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uninstalling Windows Live - good idea?

A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
I'm thinking of uninstalling Windows Live as a way of lightening
my software footprint (and also because it says it is going to
collect data on me if I use it). Curiously, when I Google I can't
find anything critical about Windows Live. This surprises me.
Usually there are tons of critical comments about various
Microsoft software products. What gives? Anyone notice this?

-Al-
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
news:MIU0n.58727$Db2.33777@edtnps83...
> I'm thinking of uninstalling Windows Live as a way of lightening my
> software footprint (and also because it says it is going to collect data
> on me if I use it). Curiously, when I Google I can't find anything
> critical about Windows Live. This surprises me. Usually there are tons
> of critical comments about various Microsoft software products. What
> gives? Anyone notice this?
>
> -Al-



Windows Live Mail? Windows Live Messenger? Windows Live Hotmail? Windows
Live what?
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Bruce Hagen wrote:
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:MIU0n.58727$Db2.33777@edtnps83...
>> I'm thinking of uninstalling Windows Live as a way of lightening my
>> software footprint (and also because it says it is going to collect
>> data on me if I use it). Curiously, when I Google I can't find
>> anything critical about Windows Live. This surprises me. Usually there
>> are tons of critical comments about various Microsoft software
>> products. What gives? Anyone notice this?
>>
>> -Al-

>
>
> Windows Live Mail? Windows Live Messenger? Windows Live Hotmail? Windows
> Live what?




Windows Live everything.

-Al-
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
news:dYU0n.58732$Db2.34293@edtnps83...
> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>> news:MIU0n.58727$Db2.33777@edtnps83...
>>> I'm thinking of uninstalling Windows Live as a way of lightening my
>>> software footprint (and also because it says it is going to collect
>>> data on me if I use it). Curiously, when I Google I can't find
>>> anything critical about Windows Live. This surprises me. Usually there
>>> are tons of critical comments about various Microsoft software
>>> products. What gives? Anyone notice this?
>>>
>>> -Al-

>>
>>
>> Windows Live Mail? Windows Live Messenger? Windows Live Hotmail?
>> Windows
>> Live what?

>
>
>
> Windows Live everything.
>
> -Al-



Well, I never heard of Windows Live Everything, or that it gathers
information from you. But if you don't need Windows Live Everything, by
all means, remove it.

I hope you understand my reply, because I don't.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Bruce Hagen wrote:
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:dYU0n.58732$Db2.34293@edtnps83...
>> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>> news:MIU0n.58727$Db2.33777@edtnps83...
>>>> I'm thinking of uninstalling Windows Live as a way of lightening my
>>>> software footprint (and also because it says it is going to collect
>>>> data on me if I use it). Curiously, when I Google I can't find
>>>> anything critical about Windows Live. This surprises me. Usually there
>>>> are tons of critical comments about various Microsoft software
>>>> products. What gives? Anyone notice this?
>>>>
>>>> -Al-
>>>
>>>
>>> Windows Live Mail? Windows Live Messenger? Windows Live Hotmail? Windows
>>> Live what?

>>
>>
>>
>> Windows Live everything.
>>
>> -Al-

>
>
> Well, I never heard of Windows Live Everything, or that it gathers
> information from you. But if you don't need Windows Live Everything, by
> all means, remove it.
>
> I hope you understand my reply, because I don't.



When I clicked on a Windows Live component for the first time, a
box came up informing me that if I ran it, Microsoft would be
collecting bits of personal information from my computer, and that
running it was confirmation that I was OK with that. Well, I'm
really not OK with that. I don't even run cookies when I surf the
Web. I can't see that any of the Windows Live components are of
any value to me, so I've more or less decided to remove them. But
I decided to check first to see if they have caused problems for
anyone, or what others have to say about their value. I was
surprised at the lack of negative comments about the entire
complex of Windows Live components ... some people don't seem to
like the e-mail part of it very much, though. Getting rid of
Windows Live is just part of the software pruning process for me.
I always delete anything I don't absolutely need and use.

-Al-
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
news:w5V0n.58733$Db2.53903@edtnps83...
> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>
>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>> news:dYU0n.58732$Db2.34293@edtnps83...
>>> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:MIU0n.58727$Db2.33777@edtnps83...
>>>>> I'm thinking of uninstalling Windows Live as a way of lightening my
>>>>> software footprint (and also because it says it is going to collect
>>>>> data on me if I use it). Curiously, when I Google I can't find
>>>>> anything critical about Windows Live. This surprises me. Usually
>>>>> there
>>>>> are tons of critical comments about various Microsoft software
>>>>> products. What gives? Anyone notice this?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Al-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Windows Live Mail? Windows Live Messenger? Windows Live Hotmail?
>>>> Windows
>>>> Live what?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Windows Live everything.
>>>
>>> -Al-

>>
>>
>> Well, I never heard of Windows Live Everything, or that it gathers
>> information from you. But if you don't need Windows Live Everything, by
>> all means, remove it.
>>
>> I hope you understand my reply, because I don't.

