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Windows more secure - Hacker states

A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Bob I wrote:
>
>
> On 4/19/2010 12:29 PM, ray wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>
>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html

>>
>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is expended in
>> keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on Linux.

>
> Yep, uh-huh you bet.
>
> http://www.linuxtoday.com/security/2010032601335NWEV


From the article:

"No, Linux is no harder, in fact probably easier, although some of this
is dependent on the particular flavor of Linux you’re talking about
[Alias' note: and the strength of the root password along with the user
not giving permission for something to install that the user didn't mean
to install.]. The organizers don’t choose to use Linux because not that
many people use it on the desktop. The other thing is, the
vulnerabilities are in the browsers, and mostly, the same browsers that
run on Linux, run on Windows."

Note the last sentence and my note.
--
Alias
 
B

Bill Yanaire

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
news:hqi4s7$v56$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Bob I wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 4/19/2010 12:29 PM, ray wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>
>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
>>>
>>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is expended in
>>> keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on Linux.

>>
>> Yep, uh-huh you bet.
>>
>> http://www.linuxtoday.com/security/2010032601335NWEV

>
> From the article:
>
> "No, Linux is no harder, in fact probably easier, although some of this is
> dependent on the particular flavor of Linux you’re talking about [Alias'
> note: and the strength of the root password along with the user not giving
> permission for something to install that the user didn't mean to
> install.]. The organizers don’t choose to use Linux because not that many
> people use it on the desktop. The other thing is, the vulnerabilities are
> in the browsers, and mostly, the same browsers that run on Linux, run on
> Windows."
>
> Note the last sentence and my note.
> --
> Alias


Oh so you have to create a strong password. Most don't. Anyway, it's best
not to use that SHITTY Ubuntu/Linux because it's just a TOY used by very
few.
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Bill Yanaire wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
> news:hqi4s7$v56$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Bob I wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/19/2010 12:29 PM, ray wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
>>>>
>>>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is expended in
>>>> keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on Linux.
>>>
>>> Yep, uh-huh you bet.
>>>
>>> http://www.linuxtoday.com/security/2010032601335NWEV

>>
>> From the article:
>>
>> "No, Linux is no harder, in fact probably easier, although some of
>> this is dependent on the particular flavor of Linux you’re talking
>> about [Alias' note: and the strength of the root password along with
>> the user not giving permission for something to install that the user
>> didn't mean to install.]. The organizers don’t choose to use Linux
>> because not that many people use it on the desktop. The other thing
>> is, the vulnerabilities are in the browsers, and mostly, the same
>> browsers that run on Linux, run on Windows."
>>
>> Note the last sentence and my note.
>> --
>> Alias

>
> Oh so you have to create a strong password. Most don't.


Your Administrator in Windows password is blank?

> Anyway, it's
> best not to use that SHITTY Ubuntu/Linux because it's just a TOY used by
> very few.


We know your opinion. We also know you're a liar and full of shit.
--
Alias
 
B

Bill Yanaire

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
news:hqi9hj$nba$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hqi4s7$v56$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Bob I wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/19/2010 12:29 PM, ray wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is expended in
>>>>> keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on Linux.
>>>>
>>>> Yep, uh-huh you bet.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.linuxtoday.com/security/2010032601335NWEV
>>>
>>> From the article:
>>>
>>> "No, Linux is no harder, in fact probably easier, although some of this
>>> is dependent on the particular flavor of Linux you’re talking about
>>> [Alias' note: and the strength of the root password along with the user
>>> not giving permission for something to install that the user didn't mean
>>> to install.]. The organizers don’t choose to use Linux because not that
>>> many people use it on the desktop. The other thing is, the
>>> vulnerabilities are in the browsers, and mostly, the same browsers that
>>> run on Linux, run on Windows."
>>>
>>> Note the last sentence and my note.
>>> --
>>> Alias

>>
>> Oh so you have to create a strong password. Most don't.

>
> Your Administrator in Windows password is blank?
>


No it isn't. Mine is secure. Oops.


>> Anyway, it's best not to use that SHITTY Ubuntu/Linux because it's just
>> a TOY used by very few.

