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Where are folder Options in W-7

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Valorie *~~, Sep 19, 2010.

  1. Valorie *~~

    Valorie *~~ Flightless Bird

    In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down OS
    missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on in
    W-7?

    W-7/SP2/Home Premium
     
  2. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 9/16/2010 7:47 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    > In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    > Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down
    > OS missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on
    > in W-7?
    >
    > W-7/SP2/Home Premium...


    ....there is no such OS "W-7/SP2/Home Premium".

    Are you running Vista/SP2? Did you come from XP?
    For folder options go to Control Panel/Folder Options.
     
  3. Barking

    Barking Flightless Bird

    In article <4c92d703@news.x-privat.org>, Valorie *~~
    <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> said...
    >
    > In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    > Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down OS
    > missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on in
    > W-7?
    >

    First google hit:

    http://malektips.com/windows-7-explorer-toggle-menu-bar.html
     
  4. Valorie *~~

    Valorie *~~ Flightless Bird

    "Frank" <fb@win7x32.esd> wrote in message news:4c92ede3@news.x-privat.org...
    > On 9/16/2010 7:47 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    >> In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    >> Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down
    >> OS missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on
    >> in W-7?
    >>
    >> W-7/SP2/Home Premium...

    >
    > ...there is no such OS "W-7/SP2/Home Premium".


    You're right.

    >
    > Are you running Vista/SP2? Did you come from XP?
    > For folder options go to Control Panel/Folder Options.


    I'm talking about the new W-7 PC.

    >
    >
     
  5. Stan Brown

    Stan Brown Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:47:45 -0500, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    >
    > In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    > Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down OS
    > missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on in
    > W-7?


    My answer is "Right where they always were, at the top of the
    window." If you don't see them, then I guess it's possible to
    suppress them in Windows 7 but I can't imagine how you did it.

    > W-7/SP2/Home Premium


    Please stop posting an impossible OS identification. If you have
    Windows 7 then you *don't* have SP2.

    --
    Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
    http://OakRoadSystems.com
    Shikata ga nai...
     
  6. Valorie *~~

    Valorie *~~ Flightless Bird

    "Barking" <not@to.me> wrote in message
    news:MPG.26fc9299ad6ee1a4989687@news.astraweb.com...
    > In article <4c92d703@news.x-privat.org>, Valorie *~~
    > <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> said...
    >>
    >> In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    >> Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down
    >> OS
    >> missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on in
    >> W-7?
    >>

    > First google hit:
    >
    > http://malektips.com/windows-7-explorer-toggle-menu-bar.html


    Thank you. This is totally crazy what MS did. A total newbie wouldn't even
    think to ask. These changes are useless and of no benefit at all. How do
    people even know what to Google for. I see there are no extensions on many
    files. What the hell is the point of removing the extensions? I can't tell
    if they're jpgs or Gifs on W-7. God an I ever sorry I bought that PC
    w/W-7. It never took me more than a day to get a PC up and running. This
    is the *&^%$#@ pits. >:-(
     
  7. SC Tom

    SC Tom Flightless Bird

    "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:4c937f19@news.x-privat.org...
    > "Barking" <not@to.me> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.26fc9299ad6ee1a4989687@news.astraweb.com...
    >> In article <4c92d703@news.x-privat.org>, Valorie *~~
    >> <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> said...
    >>>
    >>> In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    >>> Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down
    >>> OS
    >>> missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on in
    >>> W-7?
    >>>

    >> First google hit:
    >>
    >> http://malektips.com/windows-7-explorer-toggle-menu-bar.html

    >
    > Thank you. This is totally crazy what MS did. A total newbie wouldn't
    > even think to ask. These changes are useless and of no benefit at all.
    > How do people even know what to Google for. I see there are no
    > extensions on many files. What the hell is the point of removing the
    > extensions? I can't tell if they're jpgs or Gifs on W-7. God an I ever
    > sorry I bought that PC w/W-7. It never took me more than a day to get a
    > PC up and running. This is the *&^%$#@ pits. >:-(
    >

    Did you not use any Windows OS since Win95 Original Edition? Most of these
    options have been around for a very long time, and the method to get to them
    is not all that different.
    --
    SC Tom
    -There's no such thing as TMI when asking for tech support.
     
  8. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 17 Sep 2010, "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in
    alt.windows7.general:

    > How do people even know what to Google for.


    http://www.google.com/search?q="windows+7"+"folder+options"

    Seems pretty logical to me.

