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BIOS not recognizing HDD. Trying to install Windows XP Home. No Fl

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Brian V, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. Brian V

    Brian V Flightless Bird

    Got a new motherboard. ASUS M3N78-VM. Saved the RAM, CPU, DVD-ROM drive and
    HDD from an OEM.

    I have contacted my motherboard manufacturer, but thought I'd try here too.
    Maybe they would be unreliable.

    The HDD is not recognized in the BIOS and I cannot install Windows XP Home
    Edition.

    To install the chipsets and stuff I need a floppy drive. I do not have a
    floppy drive. I thought I was suppose to upgrade those once XP is installed.
    XP installs drivers and stuff on it's own, I thought they were suppose to
    work.

    I do not have a floppy drive. The install is asking for it. Can I get the
    install to let me use a usb flash drive or something to install the drivers
    or chipsets for my motherboard? The motherboard manual says with XP I need to
    use a floppy drive. Do I need to buy and install a floppy drive? Would a
    flash-card reader/floppy drive be recognized? I already have a flash-card
    reader.

    If I were to install a floppy drive: Do I need to do anything special? Would
    it be plug and play for procedures like installing chipsets or drivers to
    install windows and then updating the Floppy A: drivers once the OS is up and
    going?

    I doubt the SATA connections are dirty. It is fairly new. (less than one
    month).

    Can I just re-format the drive in an external enclosure from a laptop and
    the BIOS will recognize the drive?

    Have I wasted my money trying to install XP on a too new motherboard? I hope
    not.

    Should I pay techs to install all this stuff and just leave it alone?

    Ugg.

    Thank you. :)
     
  2. SC Tom

    SC Tom Flightless Bird

    "Brian V" <BrianV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:148BE74D-EBF2-4564-84BF-195CA3B98FBA@microsoft.com...
    > Got a new motherboard. ASUS M3N78-VM. Saved the RAM, CPU, DVD-ROM drive
    > and
    > HDD from an OEM.
    >
    > I have contacted my motherboard manufacturer, but thought I'd try here
    > too.
    > Maybe they would be unreliable.
    >
    > The HDD is not recognized in the BIOS and I cannot install Windows XP Home
    > Edition.
    >
    > To install the chipsets and stuff I need a floppy drive. I do not have a
    > floppy drive. I thought I was suppose to upgrade those once XP is
    > installed.
    > XP installs drivers and stuff on it's own, I thought they were suppose to
    > work.
    >
    > I do not have a floppy drive. The install is asking for it. Can I get the
    > install to let me use a usb flash drive or something to install the
    > drivers
    > or chipsets for my motherboard? The motherboard manual says with XP I need
    > to
    > use a floppy drive. Do I need to buy and install a floppy drive? Would a
    > flash-card reader/floppy drive be recognized? I already have a flash-card
    > reader.
    >
    > If I were to install a floppy drive: Do I need to do anything special?
    > Would
    > it be plug and play for procedures like installing chipsets or drivers to
    > install windows and then updating the Floppy A: drivers once the OS is up
    > and
    > going?
    >
    > I doubt the SATA connections are dirty. It is fairly new. (less than one
    > month).
    >
    > Can I just re-format the drive in an external enclosure from a laptop and
    > the BIOS will recognize the drive?
    >
    > Have I wasted my money trying to install XP on a too new motherboard? I
    > hope
    > not.
    >
    > Should I pay techs to install all this stuff and just leave it alone?
    >
    > Ugg.
    >
    > Thank you. :)


    First off, if the HDD is not being recognized in BIOS, you will not be able
    to install anything. There has to be a destination for any installation to
    work.
    If the drive was working before, then you have something setup wrong, either
    jumpers on the MB or some setting in BIOS. Are you replacing the MB in an
    already working machine, or are you building your own and salvaging your
    listed parts from other machines? If it's simply a replacement, and the
    chipset on the new board is the same or close to the same as the old board,
    you may not have to do an installation. Windows may come up and ask for
    newer drivers, in which case you can put the MB driver CD in and let it run.
    If the chipset is drastically different, you'll probably end up doing a
    reinstall. Hopefully you backed up all your programs. If you're trying to
    reinstall from an OEM CD like you get with a Dell, Compaq, etc., you may not
    have any success. They are usually tied to a particular set of hardware and
    can't be indiscriminately used on anything like a retail XP CD can.
    If it is a retail CD, and it's SP3, you shouldn't need any SATA drivers to
    start the installation. They're included in SP3. If you have access to
    another computer (which, from your post, I assume you do), you can
    slipstream SP3 onto an XP CD at SP1a or SP2. Here's a link on how to do
    that:
    How to Slipstream Windows XP Service Pack 3
    http://www.howtohaven.com/system/slipstream-xp-service-pack-3.shtml

