Win7 won't write to floppy drive - XP will

[Lord Vetinari]

"Zootal" <nospam@spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> Floppy works fine here, but I'm using a USB drive, not an internal
>> drive.
>>
>> To tell the truth, I didn't know computers had floppy controllers any
>> more
>>
>> Maybe you can solve the USB stick problem...I can't, sorry.
>>
>
> I haven't yet had a board that didn't have a floppy controller - I'm sure
> they are there, but all of mine have them. Booting from a USB stick is not
> as realiable as booting from a floppy - ie. booting from a floppy always
> works. I have one board that won't boot from a USB stick if IDE0 is
> connected. I have another that only works if the USB stick is in a certain
> port. It's kinda like plug and pray...um...plug and play - it mostly works
> but is still quirky.
>
> I'm getting the idea that this is not a common problem - lucky me! I just
> boot to XP to do the floppy writes I needed - I just needed to make some
> partition magic boot disks. Boot to XP, run the PM floppy disk maker,
> reboot back to Win7, end of story. Six months from now I'll try to write
> something to a floppy disk and then remember, oh yeah, can't do that from
> Win7...<gg>...

Me, I just boot into Ubuntu, if I need to mess with partitions. Win7
doesn't do much with the Linux partitions....

 

[Lord Vetinari]

"Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 1/26/10, Zootal posted:
>>> Floppy works fine here, but I'm using a USB drive, not an internal
>>> drive.
>>>
>>> To tell the truth, I didn't know computers had floppy controllers any
>>> more
>>>
>>> Maybe you can solve the USB stick problem...I can't, sorry.
>>>
>
>> I haven't yet had a board that didn't have a floppy controller - I'm sure
>> they are there, but all of mine have them. Booting from a USB stick is
>> not as realiable as booting from a floppy - ie. booting from a floppy
>> always works. I have one board that won't boot from a USB stick if IDE0
>> is connected. I have another that only works if the USB stick is in a
>> certain port. It's kinda like plug and pray...um...plug and play - it
>> mostly works but is still quirky.
>
>> I'm getting the idea that this is not a common problem - lucky me! I just
>> boot to XP to do the floppy writes I needed - I just needed to make some
>> partition magic boot disks. Boot to XP, run the PM floppy disk maker,
>> reboot back to Win7, end of story. Six months from now I'll try to write
>> something to a floppy disk and then remember, oh yeah, can't do that from
>> Win7...<gg>...
>
> Sort of "are we having fun yet?".

Oh dear. You've just called him a pinhead. Hehheh. You _do_ know where
that phrase comes from, don't you?

 

[johnbee]

In Windows 7, there is a uniquely new feature, well it is to me anyway.

The administrator can hide drives so that the silly users do not write to
them. I think the users have to be in a group because it is one of the
options in group policy.

So it might be a good idea to check that this feature has not
inadvertently/deliberately been set. Ahem. For those who want the full
explanation about what to do if that feature has been set, then try to unset
it unset it.

 

[Philo F. Shagnasty]

"Lord Vetinari" <ghod@att.net> wrote in message
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> "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hjr8ds$cnn$1@news.albasani.net...
>> On 1/26/10, Zootal posted:
>>>> Floppy works fine here, but I'm using a USB drive, not an internal
>>>> drive.
>>>>
>>>> To tell the truth, I didn't know computers had floppy controllers any
>>>> more
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you can solve the USB stick problem...I can't, sorry.
>>>>
>>
>>> I haven't yet had a board that didn't have a floppy controller - I'm
>>> sure they are there, but all of mine have them. Booting from a USB stick
>>> is not as realiable as booting from a floppy - ie. booting from a floppy
>>> always works. I have one board that won't boot from a USB stick if IDE0
>>> is connected. I have another that only works if the USB stick is in a
>>> certain port. It's kinda like plug and pray...um...plug and play - it
>>> mostly works but is still quirky.
>>
>>> I'm getting the idea that this is not a common problem - lucky me! I
>>> just boot to XP to do the floppy writes I needed - I just needed to make
>>> some partition magic boot disks. Boot to XP, run the PM floppy disk
>>> maker, reboot back to Win7, end of story. Six months from now I'll try
>>> to write something to a floppy disk and then remember, oh yeah, can't do
>>> that from Win7...<gg>...
>>
>> Sort of "are we having fun yet?".
>
> Oh dear. You've just called him a pinhead. Hehheh. You _do_ know where
> that phrase comes from, don't you?

