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Windows Xp Loads Slowly..

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lala

Flightless Bird
I am using windows xp and these days it cost a long time to load the windows. Every time I start my computer. About 4 minutes. I didn't install any software except Joy fax software on my computer these days. However, Joyfax Server works OK, and I am sure it doesn't have a virus.
Can any one help??
 
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Erwin Moller

Flightless Bird
undisclosed schreef:
> I am using windows xp and these days it cost a long time to load the
> windows. Every time I start my computer. About 4 minutes. I didn't
> install any software except Joy fax software on my computer these days.
> However, Joyfax Server works OK, and I am sure it doesn't have a virus.
> Can any one help??
>
>

That can be a zillion things. ;-)

In case your HD was full in the past, I recommend defragging the
filesystem (including systemfiles).

Maybe start first with with a checkdisk on your systemdrive (probably
C:) to make sure your drive is healthy.
Then defrag your drive.

And last (but not least), defrag systemfiles: You'll need this small
utility for that:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx

I have seen huge performance increases on systems that where running a
long time with an almost full hard disk.
In some cases the pagefile and/or registry hive is heavily fragmented,
leading to slow performance.

Hope that helps.

Regards,
Erwin Moller

--
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."
-- C.A.R. Hoare
 
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HeyBub

Flightless Bird
Erwin Moller wrote:
> undisclosed schreef:
>> I am using windows xp and these days it cost a long time to load the
>> windows. Every time I start my computer. About 4 minutes. I didn't
>> install any software except Joy fax software on my computer these
>> days. However, Joyfax Server works OK, and I am sure it doesn't have
>> a virus. Can any one help??
>>
>>
>
> That can be a zillion things. ;-)
>
> In case your HD was full in the past, I recommend defragging the
> filesystem (including systemfiles).
>
> Maybe start first with with a checkdisk on your systemdrive (probably
> C:) to make sure your drive is healthy.
> Then defrag your drive.
>
> And last (but not least), defrag systemfiles: You'll need this small
> utility for that:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx
>
> I have seen huge performance increases on systems that where running a
> long time with an almost full hard disk.
> In some cases the pagefile and/or registry hive is heavily fragmented,
> leading to slow performance.
>
> Hope that helps.
>

Well, it won't hurt.

Defragging an NTFS drive yields almost undetectable improvements in
efficiency - if any. The NTFS system itself is designed to be almost
indifferent to fragmented data structures. Furthermore, few boot-up modules
are of a size such that they would even be susceptible to fragmentation.

As for the registry hive being fragmented, so what? The registry is not
searched sequentially and even if the hive contents were scattered
higgedly-piggedly all over the place, you would be talking about
microseconds to retrieve an entry.
 
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Doum

Flightless Bird
undisclosed écrivait news:e16a81317ebaac3f636a1ce1928f6bd8@nntp-
gateway.com:

>
> I am using windows xp and these days it cost a long time to load the
> windows. Every time I start my computer. About 4 minutes. I didn't
> install any software except Joy fax software on my computer these days.
> However, Joyfax Server works OK, and I am sure it doesn't have a virus.
> Can any one help??
>
>

FWIW, my P4-3.00 ghz, 2GB RAM, takes about 4 minutes to boot (from pressing
the power button ubtil the HD led settles down), I go prepare a coffee, or
make a few phone calls or whatever. Once it's up and running, I find that
it works fine for an older system.
 
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Daave

Flightless Bird
undisclosed wrote:
> I am using windows xp and these days it cost a long time to load the
> windows. Every time I start my computer. About 4 minutes. I didn't
> install any software except Joy fax software on my computer these
> days. However, Joyfax Server works OK, and I am sure it doesn't have
> a virus. Can any one help??

How long did the process used to take?

Did the increased time begin immediately after you installed that
software? If so, that would probably be the reason.

How long ago did you install that particular program?
 
