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Upgrade Question

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by El.Plates, Aug 9, 2010.

  1. El.Plates

    El.Plates Flightless Bird

    Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit
    to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail DVDs.
    TIA
     
  2. bod

    bod Flightless Bird

    El.Plates wrote:
    > Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7 Ultimate 32
    > Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail DVDs.
    > TIA
    >
    > I don't know, but I doubt it.

    I recently changed from Win 7 32 bit to 64, but I decided to save all my
    stuff and reformatted and installed afresh. I would advise you to do the
    same.
    Nothing beats a fresh install.

    Bod
     
  3. El.Plates

    El.Plates Flightless Bird

    "bod" <bodron57@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:8c9sn8Fj59U2@mid.individual.net...
    > El.Plates wrote:
    >> Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7 Ultimate 32
    >> Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail DVDs.
    >> TIA
    > >
    > > I don't know, but I doubt it.

    > I recently changed from Win 7 32 bit to 64, but I decided to save all my
    > stuff and reformatted and installed afresh. I would advise you to do the
    > same.
    > Nothing beats a fresh install.
    >
    > Bod


    I advise the same thing to everyone too, but that's not my question. What I
    asked was "is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7 Ultimate
    32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail DVDs"
     
  4. bod

    bod Flightless Bird

    El.Plates wrote:
    >
    >
    > "bod" <bodron57@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:8c9sn8Fj59U2@mid.individual.net...
    >> El.Plates wrote:
    >>> Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7 Ultimate
    >>> 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail DVDs.
    >>> TIA
    >> >
    >> > I don't know, but I doubt it.

    >> I recently changed from Win 7 32 bit to 64, but I decided to save all
    >> my stuff and reformatted and installed afresh. I would advise you to
    >> do the same.
    >> Nothing beats a fresh install.
    >>
    >> Bod

    >
    > I advise the same thing to everyone too, but that's not my question.
    > What I asked was "is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows
    > 7 Ultimate 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail DVDs"
    >
    >


    Ok, understood and it's a good question, but why would you want to avoid
    a fresh install? I can only assume that you have some important prog's
    in 32 bit that you want to keep?
    Have you tried M/soft's knowledge base, etc?

    Or are you just asking out of curiosity?

    Bod
     
  5. El.Plates

    El.Plates Flightless Bird


    >>
    >> I advise the same thing to everyone too, but that's not my question. What
    >> I asked was "is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7
    >> Ultimate 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail DVDs"
    > >
    > >

    >
    > Ok, understood and it's a good question, but why would you want to avoid a
    > fresh install? I can only assume that you have some important prog's in 32
    > bit that you want to keep?
    > Have you tried M/soft's knowledge base, etc?
    >
    > Or are you just asking out of curiosity?
    >
    > Bod


    Yes I do have some important progs in 32 Bit that I want to keep and I 've
    had a look @ M/soft's knowledge base but haven't found a definitive answer.
    I'm trying to avoid days of reinstalling.
    Cheers.
     
  6. SC Tom

    SC Tom Flightless Bird

    "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com> wrote in message
    news:i3ochc$g96$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7 Ultimate 32
    > Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail DVDs.
    > TIA


    You have to do a clean install when moving from 32 to 64-bit and vice versa.
    Read this FAQ, fifth article down:

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions

    Before moving to 64-bit, be sure there are available 64-bit drivers for your
    hardware. Compatibility will be an issue if there are not.
    --
    SC Tom
     
  7. El.Plates

    El.Plates Flightless Bird

  8. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 14:45:29 +0100, "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com>
    wrote:

    > Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit
    > to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail DVDs.




    No. It is not possible to change the "bitness" of any version of
    Windows. To get from 32-bit to 64-bit, or vice-versa, you have to do
    it by a clean installation.
     
  9. SC Tom

    SC Tom Flightless Bird

    "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com> wrote in message
    news:i3onji$onm$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    >
    >>
    >> You have to do a clean install when moving from 32 to 64-bit and vice
    >> versa.
    >> Read this FAQ, fifth article down:
    >>
    >> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions
    >>
    >> Before moving to 64-bit, be sure there are available 64-bit drivers for
    >> your hardware. Compatibility will be an issue if there are not.
    >> --
    >> SC Tom
    >>

    >
    > Thanks for the link, that answered it all.
    > Thanks again


    You're welcome!
    --
    SC Tom
     
  10. XS11E

    XS11E Flightless Bird

    "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com> wrote:

    > Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7
    > Ultimate 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail
    > DVDs. TIA


    No.



    --
    XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
    The Usenet Improvement Project:
    http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
     
  11. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com> wrote in message
    news:i3ohq9$3bl$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    >
    >>>
    >>> I advise the same thing to everyone too, but that's not my question.
    >>> What I asked was "is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows
    >>> 7 Ultimate 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail DVDs"
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >> Ok, understood and it's a good question, but why would you want to avoid
    >> a fresh install? I can only assume that you have some important prog's in
    >> 32 bit that you want to keep?
    >> Have you tried M/soft's knowledge base, etc?
    >>
    >> Or are you just asking out of curiosity?
    >>
    >> Bod

    >
    > Yes I do have some important progs in 32 Bit that I want to keep and I 've
    > had a look @ M/soft's knowledge base but haven't found a definitive
    > answer.
    > I'm trying to avoid days of reinstalling.
    > Cheers.