    Good luck!
    --
    SC Tom
     
  3. philo

    philo Flightless Bird

    Re: BIOS not recognizing HDD. Trying to install Windows XP Home.No Fl

    Brian V wrote:
    > Got a new motherboard. ASUS M3N78-VM. Saved the RAM, CPU, DVD-ROM drive and
    > HDD from an OEM.
    >
    > I have contacted my motherboard manufacturer, but thought I'd try here too.
    > Maybe they would be unreliable.
    >
    > The HDD is not recognized in the BIOS and I cannot install Windows XP Home
    > Edition.


    Then it's time for you to read the manual that came with your mobo


    once you do that, I'd create a slipstreamed sp3 CD if you did not
    already do so...
    then the SATA drivers should all be present


    >
    > To install the chipsets and stuff I need a floppy drive. I do not have a
    > floppy drive. I thought I was suppose to upgrade those once XP is installed.
    > XP installs drivers and stuff on it's own, I thought they were suppose to
    > work.
    >
    > I do not have a floppy drive. The install is asking for it. Can I get the
    > install to let me use a usb flash drive or something to install the drivers
    > or chipsets for my motherboard? The motherboard manual says with XP I need to
    > use a floppy drive. Do I need to buy and install a floppy drive? Would a
    > flash-card reader/floppy drive be recognized? I already have a flash-card
    > reader.
    >
    > If I were to install a floppy drive: Do I need to do anything special? Would
    > it be plug and play for procedures like installing chipsets or drivers to
    > install windows and then updating the Floppy A: drivers once the OS is up and
    > going?
    >
    > I doubt the SATA connections are dirty. It is fairly new. (less than one
    > month).
    >
    > Can I just re-format the drive in an external enclosure from a laptop and
    > the BIOS will recognize the drive?
    >
    > Have I wasted my money trying to install XP on a too new motherboard? I hope
    > not.
    >
    > Should I pay techs to install all this stuff and just leave it alone?
    >
    > Ugg.
    >
    > Thank you. :)
     
  4. HeyBub

    HeyBub Flightless Bird

    Brian V wrote:
    > Got a new motherboard. ASUS M3N78-VM. Saved the RAM, CPU, DVD-ROM
    > drive and HDD from an OEM.
    >
    > I have contacted my motherboard manufacturer, but thought I'd try
    > here too. Maybe they would be unreliable.
    >
    > The HDD is not recognized in the BIOS and I cannot install Windows XP
    > Home Edition.
    >
    > To install the chipsets and stuff I need a floppy drive. I do not
    > have a floppy drive. I thought I was suppose to upgrade those once XP
    > is installed. XP installs drivers and stuff on it's own, I thought
    > they were suppose to work.
    >
    > I do not have a floppy drive. The install is asking for it. Can I get
    > the install to let me use a usb flash drive or something to install
    > the drivers or chipsets for my motherboard? The motherboard manual
    > says with XP I need to use a floppy drive. Do I need to buy and
    > install a floppy drive? Would a flash-card reader/floppy drive be
    > recognized? I already have a flash-card reader.
    >
    > If I were to install a floppy drive: Do I need to do anything
    > special? Would it be plug and play for procedures like installing
    > chipsets or drivers to install windows and then updating the Floppy
    > A: drivers once the OS is up and going?
    >
    > I doubt the SATA connections are dirty. It is fairly new. (less than
    > one month).
    >
    > Can I just re-format the drive in an external enclosure from a laptop
    > and the BIOS will recognize the drive?
    >
    > Have I wasted my money trying to install XP on a too new motherboard?
    > I hope not.
    >
    > Should I pay techs to install all this stuff and just leave it alone?
    >


    Probably won't help your situation, but floppy drives cost about ten bucks
    and are commodity items. If your hand fits a screwdriver, installation is
    trivial.
     