    > I see there are no extensions on many files. What the hell is the
    > point of removing the extensions? I can't tell if they're jpgs or
    > Gifs on W-7.


    It's been that way since Windows 95 or earlier. That was 15 years
    ago.

    > God an I ever sorry I bought that PC w/W-7. It never took me more
    > than a day to get a PC up and running. This is the *&^%$#@ pits.
    > >:-(


    I get the impression you'd complain no matter what.

    I agree that some of the changes in the Vista/Windows7 seem
    arbitrary, but the functionality is still there. If the interface
    didn't change, people would have been complaining that it looked
    old-fashioned. You just have to learn it, just like you had to learn
    Windows 3 after using DOS, or Windows 95 after learning Windows 3,
    or Windows XP after Windows 95/98/ME/2000.
     
  9. Helroy

    Helroy Flightless Bird

    ?"Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:4c937f19@news.x-privat.org...
    "Barking" <not@to.me> wrote in message
    news:MPG.26fc9299ad6ee1a4989687@news.astraweb.com...
    > In article <4c92d703@news.x-privat.org>, Valorie *~~
    > <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> said...
    >>
    >> In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    >> Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down
    >> OS
    >> missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on in
    >> W-7?
    >>

    > First google hit:
    >
    > http://malektips.com/windows-7-explorer-toggle-menu-bar.html


    Thank you. This is totally crazy what MS did. A total newbie wouldn't even
    think to ask. These changes are useless and of no benefit at all. How do
    people even know what to Google for. I see there are no extensions on many
    files. What the hell is the point of removing the extensions? I can't tell
    if they're jpgs or Gifs on W-7. God an I ever sorry I bought that PC
    w/W-7. It never took me more than a day to get a PC up and running. This
    is the *&^%$#@ pits. >:-(



    Quit trolling and buy yourself a book called:
    *Windows for Dummies.*

    --
    Hëlröy
     
  10. John Ferrell

    John Ferrell Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:48:28 -0400, "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote:

    [snip...]
    >Did you not use any Windows OS since Win95 Original Edition? Most of these
    >options have been around for a very long time, and the method to get to them
    >is not all that different.


    I like w7!
    Having said that:
    It would be nice to have an GUI that would allow simple customizing of
    the user interface along with the quick switch available that would
    allow using the current Windows operating GUI.

    That way I would not have to spend so much time hunting for
    incantations that I know are there, just not where.

    I could then keep a simplified GUI for my clients (family & friends)
    who just want to do the common uses on the computer.

    My first big question when I went to W7 was how to find my way back to
    the desktop. After Goggling and chasing the answers I found an app
    that I could keep on the task bar that did the job. A few weeks later
    I stumbled onto the "hidden" button on the lower right corner of the
    screen. When my grand daughter brought her fiance to meet the family I
    proudly showed him what I had discovered. Then he showed me the "hot
    Key" way back to the Desktop.

    After a split second of embarrassment I recovered and promptly
    notified him that I was renaming him "Keeper". I wish that they lived
    closer.

    I think this scenario is typical. I am not a green rookie. I have been
    living and breathing computers since they were constructed with vacuum
    tubes and relays. The inflexible interfaces we continue to struggle
    are both artificial and unnecessary.

    I have no real problem with using the New Office GUI's other than a
    lot of my clients are really just wanting to get the job done, they
    are more than annoyed that they are expected to learn new interfaces
    that do the "same old stuff"!

    Being in the business means that whatever is being used is what I need
    to know so I really don't care what dumb changes are made. I will, as
    always, try to get on top of the problems as quickly as possible. You
    don't have to be smart to deal with these thins, just committed.

    So go ahead and hide the important stuff, we will figure it out
    eventually. But, it is an area that your competition exploit to take
    your business. The number one reason I hear from those who jump to
    Apple is that it is easier to use...

    John Ferrell W8CCW
     
  11. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:4c92f475@news.x-privat.org...
    > "Frank" <fb@win7x32.esd> wrote in message
    > news:4c92ede3@news.x-privat.org...
    >> On 9/16/2010 7:47 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    >>> In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    >>> Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down
    >>> OS missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on
    >>> in W-7?
    >>>
    >>> W-7/SP2/Home Premium...

    >>
    >> ...there is no such OS "W-7/SP2/Home Premium".

    >
    > You're right.
    >>
    >> Are you running Vista/SP2? Did you come from XP?
    >> For folder options go to Control Panel/Folder Options.

