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Will upgrades trigger reactivation?

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Don Phillipson

Flightless Bird
Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
(WinXP Pro SP3) with:
1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
2. Extra RAM
3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
4. Adding a second hard drive.

Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
 
J

Jim

Flightless Bird
I added a DVD drive, more RAM, and a second internal drive. This didn't
cause a demand for reactivation.
Jim
"Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
> 2. Extra RAM
> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
>
> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
>
 
M

Mark Adams

Flightless Bird
"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
> 2. Extra RAM
> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
>
> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
>

Yes, it's likely. But so what? Just reactivate.
 
S

smlunatick

Flightless Bird
On Jan 26, 6:42 pm, "Jim" <j...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> I added a DVD drive, more RAM, and a second internal drive.  This didn't
> cause a demand for reactivation.
> Jim"Don Phillipson" <e...@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> > Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
> > (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
> > 1.  New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
> > 2.  Extra RAM
> > 3.  USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
> > 4.  Adding a second hard drive.

>
> > Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?

>
> > --
> > Don Phillipson
> > Carlsbad Springs
> > (Ottawa, Canada)


Please note that all hardware changes "tally up" a change counter.
Depending on the number of changes, the re-activation "might" pop up
when the "allowed" changes "counter" matches the "product activation"
limit count flag. I got the "product" reactivation demand on a video
card driver update once.

Your changes "should" not require a reactivation.

BTW: That should be Ottawa, Ontario, Canada!!!
 
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db

Flightless Bird
when windows is first installed it takes an
inventory of the hardware and creates a
"hardware hash" of that computer.

the purpose of the hardware hash is basically
to keep windows from being pirated.

each time windows is booted it double
checks the hash to compare with the
computers configuration.

if the computer matches the hash, then
there isn't any problems.


-----------

however, there is room for casual upgrading
of the hardware.

if I recall, out of the ten hardware checks
registered in the hash,

there is room to change 6 hardware
components without problems or
reactivation.


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>


"Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
news:unlp1#pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
> 2. Extra RAM
> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
>
> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
>
 
I

Ian D

Flightless Bird
"Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
> 2. Extra RAM
> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
>
> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
>


Those changes shouldn't trigger a reactivation. The
one item that can trigger a reactivation is a new
motherboard. I don't think that PCI cards are in the
activation hardware hash.
 
L

Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <unlp1#pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, e925
@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca says...
>
> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
> 2. Extra RAM
> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
>
> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?


There is no way to actually answer your question as activation is based
on a factor of many counts for different hardware.

Since Activation is painless, even if you have to call, why are you
worried?

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
A

a

Flightless Bird
"Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote

> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?


Hard to say. I added a second HD once and it demanded reactivation.
 
A

a

Flightless Bird
"db" <databaseben@hotmail.com> wrote

> the purpose of the hardware hash is basically
> to keep windows from being pirated.


And it works so well! ;)
 
A

a

Flightless Bird
"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote

> Since Activation is painless, even if you have to call, why are you
> worried?


Do you consider being interrogated by a Microsoft employee painless?
It happened to me when I added a new HD for backup. Got a demand to
reactivate, then the employee wanted to know why I was activating
again, and what I did to cause it. Microsoft Australia.
 
D

Doum

Flightless Bird
"Ian D" <taurus@nowhereatall.com> écrivait news:uanb1OsnKHA.1552
@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

>
> "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
> news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
>> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
>> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
>> 2. Extra RAM
>> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
>> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
>>
>> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
>>
>> --
>> Don Phillipson
>> Carlsbad Springs
>> (Ottawa, Canada)
>>
>>

>
> Those changes shouldn't trigger a reactivation. The
> one item that can trigger a reactivation is a new
> motherboard. I don't think that PCI cards are in the
> activation hardware hash.
>
>


I know someone whose PC BIOS lost its configuration and that reenabled a
built-in unused (and disabled) ATA133 controller. On the next boot, Windows
asked to reactivate.
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
a wrote:
> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote
>
>> Since Activation is painless, even if you have to call, why are you
>> worried?

