Windows 7 Explorer annoyance.

[Thip]

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
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>
> http://www.forum.freecommander.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2372&sid=ca23d3c48b2bcdf99ea6e32cf2d16c47
>
>

>
> Hi. Just wanted to ask if there is any way to help FC run well on W7 x64.
> I guess it is not planned to create a x64 version but maybe with some
> tricks.
>

<snip>

I've been running it on x64 since I first installed W7. No problems here,
but that's not to say others won't have problems.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 1/24/10, Dave-UK posted:
> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
> news:47-dnenxFoZzO8HWnZ2dnUVZ8iCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>>
>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>> news:WY07n.17711$CM7.9755@newsfe04.iad...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u9mdncdyPowOEsHWnZ2dnUVZ8tmdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>> I am attempting to transfer files.
>>>> I have opened Explorer twice, once on the left and once on the right and
>>>> want to transfer Folders in the left hand Explorer to a new location.
>>>> This should be easy.
>>>> Having done the same for years, in previous version of Windows, I (silly
>>>> me) expected it to work the same in Windows 7 Explorer.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes when I Cut a folder from one location and Paste it into a new
>>>> (quite different) folder in another, I get the following :
>>>> "Folder in Use"
>>>> "The action can't be completed because the folder or a file in it is open
>>>> in another program.
>>>> Close the folder or file and try again."
>>>>
>>>> This is complete twaddle, nothing is open in another program.
>>>> The only activity is two instances of Explorer.
>>>> No open files anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't happen all the time, and goes away when I reboot, which is the
>>>> only time I can then Cut&Paste the Folder to where it is supposed to go.
>>>>
>>>> This never happened in XP (I avoided Vista).
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone throw some light on why this happens?
>>>>
>>>> Grrr.
>>>>
>>>> Grenou.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Instead of doing a cut and paste, just drag the file(s) from the (for
>>> example) left instance of Explorer to the right instance. I do it that way
>>> all the time and have never gotten an error message. When doing it from my
>>> USB pen drive to a folder on my C: drive, I do it one of two ways- either
>>> drag it over, then delete the source, or right-click drag and pick 'Move'.
>>> No errors ever that way either.
>>> -- SC Tom
>>>
>>>
>>
>> True, that does work, but cutting and pasting 'should' too, hehe.
>>
>> I am re-doing my Photo folder, slightly more efficiently than before.
>> There are thousands of images to move.
>> Pulling across (copying) and then deleting is twice the amount of work that
>> it should be.
>> Silly Microsoft, they didn't get that quite right
>>
>> Thanks for responding SC Tom
>>
>> Grenou

> To move lots of files I find it easier change to details view.
> Then select the files and drag them to the new folder.
> To select a range of contiguous files in a block, hold the Shift
> key and select the first file.
> Then, still with Shift key held, select the last file.
> That will select all the files in between.
> Then drag the lot to the new folder.
> To select several files in a random order press the Control key,
> select the first file, and with the Control key still held, select
> another file, then another.
> Each file will remain selected.
> Then drag one and the others will follow.

You don't have to hold the shift or control key down, as long as you
press it *before* the next mouse click.

Also - you can select a block and then with control-click select an
isolated file, and you can also use control-click to unselect a single
file, whether it's in a block or separate. That is, control-click acts
as a toggle.

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com

 

[Char Jackson]

On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:46:04 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
<letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:

