please?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Steve

Have you changed any settings in IE8? Mine offers me a choice to continue on
a "bad" certificate. What is the URL that is not working for you?

--
Dan
 
S

SteveH

Flightless Bird
Hello Dan

Thanks for your reply.

No, I don't think I have changed any settings, but I did have a Trojan
recently which took several days to remove.

The site is: https://exp.ourcp.com:8442/

Thanks

Steve



"Dan" wrote:

>
> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:73B6AF28-5A6E-4C4B-8EEF-F022D871F859@microsoft.com...
> > Hello
> >
> > I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always gives me a
> > certificate error but I can still get to it.
> >
> > I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might be. What
> > settings do I need to check, please?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Steve
>
> Have you changed any settings in IE8? Mine offers me a choice to continue on
> a "bad" certificate. What is the URL that is not working for you?
>
> --
> Dan
>
> .
>
 
D

Dan

Flightless Bird
Just tried that URL, my IE8 pops up page saying there is a problem with the
certificate. If I click Continue it loads the site, the root cert is not a
default trusted one from IE8 which is normal for a self issued cert.

Have you reset IE at all? Tools > Internet Options > Advanced tab, button at
the lower right. It will erase all autocomplete entries too though.

Dan


"SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AD70EF74-1D6A-47B6-A821-307A0A6BE9AB@microsoft.com...
> Hello Dan
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> No, I don't think I have changed any settings, but I did have a Trojan
> recently which took several days to remove.
>
> The site is: https://exp.ourcp.com:8442/
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> "Dan" wrote:
>
>>
>> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:73B6AF28-5A6E-4C4B-8EEF-F022D871F859@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello
>> >
>> > I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always gives me a
>> > certificate error but I can still get to it.
>> >
>> > I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might be. What
>> > settings do I need to check, please?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Steve
>>
>> Have you changed any settings in IE8? Mine offers me a choice to continue
>> on
>> a "bad" certificate. What is the URL that is not working for you?
>>
>> --
>> Dan
>>
>> .
>>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Windows version is...?

What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
subscription current, and is it working properly now? What anti-spyware
applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?

Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the
computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
it)?

Why is IE attempting to access the site via Port 8442?


SteveH wrote:
> No, I don't think I have changed any settings, but I did have a Trojan
> recently which took several days to remove.
>
> The site is: XXXX://exp.ourcp.com:8442/
>
>> Have you changed any settings in IE8? Mine offers me a choice to continue
>> on a "bad" certificate. What is the URL that is not working for you?
>>
>>> I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always gives me a
>>> certificate error but I can still get to it.
>>>
>>> I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might be. What
>>> settings do I need to check, please?
 
R

Rob

Flightless Bird
PA Bear [MS MVP] <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why is IE attempting to access the site via Port 8442?

Because there is a :8442 in the URL.
 
D

Dan

Flightless Bird
It's possible that your trojan removal has broken something in IE. Did you
try the reset?

Also, you might want to check the group policy settings to see if anything
has been changed, for instance:

1.Start the Group Policy tool (GPEdit.msc).
2.Expand the policy structure using the following path: Computer
Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Internet
Explorer\Internet Control Panel.
3.Double-click the Prevent ignoring certificate errors setting.
4.If it's Enabled, then set to Disabled.

This GP setting will, if set to Enabled, stop IE from showing the warning
page, it'll just simply not allow you to access the site.


However, I doubt it's this. Can you give any more details as to what "I
cannot access it from IE" actually means? Do you see any messages at all?
Can you get Fiddler2 and run a trace to see if IE even attempts to access
the URL? It's possible you still have parts of that trojan kicking around,
maybe a proxy that IE is forced to use that prevents accessing a
non-standard SSL port to prevent circumvention.

Dan




"SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AD70EF74-1D6A-47B6-A821-307A0A6BE9AB@microsoft.com...
> Hello Dan
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> No, I don't think I have changed any settings, but I did have a Trojan
> recently which took several days to remove.
>
> The site is: https://exp.ourcp.com:8442/
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> "Dan" wrote:
>
>>
>> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:73B6AF28-5A6E-4C4B-8EEF-F022D871F859@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello
>> >
>> > I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always gives me a
>> > certificate error but I can still get to it.
>> >
>> > I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might be. What
>> > settings do I need to check, please?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Steve
>>
>> Have you changed any settings in IE8? Mine offers me a choice to continue
>> on
>> a "bad" certificate. What is the URL that is not working for you?
>>
>> --
>> Dan
>>
>> .
>>
 
S

SteveH

Flightless Bird
Hello PA Bear

Using XP Pro. I don't think Norton/McAfee has been installed; Sophos has and
now I have Avast. I use an windows firewall only. All updates are current.
When that site loads successfully, it shows me the log-on page to a server.

