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Windows 7 and Actonis True Iamge

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Ron Hirsch

Flightless Bird
I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win 7
group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.

I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and am
currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails, or
has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.

From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror stories
about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.

Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if it is a
problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out there? Since I
hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.

I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right in.
But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD create" utility
to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS on the
system hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD failure.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Ron Hirsch
 
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Tom Willett

Flightless Bird
Windows 7 forums
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/w7itpro/

"Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> wrote in message
news:-OW00PzukKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
:I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win 7
: group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
:
: I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
: bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and
am
: currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
: occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails,
or
: has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.
:
: From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
: version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror
stories
: about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
: compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.
:
: Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if it is
a
: problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out there? Since
I
: hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
:
: I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right in.
: But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD create"
utility
: to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS on the
: system hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD failure.
:
: Any feedback would be appreciated.
:
: Ron Hirsch
:
:
 
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Daave

Flightless Bird
Ron Hirsch wrote:
> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is
> Win 7 group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.


There is one non-Microsoft-sanctioned newsgroup for Windows 7 called:

alt.windows7.general

I know of at least two free news servers that carry it:

http://news.aioe.org/

and

http://www.eternal-september.org/

For a quick peak, there is one clunky Web interface to it so far:

http://www.w7forums.com/alt-windows7-general-f28.html

If you are looking for Microsoft-sanctioned Web forums, you may find
them here:

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/w7itpro
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

Flightless Bird
"Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> said this in news item
news:-OW00PzukKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win
> 7 group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
>
> I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
> bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and
> am currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
> occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails,
> or has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.
>
> From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
> version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror
> stories about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
> compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.
>
> Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if it is
> a problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out there?
> Since I hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
>
> I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right in.
> But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD create"
> utility to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS
> on the system hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD
> failure.
>
> Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
> Ron Hirsch


The latest version of TrueImage is certified for Windows 7 but DiskDirector
isn't. You can take this as a sign that the Acronis people will release
their software only when it's fit for the purpose. Check the Acronis FAQs
for further details - there are several pages of them.
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
I don't see a men's clothing store around here so I'll ask the clerk at the
corner convenience store to help me choose a new tuxedo...

Ron Hirsch wrote:
> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here...
 
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Doum

Flightless Bird
"Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> écrivait
news:-OW00PzukKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is
> Win 7 group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
>
> I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro
> 64 bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version
> 8, and am currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt
> on many occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system
> drive fails, or has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the
> day.
>
> From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is
> apparently version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot
> of horror stories about people having very serious problems in Win 7
> 64 bit. The MS compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit
> though.
>
> Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if
> it is a problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out
> there? Since I hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
>
> I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right
> in. But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD
> create" utility to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when
> the Windows OS on the system hard drive is not functioning due to a
> corruption or HD failure.
>
> Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
> Ron Hirsch
>
>


The Windows 7 "Backup & Restore" utility allows you to "image" your system
on external devices, do regular scheduled backups and create a bootable
"Repair CD" that gives you access to the system image for restoration. It
works, I have tested it.

HTH
 
S

shellyfdelete@hotmail.com

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:42:28 -0800, Doum <me@domain.net> wrote:

>"Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> écrivait
>news:-OW00PzukKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>
>> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is
>> Win 7 group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
>>
>> I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro
>> 64 bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version
>> 8, and am currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt
>> on many occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system
>> drive fails, or has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the
>> day.
>>
>> From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is
>> apparently version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot
>> of horror stories about people having very serious problems in Win 7
>> 64 bit. The MS compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit
>> though.
>>
>> Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if
>> it is a problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out
>> there? Since I hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
>>
>> I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right
>> in. But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD
>> create" utility to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when
>> the Windows OS on the system hard drive is not functioning due to a
>> corruption or HD failure.
>>
>> Any feedback would be appreciated.
>>
>> Ron Hirsch
>>
>>

>
>The Windows 7 "Backup & Restore" utility allows you to "image" your system
>on external devices, do regular scheduled backups and create a bootable
>"Repair CD" that gives you access to the system image for restoration. It
>works, I have tested it.
>
>HTH

does all of y'alls installed programs work after restoring the image?
The faq's say that the backup program does not image the program
registry keys...just asking...
 
