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Disk Management - Shrinks, but Won't Move?

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croy

Flightless Bird
Trying to shift a little disk space from one logical drive
to another (on the same physical drive).

The Win7 DiskManagement allows me to shrink a volume, but I
don't see any way to move it, to give me room to extend the
second one.

I assume that if I delete these two volumes, and then make
two new ones, the drive letters will get shifted all around
- true?

Am I missing something?

--
croy
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:25:54 -0700, croy wrote:

> Trying to shift a little disk space from one logical drive
> to another (on the same physical drive).
>
> The Win7 DiskManagement allows me to shrink a volume, but I
> don't see any way to move it, to give me room to extend the
> second one.
>
> I assume that if I delete these two volumes, and then make
> two new ones, the drive letters will get shifted all around
> - true?
>
> Am I missing something?

Yes.

You can make permanent reassignments of drive letters. It's probably
easiest to do this after the fact, but if your two partitions are D: and
E:, that's what you'll most likely get anyway. I hope you're not
planning to erase C:...

But what's easiest is to look for free third party partitioning software
that makes changes non-destructively. Google for partitioning software.

Here's one that I have (but haven't used in years): Gnome Partition
Editor, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

You download the iso file, burn it as a CD image to a CD, then boot from
it. Then you're free to mess up your system any way you like :)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:25:54 -0700, croy <hate@spam.invalid.net>
wrote:

>Trying to shift a little disk space from one logical drive
>to another (on the same physical drive).
>
>The Win7 DiskManagement allows me to shrink a volume, but I
>don't see any way to move it, to give me room to extend the
>second one.
>
>I assume that if I delete these two volumes, and then make
>two new ones, the drive letters will get shifted all around
>- true?
>
>Am I missing something?

Could you be talked into combining the two logical drives into a
single logical drive? If so, then making space becomes a non-issue as
folders would be used for organization rather than logical drives.
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
On 20/09/2010 23:25, croy wrote:
> Trying to shift a little disk space from one logical drive
> to another (on the same physical drive).
>
> The Win7 DiskManagement allows me to shrink a volume, but I
> don't see any way to move it, to give me room to extend the
> second one.

Correct. The built-in Windows Partition manager won't do that.
I second the recommendation for GParted - I use it all the time and it
is excellent.
A word of Warning though - do *NOT* cancel any operation half way
through. (Bitter experience....)
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Flightless Bird
Gordon wrote:
> On 20/09/2010 23:25, croy wrote:
>> Trying to shift a little disk space from one logical drive
>> to another (on the same physical drive).
>>
>> The Win7 DiskManagement allows me to shrink a volume, but I
>> don't see any way to move it, to give me room to extend the
>> second one.
>
> Correct. The built-in Windows Partition manager won't do that.
> I second the recommendation for GParted - I use it all the time and it
> is excellent. > A word of Warning though - do *NOT* cancel any
> operation half way through. (Bitter experience....)

I have been using Partition Wizard, not for any particular reason except
that I like the GUI. Is there any reason I should use GParted instead?
--
Crash

"The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion."
~ Arnold H. Glasow ~
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
On 21/09/2010 12:54, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:

>
> I have been using Partition Wizard, not for any particular reason except
> that I like the GUI. Is there any reason I should use GParted instead?

Not particularly. use whatever works best for you... :)
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:30 +0100, Gordon wrote:

> On 21/09/2010 12:54, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
>
>>
>> I have been using Partition Wizard, not for any particular reason except
>> that I like the GUI. Is there any reason I should use GParted instead?
>
> Not particularly. use whatever works best for you... :)

I agree. I mentioned GParted because that's all I could think of right
then, and I spelled the name out because I keep getting the short name
wrong :)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Flightless Bird
Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:30 +0100, Gordon wrote:
>
>> On 21/09/2010 12:54, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
>>
>>> I have been using Partition Wizard, not for any particular reason except
>>> that I like the GUI. Is there any reason I should use GParted instead?
>> Not particularly. use whatever works best for you... :)
>
> I agree. I mentioned GParted because that's all I could think of right
> then, and I spelled the name out because I keep getting the short name
> wrong :)

I have Partition Wizard and Parted Magic with Clonezilla, which includes
GParted. I used PartitionMagic for years before it was assimilated by the
Borg and became irrelevant.

--
Crash

Committed to the search for intraterrestrial intelligence.
 