Yea. Idiots who use Ubuntu are pinheads.

Look it up.

>

 

[Canuck57]

On 26/01/2010 4:53 PM, Zootal wrote:
> "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:uKK7n.20611
> $mT7.17867@newsfe05.iad:
>
>> Zootal wrote:
>>> Here is a bit of an off the wall problem. When running Win7, I can
>>> neither format nor write to a disk in the floppy drive. Boot to XP,
>>> and it works fine. Are there known issues with Windoes 7 writing to
>>> floppy drives?
>>
>> For the first time in my computer life I don't have a floppy drive, but
>> I know they work on Win7. I suggest you open Device Manager on the
>> Control Panel and check out Floppy Drive Controllers. Maybe that will
>> shed some light on why yours doesn't work.
>>
>
> I'm building a spare box and it had neither floppy nor CD. But for some
> reason, it won't boot from a USB stick if the HD is connected no matter how
> I set the bios. Pull the IDE cable, it boots from the USB stick quite
> nicely - which doesn't do me any good because I need the drive there after
> I boot. So I had to stick a floppy drive in it. I've got 4 or 5 of them
> sitting on a shelf in my office, but unfortunately we haven't yet reached
> the point where we can get rid of them for good
>
> I looked at device manager, and it was happy as can be. There is nothing in
> any of the event logs. This is actually the first time I tried to use the
> floppy drive with Win7, it's not something I do often. Once I'm done
> setting a system up, I seldom use the floppy. It also reads just fine, it
> just won't write without corrupting the disk.

Probably some old DOS 2.x format.

Reformat the disks.

But in todays day and age, why would you want to write data to a floppy
for is beyond me. Use a USB or CD or DVD...

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 1/28/10, Lord Vetinari posted:
> "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hjr8ds$cnn$1@news.albasani.net...
>> On 1/26/10, Zootal posted:
>>>> Floppy works fine here, but I'm using a USB drive, not an internal drive.
>>>>
>>>> To tell the truth, I didn't know computers had floppy controllers any
>>>> more
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you can solve the USB stick problem...I can't, sorry.
>>>>
>>
>>> I haven't yet had a board that didn't have a floppy controller - I'm sure
>>> they are there, but all of mine have them. Booting from a USB stick is not
>>> as realiable as booting from a floppy - ie. booting from a floppy always
>>> works. I have one board that won't boot from a USB stick if IDE0 is
>>> connected. I have another that only works if the USB stick is in a certain
>>> port. It's kinda like plug and pray...um...plug and play - it mostly works
>>> but is still quirky.
>>
>>> I'm getting the idea that this is not a common problem - lucky me! I just
>>> boot to XP to do the floppy writes I needed - I just needed to make some
>>> partition magic boot disks. Boot to XP, run the PM floppy disk maker,
>>> reboot back to Win7, end of story. Six months from now I'll try to write
>>> something to a floppy disk and then remember, oh yeah, can't do that from
>>> Win7...<gg>...
>>
>> Sort of "are we having fun yet?".

> Oh dear. You've just called him a pinhead. Hehheh. You _do_ know where
> that phrase comes from, don't you?

Hmm. I guess I was late to the Zippy train. I had no idea that it
started with him.

The Wikipedia article was informative - thanks for the cue

I read Zippy on line, but I don't recall quite when I started. Maybe 12
years ago - or 6, or 18. Take your pick

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com

 

[Zootal]

> Probably some old DOS 2.x format.
>
> Reformat the disks.
>
> But in todays day and age, why would you want to write data to a
> floppy for is beyond me. Use a USB or CD or DVD...

It's not the disks. They work if I boot to XP on the same box.

