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Will upgrades trigger reactivation?

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Don Phillipson, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. Don Phillipson

    Don Phillipson Flightless Bird

    Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    2. Extra RAM
    3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    4. Adding a second hard drive.

    Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?

    --
    Don Phillipson
    Carlsbad Springs
    (Ottawa, Canada)
     
  2. Jim

    Jim Flightless Bird

    I added a DVD drive, more RAM, and a second internal drive. This didn't
    cause a demand for reactivation.
    Jim
    "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
    news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    > (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    > 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    > 2. Extra RAM
    > 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    > 4. Adding a second hard drive.
    >
    > Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
    >
    > --
    > Don Phillipson
    > Carlsbad Springs
    > (Ottawa, Canada)
    >
    >
     
  3. Mark Adams

    Mark Adams Flightless Bird

    "Don Phillipson" wrote:

    > Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    > (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    > 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    > 2. Extra RAM
    > 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    > 4. Adding a second hard drive.
    >
    > Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
    >
    > --
    > Don Phillipson
    > Carlsbad Springs
    > (Ottawa, Canada)
    >
    >

    Yes, it's likely. But so what? Just reactivate.
     
  4. smlunatick

    smlunatick Flightless Bird

    On Jan 26, 6:42 pm, "Jim" <j...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    > I added a DVD drive, more RAM, and a second internal drive.  This didn't
    > cause a demand for reactivation.
    > Jim"Don Phillipson" <e...@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
    >
    > news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >
    > > Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    > > (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    > > 1.  New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    > > 2.  Extra RAM
    > > 3.  USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    > > 4.  Adding a second hard drive.

    >
    > > Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?

    >
    > > --
    > > Don Phillipson
    > > Carlsbad Springs
    > > (Ottawa, Canada)


    Please note that all hardware changes "tally up" a change counter.
    Depending on the number of changes, the re-activation "might" pop up
    when the "allowed" changes "counter" matches the "product activation"
    limit count flag. I got the "product" reactivation demand on a video
    card driver update once.

    Your changes "should" not require a reactivation.

    BTW: That should be Ottawa, Ontario, Canada!!!
     
  5. db

    db Flightless Bird

    when windows is first installed it takes an
    inventory of the hardware and creates a
    "hardware hash" of that computer.

    the purpose of the hardware hash is basically
    to keep windows from being pirated.

    each time windows is booted it double
    checks the hash to compare with the
    computers configuration.

    if the computer matches the hash, then
    there isn't any problems.


    -----------

    however, there is room for casual upgrading
    of the hardware.

    if I recall, out of the ten hardware checks
    registered in the hash,

    there is room to change 6 hardware
    components without problems or
    reactivation.


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    >


    "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
    news:unlp1#pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    > (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    > 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    > 2. Extra RAM
    > 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    > 4. Adding a second hard drive.
    >
    > Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
    >
    > --
    > Don Phillipson
    > Carlsbad Springs
    > (Ottawa, Canada)
    >
    >
     
  6. Ian D

    Ian D Flightless Bird

    "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
    news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    > (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    > 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    > 2. Extra RAM
    > 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    > 4. Adding a second hard drive.
    >
    > Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
    >
    > --
    > Don Phillipson
    > Carlsbad Springs
    > (Ottawa, Canada)
    >
    >


    Those changes shouldn't trigger a reactivation. The
    one item that can trigger a reactivation is a new
    motherboard. I don't think that PCI cards are in the
    activation hardware hash.
     
  7. Leythos

    Leythos Flightless Bird

    In article <unlp1#pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, e925
    @SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca says...
    >
    > Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    > (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    > 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    > 2. Extra RAM
    > 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    > 4. Adding a second hard drive.
    >
    > Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?


    There is no way to actually answer your question as activation is based
    on a factor of many counts for different hardware.

    Since Activation is painless, even if you have to call, why are you
    worried?

    --
    You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
    voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
    Trust yourself.
    spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
     
  8. a

    a Flightless Bird

    "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote

    > Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?


    Hard to say. I added a second HD once and it demanded reactivation.
     
  9. a

    a Flightless Bird

    "db" <databaseben@hotmail.com> wrote

    > the purpose of the hardware hash is basically
    > to keep windows from being pirated.


    And it works so well! ;)
     
  10. a

    a Flightless Bird

    "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote

    > Since Activation is painless, even if you have to call, why are you
    > worried?


    Do you consider being interrogated by a Microsoft employee painless?
    It happened to me when I added a new HD for backup. Got a demand to
    reactivate, then the employee wanted to know why I was activating
    again, and what I did to cause it. Microsoft Australia.
     
