Using Thunderbird for Usenet

[John Rumm]

Re: changed subject for experiement on threading orders

On 25/05/2010 10:46, george [dicegeorge] wrote:
> In Thunderbird when I click the [Subject] column header
> this message is filed alphabetically under subject:
>
> its not grouped along with
> "Re using Thunderbird for Usenet"

It could be if you wanted...

> But, if I understand Graeme correctly,
> in some newsreaders it will be grouped along with its initial subject name?

If you click a column header then it will do a simple sort in order on
that column (click a second time for reverse order).

If you click on the "thread gadget" column header then it will thread
properly based on the message references.

However, by using options on the View | Sort By menu, you can also do
tricks like sort by any column of your choice, but also retain the
threaded nature. So sort by "received" with threading on, will pop a
thread to the end of the list each time a response to it is received.


--
Cheers,

John.

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[The Natural Philosopher]

george [dicegeorge] wrote:
> xxx
>>> Thunderbird will thread Yahoo emails (I get individual emails of all
>>> posts for the groups I am interested in). Trouble is that so many
>>> people post in ways that mean they are not threaded even viewed
>>> within the group. Thins like starting a new topic by replying to an
>>> existing post and changing the subject.
>
> Oh, whoops, I do that,
> So message threading isnt done by the subject line,
> but by some hidden code within the message?
>
MSGID usually
> [g]

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

Re: changed subject for experiement on threading orders

george [dicegeorge] wrote:
> In Thunderbird when I click the [Subject] column header
> this message is filed alphabetically under subject:
>
In my thunderbid, its filed under the original thread, because I use
thread viewing.

> its not grouped along with
> "Re using Thunderbird for Usenet"

It is here.

> But, if I understand Graeme correctly,
> in some newsreaders it will be grouped along with its initial subject name?
>
> [g]
>
>
>
> george [dicegeorge] wrote:
>> changed subject for experiemnt
>>
>> will this thread with its ordinal title:
>> "Re using Thunderbird for Usenet"
>> or thread under its new subject name?
>>
>>
>> Graeme wrote:
>>> In message <85svr6FubcU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod
>>> <polygonum@ntlworld.com> writes
>>>>>
>>>> Thunderbird will thread Yahoo emails (I get individual emails of all
>>>> posts for the groups I am interested in). Trouble is that so many
>>>> people post in ways that mean they are not threaded even viewed
>>>> within the group. Thins like starting a new topic by replying to an
>>>> existing post and changing the subject. Or just posting a
>>>> disconnected message without making any attempt to place it in a
>>>> thread.
>>>>
>>> Excellent, thank you. Yes, broken threads are a problem even with
>>> Turnpike, although TP does at least treat the broken thread as a new
>>> thread within the same folder, which is logical.
>>>
>>> Delighted to read that Thunderbird is able to search within saved
>>> messages, whether group, news or mail. That is a TP facility I use
>>> frequently.

 

[george [dicegeorge]]

Re: changed subject for experiement on threading orders

John Rumm wrote:
> On 25/05/2010 10:46, george [dicegeorge] wrote:
>> In Thunderbird when I click the [Subject] column header
>> this message is filed alphabetically under subject:
>>
>> its not grouped along with
>> "Re using Thunderbird for Usenet"
>
> It could be if you wanted...
>
>> But, if I understand Graeme correctly,
>> in some newsreaders it will be grouped along with its initial subject
>> name?
>
> If you click a column header then it will do a simple sort in order on
> that column (click a second time for reverse order).
>
> If you click on the "thread gadget" column header then it will thread
> properly based on the message references.
>
> However, by using options on the View | Sort By menu, you can also do
> tricks like sort by any column of your choice, but also retain the
> threaded nature. So sort by "received" with threading on, will pop a
> thread to the end of the list each time a response to it is received.
>
>
Thanks - I hadnt noticed the Thunderbird thread gadget column before,
I can see it will be useful sometimes!

[g]

 

[Graeme]

Re: changed subject for experiement on threading orders

In message <htg68t$2l6h$3@energise.enta.net>, "george [dicegeorge]"
<dicegeorge@hotmail.com> writes
>In Thunderbird when I click the [Subject] column header
>this message is filed alphabetically under subject:
>
>its not grouped along with
>"Re using Thunderbird for Usenet"
>But, if I understand Graeme correctly,
>in some newsreaders it will be grouped along with its initial subject name?

