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XP slow to load programs

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by SK, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. SK

    SK Flightless Bird

    This is one of those questions that I don't think anyone has an answer to.
    The programs on my xp machine are very slow to load ie outlook takes 3
    minutes. The loading time keep getting longer and longer over time. I did
    all the standard stuff, defragged, ran three spyware programs, three
    registry cleanup programs, ran windows update, limited the number of startup
    programs, ran disk cleanup and etc. I have 2 gig or ram and half of my 200g
    hard drive is empty. It just keeps slowing down over the months.

    Sadly, I think that this is just standard windows behaviour that we have
    come to accept and live with. Is there any real fix that anyone is aware of
    that actually works to retstore performance besides reformatting? Thank you.
     
  2. db

    db Flightless Bird

    perhaps, you might try
    executing safe mode w/
    networking and see if there
    is any improvement

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    "SK" <nospam@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:ujHn7DimKHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > This is one of those questions that I don't think anyone has an answer to.
    > The programs on my xp machine are very slow to load ie outlook takes 3
    > minutes. The loading time keep getting longer and longer over time. I did
    > all the standard stuff, defragged, ran three spyware programs, three
    > registry cleanup programs, ran windows update, limited the number of
    > startup programs, ran disk cleanup and etc. I have 2 gig or ram and half
    > of my 200g hard drive is empty. It just keeps slowing down over the
    > months.
    >
    > Sadly, I think that this is just standard windows behaviour that we have
    > come to accept and live with. Is there any real fix that anyone is aware
    > of that actually works to retstore performance besides reformatting? Thank
    > you.
    >
     
  3. HeyBub

    HeyBub Flightless Bird

    SK wrote:
    > This is one of those questions that I don't think anyone has an
    > answer to. The programs on my xp machine are very slow to load ie
    > outlook takes 3 minutes. The loading time keep getting longer and
    > longer over time. I did all the standard stuff, defragged, ran three
    > spyware programs, three registry cleanup programs, ran windows
    > update, limited the number of startup programs, ran disk cleanup and
    > etc. I have 2 gig or ram and half of my 200g hard drive is empty. It
    > just keeps slowing down over the months.
    > Sadly, I think that this is just standard windows behaviour that we
    > have come to accept and live with. Is there any real fix that anyone
    > is aware of that actually works to retstore performance besides
    > reformatting? Thank you.


    It's not standard XP behavior nor is re-installation the appropriate fix.

    Your mission is to discover what is taking so long. One example is a process
    that is trying to communicate with a non-existent entity. The process tries
    and tries before it finally gives up. For example, an application may be
    querying a web site looking for updates but the web site no longer exists.


    Another possibility is a disk error wherein the OS retries the failing read
    thousands of times before it gets it right.

    Use MSCONFIG to disable virtually all the start-up processes. Then start
    adding them back with accompanying re-boots until you land on the culprit.
     
  4. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    I'd have stopped at removing the extraneous software you have installed
    that is starting up and hogging all the CPU cycles. The three registry
    cleaners didn't do any thing useful. The issue may be drive errors have
    forced the IDE interface into PIO mode from DMA. I'd suggest checking
    that out in Device Manager first.

    SK wrote:
    > This is one of those questions that I don't think anyone has an answer to.
    > The programs on my xp machine are very slow to load ie outlook takes 3
    > minutes. The loading time keep getting longer and longer over time. I did
    > all the standard stuff, defragged, ran three spyware programs, three
    > registry cleanup programs, ran windows update, limited the number of startup
    > programs, ran disk cleanup and etc. I have 2 gig or ram and half of my 200g
    > hard drive is empty. It just keeps slowing down over the months.
    >
    > Sadly, I think that this is just standard windows behaviour that we have
    > come to accept and live with. Is there any real fix that anyone is aware of
    > that actually works to retstore performance besides reformatting? Thank you.
    >
    >
     
  5. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Your injudicious use of "registry cleanup programs" may have only made
    matters worse! If you ever think your Registry needs to be cleaned,
    repaired, boosted, tuned-up, or optimized (it doesn't), read
    http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.