>On 1/24/10, Dave-UK posted:
>> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
>> news:47-dnenxFoZzO8HWnZ2dnUVZ8iCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>>> news:WY07n.17711$CM7.9755@newsfe04.iad...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u9mdncdyPowOEsHWnZ2dnUVZ8tmdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>>> I am attempting to transfer files.
>>>>> I have opened Explorer twice, once on the left and once on the right and
>>>>> want to transfer Folders in the left hand Explorer to a new location.
>>>>> This should be easy.
>>>>> Having done the same for years, in previous version of Windows, I (silly
>>>>> me) expected it to work the same in Windows 7 Explorer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes when I Cut a folder from one location and Paste it into a new
>>>>> (quite different) folder in another, I get the following :
>>>>> "Folder in Use"
>>>>> "The action can't be completed because the folder or a file in it is open
>>>>> in another program.
>>>>> Close the folder or file and try again."
>>>>>
>>>>> This is complete twaddle, nothing is open in another program.
>>>>> The only activity is two instances of Explorer.
>>>>> No open files anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't happen all the time, and goes away when I reboot, which is the
>>>>> only time I can then Cut&Paste the Folder to where it is supposed to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> This never happened in XP (I avoided Vista).
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone throw some light on why this happens?
>>>>>
>>>>> Grrr.
>>>>>
>>>>> Grenou.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Instead of doing a cut and paste, just drag the file(s) from the (for
>>>> example) left instance of Explorer to the right instance. I do it that way
>>>> all the time and have never gotten an error message. When doing it from my
>>>> USB pen drive to a folder on my C: drive, I do it one of two ways- either
>>>> drag it over, then delete the source, or right-click drag and pick 'Move'.
>>>> No errors ever that way either.
>>>> -- SC Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> True, that does work, but cutting and pasting 'should' too, hehe.
>>>
>>> I am re-doing my Photo folder, slightly more efficiently than before.
>>> There are thousands of images to move.
>>> Pulling across (copying) and then deleting is twice the amount of work that
>>> it should be.
>>> Silly Microsoft, they didn't get that quite right
>>>
>>> Thanks for responding SC Tom
>>>
>>> Grenou
>
>> To move lots of files I find it easier change to details view.
>> Then select the files and drag them to the new folder.
>> To select a range of contiguous files in a block, hold the Shift
>> key and select the first file.
>> Then, still with Shift key held, select the last file.
>> That will select all the files in between.
>> Then drag the lot to the new folder.
>> To select several files in a random order press the Control key,
>> select the first file, and with the Control key still held, select
>> another file, then another.
>> Each file will remain selected.
>> Then drag one and the others will follow.
>
>You don't have to hold the shift or control key down, as long as you
>press it *before* the next mouse click.
>
>Also - you can select a block and then with control-click select an
>isolated file, and you can also use control-click to unselect a single
>file, whether it's in a block or separate. That is, control-click acts
>as a toggle.

And after you have a block selected and you've used Ctrl-Click to
select or deselect a few singles, you can select a second block by
Ctrl-Clicking the first (or last) item in the second block, then
pressing Ctrl-Shift-Click to select the last (or first) item in the
second block.

In that way, you can move up and down in a long list of files and
select multiple blocks, multiple singles, and you can also deselect
one or more singles, all without disturbing the rest of your
selections.

 

[Al Smith]

Dave-UK wrote:
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:yeo7n.61038$Db2.25028@edtnps83...
>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>
>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>> news:gIn7n.61023$Db2.11873@edtnps83...
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Win 7 marks everything that has been downloaded from the internet as
>>>>> unsafe.
>>>>> That's what triggers the warning box when you try to run something
>>>>> you've downloaded.
>>>>> If you clear the box that says' Always ask before opening this file'
>>>>> then that 'unblocks' it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Question for you. I've been trying different file managers. I tried
>>>> out Q-Dir and UltraExplorer, but that's not the question. I was trying
>>>> to get zip folders to display their contents in UltraExplorer (it
>>>> won't do it, apparently) and noticed that *some* of my ZIP folders
>>>> will display their contents in the right panel of Windows Explorer
>>>> when I click to highlight them on the left side of the program, but
>>>> other ZIP folders won't show their contents. It's been driving me nuts
>>>> for the past hour, trying to figure out what is different between the
>>>> ZIP archieves that display their contents, and the ZIP archives that
>>>> don't show them. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> -Al-
>>>
>>> Maybe the zip files that won't open need to be unblocked, if they came
>>> from another computer or the net.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I checked out their properties, and I did the unblocking thing on
>> them. No difference.
>>
>> -Al-
>
>
> All of mine seem to open on the right side.
> I've just tried a few zips to see if it was because
> of a different account owner but there's no difference.
>
>

I tried every combination of things I could think of to get them
to open -- no luck. They seem identical to the ones that open, as
far as the properties go.

-Al-

 

[Dave-UK]

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message newsmx7n.61135$Db2.35666@edtnps83...
> Dave-UK wrote:
>>
>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>> news:yeo7n.61038$Db2.25028@edtnps83...
>>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:gIn7n.61023$Db2.11873@edtnps83...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Win 7 marks everything that has been downloaded from the internet as
>>>>>> unsafe.
>>>>>> That's what triggers the warning box when you try to run something
>>>>>> you've downloaded.
>>>>>> If you clear the box that says' Always ask before opening this file'
>>>>>> then that 'unblocks' it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Question for you. I've been trying different file managers. I tried
>>>>> out Q-Dir and UltraExplorer, but that's not the question. I was trying
>>>>> to get zip folders to display their contents in UltraExplorer (it
>>>>> won't do it, apparently) and noticed that *some* of my ZIP folders
>>>>> will display their contents in the right panel of Windows Explorer
>>>>> when I click to highlight them on the left side of the program, but
>>>>> other ZIP folders won't show their contents. It's been driving me nuts
>>>>> for the past hour, trying to figure out what is different between the
>>>>> ZIP archieves that display their contents, and the ZIP archives that
>>>>> don't show them. Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Al-
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the zip files that won't open need to be unblocked, if they came
>>>> from another computer or the net.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I checked out their properties, and I did the unblocking thing on
>>> them. No difference.
>>>
>>> -Al-
>>
>>
>> All of mine seem to open on the right side.
>> I've just tried a few zips to see if it was because
>> of a different account owner but there's no difference.
>>
>>
>
> I tried every combination of things I could think of to get them
> to open -- no luck. They seem identical to the ones that open, as
> far as the properties go.
>
> -Al-

If you like, can you upload one of the zips somewhere so I can have a look at it?