>
> Do you consider being interrogated by a Microsoft employee painless?
> It happened to me when I added a new HD for backup. Got a demand to
> reactivate, then the employee wanted to know why I was activating
> again, and what I did to cause it. Microsoft Australia.


This to you is interrogation? How long was this particular exchange?
 
P

paul0073

Flightless Bird
In article <uanb1OsnKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
taurus@nowhereatall.com says...
>
> "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
> news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
> > (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
> > 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
> > 2. Extra RAM
> > 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
> > 4. Adding a second hard drive.
> >
> > Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
> >
> > --
> > Don Phillipson
> > Carlsbad Springs
> > (Ottawa, Canada)
> >
> >

>
> Those changes shouldn't trigger a reactivation. The
> one item that can trigger a reactivation is a new
> motherboard. I don't think that PCI cards are in the
> activation hardware hash.


Yes the PCI card is part of the activation process.
In fact, on my older mb without a builtin ethernet,
I had relocated the nic to another slot & it triggered
the demand for activation.

There was no other change/addition/deletion of hardware.

If the mb has ethernet, then the adding of a nic won't
demand an activation as m$ was inventoring the mb lan.
 
B

Bill Sharpe

Flightless Bird
a wrote:
> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote
>
>> Since Activation is painless, even if you have to call, why are you
>> worried?

>
> Do you consider being interrogated by a Microsoft employee painless?
> It happened to me when I added a new HD for backup. Got a demand to
> reactivate, then the employee wanted to know why I was activating
> again, and what I did to cause it. Microsoft Australia.
>
>

Your account of the "interrogation" sounds pretty painless to me.
We found the Australians extremely friendly on our last visit Down
Under. <g>

Bill
 
T

Twayne

Flightless Bird
In news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
Don Phillipson <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> typed:
> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
> 2. Extra RAM
> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
>
> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?


Maybe ... maybe not. Depends. But who cares as long as it's not a pirated
copy?

HTH,

Twayne
 
L

Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <4b600dc9$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, b@invalid.com says...
>
> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote
>
> > Since Activation is painless, even if you have to call, why are you
> > worried?

>
> Do you consider being interrogated by a Microsoft employee painless?
> It happened to me when I added a new HD for backup. Got a demand to
> reactivate, then the employee wanted to know why I was activating
> again, and what I did to cause it. Microsoft Australia.


Do you consider trolling in every one of your posts?

Activation works painlessly over the internet and with little pain over
the phone.

Having "activated" thousands of machines I have never had any "pain" in
doing it, the PAIN is normally something that anti-MS trolls post about.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
J

John Wunderlich

Flightless Bird
"Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in
news:unlp1#pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
> 2. Extra RAM
> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
>
> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
>


Microsoft explains it all here:

"Technical Details on Microsoft Product Activation for Windows XP"
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457054.aspx>

HTH,
John
 
K

Kim

Flightless Bird
I had to reinstall XP yesterday and was asked to reactivate and there`s been
no hardware changes to this machine.


"Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:-OVO0lm4nKHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> In news:unlp1%23pnKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
> Don Phillipson <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> typed:
>> Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
>> (WinXP Pro SP3) with:
>> 1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
>> 2. Extra RAM
>> 3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
>> 4. Adding a second hard drive.
>>
>> Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?

>
> Maybe ... maybe not. Depends. But who cares as long as it's not a pirated
> copy?
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne
>
>
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Flightless Bird
Mark Adams wrote:

> <>Yes, it's likely. But so what? Just reactivate.


sometimes it is not possible especially if you have used cracks to
activate first time round and now you can't find it!!! That is why the
question in the first place!!!
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Flightless Bird
Don Phillipson wrote:

>Am planning to pep up antique Compaq Presario 7000
>(WinXP Pro SP3) with:
>1. New DVD drive (replacing OEM)
>2. Extra RAM
>3. USB v.2 card to replace Bluetooth (unused)
>4. Adding a second hard drive.
>
>Is this likely to trigger an OS demand for reactivation?
>
>
>

Most probably not..

hth
 
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