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using Windows XP on other PCs

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by itfreak, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. itfreak

    itfreak Flightless Bird

    I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new
    system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to deregister
    my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have to
    install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the other
    pc?
     
  2. DL

    DL Flightless Bird

    There is no de-registration process.
    You can only transfer winxp to another PC if its a retail version. If your
    version of winxp was an oem version supplied with the old PC, it died with
    that PC

    "itfreak" <itfreak@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:879870D2-9E15-4BC1-B125-3C9A41F79CAB@microsoft.com...
    > I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new
    > system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to
    > deregister
    > my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have
    > to
    > install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the
    > other
    > pc?
     
  3. Pegasus [MVP]

    Pegasus [MVP] Flightless Bird

    "itfreak" <itfreak@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:879870D2-9E15-4BC1-B125-3C9A41F79CAB@microsoft.com...
    > I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new
    > system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to
    > deregister
    > my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have
    > to
    > install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the
    > other
    > pc?


    You cannot "deregister" a Windows licence. If you have an OEM version then
    you cannot transfer the licence to another PC. If it is a Retail version
    then you will need to ring Microsoft at install time and explain that you're
    transferring the licence. By the way - losing a CD is neither here nor
    there. Your friend could just burn a copy of a similar version of a WinXP
    CD. It is the product code that counts.
     
  4. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    DL wrote:
    > There is no de-registration process.
    > You can only transfer winxp to another PC if its a retail version. If
    > your version of winxp was an oem version supplied with the old PC, it
    > died with that PC


    That depends on what kind of OEM CD it is, branded or generic. With
    generic, you *may* not transfer it to another PC but if 120 days have
    passed since the last activation/hardware upgrade, it will install
    activate and become "genuine" without any problems.
    --
    Alias
     
  5. Bruce Chambers

    Bruce Chambers Flightless Bird

    itfreak wrote:
    > I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new
    > system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to deregister
    > my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have to
    > install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the other
    > pc?



    There is no "de-activation" or "de-registration" process, as such.

    Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not legitimately
    transferable, of course), simply remove WinXP from the computer it is
    currently on and then install it on the new computer. If it's been more
    than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, the
    you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem.
    If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.

    Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

    Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
    http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

    Windows Product Activation (WPA)
    http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm


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  6. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:21:01 -0700, itfreak
    <itfreak@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    > I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new
    > system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to deregister
    > my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have to
    > install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the other
    > pc?




    Three points:

    1. You are talking about registration, but what you really mean is
    "activation." Registration is completely optional and is used by
    Microsoft for marketing purposes. Activation, not registration, is
    what is mandatory.

    2. There is no such thing as deregistration, nor is there any such
    thing as deactivation. All you need to do is take Windows XP off the
    computer it's on (normally by formatting it, or installing another
    operating system over the top of it).

    3. If you copy of XP is a retail one, you can do what you want. But if
    it's an OEM copy you can not. The biggest disadvantage of an OEM copy
    is that its license ties it permanently to the first computer its
    installed on. It can never be moved to another, not even if the
    original one dies or is stolen. Moreover, many OEM copies are
    BIOS-locked to the computer they came with and won't install on
    another one.

    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  7. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
    > On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:21:01 -0700, itfreak
    > <itfreak@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    >
    >> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new
    >> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to deregister
    >> my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have to
    >> install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the other
    >> pc?

    >
    >
    >
    > Three points:
    >
    > 1. You are talking about registration, but what you really mean is
    > "activation." Registration is completely optional and is used by
    > Microsoft for marketing purposes. Activation, not registration, is
    > what is mandatory.
    >
    > 2. There is no such thing as deregistration, nor is there any such
    > thing as deactivation. All you need to do is take Windows XP off the
    > computer it's on (normally by formatting it, or installing another
    > operating system over the top of it).
    >
    > 3. If you copy of XP is a retail one, you can do what you want. But if
    > it's an OEM copy you can not. The biggest disadvantage of an OEM copy
    > is that its license ties it permanently to the first computer its
    > installed on. It can never be moved to another, not even if the
    > original one dies or is stolen. Moreover, many OEM copies are
    > BIOS-locked to the computer they came with and won't install on
    > another one.
    >


    Correction: MS doesn't want you to move a generic OEM XP to another
    computer but you most certainly *can* if it's been over 120 days since
    the last activation or hardware change. What you say about branded OEM
    copies is true but not generic OEM copies.

    --
    Alias
     
  8. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Would you like your friend to re-use your condoms, too?

    itfreak wrote:
    > I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new
    > system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to
    > deregister my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses.
    > So
    > do I have to install it first on my computer, deregister and then install
    > it on the other pc?
     