 

[Al Smith]

Dave-UK wrote:
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> newsmx7n.61135$Db2.35666@edtnps83...
>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>
>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>> news:yeo7n.61038$Db2.25028@edtnps83...
>>>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:gIn7n.61023$Db2.11873@edtnps83...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Win 7 marks everything that has been downloaded from the internet as
>>>>>>> unsafe.
>>>>>>> That's what triggers the warning box when you try to run something
>>>>>>> you've downloaded.
>>>>>>> If you clear the box that says' Always ask before opening this file'
>>>>>>> then that 'unblocks' it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question for you. I've been trying different file managers. I tried
>>>>>> out Q-Dir and UltraExplorer, but that's not the question. I was
>>>>>> trying
>>>>>> to get zip folders to display their contents in UltraExplorer (it
>>>>>> won't do it, apparently) and noticed that *some* of my ZIP folders
>>>>>> will display their contents in the right panel of Windows Explorer
>>>>>> when I click to highlight them on the left side of the program, but
>>>>>> other ZIP folders won't show their contents. It's been driving me
>>>>>> nuts
>>>>>> for the past hour, trying to figure out what is different between the
>>>>>> ZIP archieves that display their contents, and the ZIP archives that
>>>>>> don't show them. Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe the zip files that won't open need to be unblocked, if they came
>>>>> from another computer or the net.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I checked out their properties, and I did the unblocking thing on
>>>> them. No difference.
>>>>
>>>> -Al-
>>>
>>>
>>> All of mine seem to open on the right side.
>>> I've just tried a few zips to see if it was because
>>> of a different account owner but there's no difference.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I tried every combination of things I could think of to get them to
>> open -- no luck. They seem identical to the ones that open, as far as
>> the properties go.
>>
>> -Al-
>
> If you like, can you upload one of the zips somewhere so I can have a
> look at it?
>
>

No, but thanks, anyway.

I spent all of yesterday trying different free file manager
replacements, just to see if I could find one that did what I
wanted. No luck. My findings, for anybody who is looking into
alternative file managers, is that all of them have limitations.

FreeCommander, which is pretty good, won't show a full directory
tree structure -- it only displays one drive at a time, and it
doesn't show the libraries. Some people may find the lack of the
libraries in the file manager a good thing, though. Also, no
launch bar.

Cubic Explorer, which is fairly nice once you get it configured,
doesn't have a launch bar, either, and won't show a split screen.

Neither of these two gave much trouble, so anyone who wants an
alternative to the Windows 7 File Explorer might want to try them.
These are the two I left on my computer to play with.

I also tried PowerDesk 5, my all-time favorite free file manager.
It loads fine but once loaded, doesn't want to show itself when it
is re-started, even when started in compatibility mode. Version
six I haven't tried on this computer, but it's got an annoying nag
screen, and my impression when I played with it a couple of years
ago is that it is identical to version five apart from a bit of
frosting.

I also tried Explorer 2 Lite, UltraExplorer (which is a lot like
Cubic Explorer), MuCommander, ExplorerXP, AccelMan (which like
PowerDesk, installed fine but didn't want to open after
installed), and three or four others such as that quad screen
manager the name of which escapes me. None of them has the
functionality of PowerDesk, which is what I'm looking for -- a
program launch bar, the ability to ZIP and UnZIP files right in
the file manager, the ability to peek into ZIP and RAR archives,
and to drag and drop files out of ZIP and RAR archives, a two-pane
function, a graphical preview function, a command line,
customizable and moveable button bars.

-Al-

 

[Grenou]

I'll stay at the top

Wow, you deserve a gold star for road-testing all the different file
managers!
I wouldn't have a problem with Windows Explorer, if it worked properly.
Maybe after the first Service Pack (I live in hope).

