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XP Pro question

M

Motort

Flightless Bird
I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in
anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows
products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it
doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?
As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that
has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.
 
S

smlunatick

Flightless Bird
On Apr 5, 4:07 pm, Motort <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:
>         I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in
> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows
> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it
> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?
>         As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that
> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.


Why would you want to buy Windows XP just to replace it with Windows
7? Windows 7 Upgrade will not upgrade from XP. It will create a
"custom" fresh install.
 
M

Motort

Flightless Bird
smlunatick wrote:
> On Apr 5, 4:07 pm, Motort <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:
>> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in
>> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows
>> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it
>> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?
>> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that
>> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

>
> Why would you want to buy Windows XP just to replace it with Windows
> 7? Windows 7 Upgrade will not upgrade from XP. It will create a
> "custom" fresh install.


So, then I wouldn't have to provide proof of any previous windows
products? I'm considering Windows Home Premium Full. Is that all I'd
need? Thanks.
 
S

smlunatick

Flightless Bird
On Apr 5, 4:28 pm, Motort <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:
> smlunatick wrote:
> > On Apr 5, 4:07 pm, Motort <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:
> >>         I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in
> >> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows
> >> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it
> >> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?
> >>         As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for asystem that
> >> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

>
> > Why would you want to buy Windows XP just to replace it with Windows
> > 7?  Windows 7 Upgrade will not upgrade from XP.  It will create a
> > "custom" fresh install.

>
>         So, then I wouldn't have to provide proof of any previouswindows
> products? I'm considering Windows Home Premium Full. Is that all I'd
> need? Thanks.


Windows 7 Upgrades will still require a "qualifying" previous Windows
version. Windows XP will qualify but the Upgrade will require to have
availably partition disk space to create the newer Windows 7
installation:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Upgrading to Windows 7: frequently asked questions
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/upgrading-to-windows-7-frequently-asked-questions


Motort wrote:
> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in
> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows
> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it
> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?
> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that
> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.
 
D

db

Flightless Bird
you should go the
machines homesite
to check out what
version of windows
it was designed for.

if it was designed for
xp then it is highly
unlikely that win7
can function on it.

the same can be said
for machines designed
for win7.

some machines can't
be downgraded if the
maker hasn't provided
critical drivers for it and
made for the xp o.s.

in any case, microsoft
provides a win7 upgrade
advisor.

you should use the program
in addition to the facts you
ascertain from the maker
of the machine to determine
if upgrading to win7 is
flawless or problematic /
impossible.

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen

>
>


"Motort" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message news:uiWd0GN1KHA.4412@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows
> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional
> expired?
> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.
 
M

Motort

Flightless Bird
smlunatick wrote:
> On Apr 5, 4:28 pm, Motort <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:
>> smlunatick wrote:
>>> On Apr 5, 4:07 pm, Motort <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:
>>>> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in
>>>> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows
>>>> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it
>>>> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?
>>>> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that
>>>> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.
>>> Why would you want to buy Windows XP just to replace it with Windows
>>> 7? Windows 7 Upgrade will not upgrade from XP. It will create a
>>> "custom" fresh install.

>> So, then I wouldn't have to provide proof of any previous windows
>> products? I'm considering Windows Home Premium Full. Is that all I'd
>> need? Thanks.

>
> Windows 7 Upgrades will still require a "qualifying" previous Windows
> version. Windows XP will qualify but the Upgrade will require to have
> availably partition disk space to create the newer Windows 7
> installation:
>
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7


If I just landed on this planet, built a new computer with a brand
spankin' new hard drive (never seen a Microsoft product), which
Windows 7 edition could I legally install as my OS? (Doesn't require
previous Windows of any kind). Thanks.
 
J

joe

Flightless Bird
db

Your posts are so difficult to read it looks like a Don Juan poem. Your
answers are great but why oh why can't you change the layout?


