Is it possible to TRIPLE BOOT?

[hello@goodbye.com]

I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.
The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to
install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple
boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four
of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP
on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.

Thanks

 

[LDS5ZRA]

Yes it is possible but I suggest post your query here:

<news/nntp.aioe.org/alt.windows7.general>

Where Alias, our resident Troll, lives on that newsgroup giving
information on all things Ubuntu, Linux and any shitty operating
systems.

Please mention his name in your Subject heading so that you get
perfect response from him.

hth


hello@goodbye.com wrote:
>
> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.
> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to
> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple
> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four
> of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP
> on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.
>
> Thanks

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[Pegasus [MVP]]

<hello@goodbye.com> wrote in message
news:s44uu55ci7is8n9uqvqasucdohvaij23l1@4ax.com...
> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.
> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to
> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple
> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four
> of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP
> on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.
>
> Thanks

I depends on the boot loader you use. Some such as XOSL can handle as many
as you can set up partitions (primary or logical). Since you intend to
install Ubuntu you should look at Grub and get detailed advice from a Grub.
Note also that the Windows boot loader is about as basic as they come. A
good boot loader should be able to selectively hide partitions from each
other, which Windows can't.

If you put the words
grub boot loader hide partitions
into a Google search box then you will get plenty of good links.

 

[hello@goodbye.com]

On Sun, 16 May 2010 00:278 +0200, "Pegasus [MVP]"
<news@microsoft.com> wrote:

>
>
><hello@goodbye.com> wrote in message
>news:s44uu55ci7is8n9uqvqasucdohvaij23l1@4ax.com...
>> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.
>> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to
>> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple
>> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four
>> of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP
>> on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>I depends on the boot loader you use. Some such as XOSL can handle as many
>as you can set up partitions (primary or logical). Since you intend to
>install Ubuntu you should look at Grub and get detailed advice from a Grub.
>Note also that the Windows boot loader is about as basic as they come. A
>good boot loader should be able to selectively hide partitions from each
>other, which Windows can't.
>
>If you put the words
>grub boot loader hide partitions
>into a Google search box then you will get plenty of good links.

Thanks for the advice.

I'll search the web for this, but just a couple questions.

Is "Grub" included with Ubantu, or a separate program? (I really know
little about linux, I'm just going to install it for someone since
they want it).

Why would anyone want to HIDE a partition? I can understand not
wanting or needing to see (for example), the linux files, when running
Windows, but that partition can still be used to store other files,
such as photos or MP3s, which would be desired to be accessed from all
OSs. Otherwise it seems like there would be lots of wasted drive
space as well as the inability to access "common files" such as .JPGs,
..MP3s, .TXT files, etc from EVERY OS.

Thanks

 

[DrTeeth]

On Sat, 15 May 2010 17:45:05 -0500, just as I was about to take a
herb, hello@goodbye.com disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>Why would anyone want to HIDE a partition?

I forget which way round it is, but of one version of windows can see
another, it will delete the restore points.

There are other reasons as well. The best tool on the whole fecking
planet is BOOTiTNG from Terabytes Unlimited. Once can have more than
200 primary partitions per disk if one wants. So much tidier than
futzing about with Extended partitions.

A steep learning curve, but when you can plant that flag ion the
summit you will be the master of the best. When installing Linux, you
much install grub/Lilo in the root partition if the Linux setup and
NOT the disk's MBR.
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[Gord Dibben]

2 drives..........40g each........that's 80g

2 partitions per drive at 20g each

3 OSes

Doesn't sound like a heck of a lotta room.


Gord

On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:293 -0500, hello@goodbye.com wrote:

>I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.
>The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to
>install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple
>boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four
>of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP
>on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.
>
>Thanks

 

[LDS5ZRA]

Gord Dibben wrote:
> 2 drives..........40g each........that's 80g
>
> 2 partitions per drive at 20g each
>
> 3 OSes
>
> Doesn't sound like a heck of a lotta room.
>
>

Oh no it is quite sufficient for someone who only wants to play with the
system - not to do any serious work. You missed one thing though: The
guy is still using Windows 98 (not even Windows 98 SE) so this should
tell you everything you need to know. No wonder he was asked to contact
Alias because they have something in common.

 

[hello@goodbye.com]

On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:51:24 -0700, Gord Dibben <gorddibbATshawDOTca>
wrote:

>Doesn't sound like a heck of a lotta room.
>
>
>Gord

Yea, I did tell them that they should consider replacing at least one
of the drives with a larger one.

After seeing what's all involved, I might just tell them to get
another computer for the Linux. Don't know if I want to mess with
this. From what I've heard, any computer made after around 2000
should run linux, and these days the old computers can be gotten real
cheap.

By the way, Win98 is the SE version.

 

[Pegasus [MVP]]

<hello@goodbye.com> wrote in message
news:ai8uu5pu1lso6dap7k0ir7ntsg32mf31po@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 16 May 2010 00:278 +0200, "Pegasus [MVP]"
> <news@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>><hello@goodbye.com> wrote in message
>>news:s44uu55ci7is8n9uqvqasucdohvaij23l1@4ax.com...
>>> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.
>>> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to
>>> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple
>>> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four
>>> of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP
>>> on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>>I depends on the boot loader you use. Some such as XOSL can handle as many
>>as you can set up partitions (primary or logical). Since you intend to
>>install Ubuntu you should look at Grub and get detailed advice from a
>>Grub.
>>Note also that the Windows boot loader is about as basic as they come. A
>>good boot loader should be able to selectively hide partitions from each
>>other, which Windows can't.
>>
>>If you put the words
>>grub boot loader hide partitions
>>into a Google search box then you will get plenty of good links.
>
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> I'll search the web for this, but just a couple questions.
>
> Is "Grub" included with Ubantu, or a separate program? (I really know
> little about linux, I'm just going to install it for someone since
> they want it).