S

shellyfdelete@hotmail.com

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:35:21 -0500, "Ron Hirsch"
<ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> wrote:

>I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win 7
>group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
>
>I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
>bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and am
>currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
>occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails, or
>has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.
>
>From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
>version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror stories
>about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
>compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.
>
>Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if it is a
>problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out there? Since I
>hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
>
>I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right in.
>But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD create" utility
>to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS on the
>system hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD failure.
>
>Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
>Ron Hirsch

Take a look at the Casper backup program
>
 
J

Jim Rusling

Flightless Bird
"Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> wrote:

>I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win 7
>group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
>
>I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
>bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and am
>currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
>occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails, or
>has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.
>
>From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
>version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror stories
>about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
>compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.
>

I have Windows 7/32 and I am still running version 11 without any
problems, but Windows 7/64 may very well have problems.
--
Jim Rusling
More or Less Retired
Mustang, OK
http://www.rusling.org
 
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Doum

Flightless Bird
shellyfdelete@hotmail.com écrivait
news:fs5nk5tha9s09aohf3heibrmg1qcg3nfg8@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:42:28 -0800, Doum <me@domain.net> wrote:
>
>>"Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> écrivait
>>news:-OW00PzukKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there
>>> is Win 7 group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
>>>
>>> I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7
>>> Pro 64 bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since
>>> version 8, and am currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved
>>> my butt on many occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when
>>> a system drive fails, or has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always
>>> saves the day.
>>>
>>> From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is
>>> apparently version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a
>>> lot of horror stories about people having very serious problems in
>>> Win 7 64 bit. The MS compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in
>>> Win7 64 bit though.
>>>
>>> Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if
>>> it is a problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out
>>> there? Since I hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
>>>
>>> I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built
>>> right in. But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a
>>> "CD create" utility to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD,
>>> when the Windows OS on the system hard drive is not functioning due
>>> to a corruption or HD failure.
>>>
>>> Any feedback would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Ron Hirsch
>>>
>>>

>>
>>The Windows 7 "Backup & Restore" utility allows you to "image" your
>>system on external devices, do regular scheduled backups and create a
>>bootable "Repair CD" that gives you access to the system image for
>>restoration. It works, I have tested it.
>>
>>HTH

> does all of y'alls installed programs work after restoring the image?
> The faq's say that the backup program does not image the program
> registry keys...just asking...


Yes, the programs work. I was not up to date on my backups so I've just
created an image of my laptop system drive (C:) and to test it, I booted
from the repair CD I made in november, it found the image on my external
hard disk and I restored it; I was ready to start all over but I was
confident it would work.

It restored correctly and the laptop is just like it was before I created
the image.

I must add that I use some multimedia programs from Sony that require
online activation and they are still working after the restoration
without the need to reactivate.

The "Backup & Restore" utility does not compress the image like Acronis
or Ghost do though; but with the size and price of today's hard disk, I
think it's irrelevant.

HTH
 
A

Anteaus

Flightless Bird
I've found that Drive Image XML works with Win7/32. Main limitation is that
you need a PE bootable to do the restore, hence you need to copy the backup
to a second HD partition, or else use two optical drives.

Though, exactly why Microsoft have to keep-on creating scenarios like this
with every new OS release, I do not understand. Being able to backup is the
most fundamental requirement for any computer system, yet it seems like the
coders have a perverse wish to make this task as difficult and as slipshod as
it can possibly be made.

"Ron Hirsch" wrote:

> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win 7
> group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
>
> I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
> bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and am
> currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
> occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails, or
> has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.
>
> From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
> version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror stories
> about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
> compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.
>
> Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if it is a
> problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out there? Since I
> hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
>
> I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right in.
> But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD create" utility
> to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS on the
> system hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD failure.
>
> Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
> Ron Hirsch
>
>
> .
>
 
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Ron Hirsch

Flightless Bird
Was it really necessary to post your sarcastic reply?



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ebKXC5vkKHA.5568@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I don't see a men's clothing store around here so I'll ask the clerk at the
>corner convenience store to help me choose a new tuxedo...
>
> Ron Hirsch wrote:
>> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here...

>
 
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Ron Hirsch

Flightless Bird
Thanks to all of you who offered info.

