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unzipping and even zipping.

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by mm, Jun 11, 2010.

  1. mm

    mm Flightless Bird

    For unzipping, I've used PKZip or MSZip or PowerDesk (which includes
    an unzipper) but my young friend's laptop has none of these.

    Does XP include an unzipper? I can't find one in Windows Explorer,
    except references to PowerDesk (a separate enhanced verions of win
    explorer).

    Yet I never hear people reminded anymore to get a zip utility, or any
    reference to what's good or where to get it.

    The Help has one reference to zipping a folder, but not a file, and no
    relevant reference to unzipping.
     
  2. Bickford Schmeckler

    Bickford Schmeckler Flightless Bird

    Spend some time reading this. And, learn how to Google.

    http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/infopath-help/zip-or-unzip-a-file-HA001127690.aspx?redir=0

    "mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
    news:ip541657eepdtobveloqfl2hi6lu86eevi@4ax.com...
    : For unzipping, I've used PKZip or MSZip or PowerDesk (which includes
    : an unzipper) but my young friend's laptop has none of these.
    :
    : Does XP include an unzipper? I can't find one in Windows Explorer,
    : except references to PowerDesk (a separate enhanced verions of win
    : explorer).
    :
    : Yet I never hear people reminded anymore to get a zip utility, or any
    : reference to what's good or where to get it.
    :
    : The Help has one reference to zipping a folder, but not a file, and no
    : relevant reference to unzipping.
     
  3. Big_Al

    Big_Al Flightless Bird

    mm said this on 6/11/2010 8:18 AM:
    > For unzipping, I've used PKZip or MSZip or PowerDesk (which includes
    > an unzipper) but my young friend's laptop has none of these.
    >
    > Does XP include an unzipper? I can't find one in Windows Explorer,
    > except references to PowerDesk (a separate enhanced verions of win
    > explorer).
    >
    > Yet I never hear people reminded anymore to get a zip utility, or any
    > reference to what's good or where to get it.
    >
    > The Help has one reference to zipping a folder, but not a file, and no
    > relevant reference to unzipping.


    Zip/Unzip are a feature of XP Sp3, at least. Not sure it was in the
    Gold (original) version or not, but it's been there forever in my
    opinion. XP treats a zip file just like a folder. Double click on it
    and it opens like a folder and the contents are browsed just like a
    folder. If you click on a file however you are basically extracting
    it. I don't use that, I use winrar. Once you install a zip or rar
    etc utility it bypasses or supersedes XP's zip.

    7zip is a free utility if you're having issues.
    http://www.7-zip.org/
     
  4. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    Windows calls Zip files Folders. You simply double click them and they open.

    mm wrote:

    > For unzipping, I've used PKZip or MSZip or PowerDesk (which includes
    > an unzipper) but my young friend's laptop has none of these.
    >
    > Does XP include an unzipper? I can't find one in Windows Explorer,
    > except references to PowerDesk (a separate enhanced verions of win
    > explorer).
    >
    > Yet I never hear people reminded anymore to get a zip utility, or any
    > reference to what's good or where to get it.
    >
    > The Help has one reference to zipping a folder, but not a file, and no
    > relevant reference to unzipping.
     
  5. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    mm wrote:
    > For unzipping, I've used PKZip or MSZip or PowerDesk (which includes
    > an unzipper) but my young friend's laptop has none of these.
    >
    > Does XP include an unzipper? I can't find one in Windows Explorer,
    > except references to PowerDesk (a separate enhanced verions of win
    > explorer).
    >
    > Yet I never hear people reminded anymore to get a zip utility, or any
    > reference to what's good or where to get it.
    >
    > The Help has one reference to zipping a folder, but not a file, and no
    > relevant reference to unzipping.


    Double click on the .zip file. Done.

    --
    Alias
     
  6. Tim Slattery

    Tim Slattery Flightless Bird

    mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote:

    >For unzipping, I've used PKZip or MSZip or PowerDesk (which includes
    >an unzipper) but my young friend's laptop has none of these.
    >
    >Does XP include an unzipper? I can't find one in Windows Explorer,
    >except references to PowerDesk (a separate enhanced verions of win
    >explorer).


    XP has builtin support for zipped files. They show up in Windows
    Explorer as directories. You can create a new one by right-clicking on
    the folder you want to create it in, choosing New|Compressed
    Directory. (Approximate, because my machine has WinZip installed, and
    it overrides SP's default handling of zips.)

    --
    Tim Slattery
    Slattery_T@bls.gov
    http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
     
  7. mm

    mm Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:56:30 -0400, Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov>
    wrote:

    >mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote:
    >
    >>For unzipping, I've used PKZip or MSZip or PowerDesk (which includes
    >>an unzipper) but my young friend's laptop has none of these.
    >>
    >>Does XP include an unzipper? I can't find one in Windows Explorer,
    >>except references to PowerDesk (a separate enhanced verions of win
    >>explorer).

    >
    >XP has builtin support for zipped files. They show up in Windows
    >Explorer as directories. You can create a new one by right-clicking on
    >the folder you want to create it in, choosing New|Compressed
    >Directory. (Approximate, because my machine has WinZip installed, and
    >it overrides SP's default handling of zips.)


    Thanks to all of you for your help. I would never have guessed this
    from the Windows Help. I'll have to go back and read it again; maybe
    I'll learn how to understand MicroSpeak.
     
  8. Bickford Schmeckler

    Bickford Schmeckler Flightless Bird

    : Thanks to all of you for your help. I would never have guessed this
    : from the Windows Help. I'll have to go back and read it again; maybe
    : I'll learn how to understand MicroSpeak.