Steve

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Windows version is...?
>
> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
> subscription current, and is it working properly now? What anti-spyware
> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
>
> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the
> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
> it)?
>
> Why is IE attempting to access the site via Port 8442?
>
>
> SteveH wrote:
> > No, I don't think I have changed any settings, but I did have a Trojan
> > recently which took several days to remove.
> >
> > The site is: XXXX://exp.ourcp.com:8442/
> >
> >> Have you changed any settings in IE8? Mine offers me a choice to continue
> >> on a "bad" certificate. What is the URL that is not working for you?
> >>
> >>> I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always gives me a
> >>> certificate error but I can still get to it.
> >>>
> >>> I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might be. What
> >>> settings do I need to check, please?
>
> .
>
 
S

SteveH

Flightless Bird
Hello Dan

I have reset the browser, but that didn't work. That is what I get:

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage

What you can try

Diagnose Connection Problems

More information

When I click 'Diagnose Connection problems', a dialogue box tells me that
Windows did not detect any problems with the connection. And in the log:

Last diagnostic run time: 06/16/10 09:37:38 HTTP, HTTPS, FTP Diagnostic
HTTP, HTTPS, FTP connectivity

info FTP (Passive): Successfully connected to ftp.microsoft.com.
info HTTP: Successfully connected to www.microsoft.com.
info HTTPS: Successfully connected to www.microsoft.com.

I have also looked at Group Policy - it is not configured.

What I have noticed is that since the Trojan (I believe it has gone), I am
unable to connect to the Internet by clicking on the IE logo (that has gone).
What I have to do it open a saved IE HTML file and type in the URL I want to
visit in the address bar.

I'll try to get Fiddler2 (but I have not heard of that one).

Thanks again, Dan.

Steve



"Dan" wrote:

> It's possible that your trojan removal has broken something in IE. Did you
> try the reset?
>
> Also, you might want to check the group policy settings to see if anything
> has been changed, for instance:
>
> 1.Start the Group Policy tool (GPEdit.msc).
> 2.Expand the policy structure using the following path: Computer
> Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Internet
> Explorer\Internet Control Panel.
> 3.Double-click the Prevent ignoring certificate errors setting.
> 4.If it's Enabled, then set to Disabled.
>
> This GP setting will, if set to Enabled, stop IE from showing the warning
> page, it'll just simply not allow you to access the site.
>
>
> However, I doubt it's this. Can you give any more details as to what "I
> cannot access it from IE" actually means? Do you see any messages at all?
> Can you get Fiddler2 and run a trace to see if IE even attempts to access
> the URL? It's possible you still have parts of that trojan kicking around,
> maybe a proxy that IE is forced to use that prevents accessing a
> non-standard SSL port to prevent circumvention.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AD70EF74-1D6A-47B6-A821-307A0A6BE9AB@microsoft.com...
> > Hello Dan
> >
> > Thanks for your reply.
> >
> > No, I don't think I have changed any settings, but I did have a Trojan
> > recently which took several days to remove.
> >
> > The site is: https://exp.ourcp.com:8442/
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dan" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:73B6AF28-5A6E-4C4B-8EEF-F022D871F859@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello
> >> >
> >> > I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always gives me a
> >> > certificate error but I can still get to it.
> >> >
> >> > I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might be. What
> >> > settings do I need to check, please?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >>
> >> Have you changed any settings in IE8? Mine offers me a choice to continue
> >> on
> >> a "bad" certificate. What is the URL that is not working for you?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> .
> >>
>
>
>
> .
>
 
D

Dan

Flightless Bird
"SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9495549F-A1A2-4DA9-8CEF-2AF6B547FC72@microsoft.com...
> Hello Dan
>
> I have reset the browser, but that didn't work. That is what I get:
>
> Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage
>
> What you can try
>
> Diagnose Connection Problems
>
> More information
>
> When I click 'Diagnose Connection problems', a dialogue box tells me that
> Windows did not detect any problems with the connection. And in the log:
>
> Last diagnostic run time: 06/16/10 09:37:38 HTTP, HTTPS, FTP Diagnostic
> HTTP, HTTPS, FTP connectivity
>
> info FTP (Passive): Successfully connected to ftp.microsoft.com.
> info HTTP: Successfully connected to www.microsoft.com.
> info HTTPS: Successfully connected to www.microsoft.com.
>
> I have also looked at Group Policy - it is not configured.
>
> What I have noticed is that since the Trojan (I believe it has gone), I am
> unable to connect to the Internet by clicking on the IE logo (that has
> gone).
> What I have to do it open a saved IE HTML file and type in the URL I want
> to
> visit in the address bar.

In that case something is still broken. Have you tried repairing IE from
Add/Remove Programs?

As to the diagnotic test, note that it only tests outgoing connections on
the standard HTTP, HTTPS and FTP ports.

I'd also check to see if a router/firewall configuration has been adjusted
to block access to that non-standard port number.

> I'll try to get Fiddler2 (but I have not heard of that one).

http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/

It's a debugging tool for viewing HTTP and HTTPS exchanges, very handy for
tracing problems with requests from browsers.