>
> We know your opinion. We also know you're a liar and full of shit.
> --
> Alias


Who is this "WE" you are talking about? Last I heard, you only speak for
yourself and what you do write is just your ILL INFORMED OPINION which most
dismiss.
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Bill Yanaire wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
> news:hqi9hj$nba$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
>>> news:hqi4s7$v56$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Bob I wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/19/2010 12:29 PM, ray wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is
>>>>>> expended in
>>>>>> keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on
>>>>>> Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, uh-huh you bet.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.linuxtoday.com/security/2010032601335NWEV
>>>>
>>>> From the article:
>>>>
>>>> "No, Linux is no harder, in fact probably easier, although some of
>>>> this is dependent on the particular flavor of Linux you’re talking
>>>> about [Alias' note: and the strength of the root password along with
>>>> the user not giving permission for something to install that the
>>>> user didn't mean to install.]. The organizers don’t choose to use
>>>> Linux because not that many people use it on the desktop. The other
>>>> thing is, the vulnerabilities are in the browsers, and mostly, the
>>>> same browsers that run on Linux, run on Windows."
>>>>
>>>> Note the last sentence and my note.
>>>> --
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> Oh so you have to create a strong password. Most don't.

>>
>> Your Administrator in Windows password is blank?
>>

>
> No it isn't. Mine is secure. Oops.
>
>
>>> Anyway, it's best not to use that SHITTY Ubuntu/Linux because it's
>>> just a TOY used by very few.

>>
>> We know your opinion. We also know you're a liar and full of shit.
>> --
>> Alias

>
> Who is this "WE" you are talking about? Last I heard, you only speak for
> yourself and what you do write is just your ILL INFORMED OPINION which
> most dismiss.
>
>


You're getting boring again and you're still a liar and full of shit.

--
Alias
 
B

Bill Yanaire

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
news:hqiao4$s98$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hqi9hj$nba$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
>>>> news:hqi4s7$v56$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Bob I wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/19/2010 12:29 PM, ray wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is
>>>>>>> expended in
>>>>>>> keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on
>>>>>>> Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, uh-huh you bet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.linuxtoday.com/security/2010032601335NWEV
>>>>>
>>>>> From the article:
>>>>>
>>>>> "No, Linux is no harder, in fact probably easier, although some of
>>>>> this is dependent on the particular flavor of Linux you’re talking
>>>>> about [Alias' note: and the strength of the root password along with
>>>>> the user not giving permission for something to install that the
>>>>> user didn't mean to install.]. The organizers don’t choose to use
>>>>> Linux because not that many people use it on the desktop. The other
>>>>> thing is, the vulnerabilities are in the browsers, and mostly, the
>>>>> same browsers that run on Linux, run on Windows."
>>>>>
>>>>> Note the last sentence and my note.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> Oh so you have to create a strong password. Most don't.
>>>
>>> Your Administrator in Windows password is blank?
>>>

>>
>> No it isn't. Mine is secure. Oops.
>>
>>
>>>> Anyway, it's best not to use that SHITTY Ubuntu/Linux because it's
>>>> just a TOY used by very few.
>>>
>>> We know your opinion. We also know you're a liar and full of shit.
>>> --
>>> Alias

>>
>> Who is this "WE" you are talking about? Last I heard, you only speak for
>> yourself and what you do write is just your ILL INFORMED OPINION which
>> most dismiss.
>>
>>

>
> You're getting boring again and you're still a liar and full of shit.
>
> --
> Alias


Best thing you can do is to add me to your killfile.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 4/19/2010 10:29 AM, ray wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>
>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html

>
> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is expended in
> keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on Linux.


Keep telling yourself that myth if it makes you feel better!
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 4/19/2010 12:05 PM, Alias wrote:
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hqi4s7$v56$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Bob I wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/19/2010 12:29 PM, ray wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is expended in
>>>>> keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on Linux.
>>>>
>>>> Yep, uh-huh you bet.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.linuxtoday.com/security/2010032601335NWEV
>>>
>>> From the article:
>>>
>>> "No, Linux is no harder, in fact probably easier, although some of
>>> this is dependent on the particular flavor of Linux you’re talking
>>> about [Alias' note: and the strength of the root password along with
>>> the user not giving permission for something to install that the user
>>> didn't mean to install.]. The organizers don’t choose to use Linux
>>> because not that many people use it on the desktop. The other thing
>>> is, the vulnerabilities are in the browsers, and mostly, the same
>>> browsers that run on Linux, run on Windows."
>>>
>>> Note the last sentence and my note.
>>> --
>>> Alias

>>
>> Oh so you have to create a strong password. Most don't.

>

Your Administrator in Windows password is blank?

> You dumb fuck, by default, the real Administrator account in Vista/7 is disabled.


>> Anyway, it's best not to use that SHITTY Ubuntu/Linux because it's
>> just a TOY used by very few.

>
> We know your opinion. We also know you're a liar and full of shit.