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croy

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:57:01 +0100, Gordon
<gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 20/09/2010 23:25, croy wrote:
>> Trying to shift a little disk space from one logical drive
>> to another (on the same physical drive).
>>
>> The Win7 DiskManagement allows me to shrink a volume, but I
>> don't see any way to move it, to give me room to extend the
>> second one.
>
>Correct. The built-in Windows Partition manager won't do that.
>I second the recommendation for GParted - I use it all the time and it
>is excellent.
>A word of Warning though - do *NOT* cancel any operation half way
>through. (Bitter experience....)

I thought that had read somewhere that GPartEd was dangerous
to use on a Windows 7 system.

--
tbl
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
On 21/09/2010 21:36, croy spat these words:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:57:01 +0100, Gordon
> <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 20/09/2010 23:25, croy wrote:
>>> Trying to shift a little disk space from one logical drive
>>> to another (on the same physical drive).
>>>
>>> The Win7 DiskManagement allows me to shrink a volume, but I
>>> don't see any way to move it, to give me room to extend the
>>> second one.
>>
>> Correct. The built-in Windows Partition manager won't do that.
>> I second the recommendation for GParted - I use it all the time and it
>> is excellent.
>> A word of Warning though - do *NOT* cancel any operation half way
>> through. (Bitter experience....)
>
> I thought that had read somewhere that GPartEd was dangerous
> to use on a Windows 7 system.
>

Works here OK....
 
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Roy Smith

Flightless Bird
On 9/21/2010 3:36 PM, croy wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:57:01 +0100, Gordon
> <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 20/09/2010 23:25, croy wrote:
>>> Trying to shift a little disk space from one logical drive
>>> to another (on the same physical drive).
>>>
>>> The Win7 DiskManagement allows me to shrink a volume, but I
>>> don't see any way to move it, to give me room to extend the
>>> second one.
>>
>> Correct. The built-in Windows Partition manager won't do that.
>> I second the recommendation for GParted - I use it all the time and it
>> is excellent.
>> A word of Warning though - do *NOT* cancel any operation half way
>> through. (Bitter experience....)
>
> I thought that had read somewhere that GPartEd was dangerous
> to use on a Windows 7 system.
>

It's about as risky to use on a WIn 7 system as Microsoft's own disk
manager that's included in Win 7. In other words if you don't know what
you're doing you can totally hose your system.


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.4
Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:35:47 PM
 
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croy

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:35:48 -0500, Roy Smith
<rasmith1959@live.com> wrote:

>On 9/21/2010 3:36 PM, croy wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:57:01 +0100, Gordon
>> <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/09/2010 23:25, croy wrote:
>>>> Trying to shift a little disk space from one logical drive
>>>> to another (on the same physical drive).
>>>>
>>>> The Win7 DiskManagement allows me to shrink a volume, but I
>>>> don't see any way to move it, to give me room to extend the
>>>> second one.
>>>
>>> Correct. The built-in Windows Partition manager won't do that.
>>> I second the recommendation for GParted - I use it all the time and it
>>> is excellent.
>>> A word of Warning though - do *NOT* cancel any operation half way
>>> through. (Bitter experience....)
>>
>> I thought that had read somewhere that GPartEd was dangerous
>> to use on a Windows 7 system.
>>
>
>It's about as risky to use on a WIn 7 system as Microsoft's own disk
>manager that's included in Win 7. In other words if you don't know what
>you're doing you can totally hose your system.


Why do you think GPartEd would show my new SATA drive as all
unallocated, when I can boot Win7 from it, and use files
that are stored on it, and the Win7 DiskMgmt shows it being
partitioned with 5 different drive letters?

Just curious.

--
croy
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
On 22/09/2010 14:49, croy spat these words:

>
> Why do you think GPartEd would show my new SATA drive as all
> unallocated, when I can boot Win7 from it, and use files
> that are stored on it, and the Win7 DiskMgmt shows it being
> partitioned with 5 different drive letters?
>

Dunno. Works OK here on my SATA drive.....
 
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Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
On 20/09/2010 6:25 PM, croy wrote:
> Trying to shift a little disk space from one logical drive
> to another (on the same physical drive).
>
> The Win7 DiskManagement allows me to shrink a volume, but I
> don't see any way to move it, to give me room to extend the
> second one.

Boot It Next Generation (BING) will allow you to do that.

> I assume that if I delete these two volumes, and then make
> two new ones, the drive letters will get shifted all around
> - true?
>
> Am I missing something?

Yeah, but with Windows NT and later, you've been able to rename drive
letters, or even make do without drive letters at all (i.e. mount a
drive on a subfolder).

Yousuf Khan
 
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