Dan

> Thanks again, Dan.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> "Dan" wrote:
>
>> It's possible that your trojan removal has broken something in IE. Did
>> you
>> try the reset?
>>
>> Also, you might want to check the group policy settings to see if
>> anything
>> has been changed, for instance:
>>
>> 1.Start the Group Policy tool (GPEdit.msc).
>> 2.Expand the policy structure using the following path: Computer
>> Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Internet
>> Explorer\Internet Control Panel.
>> 3.Double-click the Prevent ignoring certificate errors setting.
>> 4.If it's Enabled, then set to Disabled.
>>
>> This GP setting will, if set to Enabled, stop IE from showing the warning
>> page, it'll just simply not allow you to access the site.
>>
>>
>> However, I doubt it's this. Can you give any more details as to what "I
>> cannot access it from IE" actually means? Do you see any messages at all?
>> Can you get Fiddler2 and run a trace to see if IE even attempts to access
>> the URL? It's possible you still have parts of that trojan kicking
>> around,
>> maybe a proxy that IE is forced to use that prevents accessing a
>> non-standard SSL port to prevent circumvention.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:AD70EF74-1D6A-47B6-A821-307A0A6BE9AB@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello Dan
>> >
>> > Thanks for your reply.
>> >
>> > No, I don't think I have changed any settings, but I did have a Trojan
>> > recently which took several days to remove.
>> >
>> > The site is: https://exp.ourcp.com:8442/
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dan" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:73B6AF28-5A6E-4C4B-8EEF-F022D871F859@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hello
>> >> >
>> >> > I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always gives me
>> >> > a
>> >> > certificate error but I can still get to it.
>> >> >
>> >> > I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might be.
>> >> > What
>> >> > settings do I need to check, please?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> > Steve
>> >>
>> >> Have you changed any settings in IE8? Mine offers me a choice to
>> >> continue
>> >> on
>> >> a "bad" certificate. What is the URL that is not working for you?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Dan
>> >>
>> >> .
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>>
 
S

SteveH

Flightless Bird
Hello Dan

This is what I get in Fiddler:

Request Count: 1
Bytes Sent: 217
Bytes Received: 636

ACTUAL PERFORMANCE
--------------
ClientConnected: 12:37:45.718
ClientBeginRequest: 12:37:45.890
ClientDoneRequest: 12:37:45.937
Gateway Determination: 3109ms
DNS Lookup: 0ms
TCP/IP Connect: 1ms
ServerConnected: 12:37:49.156
FiddlerBeginRequest: 12:37:49.156
ServerGotRequest: 12:37:49.187
ServerBeginResponse: 12:37:49.500
ServerDoneResponse: 12:37:49.500
ClientBeginResponse: 12:37:49.515
ClientDoneResponse: 12:37:49.531

Overall Elapsed: 00:00:03.6406250

RESPONSE CODES
--------------
HTTP/200: 1

RESPONSE BYTES (by Content-Type)
--------------
~headers: 331
text/plain: 305

ESTIMATED WORLDWIDE PERFORMANCE
--------------
The following are VERY rough estimates of download times when hitting
servers based in WA, USA.


US West Coast (Modem - 6KB/sec)
---------------
Round trip cost: 0.10s
Elapsed Time: 0.10s


Japan / Northern Europe (Modem)
---------------
Round trip cost: 0.15s
Elapsed Time: 0.15s


China (Modem)
---------------
Round trip cost: 0.45s
Elapsed Time: 0.45s


US West Coast (DSL - 30KB/sec)
---------------
Round trip cost: 0.10s
Elapsed Time: 0.10s


Japan / Northern Europe (DSL)
---------------
Round trip cost: 0.15s
Elapsed Time: 0.15s


China (DSL)
---------------
Round trip cost: 0.45s
Elapsed Time: 0.45s


================
Learn more about HTTP performance at
http://www.fiddler2.com/redir/?id=HTTPPERF

I also removed IE in Add/Remove (it showed that my last IE activity was
sometime in May - not true, I posted here yesterday in IE).

Then downloaded it again, restarted PC, installed, restarted again, and in
Add/Remove I see IE there installed whith the date f my last IE activity -
same date in May!!