  5. Bruce Chambers

    Bruce Chambers Flightless Bird

    Re: BIOS not recognizing HDD. Trying to install Windows XP Home.No Fl

    Brian V wrote:
    > Got a new motherboard. ASUS M3N78-VM. Saved the RAM, CPU, DVD-ROM drive and
    > HDD from an OEM.
    >
    > I have contacted my motherboard manufacturer, but thought I'd try here too.
    > Maybe they would be unreliable.
    >
    > The HDD is not recognized in the BIOS...



    Until you resolve this hardware issue, you *cannot* proceed. Consult
    the motherboard's manual and/or its manufacturer for assistance.


    > .... and I cannot install Windows XP Home
    > Edition.
    >
    > To install the chipsets and stuff I need a floppy drive. I do not have a
    > floppy drive. I thought I was suppose to upgrade those once XP is installed.
    > XP installs drivers and stuff on it's own, I thought they were suppose to
    > work.
    >


    Think about that for a moment. How could you have expected a WinXP
    installation CD to include device drivers for a motherboard that was
    developed and manufactured several years after WinXP was released?


    > I do not have a floppy drive. The install is asking for it. Can I get the
    > install to let me use a usb flash drive or something to install the drivers
    > or chipsets for my motherboard? The motherboard manual says with XP I need to
    > use a floppy drive. Do I need to buy and install a floppy drive? Would a
    > flash-card reader/floppy drive be recognized? I already have a flash-card
    > reader.
    >



    You need to obtain a floppy drive if you want to install WinXP on a
    computer with that motherboard. There's no getting around this. While
    newer operating systems like Vista and Windows 7 will read a thumb drive
    (don't know about flash cards, but it seems unlikely) for this purpose,
    WinXP cannot be made to do so.

    However, this point is moot until you fix your hardware problem.


    > If I were to install a floppy drive: Do I need to do anything special? Would
    > it be plug and play for procedures like installing chipsets or drivers to
    > install windows and then updating the Floppy A: drivers once the OS is up and
    > going?
    >



    An internal floppy drive would be recognized by the BIOS without any
    additional requirements. An external USB floppy driver should work, as
    well, although you'll need to ensure that USB devices are enabled in the
    BIOS (this should be the default, but check).


    > I doubt the SATA connections are dirty. It is fairly new. (less than one
    > month).
    >
    > Can I just re-format the drive in an external enclosure from a laptop and
    > the BIOS will recognize the drive?
    >



    No. The issue of the BIOS not recognizing the HDD is entirely a
    hardware issue. It doesn't matter whether the HDD contains any data or not.


    > Have I wasted my money trying to install XP on a too new motherboard? I hope
    > not.
    >


    Perhaps. Did you ensure that the motherboard was WinXP-compatible
    _before_ you bought it?



    --

    Bruce Chambers

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  6. Bruce Chambers

    Bruce Chambers Flightless Bird

    Re: BIOS not recognizing HDD. Trying to install Windows XP Home.No Fl

    Brian V wrote:
    > Got a new motherboard. ASUS M3N78-VM. Saved the RAM, CPU, DVD-ROM drive and
    > HDD from an OEM.
    >
    > I have contacted my motherboard manufacturer, but thought I'd try here too.
    > Maybe they would be unreliable.
    >
    > The HDD is not recognized in the BIOS...



    Until you resolve this hardware issue, you *cannot* proceed. Consult
    the motherboard's manual and/or its manufacturer for assistance.


    > .... and I cannot install Windows XP Home
    > Edition.
    >
    > To install the chipsets and stuff I need a floppy drive. I do not have a
    > floppy drive. I thought I was suppose to upgrade those once XP is installed.
    > XP installs drivers and stuff on it's own, I thought they were suppose to
    > work.
    >


    Think about that for a moment. How could you have expected a WinXP
    installation CD to include device drivers for a motherboard that was
    developed and manufactured several years after WinXP was released?


