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Which is the best laptop in the town?

J

John Doue

Flightless Bird
On 4/16/2010 3:11 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
>
> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot!
>
> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm using. I
> spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and paid as much or
> more for it (or more) second-hand as I would have paid for a
> similarly-specced new (completely plastic) machine.
>
> It's an IBM / Lenovo (both logos on it) T60 2007-7KU. It has a matte finish
> 4:3 screen (you can keep your reflection-prone glossy screens and trendy
> widescreens thanks). Also, the screen is IPS technology (Google it if you
> don't know what it is) and relatively high resolution at 1400x1050 for a 15"
> screen. It's a treat to use, easy on the eyes, beautiful colours and simply
> awesome viewing angles. These IPS screens aren't used in full-sized laptops
> anymore as they're expensive to produce, requiring three times as many
> transistors as a TN panel, three per pixel rather than one. These days
> people buy on price and adding $500 for a top-of-the-line screen isn't
> feasible.
>
> The CPU is a T7400 2.16GHz Core2Duo (which is plenty fast enough for
> anything short of heavy-duty computing which should be done on 'heavy iron'
> anyway), is 64-bit capable and also has Intel's 'Virtualisation Technology'
> which could be essential for future OSes.
>
> The laptop itself has a magnesium-alloy chassis and feels reassuringly solid
> and robust, far more so than most laptops that are simply two pieces of
> plastic screwed together. The graphics processor is an ATI X1400 with 128MB
> of VRAM. While not a high-end gaming machine it's more than adequate for
> some of the older games that I play. (Again, like a laptop isn't made for
> heavy-duty number crunching (that's what high-power desktops and mainframes
> are for) it's not made for high-end gaming, (that's what gaming consoles are
> for).
>
> As an overall package the 15" T60 with the T7x00 CPU and the "FlexView" IPS
> screen is widely held as the best laptop ever made and they command a high
> price (if you can get one). It's probably not "cool" but it is a damn fine
> laptop.

I totally agree with the virtues of the Flexview display. Even though
my R51 is relatively slow, I will never move to anything of lower
quality in terms of display. Chances are I am "stuck" with my machine
for ever ... whatever that means when you are 68 as I!

Shaun, if you ever sell your machine, let me know!

--
John Doue
 
R

Roy

Flightless Bird
On Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@nospamyahoo.com.au>
wrote:
> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
>
> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot!
>
> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm using. I
> spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and paid as much or
> more for it (or more) second-hand as I would have paid for a
> similarly-specced new (completely plastic) machine.
>
> It's an IBM / Lenovo (both logos on it) T60 2007-7KU. It has a matte finish
> 4:3 screen (you can keep your reflection-prone glossy screens and trendy
> widescreens thanks). Also, the screen is IPS technology (Google it if you
> don't know what it is) and relatively high resolution at 1400x1050 for a 15"
> screen. It's a treat to use, easy on the eyes, beautiful colours and simply
> awesome viewing angles. These IPS screens aren't used in full-sized laptops
> anymore as they're expensive to produce, requiring three times as many
> transistors as a TN panel, three per pixel rather than one. These days
> people buy on price and adding $500 for a top-of-the-line screen isn't
> feasible.
>
> The CPU is a T7400 2.16GHz Core2Duo (which is plenty fast enough for
> anything short of heavy-duty computing which should be done on 'heavy iron'
> anyway), is 64-bit capable and also has Intel's 'Virtualisation Technology'
> which could be essential for future OSes.
>
> The laptop itself has a magnesium-alloy chassis and feels reassuringly solid
> and robust, far more so than most laptops that are simply two pieces of
> plastic screwed together. The graphics processor is an ATI X1400 with 128MB
> of VRAM. While not a high-end gaming machine it's more than adequate for
> some of the older games that I play. (Again, like a laptop isn't made for
> heavy-duty number crunching (that's what high-power desktops and mainframes
> are for) it's not made for high-end gaming, (that's what gaming consoles are
> for).
>
> As an overall package the 15" T60 with the T7x00 CPU and the "FlexView" IPS
> screen is widely held as the best laptop ever made and they command a high
> price (if you can get one). It's probably not "cool" but it is a damn fine
> laptop.
> --
> Shaun.
>
> "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson


Might be the best for an IBM Lenovo lover.....grin....
 
