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Windows 7 and Actonis True Iamge

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Ron Hirsch, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. Ron Hirsch

    Ron Hirsch Flightless Bird

    I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win 7
    group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.

    I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
    bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and am
    currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
    occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails, or
    has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.

    From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
    version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror stories
    about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
    compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.

    Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if it is a
    problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out there? Since I
    hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.

    I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right in.
    But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD create" utility
    to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS on the
    system hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD failure.

    Any feedback would be appreciated.

    Ron Hirsch
     
  2. Tom Willett

    Tom Willett Flightless Bird

    Windows 7 forums
    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/w7itpro/

    "Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> wrote in message
    news:-OW00PzukKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    :I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win 7
    : group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
    :
    : I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
    : bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and
    am
    : currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
    : occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails,
    or
    : has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.
    :
    : From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
    : version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror
    stories
    : about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
    : compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.
    :
    : Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if it is
    a
    : problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out there? Since
    I
    : hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
    :
    : I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right in.
    : But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD create"
    utility
    : to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS on the
    : system hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD failure.
    :
    : Any feedback would be appreciated.
    :
    : Ron Hirsch
    :
    :
     
  3. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    Ron Hirsch wrote:
    > I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is
    > Win 7 group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.


    There is one non-Microsoft-sanctioned newsgroup for Windows 7 called:

    alt.windows7.general

    I know of at least two free news servers that carry it:

    http://news.aioe.org/

    and

    http://www.eternal-september.org/

    For a quick peak, there is one clunky Web interface to it so far:

    http://www.w7forums.com/alt-windows7-general-f28.html

    If you are looking for Microsoft-sanctioned Web forums, you may find
    them here:

    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/w7itpro
     
  4. Pegasus [MVP]

    Pegasus [MVP] Flightless Bird

    "Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> said this in news item
    news:-OW00PzukKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win
    > 7 group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
    >
    > I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
    > bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and
    > am currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
    > occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails,
    > or has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.
    >
    > From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
    > version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror
    > stories about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
    > compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.
    >
    > Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if it is
    > a problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out there?
    > Since I hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
    >
    > I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right in.
    > But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD create"
    > utility to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS
    > on the system hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD
    > failure.
    >
    > Any feedback would be appreciated.
    >
    > Ron Hirsch


    The latest version of TrueImage is certified for Windows 7 but DiskDirector
    isn't. You can take this as a sign that the Acronis people will release
    their software only when it's fit for the purpose. Check the Acronis FAQs
    for further details - there are several pages of them.
     
  5. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    I don't see a men's clothing store around here so I'll ask the clerk at the
    corner convenience store to help me choose a new tuxedo...

    Ron Hirsch wrote:
    > I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here...
     
  6. Doum

    Doum Flightless Bird

    "Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> écrivait
    news:-OW00PzukKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

    > I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is
    > Win 7 group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
    >
    > I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro
    > 64 bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version
    > 8, and am currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt
    > on many occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system
    > drive fails, or has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the
    > day.
    >
    > From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is
    > apparently version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot
    > of horror stories about people having very serious problems in Win 7
    > 64 bit. The MS compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit
    > though.
    >
    > Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if
    > it is a problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out
    > there? Since I hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
    >
    > I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right
    > in. But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD
    > create" utility to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when
    > the Windows OS on the system hard drive is not functioning due to a
    > corruption or HD failure.
    >
    > Any feedback would be appreciated.
    >
    > Ron Hirsch
    >
    >


    The Windows 7 "Backup & Restore" utility allows you to "image" your system
    on external devices, do regular scheduled backups and create a bootable
    "Repair CD" that gives you access to the system image for restoration. It
    works, I have tested it.

