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Windows xp update issue.

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R. Ganesan

Flightless Bird
I am using windows xp professional media centre edition. I have selected
'notify me befoore installing and updating windows xp' option. If I allow an
update to be downloaded, will it proceed with in the background whenever
internet connection is available? Or should I download the update in one lot?

Thanking you and expecting your posts,

Yours sincerely,
R. Ganesan.
 
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Mark Adams

Flightless Bird
"R. Ganesan" wrote:

> I am using windows xp professional media centre edition. I have selected
> 'notify me befoore installing and updating windows xp' option. If I allow an
> update to be downloaded, will it proceed with in the background whenever
> internet connection is available? Or should I download the update in one lot?
>
> Thanking you and expecting your posts,
>
> Yours sincerely,
> R. Ganesan.

No. It will offer you the option to "Express install" or "Custom Install".
If you select "Express" it will install all of the available updates. If you
select "Custom" it will offer you a dialog box in which you can select check
boxes to install only the updates that you want. Those that you do not check,
you will also be offered to "Not be notified of this update again". Check
that box, and you will not be notified of that update again.
 
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Shenan Stanley

Flightless Bird
R. Ganesan wrote:
> I am using windows xp professional media centre edition. I have
> selected 'notify me befoore installing and updating windows xp'
> option. If I allow an update to be downloaded, will it proceed with
> in the background whenever internet connection is available? Or
> should I download the update in one lot?
>
> Thanking you and expecting your posts

What you have stated you have chosen is actually not an option... What did
you actually choose?

- Automatic
- Download updates for me, but let me choose when to install them.
- Notify me but don't automatically download or install them.
- Turn off Automatic Updates.

There is a good bit of detail about what each of those options do...

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

- Automatic (recommended) Automatically download recommended updates for my
computer and install them

If you select this option, Windows recognizes when you are online and uses
your Internet connection to find updates on the Windows Update Web site or
on the Microsoft Update Web site that apply to your computer. Updates are
downloaded automatically in the background, and you are not notified or
interrupted during this process. An icon appears in the notification area of
your taskbar when the updates are being downloaded. You can point to the
icon to view the download status. When the download is complete, you receive
another message in the notification area so that you can review the updates
that are scheduled for installation.

- Click to select the day and time for scheduled updates to download and
install. You can schedule Automatic Updates for any time of day. However,
your computer must be on at the scheduled time for updates to be installed.

- You can choose to install the updates as soon as they are finished
downloading. To do this, click the download message (or update icon), and
then click Install. If you choose not to install the updates when they
finish downloading, Windows starts the installation on your set schedule.


- Download updates for me, but let me choose when to install them

If you select this option, Windows recognizes when you are online and uses
your Internet connection to automatically download updates from the Windows
Update Web site or from the Microsoft Update Web site. An icon appears in
the notification area of your taskbar when the updates are being downloaded.
You can point to the icon to view the download status. When the download is
complete, you receive another message in the notification area so that you
can review the updates that are scheduled for installation.

- When you want to install the downloaded update, click the message (or
update icon), and then click Install to install the update.

- If you do not want to install a downloaded update, click Details, and
then click to clear the check box next to that update to decline it.


- Notify me but don't automatically download or install them

If you select this option, Windows recognizes when you are online and uses
your Internet connection to search for downloads from the Windows Update Web
site or from the Microsoft Update Web site. An Automatic Updates icon and
message appear in the notification area of your taskbar when new updates are
available to download or to install.

- Click the icon or message to view the updates. If you do not want to
download a selected update, click to clear the check box next to that update
to decline it. Click Start Download to download the selected updates. The
Automatic Updates icon remains in the notification area of your taskbar
while the updates are being downloaded. You can point to the icon to view
the download status.

- When the download is complete, you receive another message in the
notification area stating that the updates are ready to install. Click the
Automatic Updates icon or the message, and then click Install to install the
updates.

Hope that helps - come back and let everyone know.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
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Greg Russell

Flightless Bird
In news:9080ED76-E744-4149-8244-658E16661E06@microsoft.com,
Mark Adams <MarkAdams@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:

> If you select "Custom" it will offer you a dialog
> box in which you can select check boxes to install only the updates
> that you want. Those that you do not check, you will also be offered
> to "Not be notified of this update again". Check that box, and you
> will not be notified of that update again.