    > I do not have a floppy drive. The install is asking for it. Can I get the
    > install to let me use a usb flash drive or something to install the drivers
    > or chipsets for my motherboard? The motherboard manual says with XP I need to
    > use a floppy drive. Do I need to buy and install a floppy drive? Would a
    > flash-card reader/floppy drive be recognized? I already have a flash-card
    > reader.
    >



    You need to obtain a floppy drive if you want to install WinXP on a
    computer with that motherboard. There's no getting around this. While
    newer operating systems like Vista and Windows 7 will read a thumb drive
    (don't know about flash cards, but it seems unlikely) for this purpose,
    WinXP cannot be made to do so.

    However, this point is moot until you fix your hardware problem.


    > If I were to install a floppy drive: Do I need to do anything special? Would
    > it be plug and play for procedures like installing chipsets or drivers to
    > install windows and then updating the Floppy A: drivers once the OS is up and
    > going?
    >



    An internal floppy drive would be recognized by the BIOS without any
    additional requirements. An external USB floppy driver should work, as
    well, although you'll need to ensure that USB devices are enabled in the
    BIOS (this should be the default, but check).


    > I doubt the SATA connections are dirty. It is fairly new. (less than one
    > month).
    >
    > Can I just re-format the drive in an external enclosure from a laptop and
    > the BIOS will recognize the drive?
    >



    No. The issue of the BIOS not recognizing the HDD is entirely a
    hardware issue. It doesn't matter whether the HDD contains any data or not.


    > Have I wasted my money trying to install XP on a too new motherboard? I hope
    > not.
    >


    Perhaps. Did you ensure that the motherboard was WinXP-compatible
    _before_ you bought it?



    --

    Bruce Chambers

    Help us help you:
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

    The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
    killed a great many philosophers.
    ~ Denis Diderot
     
  7. Paul

    Paul Flightless Bird

    Re: BIOS not recognizing HDD. Trying to install Windows XP Home.No Fl

    Brian V wrote:
    > Got a new motherboard. ASUS M3N78-VM. Saved the RAM, CPU, DVD-ROM drive and
    > HDD from an OEM.
    >
    > I have contacted my motherboard manufacturer, but thought I'd try here too.
    > Maybe they would be unreliable.
    >
    > The HDD is not recognized in the BIOS and I cannot install Windows XP Home
    > Edition.
    >
    > To install the chipsets and stuff I need a floppy drive. I do not have a
    > floppy drive. I thought I was suppose to upgrade those once XP is installed.
    > XP installs drivers and stuff on it's own, I thought they were suppose to
    > work.
    >
    > I do not have a floppy drive. The install is asking for it. Can I get the
    > install to let me use a usb flash drive or something to install the drivers
    > or chipsets for my motherboard? The motherboard manual says with XP I need to
    > use a floppy drive. Do I need to buy and install a floppy drive? Would a
    > flash-card reader/floppy drive be recognized? I already have a flash-card
    > reader.
    >
    > If I were to install a floppy drive: Do I need to do anything special? Would
    > it be plug and play for procedures like installing chipsets or drivers to
    > install windows and then updating the Floppy A: drivers once the OS is up and
    > going?
    >
    > I doubt the SATA connections are dirty. It is fairly new. (less than one
    > month).
    >
    > Can I just re-format the drive in an external enclosure from a laptop and
    > the BIOS will recognize the drive?
    >
    > Have I wasted my money trying to install XP on a too new motherboard? I hope
    > not.
    >
    > Should I pay techs to install all this stuff and just leave it alone?
    >
    > Ugg.
    >
    > Thank you. :)


    I have a copy of the M3N78-VM manual downloaded from the Asus site
    here, and it does show a floppy disk connector on the motherboard. If
    you want to connect a floppy disk, the connector for it is available.

    The hard drive should be detected in the BIOS. If it isn't, you may have
    missed connecting the drive power or data cables. There should be no issues
    with SATA data cable rates with your chipset. Only some VIA chipsets have
    issues with SATA drives at 300MB/sec.

    In the BIOS, look for the items shown in section 2.3.5 of the user
    manual. There is an item like "OnChip S-ATA Controller" and that
    should be [Enabled]. The item below it is "SATA Mode select" with
    options like [SATA mode, RAID mode, AHCI mode]. If you want to
    install without using the floppy to provide drivers (via pressing F6),
    you could try [SATA mode]. That is the way my Intel based board is installed
    right now, and the drivers used are atapi.sys, pciide.sys, pciidex.sys, and
    those are part of my Windows installer CD.