    Google is your friend.
    :
     
  9. Tim Meddick

    Tim Meddick Flightless Bird

    I too have WinZip installed, mainly because of all the other formats that
    WinZip can handle, whereas Windows only handles [.zip] files.

    I also have WinRAR installed for the same reason (WinZip doesn't handle RAR
    archives).

    But I am careful to "uncheck" the box marked "ZIP" on the files that the
    application handles in it's installation process (and also "CAB" as well,
    as I prefer Windows built-in support (cabview) over WinZip's / WinRAR's).

    If you have installed a third-party archiver application, and would like to
    go back to Windows handling of [.zip] files, then open the utility you are
    currently using and in it's "Settings" options for what file-types it
    handles - "uncheck" the box for "ZIP" files.

    Then type the following into the "Run" box on the start menu :

    regsvr32.exe C:/WINDOWS\system32\zipfldr.dll


    ...and you can begin again to use Window's excellent ZIP folder
    functionality.

    Plus, you will still be able to open / create ZIP files with WinZip /WinRAR
    / other archiver.

    ==

    Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




    "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
    news:cfc416p3m55kvlqe984clrlbe7k66bf026@4ax.com...
    > mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote:
    >
    >>For unzipping, I've used PKZip or MSZip or PowerDesk (which includes
    >>an unzipper) but my young friend's laptop has none of these.
    >>
    >>Does XP include an unzipper? I can't find one in Windows Explorer,
    >>except references to PowerDesk (a separate enhanced verions of win
    >>explorer).

    >
    > XP has builtin support for zipped files. They show up in Windows
    > Explorer as directories. You can create a new one by right-clicking on
    > the folder you want to create it in, choosing New|Compressed
    > Directory. (Approximate, because my machine has WinZip installed, and
    > it overrides SP's default handling of zips.)
    >
    > --
    > Tim Slattery
    > Slattery_T@bls.gov
    > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
     
  10. Mike S

    Mike S Flightless Bird

    On 6/11/2010 2:47 PM, Tim Meddick wrote:
    > I too have WinZip installed, mainly because of all the other formats
    > that WinZip can handle, whereas Windows only handles [.zip] files.
    >
    > I also have WinRAR installed for the same reason (WinZip doesn't handle
    > RAR archives).
    >
    > But I am careful to "uncheck" the box marked "ZIP" on the files that the
    > application handles in it's installation process (and also "CAB" as
    > well, as I prefer Windows built-in support (cabview) over WinZip's /
    > WinRAR's).
    >
    > If you have installed a third-party archiver application, and would like
    > to go back to Windows handling of [.zip] files, then open the utility
    > you are currently using and in it's "Settings" options for what
    > file-types it handles - "uncheck" the box for "ZIP" files.
    >
    > Then type the following into the "Run" box on the start menu :
    >
    > regsvr32.exe C:/WINDOWS\system32\zipfldr.dll
    >
    >
    > ..and you can begin again to use Window's excellent ZIP folder
    > functionality.
    >
    > Plus, you will still be able to open / create ZIP files with WinZip
    > /WinRAR / other archiver.
    >
    > ==
    >
    > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
    > news:cfc416p3m55kvlqe984clrlbe7k66bf026@4ax.com...
    >> mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> For unzipping, I've used PKZip or MSZip or PowerDesk (which includes
    >>> an unzipper) but my young friend's laptop has none of these.
    >>>
    >>> Does XP include an unzipper? I can't find one in Windows Explorer,
    >>> except references to PowerDesk (a separate enhanced verions of win
    >>> explorer).

    >>
    >> XP has builtin support for zipped files. They show up in Windows
    >> Explorer as directories. You can create a new one by right-clicking on
    >> the folder you want to create it in, choosing New|Compressed
    >> Directory. (Approximate, because my machine has WinZip installed, and
    >> it overrides SP's default handling of zips.)
    >>
    >> --
    >> Tim Slattery
    >> Slattery_T@bls.gov
    >> http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

    >


    I like IZArc, it supports dozens of compression types, has a great
    intuitive GUI, and it's freeware. If you want to give it a try uninstall
    Winzip and WinRAR and then install IZarc, let it associate the default
    compressed file types that it suggests, and you won't have any more
    trouble understanding what files exist within a zip file, which is not a
    folder to my way of thinking - this confused me too when I first saw it.
    I don't know what they were thinking, I like handling files manually,
    calling a file a folder is just unnecessary confusion in my book.

    Mike
     
  11. Eddie

    Eddie Flightless Bird

    mm wrote:
    > On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:56:30 -0400, Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> For unzipping, I've used PKZip or MSZip or PowerDesk (which includes
    >>> an unzipper) but my young friend's laptop has none of these.
    >>>
    >>> Does XP include an unzipper? I can't find one in Windows Explorer,
    >>> except references to PowerDesk (a separate enhanced verions of win
    >>> explorer).

    >> XP has builtin support for zipped files. They show up in Windows
    >> Explorer as directories. You can create a new one by right-clicking on
    >> the folder you want to create it in, choosing New|Compressed
    >> Directory. (Approximate, because my machine has WinZip installed, and
    >> it overrides SP's default handling of zips.)

    >
    > Thanks to all of you for your help. I would never have guessed this
    > from the Windows Help. I'll have to go back and read it again; maybe
    > I'll learn how to understand MicroSpeak.
    >



    -------

    Do yourself a favour and go fetch WinRar from the link BigAl gave you;
    your right-click context menu will have lots of options after you have
    installed WinRar. (ps, you'll soon get the hang of it.)

    Ed
     

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