I've always unchecked "Malicious Software Removal Tool" and selected to "Not
be notified of this update again".

It never works, and that software component is *always* selected again by
default.
 
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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Assuming you meant the "Notify me but don't automatically download or
install them" option:

<QP>
If you select this option, Windows recognizes when you are online and uses
your Internet connection to search for downloads from the Windows Update Web
site or from the Microsoft Update Web site. An Automatic Updates icon and
message appear in the notification area of your taskbar when new updates are
available to download or to install.

• Click the icon or message to view the updates. If you do not want to
download a selected update, click to clear the check box next to that update
to decline it. [If you wish to hide the update, you can do so now.] Click
Start Download to download the selected updates. The Automatic Updates icon
remains in the notification area of your taskbar while the updates are being
downloaded. [kinda/sorta] You can point to the icon to view the download
status.

• When the download is complete, you receive another message in the
notification area stating that the updates are ready to install. Click the
Automatic Updates icon or the message, [select the update(s) you want to
install] and then click Install to install the updates.
</QP>
Source & more: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


R. Ganesan wrote:
> I am using windows xp professional media centre edition. I have selected
> 'notify me befoore installing and updating windows xp' option. If I allow
> an
> update to be downloaded, will it proceed with in the background whenever
> internet connection is available? Or should I download the update in one
> lot?
>
> Thanking you and expecting your posts,
>
> Yours sincerely,
> R. Ganesan.
 
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SC Tom

Flightless Bird
"Greg Russell" <grussell@invlaid.com> wrote in message
news:7up6jaF7bvU1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:9080ED76-E744-4149-8244-658E16661E06@microsoft.com,
> Mark Adams <MarkAdams@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>
>> If you select "Custom" it will offer you a dialog
>> box in which you can select check boxes to install only the updates
>> that you want. Those that you do not check, you will also be offered
>> to "Not be notified of this update again". Check that box, and you
>> will not be notified of that update again.
>
> I've always unchecked "Malicious Software Removal Tool" and selected to
> "Not
> be notified of this update again".
>
> It never works, and that software component is *always* selected again by
> default.
>
>

That's because it's different every month, therefore a 'new' update, even
though the title remains the same.
--
SC Tom
 
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Greg Russell

Flightless Bird
In news:eYXkTuttKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
SC Tom <sc@tom.net> typed:

>> I've always unchecked "Malicious Software Removal Tool" and selected
>> to "Not be notified of this update again".
>>
>> It never works, and that software component is *always* selected
>> again by default.
>
> That's because it's different every month, therefore a 'new' update,
> even though the title remains the same.

If I close IE then re-open it and update again, even multiple times in a
single day, the same situation occurs, so your assessment is incorrect.
 
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SC Tom

Flightless Bird
"Greg Russell" <grussell@invlaid.com> wrote in message
news:7uqdt0FvstU1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:eYXkTuttKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
> SC Tom <sc@tom.net> typed:
>
>>> I've always unchecked "Malicious Software Removal Tool" and selected
>>> to "Not be notified of this update again".
>>>
>>> It never works, and that software component is *always* selected
>>> again by default.
>>
>> That's because it's different every month, therefore a 'new' update,
>> even though the title remains the same.
>
> If I close IE then re-open it and update again, even multiple times in a
> single day, the same situation occurs, so your assessment is incorrect.
>
>

Well, crap, now I'll probably get fired. . .
--
SC Tom
 
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Greg Russell

Flightless Bird
In news:-Opo0qbytKHA.5936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
SC Tom <sc@tom.net> typed:

>>> That's because it's different every month, therefore a 'new' update,
>>> even though the title remains the same.
>>
>> If I close IE then re-open it and update again, even multiple times
>> in a single day, the same situation occurs, so your assessment is
>> incorrect.
>
> Well, crap, now I'll probably get fired. . .

We see far too many people who somehow feel compelled to make baseless
statements on Usenet.
 
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SC Tom

Flightless Bird
"Greg Russell" <grussell@invlaid.com> wrote in message
news:7uqs8vFj33U1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:-Opo0qbytKHA.5936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
> SC Tom <sc@tom.net> typed:
>
>>>> That's because it's different every month, therefore a 'new' update,
>>>> even though the title remains the same.
>>>
>>> If I close IE then re-open it and update again, even multiple times
>>> in a single day, the same situation occurs, so your assessment is
>>> incorrect.
>>
>> Well, crap, now I'll probably get fired. . .
>
> We see far too many people who somehow feel compelled to make baseless
> statements on Usenet.
>
>
You mean like your baseless reply to my baseless statement? Lighten up;
you'll live longer.