Steve

"Dan" wrote:

>
> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9495549F-A1A2-4DA9-8CEF-2AF6B547FC72@microsoft.com...
> > Hello Dan
> >
> > I have reset the browser, but that didn't work. That is what I get:
> >
> > Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage
> >
> > What you can try
> >
> > Diagnose Connection Problems
> >
> > More information
> >
> > When I click 'Diagnose Connection problems', a dialogue box tells me that
> > Windows did not detect any problems with the connection. And in the log:
> >
> > Last diagnostic run time: 06/16/10 09:37:38 HTTP, HTTPS, FTP Diagnostic
> > HTTP, HTTPS, FTP connectivity
> >
> > info FTP (Passive): Successfully connected to ftp.microsoft.com.
> > info HTTP: Successfully connected to www.microsoft.com.
> > info HTTPS: Successfully connected to www.microsoft.com.
> >
> > I have also looked at Group Policy - it is not configured.
> >
> > What I have noticed is that since the Trojan (I believe it has gone), I am
> > unable to connect to the Internet by clicking on the IE logo (that has
> > gone).
> > What I have to do it open a saved IE HTML file and type in the URL I want
> > to
> > visit in the address bar.
>
> In that case something is still broken. Have you tried repairing IE from
> Add/Remove Programs?
>
> As to the diagnotic test, note that it only tests outgoing connections on
> the standard HTTP, HTTPS and FTP ports.
>
> I'd also check to see if a router/firewall configuration has been adjusted
> to block access to that non-standard port number.
>
> > I'll try to get Fiddler2 (but I have not heard of that one).
>
> http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/
>
> It's a debugging tool for viewing HTTP and HTTPS exchanges, very handy for
> tracing problems with requests from browsers.
>
> Dan
>
> > Thanks again, Dan.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dan" wrote:
> >
> >> It's possible that your trojan removal has broken something in IE. Did
> >> you
> >> try the reset?
> >>
> >> Also, you might want to check the group policy settings to see if
> >> anything
> >> has been changed, for instance:
> >>
> >> 1.Start the Group Policy tool (GPEdit.msc).
> >> 2.Expand the policy structure using the following path: Computer
> >> Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Internet
> >> Explorer\Internet Control Panel.
> >> 3.Double-click the Prevent ignoring certificate errors setting.
> >> 4.If it's Enabled, then set to Disabled.
> >>
> >> This GP setting will, if set to Enabled, stop IE from showing the warning
> >> page, it'll just simply not allow you to access the site.
> >>
> >>
> >> However, I doubt it's this. Can you give any more details as to what "I
> >> cannot access it from IE" actually means? Do you see any messages at all?
> >> Can you get Fiddler2 and run a trace to see if IE even attempts to access
> >> the URL? It's possible you still have parts of that trojan kicking
> >> around,
> >> maybe a proxy that IE is forced to use that prevents accessing a
> >> non-standard SSL port to prevent circumvention.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:AD70EF74-1D6A-47B6-A821-307A0A6BE9AB@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello Dan
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your reply.
> >> >
> >> > No, I don't think I have changed any settings, but I did have a Trojan
> >> > recently which took several days to remove.
> >> >
> >> > The site is: https://exp.ourcp.com:8442/
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Dan" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:73B6AF28-5A6E-4C4B-8EEF-F022D871F859@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hello
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always gives me
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > certificate error but I can still get to it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might be.
> >> >> > What
> >> >> > settings do I need to check, please?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Steve
> >> >>
> >> >> Have you changed any settings in IE8? Mine offers me a choice to
> >> >> continue
> >> >> on
> >> >> a "bad" certificate. What is the URL that is not working for you?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Dan
> >> >>
> >> >> .
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> .
> >>
>
>
>
> .
>
 
D

Dan

Flightless Bird
"SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1CF32253-8433-4C32-A53D-0EE3A0F83E0C@microsoft.com...
> Hello Dan
>
> This is what I get in Fiddler:
>

That is all useless for this. You need to start it up, try to connect, and
view the URLs in the left pane. Then use the session inspector tabs to see
what is being passed back and forth. If you don't see the return data with
the login form then something is blocking outgoing access to that port
number.

What you posted is a performance test - that's nothing to do with HTTP
tracing, it's just a simple test for connectivity.

> I also removed IE in Add/Remove (it showed that my last IE activity was
> sometime in May - not true, I posted here yesterday in IE).
>
> Then downloaded it again, restarted PC, installed, restarted again, and in
> Add/Remove I see IE there installed whith the date f my last IE activity -
> same date in May!!

Don't uninstall/reinstall.

