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Why are a number of the newsgroups disappearing?

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by sheana, Jul 17, 2010.

  1. sheana

    sheana Flightless Bird

    Hi,

    I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I clicked
    on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that newsgroup was
    not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly helpful.
    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 07/17/2010 11:43 AM, sheana wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I
    > clicked on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that
    > newsgroup was not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    > communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly
    > helpful. Thanks in advance.


    They're history. MS wants you to go to their web forums where they can
    control the content and suppress free speech (and not to mention having
    a new Hotmail account they can sell to spammers as valid). Other news
    servers are still carrying MS groups but for how long is not known.

    --
    Alias
     
  3. SC Tom

    SC Tom Flightless Bird

    "sheana" <sheana@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    news:819EDD3B-7BC4-43AA-A263-0199F302A61B@microsoft.com...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I clicked
    > on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that newsgroup was
    > not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    > communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly
    > helpful. Thanks in advance.


    I'm truly surprised you haven't seen this on any newsgroup in the last few
    months:

    "What is Happening?
    This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing
    newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums.

    Why?
    As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the
    traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the
    past several years while customers and participants are increasingly finding
    solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. This
    move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier
    for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies and
    make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through
    improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam
    management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging a
    healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will
    begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology
    and discontinue support for newsgroups.

    In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those
    users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the
    newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge
    which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the
    forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP reader
    functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up the
    NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/

    Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown?
    All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and
    October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased approach,
    starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more
    active ones throughout the course of the next six months.


    Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
    In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup is
    scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to invite you
    to participate at
    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xphardware/threads
    forum(s). An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are finalized.

    Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to
    http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx

    Who Should I Contact with any Questions?
    Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to
    NNTP@microsoft.com "
     
  4. s-sandra@btconnect.com

    s-sandra@btconnect.com Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 05:43:08 -0400, just as I was about to take a
    herb, "sheana" <sheana@nospam.invalid> disturbed my reverie and wrote:

    >Hi,
    >
    >I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I clicked
    >on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that newsgroup was
    >not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    >communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly helpful.
    >Thanks in advance.


    It's aliens, run for the hills.
     
  5. sheana

    sheana Flightless Bird

    I haven't been reading the newsgroups lately. but since I will have to
    migrate to the forums, where are they? Thanks in advance.

    "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
    news:JOf0o.15489$Bh2.12359@newsfe04.iad...
    >
    > "sheana" <sheana@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:819EDD3B-7BC4-43AA-A263-0199F302A61B@microsoft.com...
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I
    >> clicked on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that
    >> newsgroup was not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    >> communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly
    >> helpful. Thanks in advance.

    >
    > I'm truly surprised you haven't seen this on any newsgroup in the last few
    > months:
    >
    > "What is Happening?
    > This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing
    > newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums.
    >
    > Why?
    > As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the
    > traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the
    > past several years while customers and participants are increasingly
    > finding
    > solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites.
    > This
    > move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it
    > easier
    > for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies
    > and
    > make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through
    > improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam
    > management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging
    > a
    > healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft
    > will
    > begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology
    > and discontinue support for newsgroups.
    >
    > In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those
    > users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the
    > newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge
    > which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the
    > forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP
    > reader
    > functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up
    > the
    > NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/
    >
    > Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown?
    > All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and
    > October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased
    > approach,
    > starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more
    > active ones throughout the course of the next six months.
    >
    >
    > Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
    > In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup is
    > scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to invite
    > you to participate at
    > http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xphardware/threads
    > forum(s). An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are finalized.
    >
    > Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to
    > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx
    >
    > Who Should I Contact with any Questions?
    > Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to
    > NNTP@microsoft.com "
     
  6. Ǝиçεl

    Ǝиçεl Flightless Bird

    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories

    "sheana" wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I clicked
    > on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that newsgroup was
    > not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    > communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly helpful.
    > Thanks in advance.
    >
    > .
    >
     
  7. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    sheana wrote:
    > I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I
    > clicked on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that
    > newsgroup was not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out
    > the communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them
    > incredibly helpful. Thanks in advance.