Yes, using Turnpike, your message appears within the same thread, as it
should.
--
Graeme

 

[John Rumm]

Re: changed subject for experiement on threading orders

On 25/05/2010 13:22, george [dicegeorge] wrote:
> John Rumm wrote:
>> On 25/05/2010 10:46, george [dicegeorge] wrote:
>>> In Thunderbird when I click the [Subject] column header
>>> this message is filed alphabetically under subject:
>>>
>>> its not grouped along with
>>> "Re using Thunderbird for Usenet"
>>
>> It could be if you wanted...
>>
>>> But, if I understand Graeme correctly,
>>> in some newsreaders it will be grouped along with its initial subject
>>> name?
>>
>> If you click a column header then it will do a simple sort in order on
>> that column (click a second time for reverse order).
>>
>> If you click on the "thread gadget" column header then it will thread
>> properly based on the message references.
>>
>> However, by using options on the View | Sort By menu, you can also do
>> tricks like sort by any column of your choice, but also retain the
>> threaded nature. So sort by "received" with threading on, will pop a
>> thread to the end of the list each time a response to it is received.
>>
>>
> Thanks - I hadnt noticed the Thunderbird thread gadget column before,
> I can see it will be useful sometimes!

I find the \ keystroke handy for collapsing all the threads back to just
their titles.

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Cheers,

John.

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[BillW50]

Re: changed subject for experiement on threading orders

On 5/25/2010 107 AM, John Rumm wrote:
> On 25/05/2010 13:22, george [dicegeorge] wrote:
>> John Rumm wrote:
>>> On 25/05/2010 10:46, george [dicegeorge] wrote:
>>>> In Thunderbird when I click the [Subject] column header
>>>> this message is filed alphabetically under subject:
>>>>
>>>> its not grouped along with
>>>> "Re using Thunderbird for Usenet"
>>>
>>> It could be if you wanted...
>>>
>>>> But, if I understand Graeme correctly,
>>>> in some newsreaders it will be grouped along with its initial subject
>>>> name?
>>>
>>> If you click a column header then it will do a simple sort in order on
>>> that column (click a second time for reverse order).
>>>
>>> If you click on the "thread gadget" column header then it will thread
>>> properly based on the message references.
>>>
>>> However, by using options on the View | Sort By menu, you can also do
>>> tricks like sort by any column of your choice, but also retain the
>>> threaded nature. So sort by "received" with threading on, will pop a
>>> thread to the end of the list each time a response to it is received.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks - I hadnt noticed the Thunderbird thread gadget column before,
>> I can see it will be useful sometimes!
>
> I find the \ keystroke handy for collapsing all the threads back to just
> their titles.

I am running into the same problem with Thunderbird as I always have.
And the problem is unbearable in very busy newsgroups. Sure in
Thunderbird you can setup a rule to automatically mark any thread you
post in and mark them as watched.

Well one, the rule isn't always being applied in huge newsgroups. It is
like TB is getting confused. Worse, it is having a problem reading all
of the headers as well. As the status bar instead of going from left to
right is jumping all over the place. This newsgroup on this server has
over 12,000 posts, btw.

And now TB can indeed mark the threads you had replied in as watched
(when it actually works). But some threads contain hundreds of posts.
And these huge threads, I am not interested in reading all of them. Just
the sub-threads I had taken part in.

And it just happened again today. I thought I replied to all of them and
I then fired up OE6. And instantly I found two posts that were replies
to my posts. And OE6 not only can mark whole threads like TB can, but it
can rather only mark sub-threads you are only interested in. So you can
find them instantly.

So maybe people can understand why I don't find TB (or other ones I have
tried) very attractive. As OE6 works well and very quick. And you can
search past read posts very quickly as well.