My first reply is what worked for me (once a month) or I wouldn't have
posted it to try and help you.

Have a nice day!
--
SC Tom
 
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EN59CVH

Flightless Bird
Greg Russell wrote:
>
> We see far too many people who somehow feel compelled to make baseless
> statements on Usenet.

The only people who make baseless statements are members of the Pig
Society who have MVPs after their name to denote "Microsoft Vulnerable
Pig". But they are also members of the Geriatric Society so you should
expect that nonsense from them.

hth
 
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EN59CVH

Flightless Bird
Ideally you should select to stop updates from Microsoft website because
they are a complete and utter waste of time. There is no evidence to
suggest they make your system any more secure than it currently is. In
fact "GORDON" recently reported that he is getting more viruses by
installing M$ updates. His message has now been deleted by Microsoft
because they didn't like him reporting such things.

However, if you are still fond of these useless updates, then select "
Download updates for me, but let me choose when to install them". This
way you have the option to install only those updates that are likely to
work on your system.

hth




R. Ganesan wrote:
>
> I am using windows xp professional media centre edition. I have selected
> 'notify me befoore installing and updating windows xp' option. If I allow an
> update to be downloaded, will it proceed with in the background whenever
> internet connection is available? Or should I download the update in one lot?
>
> Thanking you and expecting your posts,
>
> Yours sincerely,
> R. Ganesan.
 
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Doug W.

Flightless Bird
"EN59CVH" <EN59CVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4B885A9B.E5792032@discussions.microsoft.com...
> Ideally you should select to stop updates from Microsoft
> website because
> they are a complete and utter waste of time. There is no
> evidence to
> suggest they make your system any more secure than it
> currently is. In
> fact "GORDON" recently reported that he is getting more
> viruses by
> installing M$ updates. His message has now been deleted by
> Microsoft
> because they didn't like him reporting such things.
>
> However, if you are still fond of these useless updates, then
> select "
> Download updates for me, but let me choose when to install
> them". This
> way you have the option to install only those updates that are
> likely to
> work on your system.
>
> hth

<some snippage>

==
That first statement is bull****, the second is okay.

I prefer to not download ANY automatically but go to the update
site every Tuesday afternoon and select custom and download what
is most appropriate.
==
 
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Greg Russell

Flightless Bird
In news:4B8858CA.E60C9B34@discussions.microsoft.com,
EN59CVH <EN59CVH@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:

> The only people who make baseless statements are members of the Pig
> Society who have MVPs after their name to denote "Microsoft Vulnerable
> Pig".

I've never understood why some people feel an urgency to try and impress
others with some cheap, acronymic qualification after their name ... their
insecurity, one supposes.
 
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ynotssor

Flightless Bird
In news:eEDTFa0tKHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
Doug W. <stand@attention> typed:

> I prefer to not download ANY automatically but go to the update
> site every Tuesday afternoon and select custom and download what
> is most appropriate.

Agreed, with the sole exception of not Tuesday afternoon, as several of us
meet at the swimming pool and then dinner afterwards. <g>
 
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ybS2okj

Flightless Bird
"Greg Russell" <grussell@invlaid.com> wrote in message
news:7ur927FjvdU1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:4B8858CA.E60C9B34@discussions.microsoft.com,
> EN59CVH <EN59CVH@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>
> I've never understood why some people feel an urgency to try and impress
> others with some cheap, acronymic qualification after their name ... their
> insecurity, one supposes.

It could be because people and nutters like you get impressed with almost
anything on these newsgroups.

hth
 
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R. Ganesan

Flightless Bird
Dear Sirs,

Thank you all for your replies. Yes, I have only selected 'Notify me but
don't automatically download or install them' option. There are two more
things that bothers me:

(1) An icon is appearing in notification area. I have allowed the download.
Afterwards the icon appears a short while and it immediately disappears in a
haste. Where to find the icon back again?

(2)Suppose I have to reinstall the Operating System again. Does it mean I
have to download all downloads again and reinstall them back?