"db" <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
news:AADE8E6F-CD4E-4D1D-B77B-7053D34D33DB@microsoft.com...
> you should go the
> machines homesite
> to check out what
> version of windows
> it was designed for.
>
> if it was designed for
> xp then it is highly
> unlikely that win7
> can function on it.
>
> the same can be said
> for machines designed
> for win7.
>
> some machines can't
> be downgraded if the
> maker hasn't provided
> critical drivers for it and
> made for the xp o.s.
>
> in any case, microsoft
> provides a win7 upgrade
> advisor.
>
> you should use the program
> in addition to the facts you
> ascertain from the maker
> of the machine to determine
> if upgrading to win7 is
> flawless or problematic /
> impossible.
>
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
> - Systems Analyst
> - Database Developer
> - Accountancy
> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
> - Microsoft Partner
> - @hotmail.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen
>
>>
>>

>
> "Motort" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uiWd0GN1KHA.4412@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in
>> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows
>> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it
>> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional
>> expired?
>> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that has
>> never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

>
 
D

DL

Flightless Bird
Any full retail version of win 7, ie not an upgrade version

One assumes whatever sys you are installing on meets the win 7 hardware
requirements

"Motort" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
news:uYMAWyN1KHA.4548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> smlunatick wrote:
>> On Apr 5, 4:28 pm, Motort <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:
>>> smlunatick wrote:
>>>> On Apr 5, 4:07 pm, Motort <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional
>>>>> in
>>>>> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows
>>>>> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it
>>>>> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?
>>>>> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system
>>>>> that
>>>>> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.
>>>> Why would you want to buy Windows XP just to replace it with Windows
>>>> 7? Windows 7 Upgrade will not upgrade from XP. It will create a
>>>> "custom" fresh install.
>>> So, then I wouldn't have to provide proof of any previous
>>> windows
>>> products? I'm considering Windows Home Premium Full. Is that all I'd
>>> need? Thanks.

>>
>> Windows 7 Upgrades will still require a "qualifying" previous Windows
>> version. Windows XP will qualify but the Upgrade will require to have
>> availably partition disk space to create the newer Windows 7
>> installation:
>>
>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7

>
> If I just landed on this planet, built a new computer with a brand
> spankin' new hard drive (never seen a Microsoft product), which Windows 7
> edition could I legally install as my OS? (Doesn't require previous
> Windows of any kind). Thanks.
 
T

The Seabat

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:25:17 -0700, Motort <user@domain.invalid>
wrote:

>>smlunatick wrote:
>>> On Apr 5, 4:28 pm, Motort <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:
>>>> smlunatick wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 5, 4:07 pm, Motort <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in
>>>>>> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows
>>>>>> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it
>>>>>> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?
>>>>>> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that
>>>>>> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.
>>>>> Why would you want to buy Windows XP just to replace it with Windows
>>>>> 7? Windows 7 Upgrade will not upgrade from XP. It will create a
>>>>> "custom" fresh install.
>>>> So, then I wouldn't have to provide proof of any previous windows
>>>> products? I'm considering Windows Home Premium Full. Is that all I'd
>>>> need? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Windows 7 Upgrades will still require a "qualifying" previous Windows
>>> version. Windows XP will qualify but the Upgrade will require to have
>>> availably partition disk space to create the newer Windows 7
>>> installation:
>>>
>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7

>>
>> If I just landed on this planet, built a new computer with a brand
>>spankin' new hard drive (never seen a Microsoft product), which
>>Windows 7 edition could I legally install as my OS? (Doesn't require
>>previous Windows of any kind). Thanks.


Any of them.
--
The seabat
Filtering GoogleGroups & Goobers with extreme prejudice!
Usenet Improvement Project: R.I.P. Lee aka Blinky the Shark
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:07:38 -0700, Motort <user@domain.invalid>
wrote:

> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in
> anticipating an advance to Windows 7.



Why? Why do you want to spend extra money to buy two operating systems
instead of just one? If you want Windows 7, buy Windows 7.


> (Have no previous Windows
> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it
> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?
> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that
> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.



Just buy the retail Windows 7 Full version and forget about XP.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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D

Doum

Flightless Bird
Motort <user@domain.invalid> écrivait news:uiWd0GN1KHA.4412
@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in
> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows
> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it
> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?
> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that
> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.
>


http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=368
&name=Operating-Systems

Compare the prices on this page and you will see that it's not worth it to
buy XP if you eventually want to get Seven.

XP PRO OEM is $190 and the Seven pro upgrade is $176 for a total of $366.

On the other hand Seven Ultimate FULL is $285, Seven Home Premium FULL $180
and Seven Pro FULL is $269, those FULL packages don't need a previous
version.

On what computer do you want to install this?
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Flightless Bird
Motort wrote:
>
>
> If I just landed on this planet, built a new computer with a brand
> spankin' new hard drive (never seen a Microsoft product), which Windows
> 7 edition could I legally install as my OS? (Doesn't require previous
> Windows of any kind). Thanks.