--
Bill
Thunderbird Portable 3.0 (20091130)

 

[Rod]

On 25/05/2010 10:41, george [dicegeorge] wrote:
> xxx
>>> Thunderbird will thread Yahoo emails (I get individual emails of all
>>> posts for the groups I am interested in). Trouble is that so many
>>> people post in ways that mean they are not threaded even viewed
>>> within the group. Thins like starting a new topic by replying to an
>>> existing post and changing the subject.
>
> Oh, whoops, I do that,
> So message threading isnt done by the subject line,
> but by some hidden code within the message?
>
> [g]

I *always* reply to Yahoo group posts from the web page and use the
[Reply] button on the specific post to which I am replying - or use the
[Reply via a web post] button. Sometimes this does indeed require
clicking on [Messages in this topic] and playing about to ensure I am on
the right post. Maybe other techniques work, but I have never felt
comfortable that I am doing the right thing.

For new threads I do use the [Start a new topic] link from an emailed
post - and then post from the web page. Or the [Start Topic] button on
the web page.

I really do not see how replying by email ever works - and judging by
what I see, it doesn't seem to.

It's a rotten system that makes sensible posting so difficult for so
many posters, but for some subjects it is the only place to go.

--
Rod

 

[Graeme]

In message <862g3dFbaaU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod
<polygonum@ntlworld.com> writes
>
>I really do not see how replying by email ever works - and judging by
>what I see, it doesn't seem to.
>
>It's a rotten system that makes sensible posting so difficult for so
>many posters, but for some subjects it is the only place to go.

<huge grin> I am afraid that we see this subject from opposite ends. I
cannot abide replying via a web page, and cannot understand how or why
people do. I always reply via e-mail, and it works.

--
Graeme

 

[John Rumm]

Re: changed subject for experiement on threading orders

On 25/05/2010 18:12, BillW50 wrote:
> On 5/25/2010 107 AM, John Rumm wrote:
>> On 25/05/2010 13:22, george [dicegeorge] wrote:
>>> John Rumm wrote:
>>>> On 25/05/2010 10:46, george [dicegeorge] wrote:
>>>>> In Thunderbird when I click the [Subject] column header
>>>>> this message is filed alphabetically under subject:
>>>>>
>>>>> its not grouped along with
>>>>> "Re using Thunderbird for Usenet"
>>>>
>>>> It could be if you wanted...
>>>>
>>>>> But, if I understand Graeme correctly,
>>>>> in some newsreaders it will be grouped along with its initial subject
>>>>> name?
>>>>
>>>> If you click a column header then it will do a simple sort in order on
>>>> that column (click a second time for reverse order).
>>>>
>>>> If you click on the "thread gadget" column header then it will thread
>>>> properly based on the message references.
>>>>
>>>> However, by using options on the View | Sort By menu, you can also do
>>>> tricks like sort by any column of your choice, but also retain the
>>>> threaded nature. So sort by "received" with threading on, will pop a
>>>> thread to the end of the list each time a response to it is received.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks - I hadnt noticed the Thunderbird thread gadget column before,
>>> I can see it will be useful sometimes!
>>
>> I find the \ keystroke handy for collapsing all the threads back to just
>> their titles.
>
> I am running into the same problem with Thunderbird as I always have.
> And the problem is unbearable in very busy newsgroups. Sure in
> Thunderbird you can setup a rule to automatically mark any thread you
> post in and mark them as watched.
>
> Well one, the rule isn't always being applied in huge newsgroups. It is
> like TB is getting confused. Worse, it is having a problem reading all
> of the headers as well. As the status bar instead of going from left to
> right is jumping all over the place. This newsgroup on this server has
> over 12,000 posts, btw.

One thing to watch is that message filters apply to individual groups
and not a news server as a whole, so you may need to duplicate some
filters between groups.

> And now TB can indeed mark the threads you had replied in as watched
> (when it actually works). But some threads contain hundreds of posts.
> And these huge threads, I am not interested in reading all of them. Just
> the sub-threads I had taken part in.

You can kill the sub threads you don't want (Shift+k)

> And it just happened again today. I thought I replied to all of them and
> I then fired up OE6. And instantly I found two posts that were replies
> to my posts. And OE6 not only can mark whole threads like TB can, but it
> can rather only mark sub-threads you are only interested in. So you can
> find them instantly.