Now you're projecting...again...as usual. You seem to like shooting
yourself in the foot.
Bad habit!
Oops
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 4/19/2010 12:25 PM, Alias wrote:
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hqi9hj$nba$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
>>>> news:hqi4s7$v56$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Bob I wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/19/2010 12:29 PM, ray wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is
>>>>>>> expended in
>>>>>>> keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on
>>>>>>> Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, uh-huh you bet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.linuxtoday.com/security/2010032601335NWEV
>>>>>
>>>>> From the article:
>>>>>
>>>>> "No, Linux is no harder, in fact probably easier, although some of
>>>>> this is dependent on the particular flavor of Linux you’re talking
>>>>> about [Alias' note: and the strength of the root password along with
>>>>> the user not giving permission for something to install that the
>>>>> user didn't mean to install.]. The organizers don’t choose to use
>>>>> Linux because not that many people use it on the desktop. The other
>>>>> thing is, the vulnerabilities are in the browsers, and mostly, the
>>>>> same browsers that run on Linux, run on Windows."
>>>>>
>>>>> Note the last sentence and my note.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> Oh so you have to create a strong password. Most don't.
>>>
>>> Your Administrator in Windows password is blank?
>>>

>>
>> No it isn't. Mine is secure. Oops.
>>
>>
>>>> Anyway, it's best not to use that SHITTY Ubuntu/Linux because it's
>>>> just a TOY used by very few.
>>>
>>> We know your opinion. We also know you're a liar and full of shit.
>>> --
>>> Alias

>>
>> Who is this "WE" you are talking about? Last I heard, you only speak for
>> yourself and what you do write is just your ILL INFORMED OPINION which
>> most dismiss.
>>
>>

>
> You're getting boring again and you're still a liar and full of shit.
>

You're projecting again. Stop it, or else just leave.
 
R

ray

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:13:38 -0700, Frank wrote:

> On 4/19/2010 10:29 AM, ray wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>
>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html

>>
>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is expended in
>> keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on Linux.

>
> Keep telling yourself that myth if it makes you feel better!


Or we could simply compare how much time, money, effort we've spent on
our respective systems to keep them malware free over the last eight
years. I'll go first - zero.
 
B

Bill Yanaire

Flightless Bird
"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
news:8340kdFhp0U41@mid.individual.net...
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:13:38 -0700, Frank wrote:
>
>> On 4/19/2010 10:29 AM, ray wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>
>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
>>>
>>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is expended in
>>> keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on Linux.

>>
>> Keep telling yourself that myth if it makes you feel better!

>
> Or we could simply compare how much time, money, effort we've spent on
> our respective systems to keep them malware free over the last eight
> years. I'll go first - zero.


You didn't take into account how many hours it took to research the cryptic
line commands you need to enter go get that SHITTY Ubuntu working right.
The countless hours to figure out which SYNAPTIC programs to install. The
countless hours to get the right drivers for sound, video, and MOBO that are
missing. and on and on and on.........
 
R

ray

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:05:52 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:8340kdFhp0U41@mid.individual.net...
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:13:38 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/19/2010 10:29 AM, ray wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
>>>>
>>>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is expended
>>>> in keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on
>>>> Linux.
>>>
>>> Keep telling yourself that myth if it makes you feel better!

>>
>> Or we could simply compare how much time, money, effort we've spent on
>> our respective systems to keep them malware free over the last eight
>> years. I'll go first - zero.

>
> You didn't take into account how many hours it took to research the
> cryptic line commands you need to enter go get that SHITTY Ubuntu
> working right. The countless hours to figure out which SYNAPTIC programs
> to install. The countless hours to get the right drivers for sound,
> video, and MOBO that are missing. and on and on and on.........


You're wrong, as usual. I run Ubuntu and Debian and a couple of other
Linux distributions and I've not had to resort to "cryptic line commands"
to get any of them running at any point. Generally a Linux install is
simpler and quicker with many, many more apps included than an MS
install. Now, if you'd like to count all the time you spent hunting down
or buying and installing apps equivalent to what are already included in
Linux, you'll be ever further behind!
 
S

Stephen Wolstenholme

Flightless Bird
On 19 Apr 2010 22:42:31 GMT, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:

>I run Ubuntu and Debian and a couple of other
>Linux distributions and I've not had to resort to "cryptic line commands"
>to get any of them running at any point.


Why do you need to run more than one distribution?

Steve

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F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 4/19/2010 3:42 PM, ray wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:05:52 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>
>> "ray"<ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:8340kdFhp0U41@mid.individual.net...
>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:13:38 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/19/2010 10:29 AM, ray wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is expended
>>>>> in keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on
>>>>> Linux.
>>>>
>>>> Keep telling yourself that myth if it makes you feel better!
>>>
>>> Or we could simply compare how much time, money, effort we've spent on
>>> our respective systems to keep them malware free over the last eight
>>> years. I'll go first - zero.