    HTH
     
  7. shellyfdelete@hotmail.com

    shellyfdelete@hotmail.com Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:42:28 -0800, Doum <me@domain.net> wrote:

    >"Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> écrivait
    >news:-OW00PzukKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
    >
    >> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is
    >> Win 7 group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
    >>
    >> I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro
    >> 64 bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version
    >> 8, and am currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt
    >> on many occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system
    >> drive fails, or has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the
    >> day.
    >>
    >> From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is
    >> apparently version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot
    >> of horror stories about people having very serious problems in Win 7
    >> 64 bit. The MS compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit
    >> though.
    >>
    >> Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if
    >> it is a problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out
    >> there? Since I hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
    >>
    >> I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right
    >> in. But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD
    >> create" utility to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when
    >> the Windows OS on the system hard drive is not functioning due to a
    >> corruption or HD failure.
    >>
    >> Any feedback would be appreciated.
    >>
    >> Ron Hirsch
    >>
    >>

    >
    >The Windows 7 "Backup & Restore" utility allows you to "image" your system
    >on external devices, do regular scheduled backups and create a bootable
    >"Repair CD" that gives you access to the system image for restoration. It
    >works, I have tested it.
    >
    >HTH

    does all of y'alls installed programs work after restoring the image?
    The faq's say that the backup program does not image the program
    registry keys...just asking...
     
  8. shellyfdelete@hotmail.com

    shellyfdelete@hotmail.com Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:35:21 -0500, "Ron Hirsch"
    <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> wrote:

    >I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win 7
    >group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
    >
    >I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
    >bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and am
    >currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
    >occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails, or
    >has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.
    >
    >From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
    >version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror stories
    >about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
    >compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.
    >
    >Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if it is a
    >problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out there? Since I
    >hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
    >
    >I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right in.
    >But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD create" utility
    >to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS on the
    >system hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD failure.
    >
    >Any feedback would be appreciated.
    >
    >Ron Hirsch

    Take a look at the Casper backup program
    >
     
  9. Jim Rusling

    Jim Rusling Flightless Bird

    "Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> wrote:

    >I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win 7
    >group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
    >
    >I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
    >bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and am
    >currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
    >occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails, or
    >has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.
    >
    >From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
    >version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror stories
    >about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
    >compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.
    >

    I have Windows 7/32 and I am still running version 11 without any
    problems, but Windows 7/64 may very well have problems.
    --
    Jim Rusling
    More or Less Retired
    Mustang, OK
    http://www.rusling.org
     
  10. Doum

    Doum Flightless Bird

    shellyfdelete@hotmail.com écrivait
    news:fs5nk5tha9s09aohf3heibrmg1qcg3nfg8@4ax.com:

    > On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:42:28 -0800, Doum <me@domain.net> wrote:
    >
    >>"Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> écrivait
    >>news:-OW00PzukKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
    >>
    >>> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there
    >>> is Win 7 group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
    >>>
    >>> I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7
    >>> Pro 64 bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since
    >>> version 8, and am currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved
    >>> my butt on many occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when
    >>> a system drive fails, or has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always
    >>> saves the day.
    >>>
    >>> From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is
    >>> apparently version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a
    >>> lot of horror stories about people having very serious problems in
    >>> Win 7 64 bit. The MS compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in
    >>> Win7 64 bit though.
    >>>
    >>> Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if
    >>> it is a problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out
    >>> there? Since I hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
    >>>
    >>> I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built
    >>> right in. But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a
    >>> "CD create" utility to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD,
    >>> when the Windows OS on the system hard drive is not functioning due
    >>> to a corruption or HD failure.
    >>>
    >>> Any feedback would be appreciated.
    >>>
    >>> Ron Hirsch
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>The Windows 7 "Backup & Restore" utility allows you to "image" your
    >>system on external devices, do regular scheduled backups and create a
    >>bootable "Repair CD" that gives you access to the system image for
    >>restoration. It works, I have tested it.
    >>
    >>HTH

    > does all of y'alls installed programs work after restoring the image?
    > The faq's say that the backup program does not image the program
    > registry keys...just asking...