    SC Tom wrote:
    > I'm truly surprised you haven't seen this on any newsgroup in the
    > last few months:
    >
    > "What is Happening?
    > This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin
    > discontinuing newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft
    > forums.
    > Why?
    > As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now;
    > however, the traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily
    > decreasing for the past several years while customers and
    > participants are increasingly finding solutions in the forums on
    > Microsoft properties and third party sites. This move will unify
    > the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier for
    > active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate
    > redundancies and make the content easier to find by customers and
    > search engines through improved indexing. Additionally, forums
    > offer a better user and spam management platform that will improve
    > customer satisfaction by encouraging a healthy discussion in a
    > clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will begin to
    > progressively shift available resources to the forums technology
    > and discontinue support for newsgroups.
    > In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for
    > those users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to
    > participate in the newsgroups community, we have developed a
    > solution called the NNTP Bridge which allows a user to connect a
    > variety of supported NNTP readers to the forums they would like to
    > participate in and continue having the NTTP reader functionality. You can
    > find instructions on how to download and set up the NNTP
    > Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/
    > Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown?
    > All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1,
    > 2010 and October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in
    > a phased approach, starting with the least active newsgroups and
    > moving eventually to more active ones throughout the course of the
    > next six months.
    >
    > Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
    > In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup
    > is scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like
    > to invite you to participate at
    > http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xphardware/threads
    > forum(s). An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are
    > finalized.
    > Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to
    > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx
    >
    > Who Should I Contact with any Questions?
    > Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing
    > to NNTP@microsoft.com "


    sheana wrote:
    > I haven't been reading the newsgroups lately. but since I will have
    > to migrate to the forums, where are they? Thanks in advance.



    You obviously not only "haven't been reading the newsgroups lately" but do
    not bother to read the postings you reply to. ;-)

    Let me repeat what you replied to that tells you quite clearly where to go:

    > Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
    > In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup is
    > scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to invite
    > you to participate at
    > http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xphardware/threads
    > forum(s). An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are finalized.
    >
    > Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to
    > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx


    That help? ;-)

    If not - there was also a place listed in the reply to ask more questions.
    I will repeat that part now:

    > Who Should I Contact with any Questions?
    > Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing
    > to NNTP@microsoft.com "


    Hopefully that gets you where you need to go.

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  8. MapleE.

    MapleE. Flightless Bird

    I agree with OP, because I too have received incredible helpful and good
    solutions whenever I posted my queries over the years. Then, I truly miss
    all of those wonderful and selfless MS volutenterrs I've been reading for
    many years.

    My question is;
    All those 'terrific,' 'expert' and 'wonderful' volunteers have been
    migrating to all listed MS forums?

    Thanks,


    "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
    news:JOf0o.15489$Bh2.12359@newsfe04.iad...
    >
    > "sheana" <sheana@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:819EDD3B-7BC4-43AA-A263-0199F302A61B@microsoft.com...
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I
    >> clicked on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that
    >> newsgroup was not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    >> communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly
    >> helpful. Thanks in advance.

    >
    > I'm truly surprised you haven't seen this on any newsgroup in the last few
    > months:
    >
    > "What is Happening?
    > This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing
    > newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums.
    >
    > Why?
    > As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the
    > traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the
    > past several years while customers and participants are increasingly
    > finding
    > solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites.
    > This
    > move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it
    > easier
    > for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies
    > and
    > make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through
    > improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam
    > management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging
    > a
    > healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft
    > will
    > begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology
    > and discontinue support for newsgroups.
    >
    > In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those
    > users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the
    > newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge
    > which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the
    > forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP
    > reader
    > functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up
    > the
    > NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/
    >
    > Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown?
    > All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and
    > October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased
    > approach,
    > starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more
    > active ones throughout the course of the next six months.
    >
    >
    > Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
    > In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup is
    > scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to invite
    > you to participate at
    > http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xphardware/threads
    > forum(s). An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are finalized.
    >
    > Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to
    > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx
    >
    > Who Should I Contact with any Questions?
    > Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to
    > NNTP@microsoft.com "
     
  9. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    MapleE. wrote:
    > I agree with OP, because I too have received incredible helpful
    > and good solutions whenever I posted my queries over the years.
    > Then, I truly miss all of those wonderful and selfless MS
    > volutenterrs I've been reading for many years.
    >
    > My question is;
    > All those 'terrific,' 'expert' and 'wonderful' volunteers have been
    > migrating to all listed MS forums?