Grenou

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
news:cvD7n.63082$PH1.31549@edtnps82...
> Dave-UK wrote:
>>
>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>> newsmx7n.61135$Db2.35666@edtnps83...
>>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:yeo7n.61038$Db2.25028@edtnps83...
>>>>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:gIn7n.61023$Db2.11873@edtnps83...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Win 7 marks everything that has been downloaded from the internet
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> unsafe.
>>>>>>>> That's what triggers the warning box when you try to run something
>>>>>>>> you've downloaded.
>>>>>>>> If you clear the box that says' Always ask before opening this
>>>>>>>> file'
>>>>>>>> then that 'unblocks' it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question for you. I've been trying different file managers. I tried
>>>>>>> out Q-Dir and UltraExplorer, but that's not the question. I was
>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>> to get zip folders to display their contents in UltraExplorer (it
>>>>>>> won't do it, apparently) and noticed that *some* of my ZIP folders
>>>>>>> will display their contents in the right panel of Windows Explorer
>>>>>>> when I click to highlight them on the left side of the program, but
>>>>>>> other ZIP folders won't show their contents. It's been driving me
>>>>>>> nuts
>>>>>>> for the past hour, trying to figure out what is different between
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> ZIP archieves that display their contents, and the ZIP archives that
>>>>>>> don't show them. Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe the zip files that won't open need to be unblocked, if they
>>>>>> came
>>>>>> from another computer or the net.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I checked out their properties, and I did the unblocking thing on
>>>>> them. No difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Al-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All of mine seem to open on the right side.
>>>> I've just tried a few zips to see if it was because
>>>> of a different account owner but there's no difference.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I tried every combination of things I could think of to get them to
>>> open -- no luck. They seem identical to the ones that open, as far as
>>> the properties go.
>>>
>>> -Al-
>>
>> If you like, can you upload one of the zips somewhere so I can have a
>> look at it?
>>
>>
>
> No, but thanks, anyway.
>
> I spent all of yesterday trying different free file manager replacements,
> just to see if I could find one that did what I wanted. No luck. My
> findings, for anybody who is looking into alternative file managers, is
> that all of them have limitations.
>
> FreeCommander, which is pretty good, won't show a full directory tree
> structure -- it only displays one drive at a time, and it doesn't show the
> libraries. Some people may find the lack of the libraries in the file
> manager a good thing, though. Also, no launch bar.
>
> Cubic Explorer, which is fairly nice once you get it configured, doesn't
> have a launch bar, either, and won't show a split screen.
>
> Neither of these two gave much trouble, so anyone who wants an alternative
> to the Windows 7 File Explorer might want to try them. These are the two I
> left on my computer to play with.
>
> I also tried PowerDesk 5, my all-time favorite free file manager. It loads
> fine but once loaded, doesn't want to show itself when it is re-started,
> even when started in compatibility mode. Version six I haven't tried on
> this computer, but it's got an annoying nag screen, and my impression when
> I played with it a couple of years ago is that it is identical to version
> five apart from a bit of frosting.
>
> I also tried Explorer 2 Lite, UltraExplorer (which is a lot like Cubic
> Explorer), MuCommander, ExplorerXP, AccelMan (which like PowerDesk,
> installed fine but didn't want to open after installed), and three or four
> others such as that quad screen manager the name of which escapes me. None
> of them has the functionality of PowerDesk, which is what I'm looking
> for -- a program launch bar, the ability to ZIP and UnZIP files right in
> the file manager, the ability to peek into ZIP and RAR archives, and to
> drag and drop files out of ZIP and RAR archives, a two-pane function, a
> graphical preview function, a command line, customizable and moveable
> button bars.
>
> -Al-
>

 

[Seth]

"Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
news:gPKdnfU-h833GsLWnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@bt.com...
> I'll stay at the top
>
> Wow, you deserve a gold star for road-testing all the different file
> managers!
> I wouldn't have a problem with Windows Explorer, if it worked properly.
> Maybe after the first Service Pack (I live in hope).


Well, SP1 is in early testing now but I don't recall seeing any file
explorer issues listed. I'll check again on the next release notes update.

 

[Charles Tomaras]

"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hjo1b6$q0s$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
> news:gPKdnfU-h833GsLWnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> I'll stay at the top
>>
>> Wow, you deserve a gold star for road-testing all the different file
>> managers!
>> I wouldn't have a problem with Windows Explorer, if it worked properly.
>> Maybe after the first Service Pack (I live in hope).
>
>
> Well, SP1 is in early testing now but I don't recall seeing any file
> explorer issues listed. I'll check again on the next release notes
> update.