    So if your SATA controller is actually enabled in the BIOS, you should be
    seeing the hard drive detected. Once it is detected, and the mode is set
    such that Windows doesn't need a driver, there is a small possibility it will
    just install with no further fuss. Mine got far enough along on its own,
    that I could use the motherboard CD afterwards, to install any remaining
    needed drivers.

    The selection you use for [SATA mode, RAID mode, AHCI mode] may affect
    your future plans. AHCI mode support hot plugging, and hot plugging could
    be useful for the E-SATA connector on the back of the computer. RAID mode
    allows using drives in RAID0 (stripe), RAID1 (mirror), for speed or
    reliability. You need to understand the dependencies when using that setting,
    as to what impact it could have on some future plans you might have for the
    computer. For example, on some Intel based motherboards, you want to install
    at least AHCI via pressing F6, so that you can smoothly transition to RAID
    later. The vanilla "SATA mode" choice, might not support that.

    I chose to use the "SATA mode" on mine, because I had no plans for using
    RAID any time soon. And since I don't have an ESATA port, hot-plugging isn't
    high on my agenda either. And since I chose "SATA mode", there is no
    "Safely Remove" icon in my tray. "Safely Remove" may show up, if you select
    to install the AHCI driver and its associated mode.

    As you can see here, AHCI also support Native Command Queueing. For typical
    desktop usage (i.e not running a file server with your computer), the
    vanilla mode may actually be faster in some cases.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahci

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Command_Queuing

    So there is a bit of a decision process, at the point you're installing
    the OS. If you take the "path of least resistance", and try the "SATA mode"
    rather than RAID or AHCI, it may be possible to install Windows without
    using a floppy diskette with drivers on it.

    As to the question of "should I pay techs to do it", how are you
    going to learn anything that way ? :)

    Paul
     
  8. Anna

    Anna Flightless Bird

    "Brian V" <BrianV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:148BE74D-EBF2-4564-84BF-195CA3B98FBA@microsoft.com...
    > Got a new motherboard. ASUS M3N78-VM. Saved the RAM, CPU, DVD-ROM drive
    > and
    > HDD from an OEM.
    >
    > I have contacted my motherboard manufacturer, but thought I'd try here
    > too.
    > Maybe they would be unreliable.
    >
    > The HDD is not recognized in the BIOS and I cannot install Windows XP Home
    > Edition.
    >
    > To install the chipsets and stuff I need a floppy drive. I do not have a
    > floppy drive. I thought I was suppose to upgrade those once XP is
    > installed.
    > XP installs drivers and stuff on it's own, I thought they were suppose to
    > work.
    >
    > I do not have a floppy drive. The install is asking for it. Can I get the
    > install to let me use a usb flash drive or something to install the
    > drivers
    > or chipsets for my motherboard? The motherboard manual says with XP I need
    > to
    > use a floppy drive. Do I need to buy and install a floppy drive? Would a
    > flash-card reader/floppy drive be recognized? I already have a flash-card
    > reader.
    >
    > If I were to install a floppy drive: Do I need to do anything special?
    > Would
    > it be plug and play for procedures like installing chipsets or drivers to
    > install windows and then updating the Floppy A: drivers once the OS is up
    > and
    > going?
    >
    > I doubt the SATA connections are dirty. It is fairly new. (less than one
    > month).
    >
    > Can I just re-format the drive in an external enclosure from a laptop and
    > the BIOS will recognize the drive?
    >
    > Have I wasted my money trying to install XP on a too new motherboard? I
    > hope
    > not.
    >
    > Should I pay techs to install all this stuff and just leave it alone?
    >
    > Ugg.
    >
    > Thank you. :)



    Brian:
    Your post is somewhat contradictory so perhaps you may want to clarify it...

    1. You state "the installed HDD is not recognized in the BIOS and I cannot
    install (the OS)". But then you mention the need for a floppy disk drive
    because "the install is asking for it.".

    2. When you boot to your XP OS installation CD I assume that the boot
    proceeds normally and the setup files are loaded. So what happens when you
    select the option to set up the OS? Do you not get a message that setup
    cannot continue because the system can not find any installed hard disks in
    your system?