    Some. Some may dislike the different format enough to avoid going there
    ever. Some may try it for a while and then fade away. Others may just go
    to other newsgroups (or the same newsgroups hosted on free news servers.)

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  10. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    See...

    Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Communities:
    http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx

    Right now, this page lists the NGs that were dropped on June 1st:
    http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx

    Not listed are NGs dropped on Juy 1st, including your favorites IE General,
    OE General & Windows Update.

    You will find support for Internet Explorer in this MS forum now:
    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads

    You will find support for OE in this WinXP-specific forum:
    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpnetwork/threads


    You will find support for Windows Update in this MS forum:
    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads

    Always state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; WinXP 64-bit SP2;
    Vista SP1; Vista 64-bit SP2; Win7; Win7 64-bit) as well as your current IE
    version (e.g., IE6, IE7, IE8) in your first post in these forums, please.
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


    sheana wrote:
    > I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I clicked
    > on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that newsgroup was
    > not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    > communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly
    > helpful.
    > Thanks in advance.
     
  11. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Flightless Bird

    sheana wrote:

    > I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I clicked
    > on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that newsgroup was
    > not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    > communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly helpful.
    > Thanks in advance.


    Stop using Microsoft's NNTP server. Microsoft is abandoning their
    4-year experiment to attempt usurping the 30-year old Usenet. Connect
    your newsreader (Outlook Express) to another NNTP server. Many are
    free, like albasani and eternal-september, and some are very cheap, like
    individual.net ($16USD/yr). Netiner Usenet or the microsoft.public.*
    newsgroups are disappearing. It's Microsoft that's leaving Usenet.
     
  12. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    On Jul 17, 9:56 am, "MapleE." <someo...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > I agree with OP,  because I too have received incredible helpful and good
    > solutions  whenever I posted my queries over the years. Then, I truly miss
    > all of those wonderful and selfless MS volutenterrs I've been reading for
    > many years.
    >
    > My question is;
    > All those 'terrific,' 'expert' and 'wonderful'  volunteers have been
    > migrating to all listed MS forums?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > "SC Tom" <s...@tom.net> wrote in message
    >
    > news:JOf0o.15489$Bh2.12359@newsfe04.iad...
    >
    >
    >
    > > "sheana" <she...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    > >news:819EDD3B-7BC4-43AA-A263-0199F302A61B@microsoft.com...
    > >> Hi,

    >
    > >> I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I
    > >> clicked on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that
    > >> newsgroup was not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    > >> communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly
    > >> helpful. Thanks in advance.

    >
    > > I'm truly surprised you haven't seen this on any newsgroup in the last few
    > > months:

    >
    > > "What is Happening?
    > > This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing
    > > newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums.

    >
    > > Why?
    > > As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the
    > > traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the
    > > past several years while customers and participants are increasingly
    > > finding
    > > solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites.
    > > This
    > > move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it
    > > easier
    > > for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies
    > > and
    > > make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through
    > > improved indexing.  Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam
    > > management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging
    > > a
    > > healthy discussion in a clean community space.  To this end, Microsoft
    > > will
    > > begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology
    > > and discontinue support for newsgroups.

    >
    > > In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those
    > > users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the
    > > newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge
    > > which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the
    > > forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP
    > > reader
    > > functionality.  You can find instructions on how to download and set up
    > > the
    > > NNTP Bridge here:http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/

    >
    > > Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown?
    > > All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and
    > > October 1, 2010.  Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased
    > > approach,
    > > starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more
    > > active ones throughout the course of the next six months.

    >
    > > Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
    > > In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup is
    > > scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to invite
    > > you to participate at
    > >http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xphardware/threads
    > > forum(s).  An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are finalized.