Dan

> Steve
>
> "Dan" wrote:
>
>>
>> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9495549F-A1A2-4DA9-8CEF-2AF6B547FC72@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello Dan
>> >
>> > I have reset the browser, but that didn't work. That is what I get:
>> >
>> > Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage
>> >
>> > What you can try
>> >
>> > Diagnose Connection Problems
>> >
>> > More information
>> >
>> > When I click 'Diagnose Connection problems', a dialogue box tells me
>> > that
>> > Windows did not detect any problems with the connection. And in the
>> > log:
>> >
>> > Last diagnostic run time: 06/16/10 09:37:38 HTTP, HTTPS, FTP Diagnostic
>> > HTTP, HTTPS, FTP connectivity
>> >
>> > info FTP (Passive): Successfully connected to ftp.microsoft.com.
>> > info HTTP: Successfully connected to www.microsoft.com.
>> > info HTTPS: Successfully connected to www.microsoft.com.
>> >
>> > I have also looked at Group Policy - it is not configured.
>> >
>> > What I have noticed is that since the Trojan (I believe it has gone), I
>> > am
>> > unable to connect to the Internet by clicking on the IE logo (that has
>> > gone).
>> > What I have to do it open a saved IE HTML file and type in the URL I
>> > want
>> > to
>> > visit in the address bar.
>>
>> In that case something is still broken. Have you tried repairing IE from
>> Add/Remove Programs?
>>
>> As to the diagnotic test, note that it only tests outgoing connections on
>> the standard HTTP, HTTPS and FTP ports.
>>
>> I'd also check to see if a router/firewall configuration has been
>> adjusted
>> to block access to that non-standard port number.
>>
>> > I'll try to get Fiddler2 (but I have not heard of that one).
>>
>> http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/
>>
>> It's a debugging tool for viewing HTTP and HTTPS exchanges, very handy
>> for
>> tracing problems with requests from browsers.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> > Thanks again, Dan.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dan" wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's possible that your trojan removal has broken something in IE. Did
>> >> you
>> >> try the reset?
>> >>
>> >> Also, you might want to check the group policy settings to see if
>> >> anything
>> >> has been changed, for instance:
>> >>
>> >> 1.Start the Group Policy tool (GPEdit.msc).
>> >> 2.Expand the policy structure using the following path: Computer
>> >> Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Internet
>> >> Explorer\Internet Control Panel.
>> >> 3.Double-click the Prevent ignoring certificate errors setting.
>> >> 4.If it's Enabled, then set to Disabled.
>> >>
>> >> This GP setting will, if set to Enabled, stop IE from showing the
>> >> warning
>> >> page, it'll just simply not allow you to access the site.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> However, I doubt it's this. Can you give any more details as to what
>> >> "I
>> >> cannot access it from IE" actually means? Do you see any messages at
>> >> all?
>> >> Can you get Fiddler2 and run a trace to see if IE even attempts to
>> >> access
>> >> the URL? It's possible you still have parts of that trojan kicking
>> >> around,
>> >> maybe a proxy that IE is forced to use that prevents accessing a
>> >> non-standard SSL port to prevent circumvention.
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:AD70EF74-1D6A-47B6-A821-307A0A6BE9AB@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hello Dan
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for your reply.
>> >> >
>> >> > No, I don't think I have changed any settings, but I did have a
>> >> > Trojan
>> >> > recently which took several days to remove.
>> >> >
>> >> > The site is: https://exp.ourcp.com:8442/
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > Steve
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Dan" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:73B6AF28-5A6E-4C4B-8EEF-F022D871F859@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Hello
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always gives
>> >> >> > me
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > certificate error but I can still get to it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might be.
>> >> >> > What
>> >> >> > settings do I need to check, please?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Steve
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Have you changed any settings in IE8? Mine offers me a choice to
>> >> >> continue
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> a "bad" certificate. What is the URL that is not working for you?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Dan
>> >> >>
>> >> >> .
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> .
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>>
 
R

Robert Aldwinckle

Flightless Bird
"SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1CF32253-8433-4C32-A53D-0EE3A0F83E0C@microsoft.com...
> Hello Dan
>
> This is what I get in Fiddler:


> RESPONSE CODES
> --------------
> HTTP/200: 1
>
> RESPONSE BYTES (by Content-Type)
> --------------
> ~headers: 331
> text/plain: 305


Looks like it worked. What was the test?


---
 
S

SteveH

Flightless Bird
Hello Dan

Managed to get Fiddler to work:

ACTUAL PERFORMANCE
--------------
ClientConnected: 08:46:44.062
ClientBeginRequest: 08:46:44.062
ClientDoneRequest: 08:46:44.062
Gateway Determination: 453ms
DNS Lookup: 0ms
TCP/IP Connect: 2ms
ServerConnected: 08:46:44.546
FiddlerBeginRequest: 08:46:44.546
ServerGotRequest: 08:46:44.546
ServerBeginResponse: 08:46:44.562
ServerDoneResponse: 08:46:44.578
ClientBeginResponse: 08:46:44.578
ClientDoneResponse: 08:46:44.578

Overall Elapsed: 00:00:00.5156250

Look's as if the connection is OK; it's just the actual browser, I think.