I don't find this a problem personally, but I expect there is a
difference in the way we are using it. I have it watch any thread I have
posted to, and when catching up I will use watched with unread, Hitting
next jumps me straight to the next new post. If I find a sub thread
wandering off somewhere I don't want to go, then I just kill that sub
thread. The result is I see any replies of interest straight away, and
don't have to wade through sub threads that don't interest me.

There is a slight bug in 3.0.4 though that can flag a thread as having
new posts when they occur in a killed sub thread. That means it appears
on the top level view underlined, but is skipped over when you do a next.

> So maybe people can understand why I don't find TB (or other ones I have
> tried) very attractive. As OE6 works well and very quick. And you can
> search past read posts very quickly as well.

Each to his own I guess.

--
Cheers,

John.

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[Rod]

On 25/05/2010 19:12, Graeme wrote:
<>
>
> <huge grin> I am afraid that we see this subject from opposite ends. I
> cannot abide replying via a web page, and cannot understand how or why
> people do. I always reply via e-mail, and it works.
>
Happily grant you the right to do that - to do absolutely anything you
like - so long as there is sensible threading!

Can't say I like the web post thing, but it works for me.

And don't get me onto the inability of most Yahoo group posters to snip.
Or the way the system pushes people towards top posting. Or the
ludicrous backgrounds and pictures people insist on adding.

And George, just remember that Yahoo group emails are not the same as
Usenet posts.

--
Rod

 

[Graeme]

In message <862j3sFt9nU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod
<polygonum@ntlworld.com> writes
>On 25/05/2010 19:12, Graeme wrote:
>>
>> <huge grin> I am afraid that we see this subject from opposite ends. I
>> cannot abide replying via a web page, and cannot understand how or why
>> people do. I always reply via e-mail, and it works.
>>
>Happily grant you the right to do that - to do absolutely anything you
>like - so long as there is sensible threading!

Agreed!
>
>And don't get me onto the inability of most Yahoo group posters to
>snip. Or the way the system pushes people towards top posting. Or the
>ludicrous backgrounds and pictures people insist on adding.

I despise HTML posting, wherever I see it. Plain text rules.
>
>And George, just remember that Yahoo group emails are not the same as
>Usenet posts.

I'm very well aware of the difference, but much prefer to receive my
Yahoo group posts exactly as I see Usenet posts. No top posting, plenty
of snippage, unbroken sig sep, NO HTML, neatly sorted into groups, then
properly threaded. I like any thread to which I have contributed to be
automatically marked as 'interesting', one click facility to keep
threads or posts forever, mark as read etc.
--
Graeme

 

[dennis@home]

Re: changed subject for experiement on threading orders

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message
news:hth0ek$l34$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> Well one, the rule isn't always being applied in huge newsgroups. It is
> like TB is getting confused. Worse, it is having a problem reading all of
> the headers as well. As the status bar instead of going from left to right
> is jumping all over the place. This newsgroup on this server has over
> 12,000 posts, btw.

Its lucky you aren't using astranews then, it has >135,000 posts.

Even datemas' free service has >35,000

 

[~misfit~]

Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
[snip]
> But I have Thunderbird set to not to
> download message bodies. So maybe that is why. OE6 can be set not to
> download message bodies either. But it stores them automatically if
> up opened them once or have them set as being watched. I like that a
> lot. Probably not a good idea if you have Internet access all of the
> time and are tight on disk space too.

Going slightly away from the subject here, I use Tbird as my email client
and it really annoys me that, after it asks me if I want to download remote
content in an email, it doesn't store it, not even for that session.

So if I'm checking prices for components in a weekly 'specials' email from a
supplier (I tend to keep each weekly email in my inbox until I get the next
one from the same company, then I delete last week's one) and click to
another email next time I want to look back at that email again it
re-downloads all of the graphical (etcetera) content. That can be a real
PITA if you're off line at the time or have limied conection as some
organisations like to send lots of pretty pictures in their (or linked to
their) emails. It can chew through data pretty quickly.
--
Shaun.

"When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson.

 

[~misfit~]

Re: changed subject for experiement on threading orders

Somewhere on teh intarwebs george [dicegeorge] wrote:


[snip]

Take it to alt.test ya twat. This was way off-topic to start with.
--
Shaun.

"When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson.