  9. Doum

    Doum Flightless Bird

    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> écrivait
    news:ubNtBrA2KHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

    ????... I fail to see the similarities, bad example!


    > Would you like your friend to re-use your condoms, too?
    >
    > itfreak wrote:
    >> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install
    >> a new system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have
    >> to deregister my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to
    >> viruses. So
    >> do I have to install it first on my computer, deregister and then
    >> install it on the other pc?

    >
    >
     
  10. HeyBub

    HeyBub Flightless Bird

    itfreak wrote:
    > I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install
    > a new system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have
    > to deregister my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to
    > viruses. So do I have to install it first on my computer, deregister
    > and then install it on the other pc?


    Frankly, your CD may not even WORK on his computer.

    Your friend should get a replacement copy of his own CD, either from the
    computer manufacturer if an OEM version or from Microsoft if he bought XP at
    retail.
     
  11. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    MYOB

    Doum wrote:
    > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> écrivait
    > news:ubNtBrA2KHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
    >
    > ????... I fail to see the similarities, bad example!
    >
    >
    >> Would you like your friend to re-use your condoms, too?
    >>
    >> itfreak wrote:
    >>> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install
    >>> a new system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have
    >>> to deregister my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to
    >>> viruses. So
    >>> do I have to install it first on my computer, deregister and then
    >>> install it on the other pc?
     
  12. Sardine

    Sardine Flightless Bird

    PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    > Would you like your friend to re-use your condoms, too?
    >
    > itfreak wrote:
    >> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a
    >> new
    >> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to
    >> deregister my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to
    >> viruses. So
    >> do I have to install it first on my computer, deregister and then install
    >> it on the other pc?

    >


    This is a rather distasteful and useless response that has nothing to do
    with the original question. Did you get up on the wrong side of your bed?

    Sardine
     
  13. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    You can MYOB, too.

    Sardine wrote:
    > PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    >> Would you like your friend to re-use your condoms, too?
    >>
    >> itfreak wrote:
    >>> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a
    >>> new
    >>> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to
    >>> deregister my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to
    >>> viruses. So
    >>> do I have to install it first on my computer, deregister and then
    >>> install
    >>> it on the other pc?

    >>

    >
    > This is a rather distasteful and useless response that has nothing to do
    > with the original question. Did you get up on the wrong side of your bed?
    >
    > Sardine
     
  14. Bert Hyman

    Bert Hyman Flightless Bird

    In news:#6AaToN2KHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
    <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:

    > You can MYOB, too.


    You might consider listening to your own advice.

    Does the "V" in your (probably self-assigned) "MVP" designation stand
    for "vile" or merely "vapid?"

    --
    Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
     
  15. LD55ZRA

    LD55ZRA Flightless Bird

    Bert Hyman wrote:
    >


    > Does the "V" in your (probably self-assigned) "MVP" designation stand
    > for "vile" or merely "vapid?"


    For years MVP stood for Microsoft Valuable Pig to signify most
    obnoxious individual who is not wanted even by the ordinary Pig
    Society Members.

    Pig-Bear is a member of the Elite group of Pig Society, he is also
    a member of the Geriatric Society of United States. So he does
    fit your designation of the letter "V". We normally say that he
    is fully qualified to be called a p e r v e r t.

    hth


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    INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF
    BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LD55ZRA OR ITS
    ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
    DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR
    LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL
    DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.

    Copyright LD55ZRA 2010.
     
  16. LD55ZRA

    LD55ZRA Flightless Bird

    Hey Freak,

    When you ask a question like this here, then don't expect a
    meaningful rational answer because you only get pigs here.

    My advice to you is to give your CD to your friend even if it is
    an OEM because from my experience of managing some 1000 systems on
    my network, the chances are that it will work. OEM or no OEM CDs
    are almost identical except OEMs tend to include some drivers
    specific to their hardware and so their CDs are generally bigger
    in size than the retail version but they all work on most
    systems. This is due to the fact that even the hardware used by
    branded OEMs tend to be the exact ones you can buy from your local
    store.

    I would ignore the nutters who have replied because they are
    talking from that small hole on their bum! We call this s h i t.

    itfreak wrote:
    >
    > I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new
    > system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to deregister
    > my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have to
    > install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the other
    > pc?


    --
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    KIND. LD55ZRA DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESSED OR
    IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND
    FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL LD55ZRA
    OR ITS ASSOCIATES BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER
    INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF
    BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LD55ZRA OR ITS
    ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
    DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR
    LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL
    DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.