    >
    > > Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to
    > >http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx

    >
    > > Who Should I Contact with any Questions?
    > > Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to
    > > N...@microsoft.com "


    The new forums present a very different and unique environment.

    You do get to accumulate points though and maybe when you get enough
    points, you get a medal or something.

    I am saving up my points for a pony (or maybe a new puppy).
     
  13. mm

    mm Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:47:27 -0400, "sheana" <sheana@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    >I haven't been reading the newsgroups lately. but since I will have to
    >migrate to the forums, where are they? Thanks in advance.


    I don't think you will have to migrate. Though the newsgroups that
    start with microsoft. have ms in their name, they are not the property
    of ms.

    I've been reading them for 15 years, and never used an MS server.
    For 10 years I used my ISP erols, for two weeks I used another ISP
    Verizon, for three months I used something related to ForteAgent, and
    for a couple years I've used eternal-september. It's free but there
    are servers with longer retetion times that cost 3 or 4 dollars a
    month. (and which carry binaries, that don't interest me.)

    Plus, and no offense meant, there are other windows newsgroups without
    MS in their names.

    The only problem I foresee is if too many posters move exclusively to
    MS forums. Even with high-speed access, I hate webforums -- Usenet
    works far better -- and I hope they won't move. There is nothing else
    as good as usenet and the people on it who help others.

    I think one way to discourage moving is if we all stay here, using
    another newsserver if necessary.

    Hmmm. I like VAnguard's answer better than mine.

    >"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
    >news:JOf0o.15489$Bh2.12359@newsfe04.iad...
    >>
    >> "sheana" <sheana@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:819EDD3B-7BC4-43AA-A263-0199F302A61B@microsoft.com...
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I
    >>> clicked on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that
    >>> newsgroup was not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    >>> communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly
    >>> helpful. Thanks in advance.

    >>
    >> I'm truly surprised you haven't seen this on any newsgroup in the last few
    >> months:
    >>
    >> "What is Happening?
    >> This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing
    >> newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums.
    >>
    >> Why?
    >> As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the
    >> traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the
    >> past several years while customers and participants are increasingly
    >> finding
    >> solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites.
    >> This
    >> move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it
    >> easier
    >> for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies
    >> and
    >> make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through
    >> improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam
    >> management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging
    >> a
    >> healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft
    >> will
    >> begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology
    >> and discontinue support for newsgroups.
    >>
    >> In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those
    >> users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the
    >> newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge
    >> which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the
    >> forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP
    >> reader
    >> functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up
    >> the
    >> NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/
    >>
    >> Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown?
    >> All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and
    >> October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased
    >> approach,
    >> starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more
    >> active ones throughout the course of the next six months.
    >>
    >>
    >> Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
    >> In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup is
    >> scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to invite
    >> you to participate at
    >> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xphardware/threads
    >> forum(s). An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are finalized.
    >>
    >> Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx
    >>
    >> Who Should I Contact with any Questions?
    >> Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to
    >> NNTP@microsoft.com "
     
  14. mm

    mm Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:24:11 -0700 (PDT), Jose <jose_ease@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    >
    >
    >The new forums present a very different and unique environment.
    >
    >You do get to accumulate points though and maybe when you get enough
    >points, you get a medal or something.
    >
    >I am saving up my points for a pony (or maybe a new puppy).


    I think with enough points they will give you VP 2.4, Virtual Pony.

    Once you turn off the monitor, you don't need to provide hay.
     
  15. Dave F.

    Dave F. Flightless Bird

    On 17/07/2010 23:49, mm wrote:
    > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:24:11 -0700 (PDT), Jose<jose_ease@yahoo.com>
    > wrote:


    > I think with enough points they will give you VP 2.4, Virtual Pony.


    You obviously didn't read the T&C's. They don't "give" you the pony just
    the right to use it until they decide to withdraw that right. :)
     
  16. sheana

    sheana Flightless Bird

    Where do I find these other NNTP servers?

    "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
    news:i1sgoa$mp2$1@news.albasani.net...
    > sheana wrote:
    >
    >> I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I
    >> clicked
    >> on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that newsgroup was
    >> not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    >> communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly
    >> helpful.
    >> Thanks in advance.

