Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit version

[Andrew]

"Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
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> On 3/16/2010 12:11 PM, Dave wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "nooneyouknow" <nooneyouknow@spam.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:Ff-dnfGw6Z7WKgPWnZ2dnUVZ8sydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jack" <nospam@invalid.not> wrote in message
>>>>> news:2vynn.95919$Ye4.50372@newsfe11.iad...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> newssCdnQfU1PpoLQPWnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:hnmaf1$946$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> Does anybody know whether or not a 64 bit version also comes with
>>>>>>>> 32 bit version? I have seen an offer of 64 bit version at
>>>>>>>> students price but not sure if it also includes 32 bit version.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It allows you to download either 32 or 64 bit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where do you download the OEM versions so it works with the key one
>>>>>> already has?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a key you don't need to download one. You apply to MS
>>>>> and if you are genuine the post a link to your university email
>>>>> address that lets you download your copy from Digital River
>>>>
>>>> This Digital River?
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/microsoft_windows_7_digital_river_headache/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/01/dziuba_digital_river/
>>>>
>>>> No Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I saw nothing other than the Retail versions being offered. Like
>>>> Jack, I think the OEM Key won't work with a retail copy.
>>>
>>> The op asked about student Purchased copies the answer was that they
>>> do both 32 bit and 64 bit
>>> of Home or Pro. But as you don't get Physical discs then you get one
>>> or the other.
>> I bought Windows 7 Professional Student Edition from there, got a
>> download to use right away w/key and a DVD in mail later, but had to pay
>> small amount extra for the DVD. When you download you can download and
>> exe to run right away or an iso to burn a DVD. Would have opted for the
>> iso, but I've not burned an ISO DVD yet and didn't want to go through
>> the learning curve right now. If It's like burning a CD then it should
>> be painless.
>
> If you've burned a regular CD ISO then burning a DVD ISO is not that
> much different. The main difference is ensuring you have the software
> that is capable of doing the task. If you know it can, then you simply
> open the ISO with your burner software and tell it to burn... oh and
> naturally you must use a blank DVD.
>

Like the ISO burner built into Win7?
Just click on an ISO file and it will ask you if you want to burn it.

--
Andrew

 

[Dave]

"Andrew" <yogig@no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
> news:hnr6ne$qc3$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 3/16/2010 12:11 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:IPidnS0TpZJqHALWnZ2dnUVZ8jqdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>>
>>>> "nooneyouknow" <nooneyouknow@spam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b9ec82e$0$14019$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Ff-dnfGw6Z7WKgPWnZ2dnUVZ8sydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jack" <nospam@invalid.not> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:2vynn.95919$Ye4.50372@newsfe11.iad...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> newssCdnQfU1PpoLQPWnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:hnmaf1$946$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>> Does anybody know whether or not a 64 bit version also comes with
>>>>>>>>> 32 bit version? I have seen an offer of 64 bit version at
>>>>>>>>> students price but not sure if it also includes 32 bit version.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It allows you to download either 32 or 64 bit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where do you download the OEM versions so it works with the key one
>>>>>>> already has?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have a key you don't need to download one. You apply to MS
>>>>>> and if you are genuine the post a link to your university email
>>>>>> address that lets you download your copy from Digital River
>>>>>
>>>>> This Digital River?
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/microsoft_windows_7_digital_river_headache/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/01/dziuba_digital_river/
>>>>>
>>>>> No Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, I saw nothing other than the Retail versions being offered. Like
>>>>> Jack, I think the OEM Key won't work with a retail copy.
>>>>
>>>> The op asked about student Purchased copies the answer was that they
>>>> do both 32 bit and 64 bit
>>>> of Home or Pro. But as you don't get Physical discs then you get one
>>>> or the other.
>>> I bought Windows 7 Professional Student Edition from there, got a
>>> download to use right away w/key and a DVD in mail later, but had to pay
>>> small amount extra for the DVD. When you download you can download and
>>> exe to run right away or an iso to burn a DVD. Would have opted for the
>>> iso, but I've not burned an ISO DVD yet and didn't want to go through
>>> the learning curve right now. If It's like burning a CD then it should
>>> be painless.
>>
>> If you've burned a regular CD ISO then burning a DVD ISO is not that
>> much different. The main difference is ensuring you have the software
>> that is capable of doing the task. If you know it can, then you simply
>> open the ISO with your burner software and tell it to burn... oh and
>> naturally you must use a blank DVD.
>>
>
> Like the ISO burner built into Win7?
> Just click on an ISO file and it will ask you if you want to burn it.
>
> --
> Andrew
Thanks for the tips guys. I guess the main thing is the same as burning a
CD, make sure you select ISO image or you create a coaster.
Dave

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:42:01 -0700, Andrew wrote:

