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Win7 and Norton 2010 Anti Virus

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No Spam

Flightless Bird
In article <20100110235640.7336.43473.XPN@nogodhere.net>
Enkidu <enkidu@nogodhere.net> wrote:

>Emrys Davies wrote:
>
>>
>> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
>> news:IQU1n.17089$Wl3.2420@newsfe11.iad...
>>>
>>> "John Smith" <someone@somewhere.com.INVALID> wrote in message
>>> news:hi954m$i59$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
>>>
>>> Free, works well, low resource overhead...pretty much zero

>> problems...you
>>> won't know it's there and you won't have to mess with it.

>>
>> What is your experience with this product please?

>
>I gotta wonder if you want your AV software from the same people who
>wrote your OS, no matter what OS you use. If MS (or Apple) left a big
>security hole, would you rather it be blocked by someone looking over
>his shoulder at the public relations problems such a hole would cause,
>or would you rather it be filled by someone who is looking ahead at the
>the public relations coup of being the first to block that hole?
>



I don't get it, why would you not get your anti virus or security
software from the same people who wrote the OS?

They know their product (the OS in this case) more than anyone else out
there.

Your argument doesn't make sense, sorry.

>Independence and competion can be good.


True, but that has no effect on this specific argument.
 
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Drew

Flightless Bird
Stay away from all that is Norton or Mcafee.. They are just bloatware
spelled differently.. Avast or Avg for free products or Sunbelt's Vipre are
all good products

"Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:7qpm35FcctU1@mid.individual.net...
> Is there any history of Norton's Anti Virus product
> http://www.antivirusware.com/norton-antivirus/ interfering with Win7. I
> may decide to use that. I read the somewhat detailed thread on anti
> virus products on here recently and will also consider those.
>
>
 
J

johnbee

Flightless Bird
"Drew" <aylen1957@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:hjg9op$1lm$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Stay away from all that is Norton or Mcafee.. They are just bloatware
> spelled differently.. Avast or Avg for free products or Sunbelt's Vipre
> are all good products
>
> "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:7qpm35FcctU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Is there any history of Norton's Anti Virus product
>> http://www.antivirusware.com/norton-antivirus/ interfering with Win7. I
>> may decide to use that. I read the somewhat detailed thread on anti
>> virus products on here recently and will also consider those.
>>
>>


Except of course that if you actually get a nasty virus on the machine and
your freebies fail to get rid of it, having Norton on your PC means that you
will be able to get rid of it for certain by visiting the web site and
asking for a tool to remove it.
 
K

KCB

Flightless Bird
"johnbee" <wagley@screaming.net> wrote in message
news:hjgdfq$brb$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Drew" <aylen1957@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:hjg9op$1lm$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Stay away from all that is Norton or Mcafee.. They are just bloatware
>> spelled differently.. Avast or Avg for free products or Sunbelt's Vipre
>> are all good products
>>
>> "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:7qpm35FcctU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Is there any history of Norton's Anti Virus product
>>> http://www.antivirusware.com/norton-antivirus/ interfering with Win7. I
>>> may decide to use that. I read the somewhat detailed thread on anti
>>> virus products on here recently and will also consider those.
>>>
>>>

>
> Except of course that if you actually get a nasty virus on the machine and
> your freebies fail to get rid of it, having Norton on your PC means that
> you will be able to get rid of it for certain by visiting the web site and
> asking for a tool to remove it.
>


I have to add my 2 cents to this thread. I haven't used any Norton product
for years because of the slowdowns I had seen on so many computers, at work
and at home. Recently, I built a Windows 7 computer using an Asus P6X58D
Premium motherboard. This MB came with a trial version of Norton Internet
Security. I normally would not install anything Norton because of past
experience, but decided to give this a try since it had been so long since I
had used it. I have to tell you that this is one of the quickest,
low-memory-using AV products that I have ever seen. Right now it is using
2,504 KB (according to Task Manager, system is idle other than this window
and a browser window, with Steam in the background). My boot time is not
slowed down by it, and it doesn't throw itself in my face with stupid update
windows or "Please stand by..." popup.
On the other hand, my XP machine has Avast! free home version installed,
which is utilizing over 120,000 KB, sitting at the desktop. Avast
constantly throws the update popup on screen while it announces that it has
been updated. The update even intrudes into full screen game windows. I
know it can be put in silent mode, but that does not help with the slower
boot times that it causes. On top of this, I know 3 people who have been
infected by the "Your machine is infected and cannot run any programs until
you buy this AV product" with Avast installed and updated.
I am seriously considering buying this Norton product. It is version
16.7.2.11 of Norton Internet Security. It includes anti-virus,
anti-spyware, firewall, anti-phishing, and identity protection, and I am
impressed with it. If you knew me and knew how I have talked about Norton
products to my friends and family, you would be shocked.
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
johnbee wrote:
> "Drew"<aylen1957@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:hjg9op$1lm$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Stay away from all that is Norton or Mcafee.. They are just bloatware
>> spelled differently.. Avast or Avg for free products or Sunbelt's Vipre
>> are all good products
>>
>> "Emrys Davies"<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:7qpm35FcctU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Is there any history of Norton's Anti Virus product
>>> http://www.antivirusware.com/norton-antivirus/ interfering with Win7. I
>>> may decide to use that. I read the somewhat detailed thread on anti
>>> virus products on here recently and will also consider those.
>>>
>>>

>
> Except of course that if you actually get a nasty virus on the machine and
> your freebies fail to get rid of it, having Norton on your PC means that you
> will be able to get rid of it for certain by visiting the web site and
> asking for a tool to remove it.
>
>


Superstition. Norton won't protect you any better than the free
antivirus tools, and it is a bloated piece of shit that brings
most systems to their knees.