The particular computer I'm working with won't boot from a USB stick when
ide0 is connected, and doesn't have a cd/dvd drive, which is why I needed
the floppy to boot from. As I mentioned in another post - a computer will
always boot from a floppy, whereas booting from a usb stick isn't always
reliable. That is why I still put floppy drives in my computers. I only
need them once every couple of months, but they still serve a purpose, and
with the exception of the current win7 problem, they always work

I solved the USB booting problem by using the plop boot loader. Boot to
plop and then choose what you want to boot, including USB sticks. Now I can
boot from my USB stick, no matter how the BIOS is set.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

"Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
news:hjtg8o$cb6$1@news.albasani.net...
> On 1/28/10, Lord Vetinari posted:
>> "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:hjr8ds$cnn$1@news.albasani.net...
>>> On 1/26/10, Zootal posted:
>>>>> Floppy works fine here, but I'm using a USB drive, not an internal
>>>>> drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> To tell the truth, I didn't know computers had floppy controllers any
>>>>> more
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you can solve the USB stick problem...I can't, sorry.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> I haven't yet had a board that didn't have a floppy controller - I'm
>>>> sure they are there, but all of mine have them. Booting from a USB
>>>> stick is not as realiable as booting from a floppy - ie. booting from a
>>>> floppy always works. I have one board that won't boot from a USB stick
>>>> if IDE0 is connected. I have another that only works if the USB stick
>>>> is in a certain port. It's kinda like plug and pray...um...plug and
>>>> play - it mostly works but is still quirky.
>>>
>>>> I'm getting the idea that this is not a common problem - lucky me! I
>>>> just boot to XP to do the floppy writes I needed - I just needed to
>>>> make some partition magic boot disks. Boot to XP, run the PM floppy
>>>> disk maker, reboot back to Win7, end of story. Six months from now I'll
>>>> try to write something to a floppy disk and then remember, oh yeah,
>>>> can't do that from Win7...<gg>...
>>>
>>> Sort of "are we having fun yet?".
>
>> Oh dear. You've just called him a pinhead. Hehheh. You _do_ know where
>> that phrase comes from, don't you?
>
> Hmm. I guess I was late to the Zippy train. I had no idea that it started
> with him.
>
> The Wikipedia article was informative - thanks for the cue
>
> I read Zippy on line, but I don't recall quite when I started. Maybe 12
> years ago - or 6, or 18. Take your pick

I've a nice file for making "Zippy for President" buttons...and a
button-maker, too. Heh. Want one?

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 1/29/10, Lord Vetinari posted:
> "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hjtg8o$cb6$1@news.albasani.net...
>> On 1/28/10, Lord Vetinari posted:
>>> "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:hjr8ds$cnn$1@news.albasani.net...
>>>> On 1/26/10, Zootal posted:
>>>>>> Floppy works fine here, but I'm using a USB drive, not an internal
>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To tell the truth, I didn't know computers had floppy controllers any
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you can solve the USB stick problem...I can't, sorry.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I haven't yet had a board that didn't have a floppy controller - I'm
>>>>> sure they are there, but all of mine have them. Booting from a USB stick
>>>>> is not as realiable as booting from a floppy - ie. booting from a floppy
>>>>> always works. I have one board that won't boot from a USB stick if IDE0
>>>>> is connected. I have another that only works if the USB stick is in a
>>>>> certain port. It's kinda like plug and pray...um...plug and play - it
>>>>> mostly works but is still quirky.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm getting the idea that this is not a common problem - lucky me! I
>>>>> just boot to XP to do the floppy writes I needed - I just needed to make
>>>>> some partition magic boot disks. Boot to XP, run the PM floppy disk
>>>>> maker, reboot back to Win7, end of story. Six months from now I'll try
>>>>> to write something to a floppy disk and then remember, oh yeah, can't do
>>>>> that from Win7...<gg>...
>>>>
>>>> Sort of "are we having fun yet?".
>>
>>> Oh dear. You've just called him a pinhead. Hehheh. You _do_ know where
>>> that phrase comes from, don't you?
>>
>> Hmm. I guess I was late to the Zippy train. I had no idea that it started
>> with him.
>>
>> The Wikipedia article was informative - thanks for the cue
>>
>> I read Zippy on line, but I don't recall quite when I started. Maybe 12
>> years ago - or 6, or 18. Take your pick

> I've a nice file for making "Zippy for President" buttons...and a
> button-maker, too. Heh. Want one?

Oy, weh!

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com

 

[Van Chocstraw]

Zootal wrote:
> Here is a bit of an off the wall problem. When running Win7, I can neither
> format nor write to a disk in the floppy drive. Boot to XP, and it works
> fine. Are there known issues with Windoes 7 writing to floppy drives?

Get a thumb drive. Floppies are a waste, slow and unreliable.