Steve



"Dan" wrote:

>
> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1CF32253-8433-4C32-A53D-0EE3A0F83E0C@microsoft.com...
> > Hello Dan
> >
> > This is what I get in Fiddler:
> >
>
> That is all useless for this. You need to start it up, try to connect, and
> view the URLs in the left pane. Then use the session inspector tabs to see
> what is being passed back and forth. If you don't see the return data with
> the login form then something is blocking outgoing access to that port
> number.
>
> What you posted is a performance test - that's nothing to do with HTTP
> tracing, it's just a simple test for connectivity.
>
> > I also removed IE in Add/Remove (it showed that my last IE activity was
> > sometime in May - not true, I posted here yesterday in IE).
> >
> > Then downloaded it again, restarted PC, installed, restarted again, and in
> > Add/Remove I see IE there installed whith the date f my last IE activity -
> > same date in May!!
>
> Don't uninstall/reinstall.
>
> Dan
>
> > Steve
> >
> > "Dan" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:9495549F-A1A2-4DA9-8CEF-2AF6B547FC72@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello Dan
> >> >
> >> > I have reset the browser, but that didn't work. That is what I get:
> >> >
> >> > Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage
> >> >
> >> > What you can try
> >> >
> >> > Diagnose Connection Problems
> >> >
> >> > More information
> >> >
> >> > When I click 'Diagnose Connection problems', a dialogue box tells me
> >> > that
> >> > Windows did not detect any problems with the connection. And in the
> >> > log:
> >> >
> >> > Last diagnostic run time: 06/16/10 09:37:38 HTTP, HTTPS, FTP Diagnostic
> >> > HTTP, HTTPS, FTP connectivity
> >> >
> >> > info FTP (Passive): Successfully connected to ftp.microsoft.com.
> >> > info HTTP: Successfully connected to www.microsoft.com.
> >> > info HTTPS: Successfully connected to www.microsoft.com.
> >> >
> >> > I have also looked at Group Policy - it is not configured.
> >> >
> >> > What I have noticed is that since the Trojan (I believe it has gone), I
> >> > am
> >> > unable to connect to the Internet by clicking on the IE logo (that has
> >> > gone).
> >> > What I have to do it open a saved IE HTML file and type in the URL I
> >> > want
> >> > to
> >> > visit in the address bar.
> >>
> >> In that case something is still broken. Have you tried repairing IE from
> >> Add/Remove Programs?
> >>
> >> As to the diagnotic test, note that it only tests outgoing connections on
> >> the standard HTTP, HTTPS and FTP ports.
> >>
> >> I'd also check to see if a router/firewall configuration has been
> >> adjusted
> >> to block access to that non-standard port number.
> >>
> >> > I'll try to get Fiddler2 (but I have not heard of that one).
> >>
> >> http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/
> >>
> >> It's a debugging tool for viewing HTTP and HTTPS exchanges, very handy
> >> for
> >> tracing problems with requests from browsers.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> > Thanks again, Dan.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Dan" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> It's possible that your trojan removal has broken something in IE. Did
> >> >> you
> >> >> try the reset?
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, you might want to check the group policy settings to see if
> >> >> anything
> >> >> has been changed, for instance:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1.Start the Group Policy tool (GPEdit.msc).
> >> >> 2.Expand the policy structure using the following path: Computer
> >> >> Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Internet
> >> >> Explorer\Internet Control Panel.
> >> >> 3.Double-click the Prevent ignoring certificate errors setting.
> >> >> 4.If it's Enabled, then set to Disabled.
> >> >>
> >> >> This GP setting will, if set to Enabled, stop IE from showing the
> >> >> warning
> >> >> page, it'll just simply not allow you to access the site.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> However, I doubt it's this. Can you give any more details as to what
> >> >> "I
> >> >> cannot access it from IE" actually means? Do you see any messages at
> >> >> all?
> >> >> Can you get Fiddler2 and run a trace to see if IE even attempts to
> >> >> access
> >> >> the URL? It's possible you still have parts of that trojan kicking
> >> >> around,
> >> >> maybe a proxy that IE is forced to use that prevents accessing a
> >> >> non-standard SSL port to prevent circumvention.
> >> >>
> >> >> Dan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:AD70EF74-1D6A-47B6-A821-307A0A6BE9AB@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hello Dan
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks for your reply.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No, I don't think I have changed any settings, but I did have a
> >> >> > Trojan
> >> >> > recently which took several days to remove.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The site is: https://exp.ourcp.com:8442/
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Steve
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Dan" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:73B6AF28-5A6E-4C4B-8EEF-F022D871F859@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Hello
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always gives
> >> >> >> > me
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > certificate error but I can still get to it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might be.
> >> >> >> > What
> >> >> >> > settings do I need to check, please?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Steve
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Have you changed any settings in IE8? Mine offers me a choice to
> >> >> >> continue
> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> a "bad" certificate. What is the URL that is not working for you?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Dan
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> .
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> .
> >>
>
>
>
> .
>
 
D

Dan

Flightless Bird
Why are you still messing with the performance stats? I clearly stated in my
previous reply that you need to look at the session inspectors to see if
there is a response from the server and if so, what the headers look like.

