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Windows updates / Microsoft updates

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by franktee, Aug 12, 2010.

  1. franktee

    franktee Flightless Bird

    Hi all
    Re subject line.
    Does one have any advantage/disadvantage over the other.
    TIA.
    franktee
    KWV
     
  2. Peter Taylor

    Peter Taylor Flightless Bird

    On 8/12/2010 5:07 PM, franktee wrote:
    > Hi all
    > Re subject line.
    > Does one have any advantage/disadvantage over the other.
    > TIA.
    > franktee
    > KWV


    Yeah, Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
    only way to go.

    --
    Peter Taylor
     
  3. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    <QP>
    What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft Updates?

    While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
    Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
    other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live [as well
    as Silverlight & Microsoft Security Essentials]...
    </QP>
    Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/windowsupdate/FAQ.mspx


    franktee wrote:
    > Does one have any advantage/disadvantage over the other.
     
  4. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Peter Taylor wrote:
    >> Does one have any advantage/disadvantage over the other.

    >
    > Yeah, Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
    > only way to go.


    Wanna bet?
     
  5. Peter Taylor

    Peter Taylor Flightless Bird

    On 8/12/2010 7:09 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    > Peter Taylor wrote:
    >>> Does one have any advantage/disadvantage over the other.

    >>
    >> Yeah, Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
    >> only way to go.

    >
    > Wanna bet?


    Every time I try to go there, I get redirected to Microsoft Updates.

    --
    Peter Taylor
     
  6. Spamlet

    Spamlet Flightless Bird

    "franktee" <franktee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:690F42D1-6EAD-4734-BF90-DCCEE7BFAFA8@microsoft.com...
    > Hi all
    > Re subject line.
    > Does one have any advantage/disadvantage over the other.
    > TIA.
    > franktee
    > KWV


    MSUpdates offers you updates for stuff you had forgotten you had and then
    asks you for discs you don't have after wasting your time searching and
    downloading.

    Unless you still can lay your hands on all your programme discs, best stick
    with WU or you may be disappointed.

    S
     
  7. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Peter Taylor wrote:
    >>> ...Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
    >>> only way to go.

    >>
    >> Wanna bet?

    >
    > Every time I try to go there, I get redirected to Microsoft Updates.


    So what? Just because your default update source is Microsoft Update
    doesn't mean Windows Update "doesn't exist any more."

    Wanna "flip" back to Windows Update?...

    Go to Microsoft Update website | Click on Change Settings in left pane |
    Scroll to bottom of page | To Stop Using Microsoft Update | Disable
    Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only (check).

    When you're done, http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com will take you to
    http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate instead of
    http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate

    But you may wanna stick with Microsoft Update:

    <QP>
    What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft Updates?

    While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
    Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
    other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live [as well
    as Silverlight & Microsoft Security Essentials]...
    </QP>
    Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/windowsupdate/FAQ.msp

    If Windows Update is your default, Automatic Updates will NOT offer any
    updates for Office, Silverlight or Windows Live (but Microsoft Security
    Essentials will still continue to auto-update itself).
     
  8. Anthony Buckland

    Anthony Buckland Flightless Bird

    I'm starting to lose track of what is being asserted
    here, but I used Windows Update on two machines
    this morning, successfully.
     
  9. Peter Taylor

    Peter Taylor Flightless Bird

    On 8/13/2010 3:49 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    > Peter Taylor wrote:
    >>>> ...Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
    >>>> only way to go.
    >>>
    >>> Wanna bet?

    >>
    >> Every time I try to go there, I get redirected to Microsoft Updates.

    >
    > So what? Just because your default update source is Microsoft Update
    > doesn't mean Windows Update "doesn't exist any more."
    >
    > Wanna "flip" back to Windows Update?...
    >
    > Go to Microsoft Update website | Click on Change Settings in left pane |
    > Scroll to bottom of page | To Stop Using Microsoft Update | Disable
    > Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only (check).
    >
    > When you're done, http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com will take you to
    > http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate instead of
    > http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate
    >
    > But you may wanna stick with Microsoft Update:
    >
    > <QP>
    > What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft Updates?
    >
    > While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
    > Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
    > other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live [as
    > well as Silverlight & Microsoft Security Essentials]...
    > </QP>
    > Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/windowsupdate/FAQ.msp
    >
    > If Windows Update is your default, Automatic Updates will NOT offer any
    > updates for Office, Silverlight or Windows Live (but Microsoft Security
    > Essentials will still continue to auto-update itself).


    Thanks for clearing that up. I have Office so, naturally, I want MU.