    Copyright LD55ZRA 2010.
     
  17. Michael

    Michael Flightless Bird

    "LD55ZRA" <LD55ZRA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4BC0D44D.95F8A1BB@discussions.microsoft.com...
    >
    >
    > Bert Hyman wrote:
    >>

    >
    >> Does the "V" in your (probably self-assigned) "MVP" designation stand
    >> for "vile" or merely "vapid?"

    >
    > For years MVP stood for Microsoft Valuable Pig to signify most
    > obnoxious individual who is not wanted even by the ordinary Pig
    > Society Members.
    >
    > Pig-Bear is a member of the Elite group of Pig Society, he is also
    > a member of the Geriatric Society of United States. So he does
    > fit your designation of the letter "V". We normally say that he
    > is fully qualified to be called a p e r v e r t.
    >
    > hth


    Hey loser. Mommy let you out from under her dress this weekend?
    --


    "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
     
  18. Michael

    Michael Flightless Bird

    Manage 1000 systems on your network, my a$$! You have trouble managing what
    your left hand is doing while your right hand plays with the mouse!

    --


    "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."


    "LD55ZRA" <LD55ZRA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4BC0D666.2C27ABCE@discussions.microsoft.com...
    > Hey Freak,
    >
    > When you ask a question like this here, then don't expect a
    > meaningful rational answer because you only get pigs here.
    >
    > My advice to you is to give your CD to your friend even if it is
    > an OEM because from my experience of managing some 1000 systems on
    > my network, the chances are that it will work. OEM or no OEM CDs
    > are almost identical except OEMs tend to include some drivers
    > specific to their hardware and so their CDs are generally bigger
    > in size than the retail version but they all work on most
    > systems. This is due to the fact that even the hardware used by
    > branded OEMs tend to be the exact ones you can buy from your local
    > store.
    >
    > I would ignore the nutters who have replied because they are
    > talking from that small hole on their bum! We call this s h i t.
    >
    > itfreak wrote:
    >>
    >> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a
    >> new
    >> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to
    >> deregister
    >> my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I
    >> have to
    >> install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the
    >> other
    >> pc?

    >
    > --
    > THE INFORMATION IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY
    > KIND. LD55ZRA DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESSED OR
    > IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND
    > FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL LD55ZRA
    > OR ITS ASSOCIATES BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER
    > INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF
    > BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LD55ZRA OR ITS
    > ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
    > DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR
    > LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL
    > DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.
    >
    > Copyright LD55ZRA 2010.
     
  19. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Ewww!!!

    Michael wrote:
    > "LD55ZRA" <LD55ZRA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:4BC0D44D.95F8A1BB@discussions.microsoft.com...
    >>
    >>
    >> Bert Hyman wrote:
    >>>

    >>
    >>> Does the "V" in your (probably self-assigned) "MVP" designation stand
    >>> for "vile" or merely "vapid?"

    >>
    >> For years MVP stood for Microsoft Valuable Pig to signify most
    >> obnoxious individual who is not wanted even by the ordinary Pig
    >> Society Members.
    >>
    >> Pig-Bear is a member of the Elite group of Pig Society, he is also
    >> a member of the Geriatric Society of United States. So he does
    >> fit your designation of the letter "V". We normally say that he
    >> is fully qualified to be called a p e r v e r t.
    >>
    >> hth

    >
    > Hey loser. Mommy let you out from under her dress this weekend?
     
  20. Michael

    Michael Flightless Bird

    He really has issues.

    --


    "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."


    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:uNnoGoR2KHA.1708@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Ewww!!!
    >
    > Michael wrote:
    >> "LD55ZRA" <LD55ZRA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:4BC0D44D.95F8A1BB@discussions.microsoft.com...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Bert Hyman wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>> Does the "V" in your (probably self-assigned) "MVP" designation stand
    >>>> for "vile" or merely "vapid?"
    >>>
    >>> For years MVP stood for Microsoft Valuable Pig to signify most
    >>> obnoxious individual who is not wanted even by the ordinary Pig
    >>> Society Members.
    >>>
    >>> Pig-Bear is a member of the Elite group of Pig Society, he is also
    >>> a member of the Geriatric Society of United States. So he does
    >>> fit your designation of the letter "V". We normally say that he
    >>> is fully qualified to be called a p e r v e r t.
    >>>
    >>> hth

    >>
    >> Hey loser. Mommy let you out from under her dress this weekend?
     

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