>
>
> When I clicked on a Windows Live component for the first time, a box
> came up informing me that if I ran it, Microsoft would be collecting
> bits of personal information from my computer, and that running it was
> confirmation that I was OK with that. Well, I'm really not OK with that.
> I don't even run cookies when I surf the Web. I can't see that any of
> the Windows Live components are of any value to me, so I've more or less
> decided to remove them. But I decided to check first to see if they have
> caused problems for anyone, or what others have to say about their
> value. I was surprised at the lack of negative comments about the entire
> complex of Windows Live components ... some people don't seem to like
> the e-mail part of it very much, though. Getting rid of Windows Live is
> just part of the software pruning process for me. I always delete
> anything I don't absolutely need and use.
>
> -Al-



I have Windows Live Mail (only) on one of my machines. Nothing else
"Live". Personally, I dislike it completely. I do not care about anything
that MS produces with the "Live" concept. This is more of a preference
choice. IMHO, Windows Live Mail was developed as the developers thought it
should be, and not from the feedback received by OE and WinMail users over
the years.

I believe what you refer to is downloading Windows Live Essentials. That
is what gave you 4 or 5 programs to choose from, WLMail being one of them.

If you have no use for them, then by all means remove them. (I only have
WLMail to help me be of help others, otherwise???).

As far as the data collection goes, nothing personal is included so that
part of your query may be a tad paranoid.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
 
F

Fred

Flightless Bird
"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
news:w5V0n.58733$Db2.53903@edtnps83...
> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>
>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>> news:dYU0n.58732$Db2.34293@edtnps83...
>>> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:MIU0n.58727$Db2.33777@edtnps83...
>>>>> I'm thinking of uninstalling Windows Live as a way of lightening my
>>>>> software footprint (and also because it says it is going to collect
>>>>> data on me if I use it). Curiously, when I Google I can't find
>>>>> anything critical about Windows Live. This surprises me. Usually there
>>>>> are tons of critical comments about various Microsoft software
>>>>> products. What gives? Anyone notice this?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Al-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Windows Live Mail? Windows Live Messenger? Windows Live Hotmail?
>>>> Windows
>>>> Live what?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Windows Live everything.
>>>
>>> -Al-

>>
>>
>> Well, I never heard of Windows Live Everything, or that it gathers
>> information from you. But if you don't need Windows Live Everything, by
>> all means, remove it.
>>
>> I hope you understand my reply, because I don't.

>
>
> When I clicked on a Windows Live component for the first time, a box came
> up informing me that if I ran it, Microsoft would be collecting bits of
> personal information from my computer, and that running it was
> confirmation that I was OK with that. Well, I'm really not OK with that. I
> don't even run cookies when I surf the Web. I can't see that any of the
> Windows Live components are of any value to me, so I've more or less
> decided to remove them. But I decided to check first to see if they have
> caused problems for anyone, or what others have to say about their value.
> I was surprised at the lack of negative comments about the entire complex
> of Windows Live components ... some people don't seem to like the e-mail
> part of it very much, though. Getting rid of Windows Live is just part of
> the software pruning process for me. I always delete anything I don't
> absolutely need and use.
>
> -Al-

Just uninsall it then. but you will need some email program I presume. You
can always reinstall it.
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Bruce Hagen wrote:
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:w5V0n.58733$Db2.53903@edtnps83...
>> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>>
>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dYU0n.58732$Db2.34293@edtnps83...
>>>> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:MIU0n.58727$Db2.33777@edtnps83...
>>>>>> I'm thinking of uninstalling Windows Live as a way of lightening my
>>>>>> software footprint (and also because it says it is going to collect
>>>>>> data on me if I use it). Curiously, when I Google I can't find
>>>>>> anything critical about Windows Live. This surprises me. Usually
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are tons of critical comments about various Microsoft software
>>>>>> products. What gives? Anyone notice this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Live Mail? Windows Live Messenger? Windows Live Hotmail?
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> Live what?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Windows Live everything.
>>>>
>>>> -Al-
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I never heard of Windows Live Everything, or that it gathers
>>> information from you. But if you don't need Windows Live Everything, by
>>> all means, remove it.
>>>
>>> I hope you understand my reply, because I don't.