 

[Rod]

On 27/05/2010 05:18, ~misfit~ wrote:
<>
>
> Going slightly away from the subject here, I use Tbird as my email client
> and it really annoys me that, after it asks me if I want to download remote
> content in an email, it doesn't store it, not even for that session.
>
> So if I'm checking prices for components in a weekly 'specials' email from a
> supplier (I tend to keep each weekly email in my inbox until I get the next
> one from the same company, then I delete last week's one) and click to
> another email next time I want to look back at that email again it
> re-downloads all of the graphical (etcetera) content. That can be a real
> PITA if you're off line at the time or have limied conection as some
> organisations like to send lots of pretty pictures in their (or linked to
> their) emails. It can chew through data pretty quickly.

Have not gone very far in checking, but have just gone to some old
emails of exactly the type you mention, and pictures are there - or they
download instantly without asking. (Lidl ones are what I just checked.)
Oddly - only the ones since sometime in December 2009. Earlier ones are
as you described - bereft of pictures.

--
Rod

 

[~misfit~]

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Rod wrote:
> On 27/05/2010 05:18, ~misfit~ wrote:
> <>
>>
>> Going slightly away from the subject here, I use Tbird as my email
>> client and it really annoys me that, after it asks me if I want to
>> download remote content in an email, it doesn't store it, not even
>> for that session. So if I'm checking prices for components in a weekly
>> 'specials'
>> email from a supplier (I tend to keep each weekly email in my inbox
>> until I get the next one from the same company, then I delete last
>> week's one) and click to another email next time I want to look back
>> at that email again it re-downloads all of the graphical (etcetera)
>> content. That can be a real PITA if you're off line at the time or
>> have limied conection as some organisations like to send lots of
>> pretty pictures in their (or linked to their) emails. It can chew
>> through data pretty quickly.
>
> Have not gone very far in checking, but have just gone to some old
> emails of exactly the type you mention, and pictures are there - or
> they download instantly without asking.

Tbird 'remembers' if you said yes the first time you opened the mail and
then just downloads remote content.

I've just spent more time than I'd have liked looking for a setting to tell
it to keep the data so it doesn't have to re-download it but I'm fusked if I
can find out how to do that.

> (Lidl ones are what I just
> checked.) Oddly - only the ones since sometime in December 2009.
> Earlier ones are as you described - bereft of pictures.

That's another problem with it not keeping the pictures etc. It can only do
that as long as they're still on the server. Therefore 'archived' emails may
in fact be useless, which is why I'd love to be able to change the settings.
--
Shaun.

"When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson.

 

[BillW50]

In news:htkrr2$roo$1@news.eternal-september.org,
~misfit~ typed on Thu, 27 May 2010 16:188 +1200:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
> [snip]
>> But I have Thunderbird set to not to
>> download message bodies. So maybe that is why. OE6 can be set not to
>> download message bodies either. But it stores them automatically if
>> up opened them once or have them set as being watched. I like that a
>> lot. Probably not a good idea if you have Internet access all of the
>> time and are tight on disk space too.
>
> Going slightly away from the subject here, I use Tbird as my email
> client and it really annoys me that, after it asks me if I want to
> download remote content in an email, it doesn't store it, not even
> for that session.
> So if I'm checking prices for components in a weekly 'specials' email
> from a supplier (I tend to keep each weekly email in my inbox until I
> get the next one from the same company, then I delete last week's
> one) and click to another email next time I want to look back at that
> email again it re-downloads all of the graphical (etcetera) content.
> That can be a real PITA if you're off line at the time or have limied
> conection as some organisations like to send lots of pretty pictures
> in their (or linked to their) emails. It can chew through data pretty
> quickly.