Wouldn't think that problems with releasing handles on files would be talked
about as an explorer issue. Might just be an annoyance that gets fixed and
never mentioned.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 1/25/10, Char Jackson posted:
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:46:04 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
> <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:

>> On 1/24/10, Dave-UK posted:
>>> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
>>> news:47-dnenxFoZzO8HWnZ2dnUVZ8iCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:WY07n.17711$CM7.9755@newsfe04.iad...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u9mdncdyPowOEsHWnZ2dnUVZ8tmdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>>>> I am attempting to transfer files.
>>>>>> I have opened Explorer twice, once on the left and once on the right and
>>>>>> want to transfer Folders in the left hand Explorer to a new location.
>>>>>> This should be easy.
>>>>>> Having done the same for years, in previous version of Windows, I (silly
>>>>>> me) expected it to work the same in Windows 7 Explorer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes when I Cut a folder from one location and Paste it into a new
>>>>>> (quite different) folder in another, I get the following :
>>>>>> "Folder in Use"
>>>>>> "The action can't be completed because the folder or a file in it is
>>>>>> open in another program.
>>>>>> Close the folder or file and try again."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is complete twaddle, nothing is open in another program.
>>>>>> The only activity is two instances of Explorer.
>>>>>> No open files anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't happen all the time, and goes away when I reboot, which is
>>>>>> the only time I can then Cut&Paste the Folder to where it is supposed
>>>>>> to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This never happened in XP (I avoided Vista).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone throw some light on why this happens?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grrr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grenou.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of doing a cut and paste, just drag the file(s) from the (for
>>>>> example) left instance of Explorer to the right instance. I do it that
>>>>> way all the time and have never gotten an error message. When doing it
>>>>> from my USB pen drive to a folder on my C: drive, I do it one of two
>>>>> ways- either drag it over, then delete the source, or right-click drag
>>>>> and pick 'Move'. No errors ever that way either.
>>>>> -- SC Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> True, that does work, but cutting and pasting 'should' too, hehe.
>>>>
>>>> I am re-doing my Photo folder, slightly more efficiently than before.
>>>> There are thousands of images to move.
>>>> Pulling across (copying) and then deleting is twice the amount of work
>>>> that it should be.
>>>> Silly Microsoft, they didn't get that quite right
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for responding SC Tom
>>>>
>>>> Grenou
>>
>>> To move lots of files I find it easier change to details view.
>>> Then select the files and drag them to the new folder.
>>> To select a range of contiguous files in a block, hold the Shift
>>> key and select the first file.
>>> Then, still with Shift key held, select the last file.
>>> That will select all the files in between.
>>> Then drag the lot to the new folder.
>>> To select several files in a random order press the Control key,
>>> select the first file, and with the Control key still held, select
>>> another file, then another.
>>> Each file will remain selected.
>>> Then drag one and the others will follow.
>>
>> You don't have to hold the shift or control key down, as long as you
>> press it *before* the next mouse click.
>>
>> Also - you can select a block and then with control-click select an
>> isolated file, and you can also use control-click to unselect a single
>> file, whether it's in a block or separate. That is, control-click acts
>> as a toggle.

> And after you have a block selected and you've used Ctrl-Click to
> select or deselect a few singles, you can select a second block by
> Ctrl-Clicking the first (or last) item in the second block, then
> pressing Ctrl-Shift-Click to select the last (or first) item in the
> second block.

> In that way, you can move up and down in a long list of files and
> select multiple blocks, multiple singles, and you can also deselect
> one or more singles, all without disturbing the rest of your
> selections.

I noticed today that I misspoke, or at least was unclear, in my remark
above. I'll copy and correct it now

You don't have to hold the shift or control key down CONTINUOUSLY, as
long as you press AND HOLD it *before* the next mouse click.

Thanks for the expansion of my expansion

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com

 

[Al Smith]

Grenou wrote:
> I'll stay at the top
>
> Wow, you deserve a gold star for road-testing all the different file
> managers!
> I wouldn't have a problem with Windows Explorer, if it worked properly.
> Maybe after the first Service Pack (I live in hope).
>
> Grenou

I tried out a couple more tonight -- A43 and AC Browser Plus, both
free. They both work fairly well. I guess I'm fussy, but neither
is exactly what I'm looking for.