    >
    > I'm talking about the new W-7 PC.
    >>

    >
    >


    I have followed this thread with interest. You appear to be the only other
    person here who has noticed that email software is becoming worse. I don't
    know why that is, (I am fairly sure Microsoft made wlm deliberately not good
    because of the monopoly stuff; of course Usenet is I suppose disliked by
    'the authorities' so they hope it is dying out. My ISP does not even
    provide Usenet access.

    For me, Windows 7 is hugely different from my previous version, XP, but I
    realise that it is actually very customizable and the security gives good
    options but mystifying to most people I suspect. Computer security is
    extremely complex and needs a big effort of studying and then planning
    before setting up a system how one wants it.

    It might not be long before you decide to try some backup software and then
    you will rapidly revise upwards your opinions of all previous software:
    Windows 7 backup is great on paper, the best by far, but it does not
    actually work, and all the others I have tried have been junk and it has put
    me off paying money for one - I am a determined type though and will find
    the answer. I am fairly sure that they want us to pay for cloud storage so
    they try to nudge us onto it.

    Remember how you liked Outlook Express and it did what you want without all
    that damn tedious logging in and long waits while things churned away, and
    the other stuff you liked? Well, you will at some time in the future change
    to Windows 9 (having given 8 a miss) and you will bitch and moan about the
    new stuff and wish it was as good as what you are now moaning about.
     
  12. Jeff Layman

    Jeff Layman Flightless Bird

    On 17/09/2010 17:50, johnbee wrote:

    > I have followed this thread with interest. You appear to be the only
    > other person here who has noticed that email software is becoming worse.


    _All_ software is becoming worse because the only way to sell it is by
    adding new features, most of which are unnecessary. It's only when
    you've installed it do you realise it is not as efficient as the
    previous version, and you have to spend hours trying to work out how to
    return it to a semblance of its previous self which you can actually use.

    > For me, Windows 7 is hugely different from my previous version, XP, but
    > I realise that it is actually very customizable and the security gives
    > good options but mystifying to most people I suspect. Computer security
    > is extremely complex and needs a big effort of studying and then
    > planning before setting up a system how one wants it.


    ISTM that MS have changed some things just for the sake of changing
    them, and it is not easy to change them back without registry hacks. So
    I think the main problem is that it is not simply customisable where you
    want it to be! Win7's security is pretty good. UAC is a bit of a
    nuisance at times, but I leave it alone as it is a useful security device.

    > It might not be long before you decide to try some backup software and
    > then you will rapidly revise upwards your opinions of all previous
    > software: Windows 7 backup is great on paper, the best by far, but it
    > does not actually work, and all the others I have tried have been junk
    > and it has put me off paying money for one - I am a determined type
    > though and will find the answer. I am fairly sure that they want us to
    > pay for cloud storage so they try to nudge us onto it.


    MS have never got backup working properly. It works in Win7, but takes
    hours. Anyway, backup isn't the only thing - it's the restore which
    everything hangs on! I used Acronis for XP, but never had to use
    restore, and use Easeus for Win7, but haven't tried to restore yet.

    > Remember how you liked Outlook Express and it did what you want without
    > all that damn tedious logging in and long waits while things churned
    > away, and the other stuff you liked? Well, you will at some time in the
    > future change to Windows 9 (having given 8 a miss) and you will bitch
    > and moan about the new stuff and wish it was as good as what you are now
    > moaning about.


    Windows 9? Don't you mean Windows 6.3? Well, they might have got Vista
    right by then. ;-)

    --

    Jeff
     
  13. KCB

    KCB Flightless Bird

    "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:4c937f19@news.x-privat.org...
    > "Barking" <not@to.me> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.26fc9299ad6ee1a4989687@news.astraweb.com...
    >> In article <4c92d703@news.x-privat.org>, Valorie *~~
    >> <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> said...
    >>>
    >>> In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    >>> Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down
    >>> OS
    >>> missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on in
    >>> W-7?
    >>>

    >> First google hit:
    >>
    >> http://malektips.com/windows-7-explorer-toggle-menu-bar.html

    >
    > Thank you. This is totally crazy what MS did. A total newbie wouldn't
    > even think to ask. These changes are useless and of no benefit at all.
    > How do people even know what to Google for. I see there are no
    > extensions on many files. What the hell is the point of removing the
    > extensions? I can't tell if they're jpgs or Gifs on W-7. God an I ever
    > sorry I bought that PC w/W-7. It never took me more than a day to get a
    > PC up and running. This is the *&^%$#@ pits. >:-(


    File Extensions are enabled/disabled in the same place. They are disabled
    by default. This has been the case for at least the last 3 versions of
    Windows, it's not new.
     