    >
    > Stop using Microsoft's NNTP server. Microsoft is abandoning their
    > 4-year experiment to attempt usurping the 30-year old Usenet. Connect
    > your newsreader (Outlook Express) to another NNTP server. Many are
    > free, like albasani and eternal-september, and some are very cheap, like
    > individual.net ($16USD/yr). Netiner Usenet or the microsoft.public.*
    > newsgroups are disappearing. It's Microsoft that's leaving Usenet.
     
  17. sheana

    sheana Flightless Bird

    I signed up for eternal-september, and when I got a list of their available
    newsgroups, I didn't see anything relating to MS products. I put configured
    my eternal-september account with the user id and pw they sent me, which
    they said was necessary to view all available newsgroups.

    I took a look at albasani, and used their contact form to request an
    account. So I'll have to wait on that.

    But how do I find the Microsoft groups on eternal-september?

    Which NNTP server are most of the MVP's migrating to?

    Thanks in advance,

    sheana

    "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
    news:i1sgoa$mp2$1@news.albasani.net...
    > sheana wrote:
    >
    >> I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I
    >> clicked
    >> on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that newsgroup was
    >> not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    >> communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly
    >> helpful.
    >> Thanks in advance.

    >
    > Stop using Microsoft's NNTP server. Microsoft is abandoning their
    > 4-year experiment to attempt usurping the 30-year old Usenet. Connect
    > your newsreader (Outlook Express) to another NNTP server. Many are
    > free, like albasani and eternal-september, and some are very cheap, like
    > individual.net ($16USD/yr). Netiner Usenet or the microsoft.public.*
    > newsgroups are disappearing. It's Microsoft that's leaving Usenet.
     
  18. Peter

    Peter Flightless Bird

    On 07/18/2010 12:59 PM, sheana wrote:
    > I signed up for eternal-september, and when I got a list of their
    > available newsgroups, I didn't see anything relating to MS products. I
    > put configured my eternal-september account with the user id and pw they
    > sent me, which they said was necessary to view all available newsgroups.
    >
    > I took a look at albasani, and used their contact form to request an
    > account. So I'll have to wait on that.
    >
    > But how do I find the Microsoft groups on eternal-september?
    >
    > Which NNTP server are most of the MVP's migrating to?
    >
    > Thanks in advance,
    >
    > sheana


    Did you try refreshing the newsgroups?

    --
    Peter
     
  19. NimbUs

    NimbUs Flightless Bird

    "sheana" <sheana@nospam.invalid> asked (partly snipped for brevity) :

    > But how do I find the Microsoft groups on eternal-september?

    See other messages in the thread, and see below...

    > Which NNTP server are most of the MVP's migrating to?


    Look Sheana, it doesn't matter much which NNTP server the MVPs (or
    you or me) are using; the way net news work, is any server (should)
    receive and present all of the articles - wherever each such was
    initially posted to. That's in the principle. In practice, some news
    servers might be better managed than others, have different policies
    (concerning retention delay, spam filtering, etc.). Also each news
    server on the planet has administrators who may choose not to reflect
    individual groups for whatever reasons. As a consequence, I don't
    know for sure that "eternel september" is broadcasting the ms.*
    groups or not (as I'm not using that server), but - since other
    knowledgeable responders have pointed you to that server - I would
    rather assume it has them.

    --
    NimbUs
     
  20. Jason S

    Jason S Flightless Bird

    On 2010-07-17 05:43:08 -0400, sheana said:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I subscribe to a number of MS newsgroups, but, for example, when I
    > clicked on the newsgroup for word.general I got a message that that
    > newsgroup was not available from the MS server. Is MS phasing out the
    > communities/newsgroups? Let me know, because I find them incredibly
    > helpful. Thanks in advance.


    I doubt they'll be removed from premium Usenet provider servers (i.e.
    Giganews, Usenetserver, etc.). As long as you're using a non-MS server,
    they'll still be around. However, Microsoft is not carrying them as
    their "official" newsgroups.

    --
    Jason
     

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