Hope to get your further replies and Thanking you,

Yours sincerely,
R. GANESAN.


"R. Ganesan" wrote:

> I am using windows xp professional media centre edition. I have selected
> 'notify me befoore installing and updating windows xp' option. If I allow an
> update to be downloaded, will it proceed with in the background whenever
> internet connection is available? Or should I download the update in one lot?
>
> Thanking you and expecting your posts,
>
> Yours sincerely,
> R. Ganesan.
 
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Shenan Stanley

Flightless Bird
R. Ganesan wrote:
> I am using windows xp professional media centre edition. I have
> selected 'notify me befoore installing and updating windows xp'
> option. If I allow an update to be downloaded, will it proceed with
> in the background whenever internet connection is available? Or
> should I download the update in one lot?
>
> Thanking you and expecting your posts

R. Ganesan wrote:
> Thank you all for your replies. Yes, I have only selected 'Notify
> me but don't automatically download or install them' option. There
> are two more things that bothers me:
>
> (1) An icon is appearing in notification area. I have allowed the
> download. Afterwards the icon appears a short while and it
> immediately disappears in a haste. Where to find the icon back
> again?
>
> (2)Suppose I have to reinstall the Operating System again. Does it
> mean I have to download all downloads again and reinstall them back?
>
> Hope to get your further replies and Thanking you

For those who wonder why "R. Ganesan" is responding to themselves and have
not one clue what any of the responses they might be referring to are
(possibly a majority of you):

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...p.general/browse_frm/thread/8c19030c557f4c59/

That is the conversation (original posting and all responses) archived
indefinitely.

As for further answers...

(1) I would not overly concern yourself - although many do. If you are
ready to install the updates you have now downloaded, simply start to
shutdown (yes, shutdown from the start menu) the computer. You should have
a choice in the pulldown of "Install Updates and Shutdown" --> Choose that.
That way you have accomplished several things at once. More than likely you
would need to reboot the computer afterwards anyway (never a great idea to
postpone rebooting after installing updates, IMO) and you have shutdown the
computer (which if you were walking away from it - may be what you were
wanting to do anyway.)

(2) Quite simply put - yes. If you choose to cleanly install Windows XP at
any point, you will be downloading and installing updates dependant on the
starting point of your installation media. If that media is Windows XP RTM
(no service packs), then you will need to download and install SP1a or SP2
followed by SP3 and all post-SP3 updates. If that media is Windows XP SP1a
or above, then you will need to download and install SP3 and all post-SP3
updates. If you have created an SP3 integrated/slipstreamed Windows XP
installation media set, then you will only need to download the post-SP3
updates (although those are many at this point, growing monthly.) If you
create an SP3 + most post-SP3 updates integrated/slipstreamed Windows XP
installation media set, then you only have to get whatever updates you could
not integrate plus any released after you integrated the updates. You could
use a tool like AutoStreamer or nLite to help you create such a media set.

You could get around some of that by simply keeping a good restorable backup
of your entire system in several different ways. An imaging utility is a
good start (Symantec/Norton Ghost, Acronis TrueImage, Casper, etc and so on
in that category) or some device designed for such things (Seagate
Replica) - so that you could do a bare metal restoration of your entire
partition/disk from a given point in time determined by when you last made
the backup.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
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Unknown

Flightless Bird
Next time the problem shows, put a checkmark in the box (rather than
uncheck), page down a way
and check do not show this update again.
"Greg Russell" <grussell@invlaid.com> wrote in message
news:7ur927FjvdU1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:4B8858CA.E60C9B34@discussions.microsoft.com,
> EN59CVH <EN59CVH@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>
>> The only people who make baseless statements are members of the Pig
>> Society who have MVPs after their name to denote "Microsoft Vulnerable
>> Pig".
>
> I've never understood why some people feel an urgency to try and impress
> others with some cheap, acronymic qualification after their name ... their
> insecurity, one supposes.
>
>
 
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Greg Russell

Flightless Bird
In news:u$ra5k8tKHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> typed:

> Next time the problem shows, put a checkmark in the box (rather than
> uncheck), page down a way and check do not show this update again.

Nope, I don't want to install that component, so I won't check the box.
I don't want to show that update again, yet it persists in showing it after
"do not show this update again" has been checked.
 
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