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Win XP and Win 7

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Gene, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. Gene

    Gene Flightless Bird

    I apollogize if someone feels this it OT but I can't find an NG for Win 7.
    Regarding an "up-grade" from XP to 7.
    I OWN a stand alone ( not upgrade) retail copy of XP .
    I am going to build a new PC and retire my present one. I will be slaving my
    current hard drive to the new one so I can keep some of my files and have
    some extra storage. I want to install Win 7 on the new hard drive.
    Win XP will not be the bootable HD.
    I want to use Win 7 Pro Upgrade for my new OS and do a "clean" install.
    Does Win 7 verify the presence of Win XP by the ORIGINAL Win XP disc? (
    which I have)
    OR
    Does Win XP have to be on the same drive that I want to install Win 7 on?
    Thanks for any and all help
    --
    McM
     
  2. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7 - Help & How-to - Microsoft Windows:
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7

    Win7 Forums (no newsgroups)
    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7

    Win7 Install, upgrade & activate forum
    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/threads


    Gene wrote:
    > I apollogize if someone feels this it OT but I can't find an NG for Win 7.
    > Regarding an "up-grade" from XP to 7.
    > I OWN a stand alone ( not upgrade) retail copy of XP .
    > I am going to build a new PC and retire my present one. I will be slaving
    > my
    > current hard drive to the new one so I can keep some of my files and have
    > some extra storage. I want to install Win 7 on the new hard drive.
    > Win XP will not be the bootable HD.
    > I want to use Win 7 Pro Upgrade for my new OS and do a "clean" install.
    > Does Win 7 verify the presence of Win XP by the ORIGINAL Win XP disc? (
    > which I have)
    > OR
    > Does Win XP have to be on the same drive that I want to install Win 7 on?
    > Thanks for any and all help
     
  3. sgopus

    sgopus Flightless Bird

    Here ya go
    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/default.aspx
    Choose forums and windows 7

    "Gene" wrote:

    > I apollogize if someone feels this it OT but I can't find an NG for Win 7.
    > Regarding an "up-grade" from XP to 7.
    > I OWN a stand alone ( not upgrade) retail copy of XP .
    > I am going to build a new PC and retire my present one. I will be slaving my
    > current hard drive to the new one so I can keep some of my files and have
    > some extra storage. I want to install Win 7 on the new hard drive.
    > Win XP will not be the bootable HD.
    > I want to use Win 7 Pro Upgrade for my new OS and do a "clean" install.
    > Does Win 7 verify the presence of Win XP by the ORIGINAL Win XP disc? (
    > which I have)
    > OR
    > Does Win XP have to be on the same drive that I want to install Win 7 on?
    > Thanks for any and all help
    > --
    > McM
     
  4. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    Gene wrote:
    > I apollogize if someone feels this it OT but I can't find an NG for
    > Win 7. Regarding an "up-grade" from XP to 7.
    > I OWN a stand alone ( not upgrade) retail copy of XP .
    > I am going to build a new PC and retire my present one. I will be
    > slaving my current hard drive to the new one so I can keep some of my
    > files and have some extra storage. I want to install Win 7 on the new
    > hard drive.
    > Win XP will not be the bootable HD.
    > I want to use Win 7 Pro Upgrade for my new OS and do a "clean"
    > install. Does Win 7 verify the presence of Win XP by the ORIGINAL Win
    > XP disc? ( which I have)
    > OR
    > Does Win XP have to be on the same drive that I want to install Win 7
    > on? Thanks for any and all help


    The usual way to "upgrade" XP to Windows 7 is covered in this tutorial:

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7

    IMO, it's a bit convoluted. Although it is a Clean Install, it's not
    done by the old method of asking you slip in the XP installation CD as
    proof of ownership of a qualifying OS. In order to verify, you must have
    XP _installed_ on the hard drive (!) and then the Clean Install of
    Windows 7 commences!

    Of course, this is of no help to people like you who clearly own the
    qualifying XP installation CD but wish to install Windows 7 onto a bare
    hard drive (unless you waste your time by installing XP first).

    Fortunately, there is a workaround discussed here (Method #3 seems to be
    the best method):

    http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

    It's convoluted, too, but to a lesser degree. :) Essentially, you are
    installing a "temporary" instance of Windows 7. And then you will
    perform a second "upgrade" install. Yes, Micorosft strangely allows you
    to upgrade Windows 7 to Windows 7! It's stupid, but it works. And
    according to Paul Thurrott, this method is supported by Microsoft.

    But try the first method if you wish. Some people have had success just
    installing the darn thing!

    At least you have options. :)
     
  5. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    Gene wrote:

    >I apollogize if someone feels this it OT but I can't find an NG for Win 7.
    >Regarding an "up-grade" from XP to 7.
    >I OWN a stand alone ( not upgrade) retail copy of XP .
    >I am going to build a new PC and retire my present one. I will be slaving my
    >current hard drive to the new one so I can keep some of my files and have
    >some extra storage. I want to install Win 7 on the new hard drive.
    >Win XP will not be the bootable HD.
    >I want to use Win 7 Pro Upgrade for my new OS and do a "clean" install.
    >Does Win 7 verify the presence of Win XP by the ORIGINAL Win XP disc? (
    >which I have)
    >OR
    >Does Win XP have to be on the same drive that I want to install Win 7 on?
    >Thanks for any and all help
    >
    >

    Anybody can use an upgrade CD to do a clean install of XP and you don't
    even need to own XP. Microsoft has decided to allow any Tom, Dick and
    Harry to get Windows 7 as quickly as possible before they could change
    their mind because M$ wants your money quickly.

    Go ahead and there is no check of XP.