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HeyBub

Flightless Bird
Doum wrote:
> undisclosed écrivait news:e16a81317ebaac3f636a1ce1928f6bd8@nntp-
> gateway.com:
>
>>
>> I am using windows xp and these days it cost a long time to load the
>> windows. Every time I start my computer. About 4 minutes. I didn't
>> install any software except Joy fax software on my computer these
>> days. However, Joyfax Server works OK, and I am sure it doesn't have
>> a virus. Can any one help??
>>
>>
>
> FWIW, my P4-3.00 ghz, 2GB RAM, takes about 4 minutes to boot (from
> pressing the power button ubtil the HD led settles down), I go
> prepare a coffee, or make a few phone calls or whatever. Once it's up
> and running, I find that it works fine for an older system.

Go for "Hibernate." Same thing as a shutdown, but the machine will boot in
ten seconds.
 
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lala

Flightless Bird
Erwin Moller said:
undisclosed schreef:
> I am using windows xp and these days it cost a long time to load the
> windows. Every time I start my computer. About 4 minutes. I didn't
> install any software except Joy fax software on my computer these days.
> However, Joyfax Server works OK, and I am sure it doesn't have a virus.
> Can any one help??
>
>

That can be a zillion things. ;-)

In case your HD was full in the past, I recommend defragging the
filesystem (including systemfiles).

Maybe start first with with a checkdisk on your systemdrive (probably
C:) to make sure your drive is healthy.
Then defrag your drive.

And last (but not least), defrag systemfiles: You'll need this small
utility for that:
PageDefrag

I have seen huge performance increases on systems that where running a
long time with an almost full hard disk.
In some cases the pagefile and/or registry hive is heavily fragmented,
leading to slow performance.

Hope that helps.

Regards,
Erwin Moller

--
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."
-- C.A.R. Hoare
Click to expand...

Hi Erwin,
Thanks for your help. I have checked as your instruction. Now, everything is going OK..:smile: Terrific, the problem doesn't relate to the Joy Fax Server..
 
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Erwin Moller

Flightless Bird
HeyBub schreef:
> Erwin Moller wrote:
>> undisclosed schreef:
>>> I am using windows xp and these days it cost a long time to load the
>>> windows. Every time I start my computer. About 4 minutes. I didn't
>>> install any software except Joy fax software on my computer these
>>> days. However, Joyfax Server works OK, and I am sure it doesn't have
>>> a virus. Can any one help??
>>>
>>>
>> That can be a zillion things. ;-)
>>
>> In case your HD was full in the past, I recommend defragging the
>> filesystem (including systemfiles).
>>
>> Maybe start first with with a checkdisk on your systemdrive (probably
>> C:) to make sure your drive is healthy.
>> Then defrag your drive.
>>
>> And last (but not least), defrag systemfiles: You'll need this small
>> utility for that:
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx
>>
>> I have seen huge performance increases on systems that where running a
>> long time with an almost full hard disk.
>> In some cases the pagefile and/or registry hive is heavily fragmented,
>> leading to slow performance.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>

Hi,

Sorry for the late response.


>
> Well, it won't hurt.


Surely won't.
It even solved the problem of the OP, as it did in a few cases I
encountered.


>
> Defragging an NTFS drive yields almost undetectable improvements in
> efficiency - if any. The NTFS system itself is designed to be almost
> indifferent to fragmented data structures.

Is NTFS indifferent to fragmentation? Where did you get that idea?

Fragmentation is a problem under NTFS, no matter what Microsoft likes
you to believe.

Problem with fragmentation is simply that parts of a single file are
scattered around the HD, so the heads of the HD need to move a lot
instead of reading the whole thing continiously.
You are not talking milliseconds here.


> Furthermore, few boot-up modules
> are of a size such that they would even be susceptible to fragmentation.

Huh?
A block (cluster) is often 4K in size.
How many files needed for booting XP up are smaller then 4K?

All files bigger than that are suspect to fragmentation.
But I must add that most of these files were written when the HD was
empty (in most cases).


>
> As for the registry hive being fragmented, so what? The registry is not
> searched sequentially and even if the hive contents were scattered
> higgedly-piggedly all over the place, you would be talking about
> microseconds to retrieve an entry.
>

Well, to be honest I wouldn't know about the registry.
But judging by the former misinformation you presented I doubt you are
right here.


Erwin Moller



--
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."
-- C.A.R. Hoare
 
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