-Al-

>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:cvD7n.63082$PH1.31549@edtnps82...
>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>
>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>> newsmx7n.61135$Db2.35666@edtnps83...
>>>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:yeo7n.61038$Db2.25028@edtnps83...
>>>>>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:gIn7n.61023$Db2.11873@edtnps83...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Win 7 marks everything that has been downloaded from the
>>>>>>>>> internet as
>>>>>>>>> unsafe.
>>>>>>>>> That's what triggers the warning box when you try to run something
>>>>>>>>> you've downloaded.
>>>>>>>>> If you clear the box that says' Always ask before opening this
>>>>>>>>> file'
>>>>>>>>> then that 'unblocks' it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Question for you. I've been trying different file managers. I tried
>>>>>>>> out Q-Dir and UltraExplorer, but that's not the question. I was
>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>> to get zip folders to display their contents in UltraExplorer (it
>>>>>>>> won't do it, apparently) and noticed that *some* of my ZIP folders
>>>>>>>> will display their contents in the right panel of Windows Explorer
>>>>>>>> when I click to highlight them on the left side of the program, but
>>>>>>>> other ZIP folders won't show their contents. It's been driving me
>>>>>>>> nuts
>>>>>>>> for the past hour, trying to figure out what is different
>>>>>>>> between the
>>>>>>>> ZIP archieves that display their contents, and the ZIP archives
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> don't show them. Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe the zip files that won't open need to be unblocked, if they
>>>>>>> came
>>>>>>> from another computer or the net.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I checked out their properties, and I did the unblocking thing on
>>>>>> them. No difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All of mine seem to open on the right side.
>>>>> I've just tried a few zips to see if it was because
>>>>> of a different account owner but there's no difference.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I tried every combination of things I could think of to get them to
>>>> open -- no luck. They seem identical to the ones that open, as far as
>>>> the properties go.
>>>>
>>>> -Al-
>>>
>>> If you like, can you upload one of the zips somewhere so I can have a
>>> look at it?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No, but thanks, anyway.
>>
>> I spent all of yesterday trying different free file manager
>> replacements, just to see if I could find one that did what I wanted.
>> No luck. My findings, for anybody who is looking into alternative file
>> managers, is that all of them have limitations.
>>
>> FreeCommander, which is pretty good, won't show a full directory tree
>> structure -- it only displays one drive at a time, and it doesn't show
>> the libraries. Some people may find the lack of the libraries in the
>> file manager a good thing, though. Also, no launch bar.
>>
>> Cubic Explorer, which is fairly nice once you get it configured,
>> doesn't have a launch bar, either, and won't show a split screen.
>>
>> Neither of these two gave much trouble, so anyone who wants an
>> alternative to the Windows 7 File Explorer might want to try them.
>> These are the two I left on my computer to play with.
>>
>> I also tried PowerDesk 5, my all-time favorite free file manager. It
>> loads fine but once loaded, doesn't want to show itself when it is
>> re-started, even when started in compatibility mode. Version six I
>> haven't tried on this computer, but it's got an annoying nag screen,
>> and my impression when I played with it a couple of years ago is that
>> it is identical to version five apart from a bit of frosting.
>>
>> I also tried Explorer 2 Lite, UltraExplorer (which is a lot like Cubic
>> Explorer), MuCommander, ExplorerXP, AccelMan (which like PowerDesk,
>> installed fine but didn't want to open after installed), and three or
>> four others such as that quad screen manager the name of which escapes
>> me. None of them has the functionality of PowerDesk, which is what I'm
>> looking for -- a program launch bar, the ability to ZIP and UnZIP
>> files right in the file manager, the ability to peek into ZIP and RAR
>> archives, and to drag and drop files out of ZIP and RAR archives, a
>> two-pane function, a graphical preview function, a command line,
>> customizable and moveable button bars.
>>
>> -Al-
>>

 

[William]

On 26-01-10, in <cvD7n.63082$PH1.31549@edtnps82>, Al Smith wrote:

>
> I spent all of yesterday trying different free file manager replacements,
> just to see if I could find one that did what I wanted. No luck. My findings,
> for anybody who is looking into alternative file managers, is that all of
> them have limitations.

You forgot Directory Opus!

IMHO one of the best.

--
William.

 

[Al Smith]

William wrote:
> On 26-01-10, in <cvD7n.63082$PH1.31549@edtnps82>, Al Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> I spent all of yesterday trying different free file manager
>> replacements, just to see if I could find one that did what I wanted.
>> No luck. My findings, for anybody who is looking into alternative file
>> managers, is that all of them have limitations.
>
> You forgot Directory Opus!
>
> IMHO one of the best.
>

You have to pay for that one. I wouldn't pay for such a program,
so not much point in me testing it out on the free trial. I'm
sure, from what I've read, that it's good.

-Al-

 

[Roy Smith]

On 1/27/2010 3:28 AM, William wrote:
> On 26-01-10, in <cvD7n.63082$PH1.31549@edtnps82>, Al Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> I spent all of yesterday trying different free file manager
>> replacements, just to see if I could find one that did what I wanted.
>> No luck. My findings, for anybody who is looking into alternative file
>> managers, is that all of them have limitations.
>
> You forgot Directory Opus!
>
> IMHO one of the best.

Amen! I started using DOpus back when I still had an Amiga.