For an example of the bits to look at, try here:
http://img.informer.com/screenshots/36/36425_3.png

Dan


"SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4DE5F42B-269B-40D8-A84E-AE4C8207FF9E@microsoft.com...
> Hello Dan
>
> Managed to get Fiddler to work:
>
> ACTUAL PERFORMANCE
> --------------
> ClientConnected: 08:46:44.062
> ClientBeginRequest: 08:46:44.062
> ClientDoneRequest: 08:46:44.062
> Gateway Determination: 453ms
> DNS Lookup: 0ms
> TCP/IP Connect: 2ms
> ServerConnected: 08:46:44.546
> FiddlerBeginRequest: 08:46:44.546
> ServerGotRequest: 08:46:44.546
> ServerBeginResponse: 08:46:44.562
> ServerDoneResponse: 08:46:44.578
> ClientBeginResponse: 08:46:44.578
> ClientDoneResponse: 08:46:44.578
>
> Overall Elapsed: 00:00:00.5156250
>
> Look's as if the connection is OK; it's just the actual browser, I think.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> "Dan" wrote:
>
>>
>> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1CF32253-8433-4C32-A53D-0EE3A0F83E0C@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello Dan
>> >
>> > This is what I get in Fiddler:
>> >
>>
>> That is all useless for this. You need to start it up, try to connect,
>> and
>> view the URLs in the left pane. Then use the session inspector tabs to
>> see
>> what is being passed back and forth. If you don't see the return data
>> with
>> the login form then something is blocking outgoing access to that port
>> number.
>>
>> What you posted is a performance test - that's nothing to do with HTTP
>> tracing, it's just a simple test for connectivity.
>>
>> > I also removed IE in Add/Remove (it showed that my last IE activity was
>> > sometime in May - not true, I posted here yesterday in IE).
>> >
>> > Then downloaded it again, restarted PC, installed, restarted again, and
>> > in
>> > Add/Remove I see IE there installed whith the date f my last IE
>> > activity -
>> > same date in May!!
>>
>> Don't uninstall/reinstall.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > "Dan" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:9495549F-A1A2-4DA9-8CEF-2AF6B547FC72@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hello Dan
>> >> >
>> >> > I have reset the browser, but that didn't work. That is what I get:
>> >> >
>> >> > Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage
>> >> >
>> >> > What you can try
>> >> >
>> >> > Diagnose Connection Problems
>> >> >
>> >> > More information
>> >> >
>> >> > When I click 'Diagnose Connection problems', a dialogue box tells me
>> >> > that
>> >> > Windows did not detect any problems with the connection. And in the
>> >> > log:
>> >> >
>> >> > Last diagnostic run time: 06/16/10 09:37:38 HTTP, HTTPS, FTP
>> >> > Diagnostic
>> >> > HTTP, HTTPS, FTP connectivity
>> >> >
>> >> > info FTP (Passive): Successfully connected to ftp.microsoft.com.
>> >> > info HTTP: Successfully connected to www.microsoft.com.
>> >> > info HTTPS: Successfully connected to www.microsoft.com.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have also looked at Group Policy - it is not configured.
>> >> >
>> >> > What I have noticed is that since the Trojan (I believe it has
>> >> > gone), I
>> >> > am
>> >> > unable to connect to the Internet by clicking on the IE logo (that
>> >> > has
>> >> > gone).
>> >> > What I have to do it open a saved IE HTML file and type in the URL I
>> >> > want
>> >> > to
>> >> > visit in the address bar.
>> >>
>> >> In that case something is still broken. Have you tried repairing IE
>> >> from
>> >> Add/Remove Programs?
>> >>
>> >> As to the diagnotic test, note that it only tests outgoing connections
>> >> on
>> >> the standard HTTP, HTTPS and FTP ports.
>> >>
>> >> I'd also check to see if a router/firewall configuration has been
>> >> adjusted
>> >> to block access to that non-standard port number.
>> >>
>> >> > I'll try to get Fiddler2 (but I have not heard of that one).
>> >>
>> >> http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/
>> >>
>> >> It's a debugging tool for viewing HTTP and HTTPS exchanges, very handy
>> >> for
>> >> tracing problems with requests from browsers.
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >>
>> >> > Thanks again, Dan.
>> >> >
>> >> > Steve
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Dan" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> It's possible that your trojan removal has broken something in IE.
>> >> >> Did
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> try the reset?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also, you might want to check the group policy settings to see if
>> >> >> anything
>> >> >> has been changed, for instance:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1.Start the Group Policy tool (GPEdit.msc).
>> >> >> 2.Expand the policy structure using the following path: Computer
>> >> >> Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Internet
>> >> >> Explorer\Internet Control Panel.
>> >> >> 3.Double-click the Prevent ignoring certificate errors setting.
>> >> >> 4.If it's Enabled, then set to Disabled.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This GP setting will, if set to Enabled, stop IE from showing the
>> >> >> warning
>> >> >> page, it'll just simply not allow you to access the site.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However, I doubt it's this. Can you give any more details as to
>> >> >> what
>> >> >> "I
>> >> >> cannot access it from IE" actually means? Do you see any messages
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> all?
>> >> >> Can you get Fiddler2 and run a trace to see if IE even attempts to
>> >> >> access
>> >> >> the URL? It's possible you still have parts of that trojan kicking
>> >> >> around,
>> >> >> maybe a proxy that IE is forced to use that prevents accessing a
>> >> >> non-standard SSL port to prevent circumvention.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dan
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:AD70EF74-1D6A-47B6-A821-307A0A6BE9AB@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Hello Dan
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks for your reply.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > No, I don't think I have changed any settings, but I did have a
>> >> >> > Trojan
>> >> >> > recently which took several days to remove.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The site is: https://exp.ourcp.com:8442/
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Steve
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Dan" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:73B6AF28-5A6E-4C4B-8EEF-F022D871F859@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > Hello
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I am trying to access a https:// site. In Safari it always
>> >> >> >> > gives
>> >> >> >> > me
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> > certificate error but I can still get to it.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I cannot access it at all from IE 8 and wonder why that might
>> >> >> >> > be.
>> >> >> >> > What
>> >> >> >> > settings do I need to check, please?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Steve
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Have you changed any settings in IE8? Mine offers me a choice to
>> >> >> >> continue
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> a "bad" certificate. What is the URL that is not working for
>> >> >> >> you?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Dan
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> .
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> .
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> .
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>>
 