    --
    Peter Taylor
     
  10. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Peter Taylor wrote:
    > On 8/13/2010 3:49 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    >> Peter Taylor wrote:
    >>>>> ...Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
    >>>>> only way to go.
    >>>>
    >>>> Wanna bet?
    >>>
    >>> Every time I try to go there, I get redirected to Microsoft Updates.

    >>
    >> So what? Just because your default update source is Microsoft Update
    >> doesn't mean Windows Update "doesn't exist any more."
    >>
    >> Wanna "flip" back to Windows Update?...
    >>
    >> Go to Microsoft Update website | Click on Change Settings in left pane |
    >> Scroll to bottom of page | To Stop Using Microsoft Update | Disable
    >> Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only (check).
    >>
    >> When you're done, http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com will take you to
    >> http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate instead of
    >> http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate
    >>
    >> But you may wanna stick with Microsoft Update:
    >>
    >> <QP>
    >> What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft Updates?
    >>
    >> While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
    >> Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
    >> other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live [as
    >> well as Silverlight & Microsoft Security Essentials]...
    >> </QP>
    >> Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/windowsupdate/FAQ.msp
    >>
    >> If Windows Update is your default, Automatic Updates will NOT offer any
    >> updates for Office, Silverlight or Windows Live (but Microsoft Security
    >> Essentials will still continue to auto-update itself).

    >
    > Thanks for clearing that up. I have Office so, naturally, I want MU.


    You're welcome & thanks for your feedback. You used to be able to stick
    with Windows Update as default and then update Office via Office Update but
    the latter was discontinued about a year ago.

    Comment: I personally find Automatic Update takes much longer to
    download/install updates (which can make AU a real "memory hog" each time it
    kicks in) when Microsoft Update is the default. YMMV.
     
  11. Peter Taylor

    Peter Taylor Flightless Bird

    On 8/13/2010 11:37 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    > Peter Taylor wrote:
    >> On 8/13/2010 3:49 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    >>> Peter Taylor wrote:
    >>>>>> ...Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
    >>>>>> only way to go.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Wanna bet?
    >>>>
    >>>> Every time I try to go there, I get redirected to Microsoft Updates.
    >>>
    >>> So what? Just because your default update source is Microsoft Update
    >>> doesn't mean Windows Update "doesn't exist any more."
    >>>
    >>> Wanna "flip" back to Windows Update?...
    >>>
    >>> Go to Microsoft Update website | Click on Change Settings in left pane |
    >>> Scroll to bottom of page | To Stop Using Microsoft Update | Disable
    >>> Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only (check).
    >>>
    >>> When you're done, http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com will take you to
    >>> http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate instead of
    >>> http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate
    >>>
    >>> But you may wanna stick with Microsoft Update:
    >>>
    >>> <QP>
    >>> What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft
    >>> Updates?
    >>>
    >>> While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
    >>> Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
    >>> other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live [as
    >>> well as Silverlight & Microsoft Security Essentials]...
    >>> </QP>
    >>> Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/windowsupdate/FAQ.msp
    >>>
    >>> If Windows Update is your default, Automatic Updates will NOT offer any
    >>> updates for Office, Silverlight or Windows Live (but Microsoft Security
    >>> Essentials will still continue to auto-update itself).

    >>
    >> Thanks for clearing that up. I have Office so, naturally, I want MU.

    >
    > You're welcome & thanks for your feedback. You used to be able to stick
    > with Windows Update as default and then update Office via Office Update
    > but the latter was discontinued about a year ago.
    >
    > Comment: I personally find Automatic Update takes much longer to
    > download/install updates (which can make AU a real "memory hog" each
    > time it kicks in) when Microsoft Update is the default. YMMV.


    I go to the web site for XP updates. AU is like watching paint dry with
    that little yellow shield disappearing and seemingly never coming back.
    Windows 7's MU is a big improvement over that.

    --
    Peter Taylor
     
  12. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Peter Taylor wrote:
    <snip>
    > I go to the web site for XP updates. AU is like watching paint dry with
    > that little yellow shield disappearing and seemingly never coming back.
    > Windows 7's MU is a big improvement over that.


    You'll typically only see that behavior in months where bazillions of
    updates were released on Patch Tuesday (e.g., Aug-10). Furthermore, you'd
    see the behavior in all Windows versions as they're all updating via the
    same, swamped update servers (though there appear to be more of them,
    working more efficiently, these days).

    • Updates are not downloaded or the “Automatic Updates†icon does not
    display the status of downloads when you enable the Automatic Updates
    service
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/910340
     
  13. Peter Taylor

    Peter Taylor Flightless Bird

    On 8/14/2010 8:39 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    >
    > • Updates are not downloaded or the “Automatic Updates†icon does not
    > display the status of downloads when you enable the Automatic Updates
    > service
    > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/910340


    I understand now, thanks.

    --
    Peter Taylor
     

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