> "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
> news:hnr6ne$qc3$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 3/16/2010 12:11 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:IPidnS0TpZJqHALWnZ2dnUVZ8jqdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>>
>>>> "nooneyouknow" <nooneyouknow@spam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b9ec82e$0$14019$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Ff-dnfGw6Z7WKgPWnZ2dnUVZ8sydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jack" <nospam@invalid.not> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:2vynn.95919$Ye4.50372@newsfe11.iad...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> newssCdnQfU1PpoLQPWnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:hnmaf1$946$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>> Does anybody know whether or not a 64 bit version also comes with
>>>>>>>>> 32 bit version? I have seen an offer of 64 bit version at
>>>>>>>>> students price but not sure if it also includes 32 bit version.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It allows you to download either 32 or 64 bit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where do you download the OEM versions so it works with the key one
>>>>>>> already has?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have a key you don't need to download one. You apply to MS
>>>>>> and if you are genuine the post a link to your university email
>>>>>> address that lets you download your copy from Digital River
>>>>>
>>>>> This Digital River?
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/microsoft_windows_7_digital_river_headache/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/01/dziuba_digital_river/
>>>>>
>>>>> No Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, I saw nothing other than the Retail versions being offered. Like
>>>>> Jack, I think the OEM Key won't work with a retail copy.
>>>>
>>>> The op asked about student Purchased copies the answer was that they
>>>> do both 32 bit and 64 bit
>>>> of Home or Pro. But as you don't get Physical discs then you get one
>>>> or the other.
>>> I bought Windows 7 Professional Student Edition from there, got a
>>> download to use right away w/key and a DVD in mail later, but had to pay
>>> small amount extra for the DVD. When you download you can download and
>>> exe to run right away or an iso to burn a DVD. Would have opted for the
>>> iso, but I've not burned an ISO DVD yet and didn't want to go through
>>> the learning curve right now. If It's like burning a CD then it should
>>> be painless.
>>
>> If you've burned a regular CD ISO then burning a DVD ISO is not that
>> much different. The main difference is ensuring you have the software
>> that is capable of doing the task. If you know it can, then you simply
>> open the ISO with your burner software and tell it to burn... oh and
>> naturally you must use a blank DVD.
>>
>
> Like the ISO burner built into Win7?
> Just click on an ISO file and it will ask you if you want to burn it.

NOW you tell me, after I wasted all that money on CDBurnerXP

Thanks for the info - I hadn't noticed that. Next time I'll use the W7
version just for fun.

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Andrew.

I'm running Win7 Ultimate x64. When I open a Command Prompt window and type
Dir Cnotepad.exe /s /a, I get SIX files!

<paste>
Directory of CWindows

07/13/2009 089 PM 193,536 notepad.exe
1 File(s) 193,536 bytes

Directory of CWindows\System32

07/13/2009 089 PM 193,536 notepad.exe
1 File(s) 193,536 bytes

Directory of CWindows\SysWOW64

07/13/2009 08:14 PM 179,712 notepad.exe
1 File(s) 179,712 bytes

Directory of
CWindows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft-windows-notepadwin_31bf3856ad364
e35_6.1.7600.16385_none_9ebebe8614be1470

07/13/2009 089 PM 193,536 notepad.exe
1 File(s) 193,536 bytes

Directory of
CWindows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft-windows-notepad_31bf3856ad364e35
_6.1.7600.16385_none_cb0f7f2289b0c21a

07/13/2009 089 PM 193,536 notepad.exe
1 File(s) 193,536 bytes

Directory of
CWindows\winsxs\wow64_microsoft-windows-notepad_31bf3856ad364e35
_6.1.7600.16385_none_d5642974be118415

07/13/2009 08:14 PM 179,712 notepad.exe
1 File(s) 179,712 bytes

Total Files Listed:
6 File(s) 1,133,568 bytes
</paste>

I don't know if any of these are 32-bit, but they are all a part of Win7
Ultimate x64. Note that 4 are 193,536 bytes each; the other 2 are 179,712
each. All are dated 7/13/2009, but the smaller ones are time-stamped 25
minutes earlier.

Win7 Ultimate x86 has 4 copies of notepad.exe, 179,712 bytes each and
time-stamped 8:14 PM. Two are in Windows and Windows\System32; the other
two are in folders with long names starting with Windows\winsxs\x86...

Note that all of these are in the Windows folder tree, NOT in Program Files
or Program Files (x86).

Does this help any?

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Andrew" <yogig@no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> news:etkvp5pg7vchndjl67k58n6se0t05bobmt@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:149 -0500, "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Andrew" <yogig@no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hnmfb4$lnp$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>>>> > news:midtp51i3o31jo1a68e6rlg6q8epdfnsmp@4ax.com...
>>>> >> On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:59:00 +0000, JT
>>>> >> <JT@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Does anybody know whether or not a 64 bit version also comes with
>>>> >>> 32 bit
>>>> >>> version?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> With a regular Retail version, yes (however your license lets you
>>>> >> choose between the two; you may not use both, on two machines). With
>>>> >> an OEM version, no.
>>>> >
>>>> > What about using both on the same machine?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> If you install the 64 bit OS then you have both.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not correct. If you install the 64-bit version, you have the 64-bit
>>> version. You do not have both versions.
>>>
>>>
>>>> It will run 32 and 64 bit
>>>> software
>>>
>>>
>>> That's generally (but not 100%) correct. But even if it were 100%
>>> correct, having the ability to run both doesn't mean that you have
>>> both the 64-bit and 32-bit versions.
>>>
>>>
>>>> and there is both installed from MS, such as IE in both 32 and 64.
>>>> Plus you take advantage of a 64 bit architecture.
>>>> If you install 32 bit version because you don't have 64 bit
>>>> architecture,
>>>> then you only get 32 bit software.
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>
>> OK, since I'm technically wrong, please inform me what the difference is
>> Dave
>
> Here's one example.
> If you run Notepad.exe in the 64bit version you are running 64bit notepad.
> There is no 32bit notepad in that version.
>
> --
> Andrew

 

[Yousuf Khan]

Andrew wrote:
> "Doum" <me@domain.net> wrote in message
> news:XnF9D3D7BC2A9CFAdoumdomainnet@94.75.214.39...
>> "Andrew" <yogig@no.spam.hotmail.com> écrivait
>>> What about using both on the same machine?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Why would you want to do that?
>
> For software compatibility testing purposes.
>

You might be better off running a 32-bit version as a virtual machine
under the 64-bit version, then. There's very little to tell the
difference between the 32-bit version and the 64-bit version visually,
so running it virtually will let you keep track of the 32-bit version.

Yousuf Khan