  14. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:50:21 -0400, Helroy wrote:

    > ?"Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:4c937f19@news.x-privat.org...
    > "Barking" <not@to.me> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.26fc9299ad6ee1a4989687@news.astraweb.com...
    > > In article <4c92d703@news.x-privat.org>, Valorie *~~
    > > <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> said...
    > >>
    > >> In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    > >> Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down
    > >> OS
    > >> missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on in
    > >> W-7?
    > >>

    > > First google hit:
    > >
    > > http://malektips.com/windows-7-explorer-toggle-menu-bar.html

    >
    > Thank you. This is totally crazy what MS did. A total newbie wouldn't even
    > think to ask. These changes are useless and of no benefit at all. How do
    > people even know what to Google for. I see there are no extensions on many
    > files. What the hell is the point of removing the extensions? I can't tell
    > if they're jpgs or Gifs on W-7. God an I ever sorry I bought that PC
    > w/W-7. It never took me more than a day to get a PC up and running. This
    > is the *&^%$#@ pits. >:-(
    >
    >
    >
    > Quit trolling and buy yourself a book called:
    > *Windows for Dummies.*


    A person after my own heart. I gave similar advice in one of Valorie's
    earlier rants^b^b^b^b^b posts, and I was going to repost it here until I
    saw your post.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  15. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:53:24 -0400, Stan Brown wrote:

    > On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:47:45 -0500, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    >>
    >> In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    >> Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down OS
    >> missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on in
    >> W-7?

    >
    > My answer is "Right where they always were, at the top of the
    > window." If you don't see them, then I guess it's possible to
    > suppress them in Windows 7 but I can't imagine how you did it.


    They are suppressed by default. Pressing Alt pops them up temporarily
    and there is also an option to make them permanent.

    Barking put a link to that info earlier in this thread.

    >> W-7/SP2/Home Premium

    >
    > Please stop posting an impossible OS identification. If you have
    > Windows 7 then you *don't* have SP2.



    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  16. Valorie *~~

    Valorie *~~ Flightless Bird

    "johnbee" <johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote in message
    news:i7067p$20c$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    > "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:4c92f475@news.x-privat.org...
    >> "Frank" <fb@win7x32.esd> wrote in message
    >> news:4c92ede3@news.x-privat.org...
    >>> On 9/16/2010 7:47 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    >>>> In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    >>>> Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down
    >>>> OS missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on
    >>>> in W-7?
    >>>>
    >>>> W-7/SP2/Home Premium...
    >>>
    >>> ...there is no such OS "W-7/SP2/Home Premium".

    >>
    >> You're right.
    >>>
    >>> Are you running Vista/SP2? Did you come from XP?
    >>> For folder options go to Control Panel/Folder Options.

    >>
    >> I'm talking about the new W-7 PC.
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    > I have followed this thread with interest. You appear to be the only
    > other person here who has noticed that email software is becoming worse.
    > I don't know why that is, (I am fairly sure Microsoft made wlm
    > deliberately not good because of the monopoly stuff; of course Usenet is
    > I suppose disliked by 'the authorities' so they hope it is dying out. My
    > ISP does not even provide Usenet access.


    Thank you. I'm glad someone here agrees. The last really GOOD OS from MS was
    XP. Just about everyone I know agrees. One friend took W-7 back and got a
    new PC with XP on it. She's happy as a lark now. MS destroyed a perfectly
    fine easy to use mail/news client. Shame on them. I believe they dumped
    their news server because of all the negative feedback from unhappy people.
    My ISP dropped NGs long ago.

    >
    > For me, Windows 7 is hugely different from my previous version, XP, but I
    > realise that it is actually very customizable and the security gives good
    > options but mystifying to most people I suspect. Computer security is
    > extremely complex and needs a big effort of studying and then planning
    > before setting up a system how one wants it.


    How do I shut the security crap off? Have you any idea? I bitterly resent
    being told I need permission to do something on my own PC. >:-( If I screw
    something up it's no sweat off MS's back.

    >
    > It might not be long before you decide to try some backup software and
    > then you will rapidly revise upwards your opinions of all previous
    > software: Windows 7 backup is great on paper, the best by far, but it does
    > not actually work, and all the others I have tried have been junk and it
    > has put me off paying money for one - I am a determined type though and
    > will find the answer. I am fairly sure that they want us to pay for cloud
    > storage so they try to nudge us onto it.


