Windows Update

[Rob]

BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
> Rob wrote on 06 Sep 2010 15:288 GMT:
>> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>> Rob wrote on 06 Sep 2010 07:440 GMT:
>>>> Jeff Strickland <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> I don't think it's MSoft's fault if HP had to come out with a patch that
>>>>> makes its machines work right, and the other machines already work right.
>>>>> Think what you want.
>>>> HP used an invalid method of putting the OS on their systems, which
>>>> caused an invalid file to be present in their image.
>>>>
>>>> I never install systems using disk imaging, but only using unattended
>>>> install from the network. This problem never occurs in that case
>>>> because Windows autodetects the hardware including processor.
>>> Microsoft never heard of beta testing before? There are millions of HP
>>> computers out there and Microsoft was too lazy to test one of them?
>>
>> They probably test only with machines that were installed according
>> to their directions, not with machines that violate those rules.
>>
>> And HP violated the rules.
>
> What rules Rob? All major manufactures image the drives. Are you telling
> me all major manufactures don't follow the rules? Whatever they are?

Ottmar already answered it: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828287/

The rules are clear but HP violated them.
Other major manufacturers did not make this mistake, that is why you don't
read about the same problem on computers from Dell, for example.

 

[philo]

On 09/04/2010 09:53 PM, KCB wrote:
> I have three (3) computers at my house that run Windows XP. All three
> have been updated to SP3, with Internet Explorer 8, and all other
> critical, and most recommended updates, and I haven't had a problem with
> ANY updates. One is a home-built desktop, one is a Toshiba laptop, and
> the last one is a desktop from HP. Can you imagine that? Three entirely
> different machines, all updated to SP3 (with IE, and NO problems!



I have a few machines with XP

and also work on a lot of machines with XP.


In general I've not had a problem with updates...
but on quite a few of the machines IE8 has caused problems.

On those machines I simply uninstalled it and when back to IE7.

Also use Opera , Firefox or Chrome as an alternative

 

[Cat_in_awe]

BillW50 wrote:
> Jeff Strickland wrote on Sun, 5 Sep 2010 09:461 -0700:
>> "KCB" <bcgc_qc@hootmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:i5v0o7$hj4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> I have three (3) computers at my house that run Windows XP. All
>>> three have been updated to SP3, with Internet Explorer 8, and all
>>> other critical, and most recommended updates, and I haven't had a
>>> problem with ANY updates. One is a home-built desktop, one is a
>>> Toshiba laptop, and the last one is a desktop from HP. Can you
>>> imagine that? Three entirely different machines, all updated to
>>> SP3 (with IE, and NO problems!
>>
>> This happens more than you might expect. All of the machines I've
>> worked on are updated to SP3 and the subesquent "recommended
>> updates" and I've had no problems.
>
> Not for me! All of the HP machines running AMD processors would no
> longer boot. HP blames Microsoft and Microsoft blames HP... well
> whatever!
> And those that have been burned by updates before have a right to be
> gun shy of them. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on
> me.
> Speaking about updates, SP2 was once of the worst I have ever
> experienced. Oh they all worked, but every single system I have
> updated from SP1 to SP2 has always lost lots of performance. And the
> only way I got around this problem was to slipstream SP2 on an
> install disc and then it worked fine. Although you had to reinstall
> Windows to do this.
>
> And even if SP3 updates just fine (you must not use OE6 and auto
> compacting), it eats up lots of room.

I got SP3 as soon as it was available and OE6's autocompacting feature has
always worked perfectly.

You suffer from the delusion that if you have a problem with a computer then
everyone must be having that same problem.


As the Windows updates doesn't
> give you a choice to clean up all of the unnecessary files you don't
> need anymore. That is just sloppy programming. If you don't care about
> sloppy programming, then I guess it wouldn't bother you.
>
> Nonetheless, there are still thousands of not millions of users who
> have been burned by Windows updates. This is undeniable and it is
> real. Even Microsoft have documented some of these problems.