    You'd be better of reading...

    Help! My computer is slow!
    http://miekiemoes.blogspot.com/2008/02/help-my-computer-is-slow.html
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    www.banthecheck.com


    SK wrote:
    > This is one of those questions that I don't think anyone has an answer to.
    > The programs on my xp machine are very slow to load ie outlook takes 3
    > minutes. The loading time keep getting longer and longer over time. I did
    > all the standard stuff, defragged, ran three spyware programs, three
    > registry cleanup programs, ran windows update, limited the number of
    > startup
    > programs, ran disk cleanup and etc. I have 2 gig or ram and half of my
    > 200g
    > hard drive is empty. It just keeps slowing down over the months.
    >
    > Sadly, I think that this is just standard windows behaviour that we have
    > come to accept and live with. Is there any real fix that anyone is aware
    > of
    > that actually works to retstore performance besides reformatting? Thank
    > you.
     
  6. sgopus

    sgopus Flightless Bird

    With the generic info you gave, not much of a response can be given.
    What specific three spyware programs did you run?
    registry clean up programs are really not needed.
    if you have an antivirus program, what is it and what are it's settings
    the long loading times sometimes, are due to antivirus scanning whats
    loading into memory.

    Are you using a security suite with a firewall, or just windows firewall,
    with a antivirus?


    "SK" wrote:

    > This is one of those questions that I don't think anyone has an answer to.
    > The programs on my xp machine are very slow to load ie outlook takes 3
    > minutes. The loading time keep getting longer and longer over time. I did
    > all the standard stuff, defragged, ran three spyware programs, three
    > registry cleanup programs, ran windows update, limited the number of startup
    > programs, ran disk cleanup and etc. I have 2 gig or ram and half of my 200g
    > hard drive is empty. It just keeps slowing down over the months.
    >
    > Sadly, I think that this is just standard windows behaviour that we have
    > come to accept and live with. Is there any real fix that anyone is aware of
    > that actually works to retstore performance besides reformatting? Thank you.
    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  7. SK

    SK Flightless Bird

    Ad Aware, SpyBot, Malwarebytes are the three spyware programs I ran. I am
    running trend micro internet security as my firewall and antivirus. I even
    turned it off temporarily but it made no difference in program startup
    times. Thanks for responding.

    "sgopus" <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:A9D3ED24-B301-4E5D-A6BE-6ABEAD728534@microsoft.com...
    > With the generic info you gave, not much of a response can be given.
    > What specific three spyware programs did you run?
    > registry clean up programs are really not needed.
    > if you have an antivirus program, what is it and what are it's settings
    > the long loading times sometimes, are due to antivirus scanning whats
    > loading into memory.
    >
    > Are you using a security suite with a firewall, or just windows firewall,
    > with a antivirus?
    >
    >
    > "SK" wrote:
    >
    >> This is one of those questions that I don't think anyone has an answer
    >> to.
    >> The programs on my xp machine are very slow to load ie outlook takes 3
    >> minutes. The loading time keep getting longer and longer over time. I did
    >> all the standard stuff, defragged, ran three spyware programs, three
    >> registry cleanup programs, ran windows update, limited the number of
    >> startup
    >> programs, ran disk cleanup and etc. I have 2 gig or ram and half of my
    >> 200g
    >> hard drive is empty. It just keeps slowing down over the months.
    >>
    >> Sadly, I think that this is just standard windows behaviour that we have
    >> come to accept and live with. Is there any real fix that anyone is aware
    >> of
    >> that actually works to retstore performance besides reformatting? Thank
    >> you.
    >>
    >>
    >> .
    >>
     