    Good Luck
     
  6. Gene

    Gene Flightless Bird

    "ANONYMOUS" wrote:

    > Anybody can use an upgrade CD to do a clean install of XP and you don't
    > even need to own XP. Microsoft has decided to allow any Tom, Dick and
    > Harry to get Windows 7 as quickly as possible before they could change
    > their mind because M$ wants your money quickly.
    >
    > Go ahead and there is no check of XP.
    >
    > Good Luck


    OH Really?
    Since I'm probably going to try one of the convoluted ways I'll let you know
    IF I can install with no verification..............as a matter of fact I
    might get the Tooth Fairy to do the installation for me.
    ThaNKS
     
  7. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    Read this link:

    http://windowssecrets.com/comp/091112

    You don't need "Tooth Fairy to do the installation". I can point you in the
    right direction but it will be up to you to do the manual work.

    Let me know how it goes.


    "Gene" <Gene@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:201BDEBB-EB52-4037-A17E-73CBBA069ED2@microsoft.com...
    >
    > "ANONYMOUS" wrote:
    >
    >> Anybody can use an upgrade CD to do a clean install of XP and you don't
    >> even need to own XP. Microsoft has decided to allow any Tom, Dick and
    >> Harry to get Windows 7 as quickly as possible before they could change
    >> their mind because M$ wants your money quickly.
    >>
    >> Go ahead and there is no check of XP.
    >>
    >> Good Luck

    >
    > OH Really?
    > Since I'm probably going to try one of the convoluted ways I'll let you
    > know
    > IF I can install with no verification..............as a matter of fact I
    > might get the Tooth Fairy to do the installation for me.
    > ThaNKS
     
  8. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    Gene wrote:
    > "ANONYMOUS" wrote:
    >
    >> Anybody can use an upgrade CD to do a clean install of XP and you
    >> don't even need to own XP. Microsoft has decided to allow any Tom,
    >> Dick and Harry to get Windows 7 as quickly as possible before they
    >> could change their mind because M$ wants your money quickly.
    >>
    >> Go ahead and there is no check of XP.
    >>
    >> Good Luck

    >
    > OH Really?
    > Since I'm probably going to try one of the convoluted ways I'll let
    > you know IF I can install with no verification..............as a
    > matter of fact I might get the Tooth Fairy to do the installation for
    > me.
    > ThaNKS


    As I said in my post, a number of people have had success just
    installing it. As the Paul Thurrott Web page stated:

    "Many, many readers report that they have been able to simply treat the
    Windows 7 Upgrade media as if it were Full media, and that it just
    works. And you know what? It doesn't hurt to simply try this method,
    because if it doesn't work, you can then try methods 2 and then 3, in
    order, afterwards. There is no downside to trying this."

    What I would like to learn is why this method works for some and not for
    others!
     
  9. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Please don't feed the trolls...especially /that/ troll.

    Gene wrote:
    > "ANONYMOUS" wrote:
    >
    >> Anybody can use an upgrade CD to do a clean install of XP and you don't
    >> even need to own XP. Microsoft has decided to allow any Tom, Dick and
    >> Harry to get Windows 7 as quickly as possible before they could change
    >> their mind because M$ wants your money quickly.
    >>
    >> Go ahead and there is no check of XP.
    >>
    >> Good Luck

    >
    > OH Really?
    > Since I'm probably going to try one of the convoluted ways I'll let you
    > know
    > IF I can install with no verification..............as a matter of fact I
    > might get the Tooth Fairy to do the installation for me.
    > ThaNKS
     
  10. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    When will you college students learn that you cannot impress others with
    your kind of replies?
    "ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
    news:%23p5OaSWmKHA.3128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Gene wrote:
    >
    >>I apollogize if someone feels this it OT but I can't find an NG for Win 7.
    >>Regarding an "up-grade" from XP to 7. I OWN a stand alone ( not upgrade)
    >>retail copy of XP .
    >>I am going to build a new PC and retire my present one. I will be slaving
    >>my current hard drive to the new one so I can keep some of my files and
    >>have some extra storage. I want to install Win 7 on the new hard drive.
    >>Win XP will not be the bootable HD.
    >>I want to use Win 7 Pro Upgrade for my new OS and do a "clean" install.
    >>Does Win 7 verify the presence of Win XP by the ORIGINAL Win XP disc? (
    >>which I have)
    >>OR
    >>Does Win XP have to be on the same drive that I want to install Win 7 on?
    >>Thanks for any and all help
    >>

    > Anybody can use an upgrade CD to do a clean install of XP and you don't
    > even need to own XP. Microsoft has decided to allow any Tom, Dick and
    > Harry to get Windows 7 as quickly as possible before they could change
    > their mind because M$ wants your money quickly.
    >
    > Go ahead and there is no check of XP.
    > Good Luck
    >
     
  11. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    Unknown wrote:

    >When will you college students learn that you cannot impress others with
    >your kind of replies?
    >
    >


    You seem to be quite impressed because you read all my messages. Let me
    know if you want some more tips on Windows XP, Windows Vista or Windows
    7. I shall certainly try to impress you in any way I can.

    By the way, has Peter Foldes employed you in his escort business? Make
    sure you use condoms <and your clients as well> because aids is an
    incurable disease.
     
  12. JessicaD42

    JessicaD42 Flightless Bird

    Gene,

    You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
    however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
    Windows XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade
    and activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from
    Windows XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option.
    You will however have the option to select "custom" install when
    prompted. The Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data
    in "My Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself.
    All applications and documents stored in other locations will have to
    be reinstalled / transferred manually.
    For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go he
    http://bit.ly/3DvynK

    For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to Windows
    7, please go he http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4

    Jessica
    Microsoft Windows Client Team




    --
    JessicaD42
     

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