You need to setup whatever folder(s) you want for offline reading. Then
it will store them on the computer.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3

 

[BillW50]

Re: changed subject for experiement on threading orders

In news:AKadnTMqguigiGHWnZ2dnUVZ8uGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk,
John Rumm typed on Tue, 25 May 2010 19:21:47 +0100:
> On 25/05/2010 18:12, BillW50 wrote:
>> On 5/25/2010 107 AM, John Rumm wrote:
>>> On 25/05/2010 13:22, george [dicegeorge] wrote:
>>>> John Rumm wrote:
>>>>> On 25/05/2010 10:46, george [dicegeorge] wrote:
>>>>>> In Thunderbird when I click the [Subject] column header
>>>>>> this message is filed alphabetically under subject:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> its not grouped along with
>>>>>> "Re using Thunderbird for Usenet"
>>>>>
>>>>> It could be if you wanted...
>>>>>
>>>>>> But, if I understand Graeme correctly,
>>>>>> in some newsreaders it will be grouped along with its initial
>>>>>> subject name?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you click a column header then it will do a simple sort in
>>>>> order on that column (click a second time for reverse order).
>>>>>
>>>>> If you click on the "thread gadget" column header then it will
>>>>> thread properly based on the message references.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, by using options on the View | Sort By menu, you can
>>>>> also do tricks like sort by any column of your choice, but also
>>>>> retain the threaded nature. So sort by "received" with threading
>>>>> on, will pop a thread to the end of the list each time a response
>>>>> to it is received.
>>>> Thanks - I hadnt noticed the Thunderbird thread gadget column
>>>> before, I can see it will be useful sometimes!
>>>
>>> I find the \ keystroke handy for collapsing all the threads back to
>>> just their titles.
>>
>> I am running into the same problem with Thunderbird as I always have.
>> And the problem is unbearable in very busy newsgroups. Sure in
>> Thunderbird you can setup a rule to automatically mark any thread you
>> post in and mark them as watched.
>>
>> Well one, the rule isn't always being applied in huge newsgroups. It
>> is like TB is getting confused. Worse, it is having a problem
>> reading all of the headers as well. As the status bar instead of
>> going from left to right is jumping all over the place. This
>> newsgroup on this server has over 12,000 posts, btw.
>
> One thing to watch is that message filters apply to individual groups
> and not a news server as a whole, so you may need to duplicate some
> filters between groups.

Oh? Maybe that is where I went wrong. Seemed to work well for the
newsgroups already there. But new ones later doesn't seem to be working
correctly. Boy that is a lot of work with lots of newsgroups.

>> And now TB can indeed mark the threads you had replied in as watched
>> (when it actually works). But some threads contain hundreds of posts.
>> And these huge threads, I am not interested in reading all of them.
>> Just the sub-threads I had taken part in.
>
> You can kill the sub threads you don't want (Shift+k)

Okay I never think of that as OE6 does the same, but marks them as
ignore. But they are still there and all.

>> And it just happened again today. I thought I replied to all of them
>> and I then fired up OE6. And instantly I found two posts that were
>> replies to my posts. And OE6 not only can mark whole threads like TB
>> can, but it can rather only mark sub-threads you are only interested
>> in. So you can find them instantly.
>
> I don't find this a problem personally, but I expect there is a
> difference in the way we are using it. I have it watch any thread I
> have posted to, and when catching up I will use watched with unread,
> Hitting next jumps me straight to the next new post. If I find a sub
> thread wandering off somewhere I don't want to go, then I just kill
> that sub thread. The result is I see any replies of interest straight
> away, and don't have to wade through sub threads that don't interest
> me.

I'll start using it your way and that will probably work much better.


> There is a slight bug in 3.0.4 though that can flag a thread as having
> new posts when they occur in a killed sub thread. That means it
> appears on the top level view underlined, but is skipped over when
> you do a next.

Oh okay.

>> So maybe people can understand why I don't find TB (or other ones I
>> have tried) very attractive. As OE6 works well and very quick. And
>> you can search past read posts very quickly as well.
>
> Each to his own I guess.

OE seems so very efficient compared to other programs. As other programs
seem to make the user go through so much work and it really shouldn't be
that way.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3

 

[BillW50]

Re: changed subject for experiement on threading orders

On 5/25/2010 29 PM, dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message
> news:hth0ek$l34$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> Well one, the rule isn't always being applied in huge newsgroups. It
>> is like TB is getting confused. Worse, it is having a problem reading
>> all of the headers as well. As the status bar instead of going from
>> left to right is jumping all over the place. This newsgroup on this
>> server has over 12,000 posts, btw.
>
> Its lucky you aren't using astranews then, it has >135,000 posts.
>
> Even datemas' free service has >35,000

Yup, very!

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Bill
Thunderbird Portable 3.0 (20091130)