G

Ganesh

Flightless Bird
On Apr 16, 5:11 am, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@nospamyahoo.com.au>
wrote:
> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
>
> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot!
>
> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm using. I
> spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and paid as much or
> more for it (or more) second-hand as I would have paid for a
> similarly-specced new (completely plastic) machine.
>
> It's an IBM / Lenovo (both logos on it) T60 2007-7KU. It has a matte finish
> 4:3 screen (you can keep your reflection-prone glossy screens and trendy
> widescreens thanks). Also, the screen is IPS technology (Google it if you
> don't know what it is) and relatively high resolution at 1400x1050 for a 15"
> screen. It's a treat to use, easy on the eyes, beautiful colours and simply
> awesome viewing angles. These IPS screens aren't used in full-sized laptops
> anymore as they're expensive to produce, requiring three times as many
> transistors as a TN panel, three per pixel rather than one. These days
> people buy on price and adding $500 for a top-of-the-line screen isn't
> feasible.
>
> The CPU is a T7400 2.16GHz Core2Duo (which is plenty fast enough for
> anything short of heavy-duty computing which should be done on 'heavy iron'
> anyway), is 64-bit capable and also has Intel's 'Virtualisation Technology'
> which could be essential for future OSes.
>
> The laptop itself has a magnesium-alloy chassis and feels reassuringly solid
> and robust, far more so than most laptops that are simply two pieces of
> plastic screwed together. The graphics processor is an ATI X1400 with 128MB
> of VRAM. While not a high-end gaming machine it's more than adequate for
> some of the older games that I play. (Again, like a laptop isn't made for
> heavy-duty number crunching (that's what high-power desktops and mainframes
> are for) it's not made for high-end gaming, (that's what gaming consoles are
> for).
>
> As an overall package the 15" T60 with the T7x00 CPU and the "FlexView" IPS
> screen is widely held as the best laptop ever made and they command a high
> price (if you can get one). It's probably not "cool" but it is a damn fine
> laptop.
> --
> Shaun.
>


Is any company making standard sized Laptop components which allow low
priced upgrades? E.g. Keeping the size of the mother board and basic
inputs constant can help replace with newer versions.
 
M

~misfit~

Flightless Bird
Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
> On 4/16/2010 3:11 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
>>
>> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot!
>>
>> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
>> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and
>> paid as much or more for it (or more) second-hand as I would have
>> paid for a similarly-specced new (completely plastic) machine.
>>
>> It's an IBM / Lenovo (both logos on it) T60 2007-7KU. It has a matte
>> finish 4:3 screen (you can keep your reflection-prone glossy screens
>> and trendy widescreens thanks). Also, the screen is IPS technology
>> (Google it if you don't know what it is) and relatively high
>> resolution at 1400x1050 for a 15" screen. It's a treat to use, easy
>> on the eyes, beautiful colours and simply awesome viewing angles.
>> These IPS screens aren't used in full-sized laptops anymore as
>> they're expensive to produce, requiring three times as many
>> transistors as a TN panel, three per pixel rather than one. These
>> days people buy on price and adding $500 for a top-of-the-line
>> screen isn't feasible. The CPU is a T7400 2.16GHz Core2Duo (which is
>> plenty fast enough for
>> anything short of heavy-duty computing which should be done on
>> 'heavy iron' anyway), is 64-bit capable and also has Intel's
>> 'Virtualisation Technology' which could be essential for future OSes.
>>
>> The laptop itself has a magnesium-alloy chassis and feels
>> reassuringly solid and robust, far more so than most laptops that
>> are simply two pieces of plastic screwed together. The graphics
>> processor is an ATI X1400 with 128MB of VRAM. While not a high-end
>> gaming machine it's more than adequate for some of the older games
>> that I play. (Again, like a laptop isn't made for heavy-duty number
>> crunching (that's what high-power desktops and mainframes are for)
>> it's not made for high-end gaming, (that's what gaming consoles are
>> for). As an overall package the 15" T60 with the T7x00 CPU and the
>> "FlexView" IPS screen is widely held as the best laptop ever made
>> and they command a high price (if you can get one). It's probably
>> not "cool" but it is a damn fine laptop.