    Yes, the programs work. I was not up to date on my backups so I've just
    created an image of my laptop system drive (C:) and to test it, I booted
    from the repair CD I made in november, it found the image on my external
    hard disk and I restored it; I was ready to start all over but I was
    confident it would work.

    It restored correctly and the laptop is just like it was before I created
    the image.

    I must add that I use some multimedia programs from Sony that require
    online activation and they are still working after the restoration
    without the need to reactivate.

    The "Backup & Restore" utility does not compress the image like Acronis
    or Ghost do though; but with the size and price of today's hard disk, I
    think it's irrelevant.

    HTH
     
  11. Anteaus

    Anteaus Flightless Bird

    I've found that Drive Image XML works with Win7/32. Main limitation is that
    you need a PE bootable to do the restore, hence you need to copy the backup
    to a second HD partition, or else use two optical drives.

    Though, exactly why Microsoft have to keep-on creating scenarios like this
    with every new OS release, I do not understand. Being able to backup is the
    most fundamental requirement for any computer system, yet it seems like the
    coders have a perverse wish to make this task as difficult and as slipshod as
    it can possibly be made.

    "Ron Hirsch" wrote:

    > I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win 7
    > group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
    >
    > I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
    > bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and am
    > currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
    > occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails, or
    > has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.
    >
    > From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
    > version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror stories
    > about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
    > compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.
    >
    > Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if it is a
    > problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out there? Since I
    > hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
    >
    > I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right in.
    > But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD create" utility
    > to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS on the
    > system hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD failure.
    >
    > Any feedback would be appreciated.
    >
    > Ron Hirsch
    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  12. Ron Hirsch

    Ron Hirsch Flightless Bird

    Was it really necessary to post your sarcastic reply?



    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:ebKXC5vkKHA.5568@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >I don't see a men's clothing store around here so I'll ask the clerk at the
    >corner convenience store to help me choose a new tuxedo...
    >
    > Ron Hirsch wrote:
    >> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here...

    >
     
  13. Ron Hirsch

    Ron Hirsch Flightless Bird

    Thanks to all of you who offered info.

    I did manage to get a tech response from Acronis, and they assured me that
    TI 2010 supports Win 7 - all versions, including 64 bit.

    Ron Hirsch

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    "Ron Hirsch" <ronhirsch2178@nospamadelphia.net> wrote in message
    news:-OW00PzukKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here. If there is Win 7
    >group, please advise the "name" so that I can locate it.
    >
    > I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use Windows 7 Pro 64
    > bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis True Image since version 8, and
    > am currently using version 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many
    > occasions. I image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive fails,
    > or has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves the day.
    >
    > From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010 (which is apparently
    > version 12) to use it in Win 7 64 bit. But I've seen a lot of horror
    > stories about people having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
    > compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit though.
    >
    > Does anyone here have any experience/info on this situation. And, if it is
    > a problem in Win 7 64, are there any good similar programs out there?
    > Since I hate Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.
    >
    > I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility built right in.
    > But it seems to be pretty barebones. And TI does offer a "CD create"
    > utility to boot up the system. and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS
    > on the system hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD
    > failure.
    >
    > Any feedback would be appreciated.
    >
    > Ron Hirsch
    >
     
  14. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    I got off on it.

    Ron Hirsch wrote:
    > Was it really necessary to post your sarcastic reply?
    >
    >> I don't see a men's clothing store around here so I'll ask the clerk at
    >> the
    >> corner convenience store to help me choose a new tuxedo...
    >>
    >>> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here...
     
  15. thanatoid

    thanatoid Flightless Bird

    =?Utf-8?B?QW50ZWF1cw==?= <Anteaus@discussions.microsoft.com>
    wrote in
    news:14785CB5-5E1D-436C-8CFD-9195EC161243@microsoft.com:

    > I've found that Drive Image XML works with Win7/32. Main
    > limitation is that you need a PE bootable to do the
    > restore, hence you need to copy the backup to a second HD
    > partition, or else use two optical drives.