--

Roy Smith
Windows 7

Timestamp: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:46:48 PM

 

[Roy Smith]

On 1/27/2010 11:16 AM, Al Smith wrote:
> William wrote:
>> On 26-01-10, in <cvD7n.63082$PH1.31549@edtnps82>, Al Smith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I spent all of yesterday trying different free file manager
>>> replacements, just to see if I could find one that did what I wanted.
>>> No luck. My findings, for anybody who is looking into alternative file
>>> managers, is that all of them have limitations.
>>
>> You forgot Directory Opus!
>>
>> IMHO one of the best.
>>
>
> You have to pay for that one. I wouldn't pay for such a program, so not
> much point in me testing it out on the free trial. I'm sure, from what
> I've read, that it's good.

It is, and it's worth every penny you spend for it. Greg Perry provides
awesome support for the software, and it's very customizable for
whatever need you have.

--

Roy Smith
Windows 7

Timestamp: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:50:26 PM

 

[Decrepit]

Al, try out Total Commander. I have used it for years (it used to be
called Windows Commander), and I absolutely refuse to be without it.

If I am not mistaken it can be run as shareware with only a little nag
screen at startup where you have to click on a number. Don't know if
it will run indefinitely in this mode, but do yourself a favour and
check it out.


On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:03:57 GMT, Al Smith <invalid@address.com>
wrote:

>Grenou wrote:
>> I'll stay at the top
>>
>> Wow, you deserve a gold star for road-testing all the different file
>> managers!
>> I wouldn't have a problem with Windows Explorer, if it worked properly.
>> Maybe after the first Service Pack (I live in hope).
>>
>> Grenou
>
>I tried out a couple more tonight -- A43 and AC Browser Plus, both
>free. They both work fairly well. I guess I'm fussy, but neither
>is exactly what I'm looking for.
>
>-Al-
>
>>
>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>> news:cvD7n.63082$PH1.31549@edtnps82...
>>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>> newsmx7n.61135$Db2.35666@edtnps83...
>>>>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:yeo7n.61038$Db2.25028@edtnps83...
>>>>>>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:gIn7n.61023$Db2.11873@edtnps83...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Win 7 marks everything that has been downloaded from the
>>>>>>>>>> internet as
>>>>>>>>>> unsafe.
>>>>>>>>>> That's what triggers the warning box when you try to run something
>>>>>>>>>> you've downloaded.
>>>>>>>>>> If you clear the box that says' Always ask before opening this
>>>>>>>>>> file'
>>>>>>>>>> then that 'unblocks' it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Question for you. I've been trying different file managers. I tried
>>>>>>>>> out Q-Dir and UltraExplorer, but that's not the question. I was
>>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>>> to get zip folders to display their contents in UltraExplorer (it
>>>>>>>>> won't do it, apparently) and noticed that *some* of my ZIP folders
>>>>>>>>> will display their contents in the right panel of Windows Explorer
>>>>>>>>> when I click to highlight them on the left side of the program, but
>>>>>>>>> other ZIP folders won't show their contents. It's been driving me
>>>>>>>>> nuts
>>>>>>>>> for the past hour, trying to figure out what is different
>>>>>>>>> between the
>>>>>>>>> ZIP archieves that display their contents, and the ZIP archives
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> don't show them. Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe the zip files that won't open need to be unblocked, if they
>>>>>>>> came
>>>>>>>> from another computer or the net.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I checked out their properties, and I did the unblocking thing on
>>>>>>> them. No difference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All of mine seem to open on the right side.
>>>>>> I've just tried a few zips to see if it was because
>>>>>> of a different account owner but there's no difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried every combination of things I could think of to get them to
>>>>> open -- no luck. They seem identical to the ones that open, as far as
>>>>> the properties go.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Al-
>>>>
>>>> If you like, can you upload one of the zips somewhere so I can have a
>>>> look at it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, but thanks, anyway.
>>>
>>> I spent all of yesterday trying different free file manager
>>> replacements, just to see if I could find one that did what I wanted.
>>> No luck. My findings, for anybody who is looking into alternative file
>>> managers, is that all of them have limitations.
>>>
>>> FreeCommander, which is pretty good, won't show a full directory tree
>>> structure -- it only displays one drive at a time, and it doesn't show
>>> the libraries. Some people may find the lack of the libraries in the
>>> file manager a good thing, though. Also, no launch bar.
>>>
>>> Cubic Explorer, which is fairly nice once you get it configured,
>>> doesn't have a launch bar, either, and won't show a split screen.
>>>
>>> Neither of these two gave much trouble, so anyone who wants an
>>> alternative to the Windows 7 File Explorer might want to try them.
>>> These are the two I left on my computer to play with.
>>>
>>> I also tried PowerDesk 5, my all-time favorite free file manager. It
>>> loads fine but once loaded, doesn't want to show itself when it is
>>> re-started, even when started in compatibility mode. Version six I
>>> haven't tried on this computer, but it's got an annoying nag screen,
>>> and my impression when I played with it a couple of years ago is that
>>> it is identical to version five apart from a bit of frosting.
>>>
>>> I also tried Explorer 2 Lite, UltraExplorer (which is a lot like Cubic
>>> Explorer), MuCommander, ExplorerXP, AccelMan (which like PowerDesk,
>>> installed fine but didn't want to open after installed), and three or
>>> four others such as that quad screen manager the name of which escapes
>>> me. None of them has the functionality of PowerDesk, which is what I'm
>>> looking for -- a program launch bar, the ability to ZIP and UnZIP
>>> files right in the file manager, the ability to peek into ZIP and RAR
>>> archives, and to drag and drop files out of ZIP and RAR archives, a
>>> two-pane function, a graphical preview function, a command line,
>>> customizable and moveable button bars.
>>>
>>> -Al-
>>>