You'll need a Full (*not* upgrade) license for whichever edition best
meets your computing needs, of which you've told us absolutely nothing.

Compare Windows 7 Home Premium, Professional, and Ultimate
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/compare/default.aspx


--

Bruce Chambers

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
L

LD55ZRA

Flightless Bird
If you search hard on the net, you will find that you DON't need
any previous version of Office XP or Vista to install Windows 7
using an upgrade DVD of Win7. This is a fact but morons, who
define morality, will tell you otherwise.

If you agree, I can post links to articles I have written about
this subject.

hth


Motort wrote:
>
>
> So, then I wouldn't have to provide proof of any previous windows
> products? I'm considering Windows Home Premium Full. Is that all I'd
> need? Thanks.


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L

LD55ZRA

Flightless Bird
smlunatick wrote:
>


> Windows 7 Upgrades will still require a "qualifying" previous Windows
> version.


Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish;
Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish;

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L

LD55ZRA

Flightless Bird
Motort wrote:
>


> If I just landed on this planet, built a new computer with a brand
> spankin' new hard drive (never seen a Microsoft product), which
> Windows 7 edition could I legally install as my OS? (Doesn't require
> previous Windows of any kind). Thanks.



When you say legally what exactly do you mean by that. Do you
mean to say legality as understood by Microsoft who goes around
pirating somebody's Patent or legality as defined by morons whose
morality is completely twisted?

hth


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KIND. LD55ZRA DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESSED OR
IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL LD55ZRA
OR ITS ASSOCIATES BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER
INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF
BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LD55ZRA OR ITS
ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR
LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL
DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.

Copyright LD55ZRA 2010.
 
L

LD55ZRA

Flightless Bird
joe wrote:
>
> db
>
> Your posts are so difficult to read it looks like a Don Juan poem. Your
> answers are great but why oh why can't you change the layout?
>


He has changed it because Pig-Bear was having problems reading his
messages in his newsreader. Apparently they had very long lines
and required him {Pig-Bear i mean} to move his hand to scroll left
to right and so DB came to this wonderful compromise. this layout
has been around for nearly 5 years it seems. check it out!!!

hth

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BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LD55ZRA OR ITS
ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
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DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.

Copyright LD55ZRA 2010.
 
T

Twayne

Flightless Bird
In news:AADE8E6F-CD4E-4D1D-B77B-7053D34D33DB@microsoft.com,
db <databaseben at hotmail dot com> typed:
> you should go the
> machines homesite
> to check out what
> version of windows
> it was designed for.
>
> if it was designed for
> xp then it is highly
> unlikely that win7
> can function on it.
>
> the same can be said
> for machines designed
> for win7.
>
> some machines can't
> be downgraded if the
> maker hasn't provided
> critical drivers for it and
> made for the xp o.s.

....

Well, sort of. I am writing this on a win7 machine with XP and
4 Gig of RAM installed. The XP install disk is identical to
the one from my other purchase; it's only locked by
Activation. Many win7 machines can still run XP. The drivers
issue is really only around the chipset and any cheapo onboard
things they might have on the mobo. On this Dell though,
either works as well as the other with the standard install
disks. It arrived with win7; didn't like it, so installed a
retail XP; no problems; even all onboard stuff works.
Standard chipset, etc..
Other than the chipset, I have yet to see any mainstream
product for win7 that doesn't also have drivers for winXP.
That does NOT mean however, that any win7 can be downgraded to
XP; start by checking out the chipset drivers.

HTH,

Twayne`
 
V

vip

Flightless Bird

> If I just landed on this planet, built a new computer with a brand
> spankin' new hard drive (never seen a Microsoft product), which Windows
> 7 edition could I legally install as my OS? (Doesn't require previous
> Windows of any kind). Thanks.


I have followed your thread thus far, and I have a Q for you. Why are
you so bent on updating to the latest windows product when you seem to
be not too sure how to use the others?
What is it that you do on a computer? Is it something specific that
you feel W7 has to offer that you cant access now?
I dont use 7 or Vespa (putt putt), and for most part, xp.
Personally, I could launch the shuttle from win3.1

Why are you bent on giving $micro $$'s when it seems you havent mastered
the crux of computing.

Just a thought.
 
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