It's actually "Ubuntu", not "Ubantu", and you should ask questions
about it in an Ubuntu forum. I know next to nothing about it.

> Why would anyone want to HIDE a partition? I can understand not
> wanting or needing to see (for example), the linux files, when running
> Windows, but that partition can still be used to store other files,
> such as photos or MP3s, which would be desired to be accessed from all
> OSs. Otherwise it seems like there would be lots of wasted drive
> space as well as the inability to access "common files" such as .JPGs,
> .MP3s, .TXT files, etc from EVERY OS.

Even with single booting it is good practice to have one partition for
your OS and apps and another for your data. When multi-booting this
becomes compulsory: Have each OS on its own partition which you
hide from all the other OS in order to eliminate interference and in
order to have the System drive always visible as drive C. You then
have one further partition for your data that you share among the
various OSs.

Note also that installing several OSs on a single machine in a proper
and sustainable manner requires a bit of practice. Trying to create
such an environment without practice will most likely end up in
disaster. If this was my show then I would do this:
1. Buy a much larger disk.
2. Use a cloning tool to transfer the existing OSs to the new disk.
3. Play with the chosen boot manager.
4. Back to Step 2 each time I wreck the installation.
5. When on top of the technique, deliver a robust solution.

This will obviously take a bit of time.

 

[dadiOH]

hello@goodbye.com wrote:
> On Sun, 16 May 2010 00:278 +0200, "Pegasus [MVP]"
> <news@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> <hello@goodbye.com> wrote in message
>> news:s44uu55ci7is8n9uqvqasucdohvaij23l1@4ax.com...
>>> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.
>>> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to
>>> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple
>>> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has
>>> four of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is
>>> on C: XP on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> I depends on the boot loader you use. Some such as XOSL can handle
>> as many as you can set up partitions (primary or logical). Since you
>> intend to install Ubuntu you should look at Grub and get detailed
>> advice from a Grub. Note also that the Windows boot loader is about
>> as basic as they come. A good boot loader should be able to
>> selectively hide partitions from each other, which Windows can't.
>>
>> If you put the words
>> grub boot loader hide partitions
>> into a Google search box then you will get plenty of good links.
>
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> I'll search the web for this, but just a couple questions.
>
> Is "Grub" included with Ubantu, or a separate program? (I really know
> little about linux, I'm just going to install it for someone since
> they want it).

The one time I installed an Ubuntu distro GRUB was automatic. I found it a
PITA as it sets up its own boot in the MBR and that gives you a menu. If
you select a Windows OS you then get a second boot menu (the one for
Windows). That may not be true if you have only one Windows install, don't
know, but I had no desire to have to deal with two menus

Regardless of one or more Windows installs, if you decide to dump LINUX/GRUB
your MBR is still messed up and *you* have to fix it.

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[dadiOH]

hello@goodbye.com wrote:
> On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:51:24 -0700, Gord Dibben <gorddibbATshawDOTca>
> wrote:
>
>> Doesn't sound like a heck of a lotta room.
>>
>>
>> Gord
>
> Yea, I did tell them that they should consider replacing at least one
> of the drives with a larger one.
>
> After seeing what's all involved, I might just tell them to get
> another computer for the Linux. Don't know if I want to mess with
> this. From what I've heard, any computer made after around 2000
> should run linux, and these days the old computers can be gotten real
> cheap.

Tell them to run Linux from a CD.

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____________________________

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....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

 

[db]

you will likely crash
the boot sector by
installing ubantu.

and then the headache
begins when your only
alternative to undue the
damage is to re-for-matt.

however, what you can
do without any problems
at all

is to install ubantu and
any number of o.s.'s
in virtual pc or
virtual box.

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<hello@goodbye.com> wrote in message
news:s44uu55ci7is8n9uqvqasucdohvaij23l1@4ax.com...
> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.
> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to
> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple
> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four
> of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP
> on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.
>
> Thanks

 

[LDS5ZRA]

Gord Dibben wrote:
>
> 2 drives..........40g each........that's 80g
>
> 2 partitions per drive at 20g each
>
> 3 OSes
>
> Doesn't sound like a heck of a lotta room.
>
> Gord
>

ord Dibben wrote:
> 2 drives..........40g each........that's 80g
>
> 2 partitions per drive at 20g each
>
> 3 OSes
>
> Doesn't sound like a heck of a lotta room.
>
>

Oh no it is quite sufficient for someone who only wants to play
with the
system - not to do any serious work. You missed one thing
though: The
guy is still using Windows 98 (not even Windows 98 SE) so this
should
tell you everything you need to know. No wonder he was asked to
contact
Alias because they have something in common.

 

[LDS5ZRA]

Yes it is possible but I suggest post your query here:

<news/nntp.aioe.org/alt.windows7.general>

Where Alias, our resident Troll, lives on that newsgroup giving
information on all things Ubuntu, Linux and any shitty operating
systems.

Please mention his name in your Subject heading so that you get
perfect response from him.

hth


hello@goodbye.com wrote:
>
> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.
> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to
> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple
> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four
> of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP
> on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.
>
> Thanks

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ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
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LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL
DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.

Copyright LDS5ZRA 2010.

 

[LDS5ZRA]

Yes it is possible but I suggest post your query here:

<news/nntp.aioe.org/alt.windows7.general>

Where Alias, our resident Troll, lives on that newsgroup giving
information on all things Ubuntu, Linux and any shi*ty operating
systems.

Please mention his name in your Subject heading so that you get
perfect response from him.

hth


hello@goodbye.com wrote:
>
> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.
> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to
> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple
> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four
> of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP
> on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.
>
> Thanks

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