    The bootable disc stuff should stay in memory and then you
    should be able to put in the other disk. That's what I can do in
    such situations. If you can't -p did you read the manual - then
    it's lousy software.

    There ARE a few valid reasons for having two optical drives, but
    THIS is not a valid reason.

    > Though, exactly why Microsoft have to keep-on creating
    > scenarios like this with every new OS release, I do not
    > understand.


    Because they are user-unfriendly and demented. You didn't know
    that? Why can't I print a directory's contents from Windows
    after it's been out for almost 20 years? (JUST Windows, I know
    you can us a DOS command and there are many 3rd party programs
    that let you do it. But it is a BASIC. Alas, not AFA MS is
    concerned. Etc., etc., etc.

    > Being able to backup is the most fundamental
    > requirement for any computer system, yet it seems like the
    > coders have a perverse wish to make this task as difficult
    > and as slipshod as it can possibly be made.


    See above.

    > "Ron Hirsch" wrote:
    >
    >> I see no newsgroup for Windows 7, so I'll post this here.
    >> If there is Win 7 group, please advise the "name" so that
    >> I can locate it.


    alt.windows7.general and 2 Italian groups if you speak that
    language.

    >> I'm starting the build of my new machine, which will use
    >> Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. I've been a long time fan of Acronis
    >> True Image since version 8, and am currently using version
    >> 11 in XP. And it has saved my butt on many occasions. I
    >> image my system drive weekly, and when a system drive
    >> fails, or has some "tragic event", Acronis TI always saves
    >> the day.


    I got a free copy of ATI Deluxe on a disc in a UK computer
    magazine in 2002 and it has been a godsend. I have NOT upgraded
    since it works perfectly - the only quirk I have discovered is
    that if you add anew graphics card or something, you have to
    start from scratch - it will get confused by new hardware
    configuration and hang. Once you know it it's not a problem. It
    MAY have been addressed in later versions, but I have read a LOT
    of horror stories about those later versions. The 2002 version
    does everything I can imagine anyone needing to do - and it's 30
    times smaller than the latest versions, not to mention it was
    FREE!

    >> From what I see, I'll have to upgrade to version 2010
    >> (which is apparently version 12) to use it in Win 7 64
    >> bit. But I've seen a lot of horror stories about people
    >> having very serious problems in Win 7 64 bit. The MS
    >> compatibility page shows it to be "fine" in Win7 64 bit
    >> though.


    >> Does anyone here have any experience/info on this
    >> situation. And, if it is a problem in Win 7 64, are there
    >> any good similar programs out there? Since I hate
    >> Symantec, I won't go with their Ghost software.


    Hee hee.

    >> I do know that Windows 7 has a "Backup & Restore" utility
    >> built right in. But it seems to be pretty barebones. And
    >> TI does offer a "CD create" utility to boot up the system.
    >> and run TI from the CD, when the Windows OS on the system
    >> hard drive is not functioning due to a corruption or HD
    >> failure.


    The Windows attempts at "restore" utilities are a sad joke.

    >> Any feedback would be appreciated.


    I know people hate when I ask stuff like this, but just because
    64bit is available, do you have to have it? WHAT exactly will it
    allow you to do that you could not do on a 32bit machine?

    I am doing this and everything else in Win98SELite and there is
    NOTHING I can not do except use some latest hardware which has
    no drivers for 9x. But I only have ONE of those, and I have
    installed XP on another partition just for that. Once I'm done,
    XP will disappear from my computer, too.

    If you insist on 64bit, http://freeware.intrastar.net has at
    least 3 freeware programs listed on its utilities page, xxcopy
    being one, easeus is another, I forget the 3rd...

    Whether they will work with a 64 bit machine is questionable,
    but you can look - there are other imaging programs.

    --
    There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
    and those that will break later.
    - Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
    not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
    the quote. But it's true.)
     

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