Will upgrades trigger reactivation?

[ANONYMOUS]

a wrote:

>"db" <databaseben@hotmail.com> wrote
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>>the purpose of the hardware hash is basically
>>to keep windows from being pirated.
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>And it works so well!
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Most of the time when dealing with honest people. Never when dealing
with hackers and crackers.

hth

 

[a]

"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote

>> Do you consider being interrogated by a Microsoft employee painless?
>> It happened to me when I added a new HD for backup. Got a demand to
>> reactivate, then the employee wanted to know why I was activating
>> again, and what I did to cause it. Microsoft Australia.
>
> This to you is interrogation? How long was this particular exchange?

It's interrogation when Microsoft's own spin says no personal info is
collected during activation, and clearly it was. They wanted to know
my personal reasons for activating again, which is none of their
business. Just activate, or don't activate, and don't ask questions in
line with policy.

 

[Daave]

a wrote:
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote
>
>>> Do you consider being interrogated by a Microsoft employee painless?
>>> It happened to me when I added a new HD for backup. Got a demand to
>>> reactivate, then the employee wanted to know why I was activating
>>> again, and what I did to cause it. Microsoft Australia.
>>
>> This to you is interrogation? How long was this particular exchange?
>
> It's interrogation when Microsoft's own spin says no personal info is
> collected during activation, and clearly it was. They wanted to know
> my personal reasons for activating again, which is none of their
> business. Just activate, or don't activate, and don't ask questions in
> line with policy.

You clearly misunderstand the definition of the term "personal
information!" Your particular interpretation is overly broad. Ditto for
the word "interrogation."

And if that particular exchange caused you pain, I hope you never have
to endure real pain in your life.

 

[Daave]

This most likely occurred because the last time you installed it was
less than 120 days ago.

Pro tip: The need to reinstall an operating system is very small as long
as you create an image of the hard drive (after activation, of course).


Kim wrote:
> I had to reinstall XP yesterday and was asked to reactivate and
> there`s been no hardware changes to this machine.
>
>
> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> newsVO0lm4nKHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> In news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
>> Don Phillipson <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> typed:
>>> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
>>> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
>>> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
>>> 2. Extra RAM
>>> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
>>> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
>>>
>>> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
>>
>> Maybe ... maybe not. Depends. But who cares as long as it's not a
>> pirated copy?
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Twayne

 

[Twayne]

In news:e$xLo4CoKHA.6084@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
Daave <daave@example.com> typed:
> This most likely occurred because the last time you installed it was
> less than 120 days ago.
>
> Pro tip: The need to reinstall an operating system is very small as
> long as you create an image of the hard drive (after activation, of
> course).

And a newbie knows what a disk image is, how to create one, and what's
needed to create one. In the few instances where I do manual installs, I
take images at various stages, many of them BEFORE activation. e.g. Raw
windows, .nets added, SP's a/r, fully updated, updated & full installed,
etc.. Makes for easy troubleshooting steps later if something glitches &
makes sure no malware of any kind exists in it. Then I toss 'em on a few
DVDs and forget about them. Turned out real handy the time it turned out I
had malware for a long time and it never showed itself or caused anything
bad until a certain date. Many images were screwed up; used one of the
interims to get restarted again.

>
>
> Kim wrote:
>> I had to reinstall XP yesterday and was asked to reactivate and
>> there`s been no hardware changes to this machine.
>>
>>
>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>> newsVO0lm4nKHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> In news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
>>> Don Phillipson <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> typed:
>>>> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
>>>> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
>>>> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
>>>> 2. Extra RAM
>>>> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
>>>> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
>>>>
>>>> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
>>>
>>> Maybe ... maybe not. Depends. But who cares as long as it's not a
>>> pirated copy?
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> Twayne

 

[Doug W.]

"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
newsHhdWmBoKHA.5344@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>a wrote:
>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote
>>
>>>> Do you consider being interrogated by a Microsoft employee
>>>> painless?
>>>> It happened to me when I added a new HD for backup. Got a
>>>> demand to
>>>> reactivate, then the employee wanted to know why I was
>>>> activating
>>>> again, and what I did to cause it. Microsoft Australia.
>>>
>>> This to you is interrogation? How long was this particular
>>> exchange?
>>
>> It's interrogation when Microsoft's own spin says no personal
>> info is
>> collected during activation, and clearly it was. They wanted
>> to know
>> my personal reasons for activating again, which is none of
>> their
>> business. Just activate, or don't activate, and don't ask
>> questions in
>> line with policy.
>
> You clearly misunderstand the definition of the term "personal
> information!" Your particular interpretation is overly broad.
> Ditto for the word "interrogation."
>
> And if that particular exchange caused you pain, I hope you
> never have to endure real pain in your life.
>
Well, at least they didn't use brass knuckles.
==

 

[Kim]

"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
news:e$xLo4CoKHA.6084@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> This most likely occurred because the last time you installed it was less
> than 120 days ago.

It was over 2 years ago


> Kim wrote:
>> I had to reinstall XP yesterday and was asked to reactivate and
>> there`s been no hardware changes to this machine.

 

[Daave]

>> Kim wrote:
>>> I had to reinstall XP yesterday and was asked to reactivate and
>>> there`s been no hardware changes to this machine.

> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:e$xLo4CoKHA.6084@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> This most likely occurred because the last time you installed it was
>> less than 120 days ago.

Kim wrote:
> It was over 2 years ago

I had assumed you meant the Internet activation didn't work and you
needed to activate over the telephone. The main reason this would happen
(if you hadn't changed lots of hardware) is if the previous time you
installed XP was within 120 days. Another reason would be if you weren't
online.

Then again, if all you meant was you were "asked to activate," this is
normal behavior *any* time you install XP. The context of this thread
was telephone activation *or* changing lots of hardware; that's what I
thought you meant.

 

[duckstandard]

a wrote:
> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote
>
> > Since Activation is painless, even if you have to call, why are you
> > worried?
>
> Do you consider being interrogated by a Microsoft employee painless?
> It happened to me when I added a new HD for backup. Got a demand to
> reactivate, then the employee wanted to know why I was activating
> again, and what I did to cause it. Microsoft Australia.

I've called them 100 times. Only one or two out of them was overly
protective of microsoft to kinda piss me off. The rest were easy
enough to speak with.

Does microsoft Australia speak with a Indian accent also?

Regardless now it's automated, at least the US activation numbers are.