> I totally agree with the virtues of the Flexview display. Even though
> my R51 is relatively slow, I will never move to anything of lower
> quality in terms of display. Chances are I am "stuck" with my machine
> for ever ... whatever that means when you are 68 as I!
>
> Shaun, if you ever sell your machine, let me know!


If that day comes it'll be snowing in hell and pigs will be flying. However
I'll be sure to let you know. <g>

I still have my R51 with a SXGA+ FlexView as a back-up machine (or maybe a
display-donor if anything happens to my T60 display, research on
forums.thinkpad suggest that the R51 display will work in the T60).

Hehee! A while back I managed to snag an 18 month-old 20" Dell 'Ultrasharp'
4:3 desktop monitor, one of the IPS ones, UXGA in excellent condition, for
NZ$180. I remember when they were released at around NZ$1K, reading reviews
of them, and the ensuing 'Dell lottery' when Dell started selling some with
S-PVA panels. (The only way to tell for sure what panel you have fitted is
from the serial number.)

Imagine my surprise on researching the Dell to discover that it's still sold
here at $750 new, but there's talk that they even fit TN panels to some of
them now. Although I rarely use my 'heavy iron' it's a real treat to look at
this awesome monitor in action.

IPS rules! Anything less is a poor compromise.
--
Cheers,
Shaun.

"When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson
 
M

~misfit~

Flightless Bird
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Ganesh wrote:
> On Apr 16, 5:11 am, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@nospamyahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
>>
>> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot!
>>
>> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
>> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and
>> paid as much or more for it (or more) second-hand as I would have
>> paid for a similarly-specced new (completely plastic) machine.
>>
>> It's an IBM / Lenovo (both logos on it) T60 2007-7KU. It has a matte
>> finish 4:3 screen (you can keep your reflection-prone glossy screens
>> and trendy widescreens thanks). Also, the screen is IPS technology
>> (Google it if you don't know what it is) and relatively high
>> resolution at 1400x1050 for a 15" screen. It's a treat to use, easy
>> on the eyes, beautiful colours and simply awesome viewing angles.
>> These IPS screens aren't used in full-sized laptops anymore as
>> they're expensive to produce, requiring three times as many
>> transistors as a TN panel, three per pixel rather than one. These
>> days people buy on price and adding $500 for a top-of-the-line
>> screen isn't feasible.
>>
>> The CPU is a T7400 2.16GHz Core2Duo (which is plenty fast enough for
>> anything short of heavy-duty computing which should be done on
>> 'heavy iron' anyway), is 64-bit capable and also has Intel's
>> 'Virtualisation Technology' which could be essential for future OSes.
>>
>> The laptop itself has a magnesium-alloy chassis and feels
>> reassuringly solid and robust, far more so than most laptops that
>> are simply two pieces of plastic screwed together. The graphics
>> processor is an ATI X1400 with 128MB of VRAM. While not a high-end
>> gaming machine it's more than adequate for some of the older games
>> that I play. (Again, like a laptop isn't made for heavy-duty number
>> crunching (that's what high-power desktops and mainframes are for)
>> it's not made for high-end gaming, (that's what gaming consoles are
>> for).
>>
>> As an overall package the 15" T60 with the T7x00 CPU and the
>> "FlexView" IPS screen is widely held as the best laptop ever made
>> and they command a high price (if you can get one). It's probably
>> not "cool" but it is a damn fine laptop.

>
> Is any company making standard sized Laptop components which allow low
> priced upgrades? E.g. Keeping the size of the mother board and basic
> inputs constant can help replace with newer versions.


To a certain extent, yes, amongst their own range. I read forums.thinkpad a
lot and there are several accounts of 'FrankenPads" where people have put
different planars (motherboards) into machines from different model ranges.
I know a guy who made a FrankenPad actually, he wanted a combo of features
that wasn't available from IBM / Lenovo so fitted a planar from a different
model to his machine.