    I am afraid that the questions on the MS website about upgrading windows
    specifically states that you can not upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit. That
    seems definitive enough for me and agrees with things I have read elsewhere.

    If you would rather not bother, console yourself with the thought that if
    the important thing is that your old stuff keeps running, 32 bit is the
    better option anyway. Also, perhaps there are other punters out there who
    are like you: in that case, wait a while and somebody will work out a
    method and post it on a site free.

    Bear in mind that all the people who installed 64 bit will say it's great
    and 21st century and so on, and people like me who run 32 bit will say that
    there isn't much 64 bit stuff yet and 32 bit is better at running old
    software etc. 64 bit Vista flopped.
     
  12. Mike 2

    Mike 2 Flightless Bird

    XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns9DCF5EA14E8B6xs11eyahoocom@
    127.0.0.1:

    > "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7
    >> Ultimate 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail
    >> DVDs. TIA

    >


    I believe you'll then have problems running any installed 32-bit
    applications anyway. By the way, do you have a 64bit processor?
     
  13. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On 09 Aug 2010 19:23:37 GMT, Mike 2 <imnot@home.com> wrote:

    > XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns9DCF5EA14E8B6xs11eyahoocom@
    > 127.0.0.1:
    >
    > > "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >> Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7
    > >> Ultimate 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail
    > >> DVDs. TIA

    > >

    >
    > I believe you'll then have problems running any installed 32-bit
    > applications anyway.



    No, the upgrade is simply not possible. A clean installation is
    required, as I said in an earlier message.


    > By the way, do you have a 64bit processor?



    Good question, and certainly something he should be sure of.
     
  14. XS11E

    XS11E Flightless Bird

    Mike 2 <imnot@home.com> wrote:

    > XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
    > news:Xns9DCF5EA14E8B6xs11eyahoocom@ 127.0.0.1:
    >
    >> "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7
    >>> Ultimate 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail
    >>> DVDs. TIA

    >>

    >
    > I believe you'll then have problems running any installed 32-bit
    > applications anyway. By the way, do you have a 64bit processor?


    Please reply to the person who asked the question, not to others in the
    thread.

    Thanks.

    --
    XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
    The Usenet Improvement Project:
    http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
     
  15. Mike 2

    Mike 2 Flightless Bird

    XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns9DCFB18DD924Exs11eyahoocom@
    127.0.0.1:

    > Mike 2 <imnot@home.com> wrote:
    >
    >> XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
    >> news:Xns9DCF5EA14E8B6xs11eyahoocom@ 127.0.0.1:
    >>
    >>> "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7
    >>>> Ultimate 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail
    >>>> DVDs. TIA
    >>>

    >>
    >> I believe you'll then have problems running any installed 32-bit
    >> applications anyway. By the way, do you have a 64bit processor?

    >
    > Please reply to the person who asked the question, not to others in the
    > thread.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >


    I'm sure he's reading all the threads my friend, I do when I ask a
    question. Actually I think we all do.
     
  16. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On 10 Aug 2010 13:42:01 GMT, Mike 2 wrote:

    > XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns9DCFB18DD924Exs11eyahoocom@
    > 127.0.0.1:
    >
    >> Mike 2 <imnot@home.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
    >>> news:Xns9DCF5EA14E8B6xs11eyahoocom@ 127.0.0.1:
    >>>
    >>>> "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7
    >>>>> Ultimate 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail
    >>>>> DVDs. TIA
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> I believe you'll then have problems running any installed 32-bit
    >>> applications anyway. By the way, do you have a 64bit processor?

    >>
    >> Please reply to the person who asked the question, not to others in the
    >> thread.
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>

    >
    > I'm sure he's reading all the threads my friend, I do when I ask a
    > question. Actually I think we all do.


    You sure told him!

    (To disambiguate my sarcasm: I'm with XS11E 100% on this one.)

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  17. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:52:21 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

    > On 10 Aug 2010 13:42:01 GMT, Mike 2 wrote:
    >
    > > XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns9DCFB18DD924Exs11eyahoocom@
    > > 127.0.0.1:
    > >
    > >> Mike 2 <imnot@home.com> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
    > >>> news:Xns9DCF5EA14E8B6xs11eyahoocom@ 127.0.0.1:
    > >>>
    > >>>> "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com> wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>> Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7
    > >>>>> Ultimate 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail
    > >>>>> DVDs. TIA
    > >>>>
    > >>>
    > >>> I believe you'll then have problems running any installed 32-bit
    > >>> applications anyway. By the way, do you have a 64bit processor?
    > >>
    > >> Please reply to the person who asked the question, not to others in the
    > >> thread.
    > >>
    > >> Thanks.
    > >>

    > >
    > > I'm sure he's reading all the threads my friend, I do when I ask a
    > > question. Actually I think we all do.

