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XP-SP3 How can I be sure to keep it.

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by skeeterh3, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. skeeterh3

    skeeterh3 Flightless Bird

    I currently have a Dell Reinstallation CD for XP Pro - SP2. I recently had
    to use it and was able to reinstall Windows without any problems. After
    installation I used the Windows Update site to get all the current updates.
    I believe I've read here that after July, 2010 SP2 will no longer be
    supported. If I have use my OEM disk after July will I still be able to
    download Service Pack 3 from Windows Update? or should I go ahead and
    download the iso file from
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en
    and copy it to a CD. I assume if I do this then I would be able to use the
    copied iso file to update directly to SP3 without going thru the Windows
    Update site - correct?

    --
    Allen Hardy

    "Old age and treachery always wins over youth and skill!"
    Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings
     
  2. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    skeeterh3 wrote:
    > I currently have a Dell Reinstallation CD for XP Pro - SP2. I
    > recently had to use it and was able to reinstall Windows without
    > any problems. After installation I used the Windows Update site to
    > get all the current updates. I believe I've read here that after
    > July, 2010 SP2 will no longer be supported. If I have use my OEM
    > disk after July will I still be able to download Service Pack 3
    > from Windows Update? or should I go ahead and download the iso file
    > from
    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en
    > and copy it to a CD. I assume if I do this then I would be able to
    > use the copied iso file to update directly to SP3 without going
    > thru the Windows Update site - correct?


    As long as you created a CD from the ISO and did not just copy the ISO file
    to the CD. ;-)

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  3. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    skeeterh3 wrote:
    > I currently have a Dell Reinstallation CD for XP Pro - SP2. I
    > recently had to use it and was able to reinstall Windows without
    > any problems. After installation I used the Windows Update site to
    > get all the current updates. I believe I've read here that after
    > July, 2010 SP2 will no longer be supported. If I have use my OEM
    > disk after July will I still be able to download Service Pack 3
    > from Windows Update? or should I go ahead and download the iso file
    > from
    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en
    > and copy it to a CD. I assume if I do this then I would be able to
    > use the copied iso file to update directly to SP3 without going
    > thru the Windows Update site - correct?


    Shenan Stanley wrote:
    > As long as you created a CD from the ISO and did not just copy the
    > ISO file to the CD. ;-)


    BTW - it's not likely to disappear from the Internet anytime soon.

    You can still get service packs for Windows 2000... You can get SP1a, SP2
    and SP3 for Windows XP and SP1 and SP2 for Windows Vista. I would bet
    (although I have not looked in a while) you can still download Windows NT
    4.0 service packs.

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  4. Chet

    Chet Flightless Bird

    On 2/9/2010 3:50 PM, Shenan Stanley wrote:
    > skeeterh3 wrote:
    >> I currently have a Dell Reinstallation CD for XP Pro - SP2. I
    >> recently had to use it and was able to reinstall Windows without
    >> any problems. After installation I used the Windows Update site to
    >> get all the current updates. I believe I've read here that after
    >> July, 2010 SP2 will no longer be supported. If I have use my OEM
    >> disk after July will I still be able to download Service Pack 3
    >> from Windows Update? or should I go ahead and download the iso file
    >> from
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en
    >> and copy it to a CD. I assume if I do this then I would be able to
    >> use the copied iso file to update directly to SP3 without going
    >> thru the Windows Update site - correct?

    >
    > Shenan Stanley wrote:
    >> As long as you created a CD from the ISO and did not just copy the
    >> ISO file to the CD. ;-)

    >
    > BTW - it's not likely to disappear from the Internet anytime soon.
    >
    > You can still get service packs for Windows 2000... You can get SP1a, SP2
    > and SP3 for Windows XP and SP1 and SP2 for Windows Vista. I would bet
    > (although I have not looked in a while) you can still download Windows NT
    > 4.0 service packs.
    >


    Shenan,

    I made an install disc from my retail XP SP2 disc and SP3 using nLite,
    would the OP be able to do the same with the Dell re-installation CD?

    Thanks,
    --
    Chet <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com>
     
  5. sgopus

    sgopus Flightless Bird

    get acronis True Image and make a clone of your disc using an external disc
    drive
    these days they are really affordable, keep your copy safe, and update
    regularly

    "skeeterh3" wrote:

    > I currently have a Dell Reinstallation CD for XP Pro - SP2. I recently had
    > to use it and was able to reinstall Windows without any problems. After
    > installation I used the Windows Update site to get all the current updates.
    > I believe I've read here that after July, 2010 SP2 will no longer be
    > supported. If I have use my OEM disk after July will I still be able to
    > download Service Pack 3 from Windows Update? or should I go ahead and
    > download the iso file from
    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en
    > and copy it to a CD. I assume if I do this then I would be able to use the
    > copied iso file to update directly to SP3 without going thru the Windows
    > Update site - correct?
    >
    > --
    > Allen Hardy
    >
    > "Old age and treachery always wins over youth and skill!"
    > Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings
    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  6. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    Chet wrote:
    > I made an install disc from my retail XP SP2 disc and SP3 using
    > nLite, would the OP be able to do the same with the Dell
    > re-installation CD?