    I back everything up on an external Seagate drive or flash drives.

    > Remember how you liked Outlook Express and it did what you want without
    > all that damn tedious logging in and long waits while things churned away,
    > and the other stuff you liked? Well, you will at some time in the future
    > change to Windows 9 (having given 8 a miss) and you will bitch and moan
    > about the new stuff and wish it was as good as what you are now moaning
    > about.


    Oh you are so wrong! :) We have 2 XP PCs and 2 Vista PCs, one a laptop.
    They will last for many years. They can always be repaired. I will never
    buy a PC with a MS OS "above" Vista. God only knows how bad they'll get as
    the numbers go up. I can't believe how MS is doing such a bad job on it's
    OS's. I can see why some of the people we know have switched to Macs.
     
  17. Valorie *~~

    Valorie *~~ Flightless Bird

    "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
    news:i6vv3t$3u7$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    > "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:4c937f19@news.x-privat.org...
    >> "Barking" <not@to.me> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.26fc9299ad6ee1a4989687@news.astraweb.com...
    >>> In article <4c92d703@news.x-privat.org>, Valorie *~~
    >>> <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> said...
    >>>>
    >>>> In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    >>>> Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down
    >>>> OS
    >>>> missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on
    >>>> in
    >>>> W-7?
    >>>>
    >>> First google hit:
    >>>
    >>> http://malektips.com/windows-7-explorer-toggle-menu-bar.html

    >>
    >> Thank you. This is totally crazy what MS did. A total newbie wouldn't
    >> even think to ask. These changes are useless and of no benefit at all.
    >> How do people even know what to Google for. I see there are no
    >> extensions on many files. What the hell is the point of removing the
    >> extensions? I can't tell if they're jpgs or Gifs on W-7. God an I ever
    >> sorry I bought that PC w/W-7. It never took me more than a day to get a
    >> PC up and running. This is the *&^%$#@ pits. >:-(
    >>

    > Did you not use any Windows OS since Win95 Original Edition? Most of these
    > options have been around for a very long time, and the method to get to
    > them is not all that different.


    They were there and visible by default on all the other PCs. I would never
    even know they existed otherwise. So far I've set up the original W/95, W98
    & 98SE, XP and Vista. I never ran into anything like this on any of them. I
    still can't move files without "permission." This infuriates us both. >:-(

    > --
    > SC Tom
    > -There's no such thing as TMI when asking for tech support.
    >
     
  18. Valorie *~~

    Valorie *~~ Flightless Bird

    "John Ferrell" <jferrell13@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:823796t562gef308qqipssprnv3na7oiov@4ax.com...
    > On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:48:28 -0400, "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote:
    >
    > [snip...]
    >>Did you not use any Windows OS since Win95 Original Edition? Most of these
    >>options have been around for a very long time, and the method to get to
    >>them
    >>is not all that different.

    >
    > I like w7!
    > Having said that:
    > It would be nice to have an GUI that would allow simple customizing of
    > the user interface along with the quick switch available that would
    > allow using the current Windows operating GUI.
    >
    > That way I would not have to spend so much time hunting for
    > incantations that I know are there, just not where.


    And what the heck was the point of MS moving things around like that? How is
    it an improvement?

    >
    > I could then keep a simplified GUI for my clients (family & friends)
    > who just want to do the common uses on the computer.
    >
    > My first big question when I went to W7 was how to find my way back to
    > the desktop. After Goggling and chasing the answers I found an app
    > that I could keep on the task bar that did the job.


    What app is that? I can't get to the desktop with one click anymore on W-7.
    I miss the "desktop" icon on the taskbar.

    A few weeks later
    > I stumbled onto the "hidden" button on the lower right corner of the
    > screen. When my grand daughter brought her fiance to meet the family I
    > proudly showed him what I had discovered. Then he showed me the "hot
    > Key" way back to the Desktop.


    What hot key? Why does MS keep this a secret? There is no button on the
    lower right corner of the
    screen.

    >
    > After a split second of embarrassment I recovered and promptly
    > notified him that I was renaming him "Keeper". I wish that they lived
    > closer.
    >
    > I think this scenario is typical. I am not a green rookie. I have been
    > living and breathing computers since they were constructed with vacuum
    > tubes and relays. The inflexible interfaces we continue to struggle
    > are both artificial and unnecessary.
    >
    > I have no real problem with using the New Office GUI's other than a
    > lot of my clients are really just wanting to get the job done, they
    > are more than annoyed that they are expected to learn new interfaces
    > that do the "same old stuff"!