I've built up two ThinkPads myself from parts bought on NZ's version of ebay
(Trademe.co.nz), starting with simply a 'base', which contains a planar.
People buy bases as donors for laptops that are BIOS locked. It's next to
impossible to defeat a ThinkPad's password lock feature (unlike a recent
Toshiba that I unlocked the other day which just needed a 'jumper' shorted
on power-up) so there are people who sell 'bases' for different models. I
had spares for my R40 and also for my R51 so I ended up buying a base for
each, then using some of my spares plus buying parts and built up working
machines.
--
Shaun.

"When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson
 
M

~misfit~

Flightless Bird
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Roy wrote:
> On Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@nospamyahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
>>
>> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot!
>>
>> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
>> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and
>> paid as much or more for it (or more) second-hand as I would have
>> paid for a similarly-specced new (completely plastic) machine.
>>
>> It's an IBM / Lenovo (both logos on it) T60 2007-7KU. It has a matte
>> finish 4:3 screen (you can keep your reflection-prone glossy screens
>> and trendy widescreens thanks). Also, the screen is IPS technology
>> (Google it if you don't know what it is) and relatively high
>> resolution at 1400x1050 for a 15" screen. It's a treat to use, easy
>> on the eyes, beautiful colours and simply awesome viewing angles.
>> These IPS screens aren't used in full-sized laptops anymore as
>> they're expensive to produce, requiring three times as many
>> transistors as a TN panel, three per pixel rather than one. These
>> days people buy on price and adding $500 for a top-of-the-line
>> screen isn't feasible.
>>
>> The CPU is a T7400 2.16GHz Core2Duo (which is plenty fast enough for
>> anything short of heavy-duty computing which should be done on
>> 'heavy iron' anyway), is 64-bit capable and also has Intel's
>> 'Virtualisation Technology' which could be essential for future OSes.
>>
>> The laptop itself has a magnesium-alloy chassis and feels
>> reassuringly solid and robust, far more so than most laptops that
>> are simply two pieces of plastic screwed together. The graphics
>> processor is an ATI X1400 with 128MB of VRAM. While not a high-end
>> gaming machine it's more than adequate for some of the older games
>> that I play. (Again, like a laptop isn't made for heavy-duty number
>> crunching (that's what high-power desktops and mainframes are for)
>> it's not made for high-end gaming, (that's what gaming consoles are
>> for).
>>
>> As an overall package the 15" T60 with the T7x00 CPU and the
>> "FlexView" IPS screen is widely held as the best laptop ever made
>> and they command a high price (if you can get one). It's probably
>> not "cool" but it is a damn fine laptop.
>> --
>> Shaun.
>>
>> "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson

>
> Might be the best for an IBM Lenovo lover.....grin....


Well, if you're talking the best laptop and you're not an Apple-head then
you'd be wise to become an IBM / Lenovo lover.

Unless, as I said, you want to play high-end games, in which case get a
console.
--
Cheers.
Shaun.

"When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson
 
G

Ganesh

Flightless Bird
which is best laptop to play highend graphic games

~misfit~ wrote:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Roy wrote:
> > On Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~"wrote:
> >> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
> >> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot
> >> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
> >> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and
> >> paid as much or more for it (or more) second-hand as I would have
> >> paid for a similarly-specced new (complet
 
R

Roy

Flightless Bird
On Apr 18, 7:45 am, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@nospamyahoo.com.au>
wrote:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Roy wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@nospamyahoo.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]

>
> >> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot!

>
> >> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
> >> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and
> >> paid as much or more for it (or more) second-hand as I would have
> >> paid for a similarly-specced new (completely plastic) machine.

>
> >> It's an IBM / Lenovo (both logos on it) T60 2007-7KU. It has a matte
> >> finish 4:3 screen (you can keep your reflection-prone glossy screens
> >> and trendy widescreens thanks). Also, the screen is IPS technology
> >> (Google it if you don't know what it is) and relatively high
> >> resolution at 1400x1050 for a 15" screen. It's a treat to use, easy
> >> on the eyes, beautiful colours and simply awesome viewing angles.
> >> These IPS screens aren't used in full-sized laptops anymore as
> >> they're expensive to produce, requiring three times as many
> >> transistors as a TN panel, three per pixel rather than one. These
> >> days people buy on price and adding $500 for a top-of-the-line
> >> screen isn't feasible.

