Win7-no more Outlook Express

[bobhatch@bobhatch.com]

"PE" <ple@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:ra9Rn.4240$1Q5.2500@newsfe08.iad...
> Hi all: Just bought a new desktop that came with Win7 installed, and
> discovered the OE is no longer a part and that the easy transfer utility
> will not transfer the OE files and settings from the old computer to the
> Win7's live mail. Would appreciate any recommendations and solutions to
> this email dilemma, as I don't want to have to do all of that stuff
> manually, and would like to continue using an email program that allows
> for separate identities without having to go through the logoff/logbackin
> hassels. Thanks,
>
If you really, really want OE, upgrade your Win 7 to pro, then install XP in
the Virtual Machine. OE will be there in all its glory. You can keep the
Virtual Machine open all the time you're working on the computer and just
switch to it as needed.

This message posted from XP Mode using Outlook Express. Note, my Win 7
newsreader is Thunderbird.

 

[felmon]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 02:490 +0200, Death wrote:

> Canuck57 wrote:
>
>> On 13/06/2010 54 PM, PE wrote:
>>
>>> Ken, everyone was free to try other options even when MS was
>>> supporting OE. And personally, I was content to use it for both email
>>> and newsgroups. I use Outlook at work and think it's overkill for
>>> what I need at home. So now I have to waste valuable time taking your
>>> advice to sample and learn to use other programs, when I would have
>>> been perfectly happy to stay with OE.
>>
>> But Microsoft thinks it knows better.
>>
>> Just finished doing some file maintenance on XP, Vista and Win 7,
>> wonder when Microsoft is going ot stablize its menus. Some stuff
>> alsways seems to be in a different place for no reason.
>>
>>
> Install a linux distro.
> Do you have firefox, or epiphany, or konqueror?

firefox usually is along for the ride and epiphany is a firefox variant
that also comes along for the ride in certain distros. you just click on
'web-browser' or something. (or you can use konqueror if you want.) I
pretty much use them all depending on what's easiest to click on or mood.

> What .iso burner?

k3b!

> What mp3 player...none, really, you gotta "make" that. Amarok, Banshee,
> Audacious, XMMS, Rythmbox? All suck in their own way.

I like xmms but it's now audacious. works well. not into the other stuff
but I'm not into collecting a lot of music and cataloguing it.

> Where do firefox plugins go?

don't know. never had to worry about it.

> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
> /usr/java/jre1.6.0_20/plugin?
> /usr/java/default/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so? And yet not in
> /usr/lib/firefox-3.6?
> Gotta create symbolic links?

no need.

> What?

oh, they're like 'shortcuts'. people use similar in Windows all the time.

> Talk about a fing mess.
> ./makes no sense.

how I feel often enough in Windows. I still can't quite get straight what
the 'administrator' account is and I would need a good handbook to figure
out all the %blahblah% type commands, and 'join points' (I forget the
name) are tricky though I get the point.

> Windows still makes sense.

yes, I understand; alludes to basic rule of human cognition: what one is
familiar with makes sense.

anyway, way off topic. forgive my caving to temptation.

Felmon

 

[Tony]

Try the nearest warez site for microsoft office 2007 or 2010. Outlook express
is a part of both.

PE wrote:

> Hi all: Just bought a new desktop that came with Win7 installed, and
> discovered the OE is no longer a part and that the easy transfer utility
> will not transfer the OE files and settings from the old computer to the
> Win7's live mail. Would appreciate any recommendations and solutions to
> this email dilemma, as I don't want to have to do all of that stuff
> manually, and would like to continue using an email program that allows for
> separate identities without having to go through the logoff/logbackin
> hassels. Thanks,

--
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Very few. I used to take calls from *rank* noobs but got fired the first day on
the job for potty mouth,

Hamster isn't a newsreader it's a mistake!

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Regards Tony... Making usenet better for everyone everyday

 

[Frank]

On 6/14/2010 5:47 PM, Tony wrote:
> Try the nearest warez site for microsoft office 2007 or 2010. Outlook express
> is a part of both.

No, it isn't!
Oops!...LOL!
>
> PE wrote:
>
>> Hi all: Just bought a new desktop that came with Win7 installed, and
>> discovered the OE is no longer a part and that the easy transfer utility
>> will not transfer the OE files and settings from the old computer to the
>> Win7's live mail. Would appreciate any recommendations and solutions to
>> this email dilemma, as I don't want to have to do all of that stuff
>> manually, and would like to continue using an email program that allows for
>> separate identities without having to go through the logoff/logbackin
>> hassels. Thanks,
>
> --
> The Grandmaster of the CyberFROG
>
> Come get your ticket to CyberFROG city
>
> Nay, Art thou decideth playeth ye simpleton games. *Some* of us know proper
> manners
>
> Very few. I used to take calls from *rank* noobs but got fired the first day on
> the job for potty mouth,
>
> Hamster isn't a newsreader it's a mistake!
>
> El-Gonzo Jackson FROGS both me and Chuckcar
>
> Master Juba was a black man imitating a white man imitating a black man
>
> Using my technical prowess and computer abilities to answer questions beyond
> the realm of understandability
>
> Regards Tony... Making usenet better for everyone everyday
>
>

 

[Char Jackson]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:47:47 -0400, Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich>
wrote:

>Try the nearest warez site for microsoft office 2007 or 2010. Outlook express
>is a part of both.