    Yes.

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  7. John

    John Flightless Bird

    Do you mean slipstreaming SP3 into Windows OS setup CD from Dell? The answer
    is no. I've tried it before and it failed. Slipstreaming works fine with a
    retail CD.

    "Chet" <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:-OTQdWPdqKHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > I made an install disc from my retail XP SP2 disc and SP3 using nLite,
    > would the OP be able to do the same with the Dell re-installation CD?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > --
    > Chet <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com>
     
  8. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    John wrote:
    > Do you mean slipstreaming SP3 into Windows OS setup CD from Dell?
    > The answer is no. I've tried it before and it failed. Slipstreaming
    > works fine with a retail CD.


    Works fine with the Dell Windows XP CDs I have tried it with... From RTM,
    SP1 and SP2 CDs with SP1, SP2 and SP3 (did all of them over time, no
    problems.)

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  9. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    John, you are not the only one who has reported issues with attempting
    to slipstream using a Dell-branded XP installation CD.

    Did you try Nlite? There have been a number of success stories by people
    who have used this program.

    Also, the problematic Dell-specific files are listed here (as well as
    workarounds) in the event you want to slipstream the regular way:

    http://vbdotnet.home.comcast.net/~vbdotnet/XP_SP2.htm

    Although these are old instructions for SP2, you can use them (with the
    appropriate SP3 files) for integrating SP3.

    That method worked for me. But I think Nlite would probably be easier
    and quicker. :)

    So, the answer is actually yes. However, it is not as straightforward as
    when using a generic OEM or Retail XP installation CD.


    John wrote:
    > Do you mean slipstreaming SP3 into Windows OS setup CD from Dell? The
    > answer is no. I've tried it before and it failed. Slipstreaming works
    > fine with a retail CD.
    >
    > "Chet" <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:-OTQdWPdqKHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> I made an install disc from my retail XP SP2 disc and SP3 using
    >> nLite, would the OP be able to do the same with the Dell
    >> re-installation CD? Thanks,
    >> --
    >> Chet <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com>
     
  10. mm

    mm Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:18:52 -0500, "skeeterh3" <skeeth3@bellsouth.net>
    wrote:

    >
    >I currently have a Dell Reinstallation CD for XP Pro - SP2. I recently had
    >to use it and was able to reinstall Windows without any problems. After
    >installation I used the Windows Update site to get all the current updates.
    >I believe I've read here that after July, 2010 SP2 will no longer be
    >supported. If I have use my OEM disk after July will I still be able to
    >download Service Pack 3 from Windows Update? or should I go ahead and
    >download the iso file from
    >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en
    >and copy it to a CD.


    Like he said, don't copy it to a CD. Create a CD from the .iso file.
    Do you get the difference?

    Why wait until after July? Do it now. At least download it now.
    Maybe you won't have internet when you need this file.

    >I assume if I do this then I would be able to use the
    >copied iso file to update directly to SP3 without going thru the Windows
    >Update site - correct?
     
  11. 20100210

    20100210 Flightless Bird

    See if this article helps you in any way:

    http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstreamed_xpsp3_cd_final.htm

    The above article is only good if you have actual Windows XP CD from DELL.
    Ir doesn't matter whether it Gold version (or SP0), SP1 or SP2.

    Let us know if it helped.


    "skeeterh3" <skeeth3@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
    news:%23wFkU1cqKHA.5896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >I currently have a Dell Reinstallation CD for XP Pro - SP2. I recently had
    >to use it and was able to reinstall Windows without any problems. After
    >installation I used the Windows Update site to get all the current updates.
    >I believe I've read here that after July, 2010 SP2 will no longer be
    >supported. If I have use my OEM disk after July will I still be able to
    >download Service Pack 3 from Windows Update? or should I go ahead and
    >download the iso file from
    >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en
    > and copy it to a CD. I assume if I do this then I would be able to use
    > the copied iso file to update directly to SP3 without going thru the
    > Windows Update site - correct?
    >
    > --
    > Allen Hardy
    >
    > "Old age and treachery always wins over youth and skill!"
    > Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings
    >
     
  12. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    mm wrote:
    > Like he said, don't copy it to a CD. Create a CD from the .iso
    > file. Do you get the difference?
    >
    > Why wait until after July? Do it now. At least download it now.
    > Maybe you won't have internet when you need this file.