I did manage to get a tech response from Acronis, and they assured me that
TI 2010 supports Win 7 - all versions, including 64 bit.

Ron Hirsch

+++++++++++++++++++++++

"Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> wrote in message
news:-OW00PzukKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win 7
>group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
>
> I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
> bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and
> am currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
> occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails,
> or has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.
>
> From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
> version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror
> stories about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
> compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.
>
> Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if it is
> a problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out there?
> Since I hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
>
> I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right in.
> But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD create"
> utility to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS
> on the system hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD
> failure.
>
> Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
> Ron Hirsch
>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
I got off on it.

Ron Hirsch wrote:
> Was it really necessary to post your sarcastic reply?
>
>> I don't see a men's clothing store around here so I'll ask the clerk at
>> the
>> corner convenience store to help me choose a new tuxedo...
>>
>>> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here...
 
T

thanatoid

Flightless Bird
=?Utf-8?B?QW50ZWF1cw==?= <Anteaus@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in
news:14785CB5-5E1D-436C-8CFD-9195EC161243@microsoft.com:

> I've found that Drive Image XML works with Win7/32. Main
> limitation is that you need a PE bootable to do the
> restore, hence you need to copy the backup to a second HD
> partition, or else use two optical drives.


The bootable disc stuff should stay in memory and then you
should be able to put in the other disk. That's what I can do in
such situations. If you can't -p did you read the manual - then
it's lousy software.

There ARE a few valid reasons for having two optical drives, but
THIS is not a valid reason.

> Though, exactly why Microsoft have to keep-on creating
> scenarios like this with every new OS release, I do not
> understand.


Because they are user-unfriendly and demented. You didn't know
that? Why can't I print a directory's contents from Windows
after it's been out for almost 20 years? (JUST Windows, I know
you can us a DOS command and there are many 3rd party programs
that let you do it. But it is a BASIC. Alas, not AFA MS is
concerned. Etc., etc., etc.

> Being able to backup is the most fundamental
> requirement for any computer system, yet it seems like the
> coders have a perverse wish to make this task as difficult
> and as slipshod as it can possibly be made.


See above.

> "Ron Hirsch" wrote:
>
>> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here.
>> If there is Win 7 group, please advise the "name" so that
>> I can locate it.


alt.windows7.general and 2 Italian groups if you speak that
language.

>> I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use
>> Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis
>> True Image since version 8, and am currently using version
>> 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many occasions. I
>> image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive
>> fails, or has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves
>> the day.


I got a free copy of ATI Deluxe on a disc in a UK computer
magazine in 2002 and it has been a godsend. I have NOT upgraded
since it works perfectly - the only quirk I have discovered is
that if you add anew graphics card or something, you have to
start from scratch - it will get confused by new hardware
configuration and hang. Once you know it it's not a problem. It
MAY have been addressed in later versions, but I have read a LOT
of horror stories about those later versions. The 2002 version
does everything I can imagine anyone needing to do - and it's 30
times smaller than the latest versions, not to mention it was
FREE!

>> From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010
>> (which is apparently version 12) to use it in Win 7 64
>> bit. But I've seen a lot of horror stories about people
>> having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
>> compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit
>> though.


>> Does anyone here have any experience/info on this
>> situation. And, if it is a problem in Win 7 64, are there
>> any good similar programs out there? Since I hate
>> Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.


Hee hee.

>> I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility
>> built right in. But it seems to be pretty barebones. And
>> TI does offer a "CD create" utility to boot up the system.
>> and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS on the system
>> hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD
>> failure.


The Windows attempts at "restore" utilities are a sad joke.

>> Any feedback would be appreciated.


I know people hate when I ask stuff like this, but just because
64bit is available, do you have to have it? WHAT exactly will it
allow you to do that you could not do on a 32bit machine?

I am doing this and everything else in Win98SELite and there is
NOTHING I can not do except use some latest hardware which has
no drivers for 9x. But I only have ONE of those, and I have
installed XP on another partition just for that. Once I'm done,
XP will disappear from my computer, too.

If you insist on 64bit, http://freeware.intrastar.net has at
least 3 freeware programs listed on its utilities page, xxcopy
being one, easeus is another, I forget the 3rd...

Whether they will work with a 64 bit machine is questionable,
but you can look - there are other imaging programs.

--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
the quote. But it's true.)
 
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