Are you sure about that? I know Outlook is included, but I'm quite
surprised to hear that OE is also included in Office.

 

[Frank]

On 6/14/2010 7:59 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:47:47 -0400, Tony<Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich>
> wrote:
>
>> Try the nearest warez site for microsoft office 2007 or 2010. Outlook express
>> is a part of both.
>
> Are you sure about that? I know Outlook is included, but I'm quite
> surprised to hear that OE is also included in Office.
>
Trust me, it isn't.

 

[Gordon]

"Tony" <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote in message
news:4C16CDB3.DBB1E852@TheDeli.Sandwich...
> Try the nearest warez site for microsoft office 2007 or 2010. Outlook
> express
> is a part of both.
>

Eh? No it's not. Office contains OUTLOOK, not Outlook EXPRESS. The two are
entirely separate and DIFFERENT programs.

 

[Ken Blake]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 030:55 +0100, "Mortimer" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:emga16pr38ua63b2q6205mehvrj4g55chd@4ax.com...
> > Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although many
> > people object to this, I think it's a step in the right direction,
> > since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever program(s) he
> > likes best.
>
> Except that MS have restricted the choice by *not* offering OE or Windows
> Mail on Win 7: your only MS choices are WLM or Outlook.


Personally, I see no reason why Microsoft has to, or even should,
offer any e-mail programs at all. There are *many* third-party choices
available.


> If they want to supply no email program as standard, that's fine - providing
> *all* their email programs (OE, WM, WLM) are available.
>
> Although officially Win 7 does not include an email program, all the PCs
> I've set up have been supplied with WLM. Maybe this is done by the PC
> builder (eg Dell) as an add-on to vanilla Win 7.


Yes, if it's done, it's done by the OEM. Some OEMs, but not all, do
that.


Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

 

[Ken Blake]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:47:47 -0400, Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich>
wrote:

> Try the nearest warez site for microsoft office 2007 or 2010. Outlook express
> is a part of both.


Sorry, that is *not* correct. You are mixing up Outlook (which is a
part of Microsoft Office) with Outlook Express. They are two very
different programs.


Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

 

[Guest]

TRY USING WINDOWS LIVE MAIL: IT'S PART OF WINDOWS LIVE ESSENTIALS! JUST FYI!

"PE" <ple@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:ra9Rn.4240$1Q5.2500@newsfe08.iad...
> Hi all: Just bought a new desktop that came with Win7 installed, and
> discovered the OE is no longer a part and that the easy transfer utility
> will not transfer the OE files and settings from the old computer to the
> Win7's live mail. Would appreciate any recommendations and solutions to
> this email dilemma, as I don't want to have to do all of that stuff
> manually, and would like to continue using an email program that allows
> for separate identities without having to go through the logoff/logbackin
> hassels. Thanks,
>

 

[Sunny]

<kevpan815@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> TRY USING WINDOWS LIVE MAIL: IT'S PART OF WINDOWS LIVE ESSENTIALS! JUST
> FYI!

Try using the caps lock key, get your attendant to show you where it is.

 

[KCB]

"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Trimble Bracegirdle" <no-spam@never.spam> wrote in message
> news:hv3nv4$9p1$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Thanks muchley KCB ..
>> I have fought this Battle & your export / import instructions are the
>> clearest ...
>> I have seen
>
> Except he missed out one VITAL step - the transfer of the dbx files from
> the machine running OE to the machine running Windows 7...

Gordon, sorry I didn't include that step (for either operation). When I
originally wrote the post, I thought about including that, but decided that
the OP probably knew how to copy files from one computer to another.

 

[Trimble Bracegirdle]

As I progressively transfer (general Home system) from XP to Win 7
I can't decide on this issue.
There doesn't seem to be a clear alternative.
Suggestions to go to Windows Live Mail perhaps dominate.

I have a basic single user Email & Newsgroup reader need.
& for me the bizness of transferring the existing stuff is a main issue.

I'm puzzled that no clever cracking User has modified the OE files
from XP so it will run in Vista / Win7 ?
(\__/)
(='.'
(")_(") mouse (Ridiculous Tho That Would Be)