>
> >> The CPU is a T7400 2.16GHz Core2Duo (which is plenty fast enough for
> >> anything short of heavy-duty computing which should be done on
> >> 'heavy iron' anyway), is 64-bit capable and also has Intel's
> >> 'Virtualisation Technology' which could be essential for future OSes.

>
> >> The laptop itself has a magnesium-alloy chassis and feels
> >> reassuringly solid and robust, far more so than most laptops that
> >> are simply two pieces of plastic screwed together. The graphics
> >> processor is an ATI X1400 with 128MB of VRAM. While not a high-end
> >> gaming machine it's more than adequate for some of the older games
> >> that I play. (Again, like a laptop isn't made for heavy-duty number
> >> crunching (that's what high-power desktops and mainframes are for)
> >> it's not made for high-end gaming, (that's what gaming consoles are
> >> for).

>
> >> As an overall package the 15" T60 with the T7x00 CPU and the
> >> "FlexView" IPS screen is widely held as the best laptop ever made
> >> and they command a high price (if you can get one). It's probably
> >> not "cool" but it is a damn fine laptop.
> >> --
> >> Shaun.

>
> >> "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson

>
> > Might be the best for an IBM Lenovo lover.....grin....

>
> Well, if you're talking the best laptop and you're not an Apple-head then
> you'd be wise to become an IBM / Lenovo lover.
>
> Unless, as I said, you want to play high-end games, in which case get a
> console.
> --
> Cheers.
> Shaun.
>
> "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Unless LenovO will DRASTICALLY improve their appearance, they will
never get appreciation.. AS INDEED THEY ARE FUCKINGLY UGLY.....!
 
R

Roy

Flightless Bird
On Apr 18, 3:11 pm, Ganesh <ganeshjacha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> which is best laptop to play highend graphic games
>
>
>
> ~misfit~ wrote:
> > Somewhere on teh intarwebs Roy wrote:
> > > On Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~"wrote:
> > >> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
> > >> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot
> > >> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
> > >> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and
> > >> paid as much or more for it (or more) second-hand as I would have
> > >> paid for a similarly-specced new (complet- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Ganesh I think you should read more about laptops as there are many
choices to make depending on your budget and manufacturers
preference....
 
R

Roy

Flightless Bird
On Apr 18, 4:56 pm, Roy <royba...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Unless LenovO will  DRASTICALLY improve their appearance, they will
> never get appreciation.. -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Correction....

What I mean is they will never get my appreciation..nor preference....
 
G

Ganesh

Flightless Bird
i do not understand what is required to run games better. could anyone
explain what to look for.

Roy:
>Apr 18, 3:11 pm, Ganesh:
> > which is best laptop to play highend graphic games
> > ~misfit:
> > >Roy wrote:
> > > > Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~":
> > > >> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
> > > >> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot
> > > >> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
> > > >> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and
 
R

Roy

Flightless Bird
On Apr 18, 6:22 pm, Ganesh <ganeshjacha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i do not understand what is required to run games better. could anyone
> explain what to look for.
>
> Roy:
>
>
>
> >Apr 18, 3:11 pm, Ganesh:
> > > which is best laptop to play highend graphic games
> > > ~misfit:
> > > >Roy wrote:
> > > > > Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~":
> > > > >> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
> > > > >> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot
> > > > >> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
> > > > >> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


There are many factors that can make a pc run games better, sufficient
CPU processing power, dedicated graphics, sufficient RAM, etc..if that
is the case you have to study more about PC hardware...
 
M

~misfit~

Flightless Bird
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Roy wrote:
> On Apr 18, 4:56 pm, Roy <royba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson-
>>> Hide quoted text -

>>
>>> - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Unless LenovO will DRASTICALLY improve their appearance, they will
>> never get appreciation.. -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

> Correction....
>
> What I mean is they will never get my appreciation..nor preference....


Yeah, it's good. Any burglar in a hurry is going to grab the bling bling
crap HP, Dell, Sony, Toshiba or Compaq and leave the serious hardware alone.

The ThinkPad is like the Model T Ford, you can have any colour you want as
long as it's black.
--
Shaun.