S

SteveH

Flightless Bird
Hello

Thanks again for your posts.

If I go to any Web site I get:

Under Request headers (client) I have:

Accept: image/gif, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/pjpeg,
application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel,
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword,
application/x-ms-application, application/x-ms-xbap,
application/vnd.ms-xpsdocument, application/xaml+xml, */*
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Accept-Language: en-gb
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0;
InfoPath.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152)

Under Cookies:

ASPSESSIONIDQQARRQSS=OFLFNCHDEGDOIPMFPDOFPLNI

Under transport:

Host: www.proofreading4students.com
Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive


If I go to the Web site with the bad certificate, I get the following in the
left pane:

# Result Protocol Host URL Body Caching Content-Type Process Comments Custom
2 0 HTTP CONNECT exp.ourcp.com:8442 0 iexplore:2700

and in the right pane under Request Headers:

CONNECT exp.ourcp.com:8442 HTTP/1.0

Cache:
Pragma: no-cache

Client:
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0;
InfoPath.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152)

Entity:
Content-Length: 0

Transport:
Host: exp.ourcp.com:8442
Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive

Steve
























"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>
>
> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1CF32253-8433-4C32-A53D-0EE3A0F83E0C@microsoft.com...
> > Hello Dan
> >
> > This is what I get in Fiddler:
>
>
> > RESPONSE CODES
> > --------------
> > HTTP/200: 1
> >
> > RESPONSE BYTES (by Content-Type)
> > --------------
> > ~headers: 331
> > text/plain: 305
>
>
> Looks like it worked. What was the test?
>
>
> ---
>
> .
>
 
D

Dan

Flightless Bird
And what about response headers? Are there any?

If not, then it means that the server never responds - so you really need to
start looking at something between your browser and the server, such as a
firewall, proxy server, or something else that is interfering/blocking the
responses.

Dan


"SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A114F805-BED4-482E-933F-3A38C470D63B@microsoft.com...
> Hello
>
> Thanks again for your posts.
>
> If I go to any Web site I get:
>
> Under Request headers (client) I have:
>
> Accept: image/gif, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/pjpeg,
> application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel,
> application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword,
> application/x-ms-application, application/x-ms-xbap,
> application/vnd.ms-xpsdocument, application/xaml+xml, */*
> Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
> Accept-Language: en-gb
> User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1;
> Trident/4.0;
> InfoPath.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152)
>
> Under Cookies:
>
> ASPSESSIONIDQQARRQSS=OFLFNCHDEGDOIPMFPDOFPLNI
>
> Under transport:
>
> Host: www.proofreading4students.com
> Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive
>
>
> If I go to the Web site with the bad certificate, I get the following in
> the
> left pane:
>
> # Result Protocol Host URL Body Caching Content-Type Process Comments
> Custom
> 2 0 HTTP CONNECT exp.ourcp.com:8442 0 iexplore:2700
>
> and in the right pane under Request Headers:
>
> CONNECT exp.ourcp.com:8442 HTTP/1.0
>
> Cache:
> Pragma: no-cache
>
> Client:
> User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1;
> Trident/4.0;
> InfoPath.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152)
>
> Entity:
> Content-Length: 0
>
> Transport:
> Host: exp.ourcp.com:8442
> Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "SteveH" <SteveH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1CF32253-8433-4C32-A53D-0EE3A0F83E0C@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello Dan
>> >
>> > This is what I get in Fiddler:
>>
>>
>> > RESPONSE CODES
>> > --------------
>> > HTTP/200: 1
>> >
>> > RESPONSE BYTES (by Content-Type)
>> > --------------
>> > ~headers: 331
>> > text/plain: 305
>>
>>
>> Looks like it worked. What was the test?
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> .
>>
 
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