>>
>>
>> When I clicked on a Windows Live component for the first time, a box
>> came up informing me that if I ran it, Microsoft would be collecting
>> bits of personal information from my computer, and that running it was
>> confirmation that I was OK with that. Well, I'm really not OK with
>> that. I don't even run cookies when I surf the Web. I can't see that
>> any of the Windows Live components are of any value to me, so I've
>> more or less decided to remove them. But I decided to check first to
>> see if they have caused problems for anyone, or what others have to
>> say about their value. I was surprised at the lack of negative
>> comments about the entire complex of Windows Live components ... some
>> people don't seem to like the e-mail part of it very much, though.
>> Getting rid of Windows Live is just part of the software pruning
>> process for me. I always delete anything I don't absolutely need and use.
>>
>> -Al-

>
>
> I have Windows Live Mail (only) on one of my machines. Nothing else
> "Live". Personally, I dislike it completely. I do not care about
> anything that MS produces with the "Live" concept. This is more of a
> preference choice. IMHO, Windows Live Mail was developed as the
> developers thought it should be, and not from the feedback received by
> OE and WinMail users over the years.
>
> I believe what you refer to is downloading Windows Live Essentials. That
> is what gave you 4 or 5 programs to choose from, WLMail being one of them.
>
> If you have no use for them, then by all means remove them. (I only have
> WLMail to help me be of help others, otherwise???).
>
> As far as the data collection goes, nothing personal is included so that
> part of your query may be a tad paranoid.



My feelings pretty much mirror yours. This stuff was on my Dell
when I got it. I'm going to get rid of all of it.

-Al-
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Fred wrote:
> "Al Smith"<invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:w5V0n.58733$Db2.53903@edtnps83...
>> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>>
>>> "Al Smith"<invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dYU0n.58732$Db2.34293@edtnps83...
>>>> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>>>> "Al Smith"<invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:MIU0n.58727$Db2.33777@edtnps83...
>>>>>> I'm thinking of uninstalling Windows Live as a way of lightening my
>>>>>> software footprint (and also because it says it is going to collect
>>>>>> data on me if I use it). Curiously, when I Google I can't find
>>>>>> anything critical about Windows Live. This surprises me. Usually there
>>>>>> are tons of critical comments about various Microsoft software
>>>>>> products. What gives? Anyone notice this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Live Mail? Windows Live Messenger? Windows Live Hotmail?
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> Live what?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Windows Live everything.
>>>>
>>>> -Al-
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I never heard of Windows Live Everything, or that it gathers
>>> information from you. But if you don't need Windows Live Everything, by
>>> all means, remove it.
>>>
>>> I hope you understand my reply, because I don't.

>>
>>
>> When I clicked on a Windows Live component for the first time, a box came
>> up informing me that if I ran it, Microsoft would be collecting bits of
>> personal information from my computer, and that running it was
>> confirmation that I was OK with that. Well, I'm really not OK with that. I
>> don't even run cookies when I surf the Web. I can't see that any of the
>> Windows Live components are of any value to me, so I've more or less
>> decided to remove them. But I decided to check first to see if they have
>> caused problems for anyone, or what others have to say about their value.
>> I was surprised at the lack of negative comments about the entire complex
>> of Windows Live components ... some people don't seem to like the e-mail
>> part of it very much, though. Getting rid of Windows Live is just part of
>> the software pruning process for me. I always delete anything I don't
>> absolutely need and use.
>>
>> -Al-

> Just uninsall it then. but you will need some email program I presume. You
> can always reinstall it.
>
>


Seamonkey has built-in e-mail, which works just fine.

-Al-
 
O

Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:hi16c4$shq$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:dYU0n.58732$Db2.34293@edtnps83...
>> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>> news:MIU0n.58727$Db2.33777@edtnps83...
>>>> I'm thinking of uninstalling Windows Live as a way of lightening my
>>>> software footprint (and also because it says it is going to collect
>>>> data on me if I use it). Curiously, when I Google I can't find
>>>> anything critical about Windows Live. This surprises me. Usually there
>>>> are tons of critical comments about various Microsoft software
>>>> products. What gives? Anyone notice this?
>>>>
>>>> -Al-
>>>
>>>
>>> Windows Live Mail? Windows Live Messenger? Windows Live Hotmail? Windows
>>> Live what?

>>
>>
>>
>> Windows Live everything.
>>
>> -Al-

>
>
> Well, I never heard of Windows Live Everything, or that it gathers
> information from you. But if you don't need Windows Live Everything, by
> all means, remove it.
>
> I hope you understand my reply, because I don't.


lol that's a relief!

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