    And we can assume your XP OS Home Ed. installation CD is either an
    *unbranded* OEM CD or a retail copy, right?

    Precisely describe how you have gone about trying to install the OS.

    3. Where did you get this requirement that "To install the chipsets and
    stuff I need a floppy drive"?

    4. You're absolutely sure the BIOS does not detect your SATA HDD?

    5. You indicate the HDD came from an OEM machine. Has it been formatted so
    that no data is contained on that disk? Or does it contain all the data from
    the OEM machine?

    6. As far as you know the disk is non-defective? You were working with it
    before building this new system?

    7. You're certain you've properly connected the disk to the appropriate SATA
    connector on the new motherboard - both power & data connections?

    8. Have you checked out the disk with the HDD diagnostic utility from the
    disk's manufacturer just to ensure you're not working with a defective disk?
    Anna
     
  9. Brian V

    Brian V Flightless Bird

    Re: BIOS not recognizing HDD. Trying to install Windows XP Home. N

    I appriciate the responses. I did contact the manufacturer. They gave me some
    info about: 1. Clear the CMOS for troubleshooting, 2. Go into the BIOS, Set
    the mode of HDD to SATA to test.

    I tried the old sata connector and the new one with the motherboard. Neither
    took. And in SATA 1 and SATA 2. If one did take, would I have to restart or
    would ? I see it immediately in the bios?

    This is a Windows 7 ready motherboard. The manual says something about
    installing an OS with a RAID driver for a hard-disk that is included in a
    RAID set. That is onto a floppy. But people have posted that SP3 doesn't need
    what the manual says I need to install. |So that means I don't need a floppy
    drive. The BIOS doesn't even see the HDD.

    I took everything I could from the old OEM computer. I have a brand new
    Windows XP home edition. SURPRISINGLY SP3 is on there for some reason. I read
    SP3 somewhere at the beginning of the EULA. I thought it would be SP1 or 2.
    So I assume it should work.


    The hard-drive works in an external hard-drive enclosure. There is still
    stuff there. I assume that it can be clean-installed onto and that if it were
    recognized in the BIOS, all would have flown smoothly. Unless the hard-drive
    was propriaty to an OEM computer too. I doubt it. Can that happen?

    If I were to buy another HDD, could it work a lot better and be recognized?
    Maybe my hdd is too old? If I did just get a new HDD, would it be ok to
    install the old HDD in SATA2 (with a better Power-supply too). If I did get a
    new one and kept the old one, should I format the old one to clear the old xp
    off too? Will there be conflict issues? But again I know a sata hdd is not
    being recognized for some reason, the "plug and play/start installing the OS"
    isnt recognized.

    Since the BIOS seems to be working, except not recognizing the HDD: Could
    there be damage to the motherboard? Maybe an incorrect install or faulty
    parts? Again: The dvd-rom and RAM are recognized, it's just the HDD not
    recognized.

    Thank you.
     
  10. Brian V

    Brian V Flightless Bird

    Re: BIOS not recognizing HDD. Trying to install Windows XP Home. N

    I backed-up everything through removing the old drive, and manually taking
    everything I wanted off of it and transfering through my laptop onto an
    external drive. So it's all saved. Saved $40-$50 dollars and was more
    precise. But an enclosure and a laptop are expensive on
    credit...............An investment/future need mind you, but not wanted
    exactly this way financially.
     
  11. boatman312

    boatman312 Flightless Bird

    Re: BIOS not recognizing HDD. Trying to install Windows XP Home.N

    On 03/17/10 1:38 PM, Brian V wrote:
    > I backed-up everything through removing the old drive, and manually taking
    > everything I wanted off of it and transfering through my laptop onto an
    > external drive. So it's all saved. Saved $40-$50 dollars and was more
    > precise. But an enclosure and a laptop are expensive on
    > credit...............An investment/future need mind you, but not wanted
    > exactly this way financially.

    I may have missed this within previous posts but...

    Are there any jumpers on the drive? Any place for them?
     
  12. Brian V

    Brian V Flightless Bird

    Problem solved.......

    Connect the IDE cable for power to the sata drive.............

    Windows recognizes and starts to give the options to partition or which
    partition to set up the os on........Then format it since there is a copy of
    windows already on it........