-Al-
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
KCB wrote:
>
> "johnbee" <wagley@screaming.net> wrote in message
> news:hjgdfq$brb$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Drew" <aylen1957@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:hjg9op$1lm$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> Stay away from all that is Norton or Mcafee.. They are just bloatware
>>> spelled differently.. Avast or Avg for free products or Sunbelt's
>>> Vipre are all good products
>>>
>>> "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:7qpm35FcctU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Is there any history of Norton's Anti Virus product
>>>> http://www.antivirusware.com/norton-antivirus/ interfering with Win7. I
>>>> may decide to use that. I read the somewhat detailed thread on anti
>>>> virus products on here recently and will also consider those.
>>>>
>>>>

>>
>> Except of course that if you actually get a nasty virus on the machine
>> and your freebies fail to get rid of it, having Norton on your PC
>> means that you will be able to get rid of it for certain by visiting
>> the web site and asking for a tool to remove it.
>>

>
> I have to add my 2 cents to this thread. I haven't used any Norton
> product for years because of the slowdowns I had seen on so many
> computers, at work and at home. Recently, I built a Windows 7 computer
> using an Asus P6X58D Premium motherboard. This MB came with a trial
> version of Norton Internet Security. I normally would not install
> anything Norton because of past experience, but decided to give this a
> try since it had been so long since I had used it. I have to tell you
> that this is one of the quickest, low-memory-using AV products that I
> have ever seen. Right now it is using 2,504 KB (according to Task
> Manager, system is idle other than this window and a browser window,
> with Steam in the background). My boot time is not slowed down by it,
> and it doesn't throw itself in my face with stupid update windows or
> "Please stand by..." popup.
> On the other hand, my XP machine has Avast! free home version installed,
> which is utilizing over 120,000 KB, sitting at the desktop. Avast
> constantly throws the update popup on screen while it announces that it
> has been updated. The update even intrudes into full screen game
> windows. I know it can be put in silent mode, but that does not help
> with the slower boot times that it causes. On top of this, I know 3
> people who have been infected by the "Your machine is infected and
> cannot run any programs until you buy this AV product" with Avast
> installed and updated.
> I am seriously considering buying this Norton product. It is version
> 16.7.2.11 of Norton Internet Security. It includes anti-virus,
> anti-spyware, firewall, anti-phishing, and identity protection, and I am
> impressed with it. If you knew me and knew how I have talked about
> Norton products to my friends and family, you would be shocked.



You work for Symantec, right?

-Al-
 
G

Grenou

Flightless Bird
"johnbee" <wagley@screaming.net> wrote in message
news:hjgdfq$brb$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Drew" <aylen1957@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:hjg9op$1lm$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Stay away from all that is Norton or Mcafee.. They are just bloatware
>> spelled differently.. Avast or Avg for free products or Sunbelt's Vipre
>> are all good products
>>
>> "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:7qpm35FcctU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Is there any history of Norton's Anti Virus product
>>> http://www.antivirusware.com/norton-antivirus/ interfering with Win7. I
>>> may decide to use that. I read the somewhat detailed thread on anti
>>> virus products on here recently and will also consider those.
>>>
>>>

>
> Except of course that if you actually get a nasty virus on the machine and
> your freebies fail to get rid of it, having Norton on your PC means that
> you will be able to get rid of it for certain by visiting the web site and
> asking for a tool to remove it.
>



You don't need to own Norton to do that :)

Grenou
 
P

Prescott

Flightless Bird
No Spam wrote:
> In article <IQU1n.17089$Wl3.2420@newsfe11.iad>
> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote:
>
>> "John Smith" <someone@somewhere.com.INVALID> wrote in message
>> news:hi954m$i59$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
>>
>> Free, works well, low resource overhead...pretty much zero problems...you
>> won't know it's there and you won't have to mess with it.
>>

>
> Low resource overhead?
> Not in my case.
>
> I have several computers in my home network and one of the is a slightly
> outdate, with 512MB RAM and it started crawling when I installed MSE.
> I uninstalled it and everything works again.
>
> But it has no problems with other computers that I am using it on, they
> range from 4 GB RAM to 12GB.


I was recently cleaning up a netbook that was barely functional. I ran
a Malwarebytes scan and got some stuff off, then I removed the
anti-virus software and installed Microsoft Security Essentials and it
slowed to an incredible crawl. After checking it out I found that there
was another anti virus program installed. There had been two anti-virus
programs installed when I got the netbook.

I removed the second anti-virus program and left the MSE on it, and it
came back to life, and ran fine. I wanted MSE on the computer because I
wanted to use the MSE full scan on it.

MSE with one anti-virus was much slower than the original two anti virus
programs had been. No anti-virus programs play nicely with other
anti-virus programs, but that seems to be particularly true of MSE.

If the computer slowed that much when you put MSE on it, check to make
sure that there isn't a second anti-virus on it.
 
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