    SP3 is supported through April 2014.

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  13. John

    John Flightless Bird

    No I didn't use any 3rd party software. Instead I did the "update.exe
    /integrate:<drive>:/<folder>" command to slipstream XP3, just like the
    article at http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/xpsp3_slipstream.asp

    I decided to just apply SP3 after (re)installing XP SP2. Thanks for the
    link. I'll have a look at it later.

    "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
    news:%23aBHTCfqKHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > John, you are not the only one who has reported issues with attempting to
    > slipstream using a Dell-branded XP installation CD.
    >
    > Did you try Nlite? There have been a number of success stories by people
    > who have used this program.
    >
    > Also, the problematic Dell-specific files are listed here (as well as
    > workarounds) in the event you want to slipstream the regular way:
    >
    > http://vbdotnet.home.comcast.net/~vbdotnet/XP_SP2.htm
    >
    > Although these are old instructions for SP2, you can use them (with the
    > appropriate SP3 files) for integrating SP3.
    >
    > That method worked for me. But I think Nlite would probably be easier and
    > quicker. :)
    >
    > So, the answer is actually yes. However, it is not as straightforward as
    > when using a generic OEM or Retail XP installation CD.
    >
    >
    > John wrote:
    >> Do you mean slipstreaming SP3 into Windows OS setup CD from Dell? The
    >> answer is no. I've tried it before and it failed. Slipstreaming works
    >> fine with a retail CD.
    >>
    >> "Chet" <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:-OTQdWPdqKHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>> I made an install disc from my retail XP SP2 disc and SP3 using
    >>> nLite, would the OP be able to do the same with the Dell
    >>> re-installation CD? Thanks,
    >>> --
    >>> Chet <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com>

    >
    >
     
  14. John

    John Flightless Bird

    It's been too long since I tried slipstreaming SP3 with Dell OS setup CD. I
    got one of those green CD media from Dell that says:

    OPERATING SYSTEM
    ALREADY INSTALLED ON YOUR COMPUTER
    Reinstallation CD
    Microsoft Windows XP Professional
    Service Pack 2

    I forgot what the problem was but IIRC when I did the "update ..." command,
    it tells me that my WinXP SP2 is not the correct version.

    "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:uQyUt0eqKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > John wrote:
    >> Do you mean slipstreaming SP3 into Windows OS setup CD from Dell?
    >> The answer is no. I've tried it before and it failed. Slipstreaming
    >> works fine with a retail CD.

    >
    > Works fine with the Dell Windows XP CDs I have tried it with... From RTM,
    > SP1 and SP2 CDs with SP1, SP2 and SP3 (did all of them over time, no
    > problems.)
    >
    > --
    > Shenan Stanley
    > MS-MVP
    > --
    > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
    >
     
  15. John

    John Flightless Bird

    Crap!!! I got it mixed up with another problem. Slipstreaming SP3 into WinXP
    setup CD from Dell works just fine. I just double checked it. Yep it works.

    The "other" problem that failed was when I tried to create a BartPE boot CD.
    For some reason it refuses to use WinXP CD from Dell. It's either that or I
    did not follow the instruction correctly.

    "John" <a> wrote in message news:enXIvTnqKHA.3800@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > It's been too long since I tried slipstreaming SP3 with Dell OS setup CD.
    > I got one of those green CD media from Dell that says:
    >
    > OPERATING SYSTEM
    > ALREADY INSTALLED ON YOUR COMPUTER
    > Reinstallation CD
    > Microsoft Windows XP Professional
    > Service Pack 2
    >
    > I forgot what the problem was but IIRC when I did the "update ..."
    > command, it tells me that my WinXP SP2 is not the correct version.
    >
    > "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:uQyUt0eqKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> John wrote:
    >>> Do you mean slipstreaming SP3 into Windows OS setup CD from Dell?
    >>> The answer is no. I've tried it before and it failed. Slipstreaming
    >>> works fine with a retail CD.

    >>
    >> Works fine with the Dell Windows XP CDs I have tried it with... From RTM,
    >> SP1 and SP2 CDs with SP1, SP2 and SP3 (did all of them over time, no
    >> problems.)
    >>
    >> --
    >> Shenan Stanley
    >> MS-MVP
    >> --
    >> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    >> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
    >>

    >
    >
     
  16. Chet

    Chet Flightless Bird

    On 2/9/2010 4:43 PM, Shenan Stanley wrote:
    > Chet wrote:
    >> I made an install disc from my retail XP SP2 disc and SP3 using
    >> nLite, would the OP be able to do the same with the Dell
    >> re-installation CD?

    >
    > Yes.
    >

    Thank you,

    --
    Chet <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com>
     

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