    >
    > You sure told him!
    >
    > (To disambiguate my sarcasm: I'm with XS11E 100% on this one.)



    And so am I. And to Mike 2, please note that the word "thread" refers
    to the entire group of messages on a particular subject, not to each
    individual message. So your message, my message, Gene's message, and
    XSE11E's message are all part of a single thread.

    If anyone who doesn't know why the word "thread" is used to describe
    it, let me know and I'll be glad to describe the reason (which I think
    is very interesting).
     
  18. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:00:19 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

    > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:52:21 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    > <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >> On 10 Aug 2010 13:42:01 GMT, Mike 2 wrote:
    >>
    >>> XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns9DCFB18DD924Exs11eyahoocom@
    >>> 127.0.0.1:
    >>>
    >>>> Mike 2 <imnot@home.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
    >>>>> news:Xns9DCF5EA14E8B6xs11eyahoocom@ 127.0.0.1:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Hi, is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7
    >>>>>>> Ultimate 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail
    >>>>>>> DVDs. TIA
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I believe you'll then have problems running any installed 32-bit
    >>>>> applications anyway. By the way, do you have a 64bit processor?
    >>>>
    >>>> Please reply to the person who asked the question, not to others in the
    >>>> thread.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> I'm sure he's reading all the threads my friend, I do when I ask a
    >>> question. Actually I think we all do.

    >>
    >> You sure told him!
    >>
    >> (To disambiguate my sarcasm: I'm with XS11E 100% on this one.)

    >
    >
    > And so am I. And to Mike 2, please note that the word "thread" refers
    > to the entire group of messages on a particular subject, not to each
    > individual message. So your message, my message, Gene's message, and
    > XSE11E's message are all part of a single thread.
    >
    > If anyone who doesn't know why the word "thread" is used to describe
    > it, let me know and I'll be glad to describe the reason (which I think
    > is very interesting).


    Thanks for chiming in, and thanks for pointing out to Mike 2 the meaning of
    thread.

    As for the origin of "thread", if it's not just the obvious meaning and
    analogy, as in threading through a maze or threading a string of beads,
    then I am one who doesn't know the reason for calling them threads, and
    would like to learn it.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  19. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:36:36 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:


    > As for the origin of "thread", if it's not just the obvious meaning and
    > analogy, as in threading through a maze or threading a string of beads,
    > then I am one who doesn't know the reason for calling them threads, and
    > would like to learn it.



    OK. It has to do with list processing. "List" is a technical term and
    isn't just the ordinary use of the word. A list is a bunch of data
    that has more than one sequence as follows:

    1. The physical sequence of the records.

    2. One or more logical sequences that are different from the physical
    sequence.

    So the messages in a newsgroup are a list. Their physical sequence is
    the order in which they were posted. Their logical sequence is the way
    messages in a "thread" are connected--e. g. this message follows
    yours, the one I'm replying to, even though there are usually several
    messages between them in the physical sequence.

    So visualize each message as a shirt button, and think of these
    buttons as parallel to each other in a row arranged in physical
    sequence (date and time). Then think of a thread (this thread, for
    example) as having all the buttons pertinent to it as connected by a
    piece of thread that goes from buttonhole to buttonhole, skipping the
    buttonholes in the messages that are not part of the thread.

    So a "thread" *is* a thread.

    Also note that (although it's not pertinent in a newsgroup) the
    buttons have multiple buttonholes and can therefore participate in
    multiple threads (in other words, have more than one logical
    sequence).
     
  20. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:01:26 -0700, Ken Blake
    <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote:

    >On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:36:36 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    ><not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >
    >> As for the origin of "thread", if it's not just the obvious meaning and
    >> analogy, as in threading through a maze or threading a string of beads,
    >> then I am one who doesn't know the reason for calling them threads, and
    >> would like to learn it.

    >
    >
    >OK. It has to do with list processing. "List" is a technical term and
    >isn't just the ordinary use of the word. A list is a bunch of data
    >that has more than one sequence as follows:
    >
    >1. The physical sequence of the records.
    >
    >2. One or more logical sequences that are different from the physical
    >sequence.
    >
    >So the messages in a newsgroup are a list. Their physical sequence is
    >the order in which they were posted. Their logical sequence is the way
    >messages in a "thread" are connected--e. g. this message follows
    >yours, the one I'm replying to, even though there are usually several
    >messages between them in the physical sequence.
    >
    >So visualize each message as a shirt button, and think of these
    >buttons as parallel to each other in a row arranged in physical
    >sequence (date and time). Then think of a thread (this thread, for
    >example) as having all the buttons pertinent to it as connected by a
    >piece of thread that goes from buttonhole to buttonhole, skipping the
    >buttonholes in the messages that are not part of the thread.
    >
    >So a "thread" *is* a thread.
    >
    >Also note that (although it's not pertinent in a newsgroup) the
    >buttons have multiple buttonholes and can therefore participate in
    >multiple threads (in other words, have more than one logical
    >sequence).
    >


    That looks to be an overly complicated, and overly wordy, restatement
    of Gene's (and my own) understanding.
     

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