 

[Al Smith]

Decrepit wrote:
> Al, try out Total Commander. I have used it for years (it used to be
> called Windows Commander), and I absolutely refuse to be without it.
>
> If I am not mistaken it can be run as shareware with only a little nag
> screen at startup where you have to click on a number. Don't know if
> it will run indefinitely in this mode, but do yourself a favour and
> check it out.
>

I found my file manager! After trying out about a dozen of them, I
found Explorer++ version 1.0.0.0, which is written for Windows 7
x64. It's a bit buggy at the moment, but it is exactly what I was
looking for. Maybe it's because I'm an old PowerDesk user -- in
the Explorer++ forums, I noticed that a couple of other former
PowerDesk users were raving about Explorer++. I hope the author
gets his bug fixes out soon, because I really, really like this
file manager.

-Al-

 

[Dave-UK]

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message news:eRx8n.63544$PH1.48095@edtnps82...
> Decrepit wrote:
>> Al, try out Total Commander. I have used it for years (it used to be
>> called Windows Commander), and I absolutely refuse to be without it.
>>
>> If I am not mistaken it can be run as shareware with only a little nag
>> screen at startup where you have to click on a number. Don't know if
>> it will run indefinitely in this mode, but do yourself a favour and
>> check it out.
>>
>
> I found my file manager! After trying out about a dozen of them, I
> found Explorer++ version 1.0.0.0, which is written for Windows 7
> x64. It's a bit buggy at the moment, but it is exactly what I was
> looking for. Maybe it's because I'm an old PowerDesk user -- in
> the Explorer++ forums, I noticed that a couple of other former
> PowerDesk users were raving about Explorer++. I hope the author
> gets his bug fixes out soon, because I really, really like this
> file manager.
>
> -Al-
>

I wonder why the author chose that file icon, it gets lost on my desktop amongst
all the other folders. I've changed mine to something more suitable!

 

[Al Smith]

Dave-UK wrote:
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:eRx8n.63544$PH1.48095@edtnps82...
>> Decrepit wrote:
>>> Al, try out Total Commander. I have used it for years (it used to be
>>> called Windows Commander), and I absolutely refuse to be without it.
>>>
>>> If I am not mistaken it can be run as shareware with only a little nag
>>> screen at startup where you have to click on a number. Don't know if
>>> it will run indefinitely in this mode, but do yourself a favour and
>>> check it out.
>>>
>>
>> I found my file manager! After trying out about a dozen of them, I
>> found Explorer++ version 1.0.0.0, which is written for Windows 7 x64.
>> It's a bit buggy at the moment, but it is exactly what I was looking
>> for. Maybe it's because I'm an old PowerDesk user -- in the Explorer++
>> forums, I noticed that a couple of other former PowerDesk users were
>> raving about Explorer++. I hope the author gets his bug fixes out
>> soon, because I really, really like this file manager.
>>
>> -Al-
>>
>
> I wonder why the author chose that file icon, it gets lost on my desktop
> amongst
> all the other folders. I've changed mine to something more suitable!
>
>

I thought the same thing. It's like a slight variation on the
Windows Explorer icon. Needs more pizazz.

-Al-

 

[Stubbo of Oz]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:264 GMT, Al Smith <invalid@address.com>
wrote:

>Decrepit wrote:
>> Al, try out Total Commander. I have used it for years (it used to be
>> called Windows Commander), and I absolutely refuse to be without it.
>>
>> If I am not mistaken it can be run as shareware with only a little nag
>> screen at startup where you have to click on a number. Don't know if
>> it will run indefinitely in this mode, but do yourself a favour and
>> check it out.
>>
>
>I found my file manager! After trying out about a dozen of them, I
>found Explorer++ version 1.0.0.0,
> Snip ....................

I can't see any way to get two directories displayed in side by sdie
in dual panes as Free Commander does. Is this possible? If not, it is
not for me

--
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Stubbo of Oz
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