    I called the store I got the mobo from. I had read the posts......The sales
    rep mentioned the cable......It finally clicked......I thought about this
    last night and was wondering if anything else needs to be connected. The
    drive looked a bit bare with only the sata cable in it........

    Thanks everybody.

    Paul: I really want to do as much of this as I can myself. It's been bumpy.
    But now nobody else has to get paid and I get to learn.
     
  13. philo

    philo Flightless Bird

    Re: Problem solved.......

    Brian V wrote:
    > Connect the IDE cable for power to the sata drive.............
    >
    > Windows recognizes and starts to give the options to partition or which
    > partition to set up the os on........Then format it since there is a copy of
    > windows already on it........
    >
    > I called the store I got the mobo from. I had read the posts......The sales
    > rep mentioned the cable......It finally clicked......I thought about this
    > last night and was wondering if anything else needs to be connected. The
    > drive looked a bit bare with only the sata cable in it........
    >
    > Thanks everybody.
    >
    > Paul: I really want to do as much of this as I can myself. It's been bumpy.
    > But now nobody else has to get paid and I get to learn.



    LOL


    that's why I told you to read the manual!
     
  14. Brian V

    Brian V Flightless Bird

    Re: Problem solved.......

    I am unsure if it would tell me to make sure the connections are all
    connected......Wait.....I think it does.........
     
  15. C.Joseph Drayton

    C.Joseph Drayton Flightless Bird

    Re: BIOS not recognizing HDD. Trying to install Windows XP Home.N

    On 3/17/2010 10:34 AM, Brian V wrote:
    > I appriciate the responses. I did contact the manufacturer. They gave me some
    > info about: 1. Clear the CMOS for troubleshooting, 2. Go into the BIOS, Set
    > the mode of HDD to SATA to test.
    >
    > I tried the old sata connector and the new one with the motherboard. Neither
    > took. And in SATA 1 and SATA 2. If one did take, would I have to restart or
    > would ? I see it immediately in the bios?
    >
    > This is a Windows 7 ready motherboard. The manual says something about
    > installing an OS with a RAID driver for a hard-disk that is included in a
    > RAID set. That is onto a floppy. But people have posted that SP3 doesn't need
    > what the manual says I need to install. |So that means I don't need a floppy
    > drive. The BIOS doesn't even see the HDD.
    >
    > I took everything I could from the old OEM computer. I have a brand new
    > Windows XP home edition. SURPRISINGLY SP3 is on there for some reason. I read
    > SP3 somewhere at the beginning of the EULA. I thought it would be SP1 or 2.
    > So I assume it should work.
    >
    >
    > The hard-drive works in an external hard-drive enclosure. There is still
    > stuff there. I assume that it can be clean-installed onto and that if it were
    > recognized in the BIOS, all would have flown smoothly. Unless the hard-drive
    > was propriaty to an OEM computer too. I doubt it. Can that happen?
    >
    > If I were to buy another HDD, could it work a lot better and be recognized?
    > Maybe my hdd is too old? If I did just get a new HDD, would it be ok to
    > install the old HDD in SATA2 (with a better Power-supply too). If I did get a
    > new one and kept the old one, should I format the old one to clear the old xp
    > off too? Will there be conflict issues? But again I know a sata hdd is not
    > being recognized for some reason, the "plug and play/start installing the OS"
    > isnt recognized.
    >
    > Since the BIOS seems to be working, except not recognizing the HDD: Could
    > there be damage to the motherboard? Maybe an incorrect install or faulty
    > parts? Again: The dvd-rom and RAM are recognized, it's just the HDD not
    > recognized.
    >
    > Thank you.


    Hello Brian,

    Hot-swapping an internal hard disk IDE or SATA is not a good idea. In
    theory, you would need to reboot since finding storage devices is part
    of the BIOS routines. If you switch cables after that (unless your BIOS
    setup has a rescan option) the switch would not show.

    Again, i would not recommend hotswapping an internal IDE or SATA drive
    unless it is setup specifically to be hotswappable (those types of
    drives normally have a cage that the drive is slid in and out of and you
    don't manually handle the cables).

    Sincerely,
    C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T

    CSD Computer Services

    Web site: http://csdcs.site90.net/
    E-mail: c.joseph@csdcs.site90.net
     

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