  11. Doum

    Doum Flightless Bird

    "Ian D" <taurus@nowhereatall.com> écrivait news:uanb1OsnKHA.1552
    @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

    >
    > "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
    > news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    >> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    >> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    >> 2. Extra RAM
    >> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    >> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
    >>
    >> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
    >>
    >> --
    >> Don Phillipson
    >> Carlsbad Springs
    >> (Ottawa, Canada)
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Those changes shouldn't trigger a reactivation. The
    > one item that can trigger a reactivation is a new
    > motherboard. I don't think that PCI cards are in the
    > activation hardware hash.
    >
    >


    I know someone whose PC BIOS lost its configuration and that reenabled a
    built-in unused (and disabled) ATA133 controller. On the next boot, Windows
    asked to reactivate.
     
  12. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    a wrote:
    > "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote
    >
    >> Since Activation is painless, even if you have to call, why are you
    >> worried?

    >
    > Do you consider being interrogated by a Microsoft employee painless?
    > It happened to me when I added a new HD for backup. Got a demand to
    > reactivate, then the employee wanted to know why I was activating
    > again, and what I did to cause it. Microsoft Australia.


    This to you is interrogation? How long was this particular exchange?
     
  13. paul0073

    paul0073 Flightless Bird

    In article <uanb1OsnKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
    taurus@nowhereatall.com says...
    >
    > "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
    > news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > > Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    > > (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    > > 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    > > 2. Extra RAM
    > > 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    > > 4. Adding a second hard drive.
    > >
    > > Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
    > >
    > > --
    > > Don Phillipson
    > > Carlsbad Springs
    > > (Ottawa, Canada)
    > >
    > >

    >
    > Those changes shouldn't trigger a reactivation. The
    > one item that can trigger a reactivation is a new
    > motherboard. I don't think that PCI cards are in the
    > activation hardware hash.


    Yes the PCI card is part of the activation process.
    In fact, on my older mb without a builtin ethernet,
    I had relocated the nic to another slot & it triggered
    the demand for activation.

    There was no other change/addition/deletion of hardware.

    If the mb has ethernet, then the adding of a nic won't
    demand an activation as m$ was inventoring the mb lan.
     
  14. Bill Sharpe

    Bill Sharpe Flightless Bird

    a wrote:
    > "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote
    >
    >> Since Activation is painless, even if you have to call, why are you
    >> worried?

    >
    > Do you consider being interrogated by a Microsoft employee painless?
    > It happened to me when I added a new HD for backup. Got a demand to
    > reactivate, then the employee wanted to know why I was activating
    > again, and what I did to cause it. Microsoft Australia.
    >
    >

    Your account of the "interrogation" sounds pretty painless to me.
    We found the Australians extremely friendly on our last visit Down
    Under. <g>

    Bill
     
  15. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
    Don Phillipson <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> typed:
    > Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    > (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    > 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    > 2. Extra RAM
    > 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    > 4. Adding a second hard drive.
    >
    > Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?


    Maybe ... maybe not. Depends. But who cares as long as it's not a pirated
    copy?

    HTH,

    Twayne
     
  16. Leythos

    Leythos Flightless Bird

    In article <4b600dc9$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, b@invalid.com says...
    >
    > "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote
    >
    > > Since Activation is painless, even if you have to call, why are you
    > > worried?

    >
    > Do you consider being interrogated by a Microsoft employee painless?
    > It happened to me when I added a new HD for backup. Got a demand to
    > reactivate, then the employee wanted to know why I was activating
    > again, and what I did to cause it. Microsoft Australia.


    Do you consider trolling in every one of your posts?

    Activation works painlessly over the internet and with little pain over
    the phone.

    Having "activated" thousands of machines I have never had any "pain" in
    doing it, the PAIN is normally something that anti-MS trolls post about.

    --
    You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
    voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
    Trust yourself.
    spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
     
  17. John Wunderlich

    John Wunderlich Flightless Bird

    "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in
    news:unlp1#pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

    > Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    > (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    > 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    > 2. Extra RAM
    > 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    > 4. Adding a second hard drive.
    >
    > Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
    >


    Microsoft explains it all here:

    "Technical Details on Microsoft Product Activation for Windows XP"
    <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457054.aspx>

    HTH,
    John
     
  18. Kim

    Kim Flightless Bird

    I had to reinstall XP yesterday and was asked to reactivate and there`s been
    no hardware changes to this machine.


    "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:-OVO0lm4nKHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > In news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
    > Don Phillipson <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> typed:
    >> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    >> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    >> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    >> 2. Extra RAM
    >> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    >> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
    >>
    >> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?

    >
    > Maybe ... maybe not. Depends. But who cares as long as it's not a pirated
    > copy?
    >
    > HTH,
    >
    > Twayne
    >
    >
     
  19. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    Mark Adams wrote:

    > <>Yes, it's likely. But so what? Just reactivate.


    sometimes it is not possible especially if you have used cracks to
    activate first time round and now you can't find it!!! That is why the
    question in the first place!!!
     
  20. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    Don Phillipson wrote:

    >Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
    >(WinXP Pro SP3) with:
    >1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
    >2. Extra RAM
    >3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
    >4. Adding a second hard drive.
    >
    >Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
    >
    >
    >

    Most probably not..

    hth
     

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