  8. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    SK wrote:
    > This is one of those questions that I don't think anyone has an
    > answer to. The programs on my xp machine are very slow to load ie
    > outlook takes 3 minutes. The loading time keep getting longer and
    > longer over time. I did all the standard stuff, defragged, ran three
    > spyware programs, three registry cleanup programs, ran windows
    > update, limited the number of startup programs, ran disk cleanup and
    > etc. I have 2 gig or ram and half of my 200g hard drive is empty. It
    > just keeps slowing down over the months.
    > Sadly, I think that this is just standard windows behaviour that we
    > have come to accept and live with. Is there any real fix that anyone
    > is aware of that actually works to retstore performance besides
    > reformatting? Thank you.


    Here are the usual causes of sluggishness:

    1. Malicious software (malware). You need to rule this out first! This
    page has excellent information:

    http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Viruses_Malware

    2. Certain programs that are designed to combat malware (e.g., Norton
    and McAfee). Ironically, they can slow things down because they simply
    use way too many resources. Sometime they cause conflicts with other
    programs. And their default mode is to scan your entire hard drive each
    time you boot up. Fortunately, there are other antimalware programs
    available that use far fewer resources (e.g., NOD32, Avast, and Avira).

    3. Too many of certain types of programs always running in the
    background -- with or without your knowledge. (Then again, many programs
    that run in the background have trivial consequences.)

    To determine every program and process you are currently running, use
    the Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del) and click the Processes tab. You should
    be able to sort by CPU usage or Memory usage to get a good ideas which
    ones are the resource/memory hogs. You should write down the names of
    all the processes for future detective work (or take a snapshot and
    print it out).

    Use these sites to determine what these programs are and to learn how to
    configure them not to always run at startup:

    http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php#THE_PROGRAMS
    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/
    http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm

    Sometimes it is recommended to use msconfig to configure the programs to
    not run at startup. A better, more thorough program is Autoruns:

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

    But before you do this, you should use the preference settings of the
    program in question. Otherwise, for some programs, they will return to
    the startup list anyway!

    If you do wish to use msconfig, it may be accessed this way:

    Start | Run | type "msconfig" (without the quotation marks) | Enter (or
    OK)

    4. Not enough RAM, which causes the PC to overly rely on the pagefile. A
    quick way to determine if this is happening is to open Task Manager
    (Ctrl+Alt+Del) and click the Performance tab. Then note the three values
    under Commit Charge (K): in the lower left-hand corner: Total, Limit,
    and Peak.

    The Total figure represents the amount of memory you are using at that
    very moment. The Peak figure represents the highest amount of memory you
    used since last bootup. If both these figures are below the value of
    Physical Memory (K) Total, then you probably have plenty of RAM.
    In case you want to explore this further, you may run Page File Monitor
    for Windows XP:

    http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm

    5. You might also want to check that your hard drive's access mode
    didn't change from DMA to PIO:

    http://www.technize.com/2007/08/02/is-your-hard-disk-cddvd-drives-too-slow-while-copying/

    and

    http://users.bigpond.net.au/ninjaduck/itserviceduck/udma_fix/

    ___________________________________________________

    I did notice your other post, SK. Assuming you have no malware (but it
    still needs to be definitively ruled out!), I would start off with
    Number 5. It's possible the hard drive's access mode changed to the
    slower PIO mode. If that checks out, configure a Clean Boot:

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353

    Hopefully this will temporarily end your sluggishness. Then you can
    systematically add back programs/processes until you can determine which
    one is responsible for your sluggishness.

    As others said, what you are experiencing is not typical. There is an
    exception, though. Is your problem only occurring when you first boot
    up? If so, how long does it take until all your programs are "loaded"?
    That is, once your booting is complete and everything is finished
    "settling down," what is your performance like? If it never improves,
    definitely try out my advice. Otherwise, just assume your anitivirus
    program is updating and scanning. If it's five minutes, you can live
    with that. If you'r rather not live with that, either change its
    settings or use another AV program. :)
     

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