>>
>> You didn't take into account how many hours it took to research the
>> cryptic line commands you need to enter go get that SHITTY Ubuntu
>> working right. The countless hours to figure out which SYNAPTIC programs
>> to install. The countless hours to get the right drivers for sound,
>> video, and MOBO that are missing. and on and on and on.........

>
> You're wrong, as usual.


No, you're wrong...as usual.

I run Ubuntu and Debian and a couple of other
> Linux distributions and I've not had to resort to "cryptic line commands"
> to get any of them running at any point. Generally a Linux install is
> simpler and quicker with many, many more apps included than an MS
> install.


That is simply not true!

Now, if you'd like to count all the time you spent hunting down
> or buying and installing apps equivalent to what are already included in
> Linux, you'll be ever further behind!


Do yourself a big favor and get lost, ok?
 
D

Death

Flightless Bird
ray wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:05:52 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:8340kdFhp0U41@mid.individual.net...
>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:13:38 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/19/2010 10:29 AM, ray wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is expended
>>>>> in keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on
>>>>> Linux.
>>>>
>>>> Keep telling yourself that myth if it makes you feel better!
>>>
>>> Or we could simply compare how much time, money, effort we've spent on
>>> our respective systems to keep them malware free over the last eight
>>> years. I'll go first - zero.

>>
>> You didn't take into account how many hours it took to research the
>> cryptic line commands you need to enter go get that SHITTY Ubuntu
>> working right. The countless hours to figure out which SYNAPTIC programs
>> to install. The countless hours to get the right drivers for sound,
>> video, and MOBO that are missing. and on and on and on.........

>
> You're wrong, as usual. I run Ubuntu and Debian and a couple of other
> Linux distributions and I've not had to resort to "cryptic line commands"
> to get any of them running at any point. Generally a Linux install is
> simpler and quicker with many, many more apps included than an MS
> install. Now, if you'd like to count all the time you spent hunting down
> or buying and installing apps equivalent to what are already included in
> Linux, you'll be ever further behind!


You should try Fedora.
Just getting the nvidia drivers installed, the nouveau drivers
blacklisted is a trial.

Hate to tell you, but the only "free app" worth a shit in Linux is Open
Office ... and downloading that into Windows takes no longer than in
Linux, and the Windows version is more likely to be the newer
version than the "pre-packaged version" most distros have in their
package manager.

--
Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
R

ray

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:36:55 +0200, Death wrote:

> ray wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:05:52 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>
>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8340kdFhp0U41@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:13:38 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/19/2010 10:29 AM, ray wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:29:42 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yawn. I guess that's why so much time, effort and money is expended
>>>>>> in keeping MS machines up and running - while none of the three on
>>>>>> Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep telling yourself that myth if it makes you feel better!
>>>>
>>>> Or we could simply compare how much time, money, effort we've spent
>>>> on our respective systems to keep them malware free over the last
>>>> eight years. I'll go first - zero.
>>>
>>> You didn't take into account how many hours it took to research the
>>> cryptic line commands you need to enter go get that SHITTY Ubuntu
>>> working right. The countless hours to figure out which SYNAPTIC
>>> programs to install. The countless hours to get the right drivers
>>> for sound, video, and MOBO that are missing. and on and on and
>>> on.........

>>
>> You're wrong, as usual. I run Ubuntu and Debian and a couple of other
>> Linux distributions and I've not had to resort to "cryptic line
>> commands" to get any of them running at any point. Generally a Linux
>> install is simpler and quicker with many, many more apps included than
>> an MS install. Now, if you'd like to count all the time you spent
>> hunting down or buying and installing apps equivalent to what are
>> already included in Linux, you'll be ever further behind!

>
> You should try Fedora.
> Just getting the nvidia drivers installed, the nouveau drivers
> blacklisted is a trial.


Why would I want to do that? Quite frankly, I'm not enamoured of RPM
distributions - I much prefer Debian package management.

>
> Hate to tell you, but the only "free app" worth a shit in Linux is Open
> Office ... and downloading that into Windows takes no longer than in
> Linux, and the Windows version is more likely to be the newer version
> than the "pre-packaged version" most distros have in their package
> manager.


That's your opinion, which you're welcome to. I disagree.
 
R

ray

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:00:27 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

> On 19 Apr 2010 22:42:31 GMT, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
>
>>I run Ubuntu and Debian and a couple of other Linux distributions and
>>I've not had to resort to "cryptic line commands" to get any of them
>>running at any point.

>
> Why do you need to run more than one distribution?
>
> Steve


Taylor the distro to the machine. I run Debian on my wife's netbook and
on a 'lite' desktop because they are better for those architectures. I
run Ubuntu (not the most recent version) on a couple of desktops and a
2ghz laptop. Run Gentoo on a mini-itx.
 
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