    There you go! I want to set the thing up and move on. Not spend days as I
    am trying to get some work done and have some fun on the machine. This so
    far has been nothing but aggravation for days now. >:-(

    >
    > Being in the business means that whatever is being used is what I need
    > to know so I really don't care what dumb changes are made. I will, as
    > always, try to get on top of the problems as quickly as possible. You
    > don't have to be smart to deal with these thins, just committed.
    >
    > So go ahead and hide the important stuff, we will figure it out
    > eventually. But, it is an area that your competition exploit to take
    > your business. The number one reason I hear from those who jump to
    > Apple is that it is easier to use...


    MS can't seem to learn anything. The average PC buyer out there is NOT a
    techie, Nerd or Geek. That can't seem to get through to MS.

    >
    > John Ferrell W8CCW
     
  19. Valorie *~~

    Valorie *~~ Flightless Bird

    "Nil" <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
    news:Xns9DF674D82EF7Cnilch1@81.169.183.62...
    > On 17 Sep 2010, "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in
    > alt.windows7.general:
    >
    >> How do people even know what to Google for.

    >
    > http://www.google.com/search?q="windows+7"+"folder+options"
    >
    > Seems pretty logical to me.
    >
    >> I see there are no extensions on many files. What the hell is the
    >> point of removing the extensions? I can't tell if they're jpgs or
    >> Gifs on W-7.

    >
    > It's been that way since Windows 95 or earlier. That was 15 years
    > ago.


    Not true. They were there by default on the HP PCs we bought right from W95
    to Vista. We would never have known they existed.

    >
    >> God an I ever sorry I bought that PC w/W-7. It never took me more
    >> than a day to get a PC up and running. This is the *&^%$#@ pits.
    >> >:-(

    >
    > I get the impression you'd complain no matter what.


    That's your opinion. Was I here complaining every time I bought a PC over
    the years?

    >
    > I agree that some of the changes in the Vista/Windows7 seem
    > arbitrary, but the functionality is still there.


    Really? All you do is surf the web and use online Forums? Tell me how to
    move WM to W-7 so I can again enjoy getting email and Usenet. Tell me how to
    "get permission" to move files on my own PC.

    If the interface
    > didn't change, people would have been complaining that it looked
    > old-fashioned.


    Skins don't matter. Changes and removing things and hiding things just to
    sell more SO is absurd.

    You just have to learn it, just like you had to learn
    > Windows 3 after using DOS, or Windows 95 after learning Windows 3,
    > or Windows XP after Windows 95/98/ME/2000.


    Tell me.... how do I get complete control of my own PC so I can move files
    on W-7 so it's "functional" for what we need the PC for, not what MS or
    anyone else thinks is functional for us. :)
     
  20. Valorie *~~

    Valorie *~~ Flightless Bird

    "KCB" <bcgc_qc@hootmail.com> wrote in message
    news:i70keu$8ds$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    > "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:4c937f19@news.x-privat.org...
    >> "Barking" <not@to.me> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.26fc9299ad6ee1a4989687@news.astraweb.com...
    >>> In article <4c92d703@news.x-privat.org>, Valorie *~~
    >>> <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> said...
    >>>>
    >>>> In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
    >>>> Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down
    >>>> OS
    >>>> missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on
    >>>> in
    >>>> W-7?
    >>>>
    >>> First google hit:
    >>>
    >>> http://malektips.com/windows-7-explorer-toggle-menu-bar.html

    >>
    >> Thank you. This is totally crazy what MS did. A total newbie wouldn't
    >> even think to ask. These changes are useless and of no benefit at all.
    >> How do people even know what to Google for. I see there are no
    >> extensions on many files. What the hell is the point of removing the
    >> extensions? I can't tell if they're jpgs or Gifs on W-7. God an I ever
    >> sorry I bought that PC w/W-7. It never took me more than a day to get a
    >> PC up and running. This is the *&^%$#@ pits. >:-(

    >
    > File Extensions are enabled/disabled in the same place. They are disabled
    > by default. This has been the case for at least the last 3 versions of
    > Windows, it's not new.


    See above. They were enabled on all the HP PCs we bought since 1995. I
    didn't even know you could hide them for a long time.


    >
     

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