"When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson
 
M

~misfit~

Flightless Bird
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Ganesh wrote:
> which is best laptop to play highend graphic games
>
> ~misfit~ wrote:
>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Roy wrote:
>>> On Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~"wrote:
>>>> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
>>>> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot
>>>> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
>>>> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and
>>>> paid as much or more for it (or more) second-hand as I would have
>>>> paid for a similarly-specced new (complet


Alienware.

http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/note...efid=laptop-alienware-m17x&s=dhs&cs=19&~ck=mn

--
Shaun.

"When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson
 
R

Roy

Flightless Bird
On Apr 18, 6:49 pm, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@nospamyahoo.com.au>
wrote:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Roy wrote:
>
> > On Apr 18, 4:56 pm, Roy <royba...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> >>> "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson-
> >>> Hide quoted text -

>
> >>> - Show quoted text -

>
> >> Unless LenovO will DRASTICALLY improve their appearance, they will
> >> never get appreciation.. -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

> > Correction....

>
> > What I mean is they will never get my appreciation..nor preference....

>
> Yeah, it's good. Any burglar in a hurry is going to grab the bling bling
> crap HP, Dell, Sony, Toshiba or Compaq and leave the serious hardware alone.
>
> The ThinkPad is like the Model T Ford, you can have any colour you want as
> long as it's black.
> --
> Shaun.
>
> "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson


Dunno shaun....just lately an sales agent tried convince me to buy
the workstation W700ds with double screen....If that item was made my
Sony or Apple it could have been irresistible that I will get it
immediately...
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:hqeo3s$mis$1@news.eternal-september.org,
~misfit~ typed on Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:49:27 +1200:
> Yeah, it's good. Any burglar in a hurry is going to grab the bling
> bling crap HP, Dell, Sony, Toshiba or Compaq and leave the serious
> hardware alone.
> The ThinkPad is like the Model T Ford, you can have any colour you
> want as long as it's black.


You really believe Thinkpads are better than other laptop manufactures?
As I have never found evidence to support this claim. Even Consumer
Reports which is supposed to be unbiased, never gave Thinkpads high
marks for being any different than average.

And I have followed IBM for decades and IBM always fails when they are
forced to compete. Which I blame on poor business practices and making
too many promises to customers that they know they can't keep. As IBM is
a tiny shell of once it was been. As IBM was once the computer company
that customers could trust their products were the best. Although they
chipped away all of that trust over decades of abuse and now they are
almost a nobody today. Pretty sad seeing a once great company run itself
down to the ground like that.

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2
 
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Roy

Flightless Bird
On Apr 18, 7:40 pm, "BillW50" <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote:
> Innews:hqeo3s$mis$1@news.eternal-september.org,
> ~misfit~ typed on Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:49:27 +1200:
>
> > Yeah, it's good. Any burglar in a hurry is going to grab the bling
> > bling crap HP, Dell, Sony, Toshiba or Compaq and leave the serious
> > hardware alone.
> > The ThinkPad is like the Model T Ford, you can have any colour you
> > want as long as it's black.

>
> You really believe Thinkpads are better than other laptop manufactures?
> As I have never found evidence to support this claim. Even Consumer
> Reports which is supposed to be unbiased, never gave Thinkpads high
> marks for being any different than average.
>
> And I have followed IBM for decades and IBM always fails when they are
> forced to compete. Which I blame on poor business practices and making
> too many promises to customers that they know they can't keep. As IBM is
> a tiny shell of once it was been. As IBM was once the computer company
> that customers could trust their products were the best. Although they
> chipped away all of that trust over decades of abuse and now they are
> almost a nobody today. Pretty sad seeing a once great company run itself
> down to the ground like that.
>
> --
> Bill
> Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2


That is why an IBM Lenovo loyalist can be compared to a an adage , '
that having a face only a mother could love ....'
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
Roy wrote on Sun, 18 Apr 2010 05:45:09 -0700 (PDT):
> On Apr 18, 7:40 pm, "BillW50" <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote:
>> Innews:hqeo3s$mis$1@news.eternal-september.org,
>> ~misfit~ typed on Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:49:27 +1200:
>>
>>> Yeah, it's good. Any burglar in a hurry is going to grab the bling
>>> bling crap HP, Dell, Sony, Toshiba or Compaq and leave the serious
>>> hardware alone.
>>> The ThinkPad is like the Model T Ford, you can have any colour you
>>> want as long as it's black.

