"John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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> Colin Trunt wrote:
>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
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>>> Colin Trunt wrote:
>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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>>>>> Colin Trunt wrote:
>>>>>> "Colin Trunt" <colin@trunt.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:xflvn.2326$LS2.1843@newsfe13.ams2...
>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>> Colin Trunt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can boot either normally or to recovery as llong as I don't
>>>>>>>>> mess about to much and do it directly.
>>>>>>>> What exactly does that mean? Mess about with what and what do you
>>>>>>>> mean by "do it directly"? If the Recovery Console is installed you
>>>>>>>> get a boot menu when you boot the computer and you select to boot
>>>>>>>> the Recovery Console or the Windows installation, what is there to
>>>>>>>> mess about with there and what is there to do directly other than
>>>>>>>> selecting which option to boot?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How many hard disks do you have and how many partitions do you have
>>>>>>>> on these hard disks? Where is the Windows installation and where
>>>>>>>> is the Command Console installed? To avoid confusion please don't
>>>>>>>> use the term "drive" when answering, use the terms "Hard Disk" and
>>>>>>>> "Partition".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>> First I get a screen which says hit f10 for recovery, then it goes
>>>>>>> to a choice
>>>>>>> 1)windows
>>>>>>> 2)recovey
>>>>>>> 3)ubuntu
>>>>>> my boot.ini
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [boot loader]
>>>>>> timeout=15
>>>>>> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
>>>>>> [operating systems]
>>>>>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
>>>>>> Home Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptOut
>>>>>> C
CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
>>>>>> c
wubildr.mbr="Ubuntu"
>>>>> Comes back to the question of how many hard disks and partitions do
>>>>> you have and where exactly is Windows installed. Also, where is this
>>>>> boot.ini file located? (on which hard disk and on which partition?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also need the results of the set system command.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is most likely due to an incorrect ARC path in the
>>>>> boot.ini file.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>> This is the boot.ini on drive d: (recovery drive)
>>>>
>>>> [boot loader]
>>>> timeout=15
>>>> default=C
CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT
>>>> [operating systems]
>>>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
>>>> Professional" /fastdetect
>>>> C
CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
>>>> c
wubildr.mbr="Ubuntu"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ah......im thinking
>>>>
>>>> I don;t know what happens at startup.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway partion 2 is c: I think and 1 is d:
>>>> When I list then in disk management they are show as d: then c :
>>>> in the bottom rigt panel
>>> Pulling a tooth from an angry lion would be easier than obtaining
>>> information from you... one more try:
>>>
>>>
>>> 1- How many physical hard disks do you have in the computer?
>>>
>>> 2- How many partitions do you have on each hard disk?
>>>
>>> 3- Please post the results of the SET SYSTEM command.
>>>
>>> Also, you are posting different variations of the boot.ini file, Windows
>>> only uses one boot.ini file. When you run the SET SYSTEM command it
>>> will return a line telling you:
>>>
>>> SystemDrive=?:
>>>
>>> (? will be C or D ...or ...) the correct boot.ini file will be in the
>>> root of the specified SystemDrive, for example C
or D
. Please post
>>> the contents of the correct boot.ini file.
>>>
>>> John
>>
>>
>> two phyisical drives
>> one has partitios d: and c:
>> other is f: one parition f:
>>
>> There is an ini on both c: and d: as posted, they are different.