>> You really believe Thinkpads are better than other laptop manufactures?
>> As I have never found evidence to support this claim. Even Consumer
>> Reports which is supposed to be unbiased, never gave Thinkpads high
>> marks for being any different than average.
>>
>> And I have followed IBM for decades and IBM always fails when they are
>> forced to compete. Which I blame on poor business practices and making
>> too many promises to customers that they know they can't keep. As IBM is
>> a tiny shell of once it was been. As IBM was once the computer company
>> that customers could trust their products were the best. Although they
>> chipped away all of that trust over decades of abuse and now they are
>> almost a nobody today. Pretty sad seeing a once great company run itself
>> down to the ground like that.
>>
>> --
>> Bill
>> Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2

>
> That is why an IBM Lenovo loyalist can be compared to a an adage , '
> that having a face only a mother could love ....'


lol You are bad! ;-)

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)
 
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Ganesh

Flightless Bird
On Apr 18, 3:51 pm, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@nospamyahoo.com.au>
wrote:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Ganesh wrote:
>
> > which is best laptop to play highend graphic games

>
> > ~misfit~ wrote:
> >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Roy wrote:
> >>> On Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~"wrote:
> >>>> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
> >>>> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot
> >>>> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
> >>>> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and
> >>>> paid as much or more for it (or more) second-hand as I would have
> >>>> paid for a similarly-specced new (complet

>
> Alienware.
>
> http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebooks/laptop-alienware-m17x/pd.asp...
>


That Laptop (Mobile Desktop) is wonderful.

Pros: Everything that's near to my dream laptop
Cons: 5.5 Kgs, 17"

> --
> Shaun.
>
> "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson
 
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Roy

Flightless Bird
On Apr 18, 10:25 pm, BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote:
> Roy wrote on Sun, 18 Apr 2010 05:45:09 -0700 (PDT):
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 18, 7:40 pm, "BillW50" <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote:
> >> Innews:hqeo3s$mis$1@news.eternal-september.org,
> >> ~misfit~ typed on Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:49:27 +1200:

>
> >>> Yeah, it's good. Any burglar in a hurry is going to grab the bling
> >>> bling crap HP, Dell, Sony, Toshiba or Compaq and leave the serious
> >>> hardware alone.
> >>> The ThinkPad is like the Model T Ford, you can have any colour you
> >>> want as long as it's black.
> >> You really believe Thinkpads are better than other laptop manufactures?
> >> As I have never found evidence to support this claim. Even Consumer
> >> Reports which is supposed to be unbiased, never gave Thinkpads high
> >> marks for being any different than average.

>
> >> And I have followed IBM for decades and IBM always fails when they are
> >> forced to compete. Which I blame on poor business practices and making
> >> too many promises to customers that they know they can't keep. As IBM is
> >> a tiny shell of once it was been. As IBM was once the computer company
> >> that customers could trust their products were the best. Although they
> >> chipped away all of that trust over decades of abuse and now they are
> >> almost a nobody today. Pretty sad seeing a once great company run itself
> >> down to the ground like that.

>
> >> --
> >> Bill
> >> Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2

>
> > That is why an IBM Lenovo loyalist can be compared to a an adage , '
> > that  having  a face only a mother could love ....'

>
> lol You are bad! ;-)
>
> --
> Bill
> Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
> Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Sorry Bill , not meant to say that Lenovo lovers are ugly......
what I meant here really, is that all Lenovo Laptop PCs have an
appearance 'only a mother could love'......grin..

No matter how I look at it, I just can't stand using a machine that I
can't stand its form factor.......
As I mentioned in the past , getting notebook is like having mistress
( or possibly a wife...grin...) It will become part of your daily
life,( its your constant company your tool for work , for leisure
etc ) and if you can't stand how it look do you think you would be
happy using it....?

And the latest casualty was this workstation W700ds...as I was hunting
for a workstation portable PC.

... Yes it has the power, and I am sure I can afford that beast, but
deep seated issue that have bothered me with Lenovo units .
i.e ...its appearance......
If it was only been made by Sony, it would have been such a beauty as
these people really know how to put such unit in really astounding
form .....

Roy
 
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