>>
>> ALLUSERSPROFILE=C
Documents and Settings\All Users
>> APPDATA=C
Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Application Data
>> CLASSPATH=.;C
Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06\lib\ext\QTJava.zip
>> CLIENTNAME=Console
>> CommonProgramFiles=C
Program Files\Common Files
>> COMPUTERNAME=ZAX
>> ComSpec=C
WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe
>> DJGPP=c
djgpp\djgpp.env
>> FP_NO_HOST_CHECK=NO
>> HOMEDRIVE=C:
>> HOMEPATH=\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner
>> LOGONSERVER=\\ZAX
>> NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS=1
>> OS=Windows_NT
>> Path=C
WINDOWS\system32;C
WINDOWS;C
WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;c
Python22;C
Program
>> Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel;C
Program
>> Files\QuickTime\QTSystem\;C
MinGW\bin;
>> PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH
>> PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE=x86
>> PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=x86 Family 15 Model 47 Stepping 2, AuthenticAMD
>> PROCESSOR_LEVEL=15
>> PROCESSOR_REVISION=2f02
>> ProgramFiles=C
Program Files
>> PROMPT=$P$G
>> QTJAVA=C
Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06\lib\ext\QTJava.zip
>> SAN_DIR=C
Program Files\SiSoftware\SiSoftware Sandra Lite XII.SP2c
>> SESSIONNAME=Console
>> SonicCentral=c
Program Files\Common Files\Sonic Shared\Sonic Central\
>> SystemDrive=C:
>> SystemRoot=C
WINDOWS
>> TEMP=C
DOCUME~1\HP_Owner\LOCALS~1\Temp
>> TMP=C
DOCUME~1\HP_Owner\LOCALS~1\Temp
>> USERDOMAIN=ZAX
>> USERNAME=HP_Owner
>> USERPROFILE=C
Documents and Settings\HP_Owner
>> windir=C
WINDOWS
>> __COMPAT_LAYER
isableNXShowUI
>>
>>
>>
>> c:boot.ini[boot loader]
>> timeout=15
>> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
>> [operating systems]
>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
>> Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptOut
>> C
CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
>> c
wubildr.mbr="Ubuntu"
>
> Do you get a brief error message telling you that the boot.ini file is
> invalid when you boot Windows? Modify your c
boot.ini file as such (to
> avoid errors you can copy and paste):
No I never get any errors on a normal boot, none whatsoever.
The only time I have had error is when I try to do a recovery, there
seems to be two paths to recovery.
The only time I have ever got an error is when I have selected option 2 for
recovery, but 'bottled out' and decided to boot normally, this brings back
the
boot menu IIRC, and IIRC when I press 1 for a normal boot I get the hal.dll
error. That's the only time I get it on a normal boot.
I suspect doing it that way may cause it to look on drive d: for hal.dll
and it won't find it there, as it has no windows folder on it.
I don't recall an error message about boot.ini at all, although there is
a small possibilty I might have missed it but I doubt it.
>
> timeout=15
> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
> [operating systems]
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Partion 1 Microsoft Windows
> XP Home Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptOut
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Partition 2 Microsoft Windows
> XP Home Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptOut
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Phoney Baloney Operating
> System" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptOut
> C
CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
> c
wubildr.mbr="Ubuntu"
>
> The changes above are obvious enough, when you boot the computer you will
> see the "Phoney Baloney Operating System" in the boot menu, this will
> confirm that you are indeed using the boot.ini file on C: Try booting the
> "Partition 1 Microsoft..." and the "Partition 2 Microsoft..." and see what
> happens. Also try booting the Recovery Console. After you confirm the
> proper Windows boot partition we can modify the boot.ini file again and
> remove the invalid entries.
>
>
>
>
>> Note it seems c: is partition 2
>
> I don't think so, I think that it is partition 1 and that you get the
> error when you boot the Command Console because the boot.ini file on C:
> points to the wrong partition.
I don't get that error, at least not all the time, I have booted into the
Command Console before it must be the right partition I would imagine.
Also the way it is listed in disk management suggests partition 1 is d:
When I google images of "disk management"
http://images.google.co.uk/images?u...isch:1&q=disk+management&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=18
I can see mine is different, d: comes before c:
>
> Do you see C: as partition 2 in the Disk Management Tool? To open the
> Disk Management tool enter diskmgmt.msc in the Start Menu Run box. You
> can also verify this at the Command Prompt with the Diskpart utility.
Disk part confirms partition 2 is 69GB, and that's the size of C:
It says partion 1 is 6164MB which is the smaller recovery partition d:
SO I think that's established what partion is what, thus partion 2 is c:
>
>> I am not syre if the d:boot.ini is ever used, there is no windows
>> directory on d:
>> there is I386 though, all the folders are locked
>
> The SystemDrive=C: above tells us that the c
boot.ini file is the one
> used to boot the system, I don't know why you have this boot.ini file on
> D
... But I think that it does have the correct ARC path and that the one
> on C: has an improper path, try the modified boot.ini file and then report
> your findings.
>
> John
Well I may change those ini files on c: presumably between the quotes
is just a comment, so I can change without fear of damage?
I will just stick a part 1 in or whatever so I can see what is what.
I am reluctant to do anything more yet because I am worried I might
not be able to boot up at all?
What if I make changes and it won't boot?
How do I change the boot.ini then?
I need to know that really.