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Ubuntu Rulez! Windows 7 Drools.

A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ever wonder why that is?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really? And which of the 500+ linux distros would be offered?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's called brilliant marketing of a worth while product.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> linux shot itself in the foot and is permanently hobbled because
>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>> open sores.
>>>>>>>> Oops!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Being an ignorant asshole is no way to go through life, son.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know, Billy doesn't love you back. He only wants your money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *plonk*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which Frank happily pays and then brags about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You're one broke POS loser huh?
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> LIAR!
>>>>
>>>>> Or just a lying thief?
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> More of your lies?
>>>>
>>>>> Figures!
>>>>
>>>> You and "figures" is an oxymoron, moron.
>>>>
>>>>> Oops!
>>>>
>>>> Yep, you are Mr Oops. I'll give you that.
>>>>
>>>> ...LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Laughing at your own stupidity is pretty stupid, Frank.
>>>
>>> I, along with everyone else in this ng are laughing at you, you
>>> stupid pile of useless thieving lying linturd shit!
>>> Oops!...Hahahah!
>>> You *DUMB FUCK*!
>>
>> More one trick pony drivel. Ho hum.
>>
> You have a real problem dealing with the truth, don't you cody.

You and the truth is an oxymoron, moron.

--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ever wonder why that is?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really? And which of the 500+ linux distros would be offered?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's called brilliant marketing of a worth while product.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> linux shot itself in the foot and is permanently hobbled because
>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>> open sores.
>>>>>>>> Oops!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Being an ignorant asshole is no way to go through life, son.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know, Billy doesn't love you back. He only wants your money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *plonk*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which Frank happily pays and then brags about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You're one broke POS loser huh?
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> LIAR!
>>>>
>>>>> Or just a lying thief?
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> More of your lies?
>>>>
>>>>> Figures!
>>>>
>>>> You and "figures" is an oxymoron, moron.
>>>>
>>>>> Oops!
>>>>
>>>> Yep, you are Mr Oops. I'll give you that.
>>>>
>>>> ...LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Laughing at your own stupidity is pretty stupid, Frank.
>>>
>>> I, along with everyone else in this ng are laughing at you, you
>>> stupid pile of useless thieving lying linturd shit!
>>> Oops!...Hahahah!
>>> You *DUMB FUCK*!
>>
>> More one trick pony drivel. Ho hum.
>>
> You have a real problem dealing with the truth, don't you cody.

Ho hum, the same lying crap from the same one trick pony.

--
Alias
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ever wonder why that is?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really? And which of the 500+ linux distros would be offered?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's called brilliant marketing of a worth while product.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> linux shot itself in the foot and is permanently hobbled
>>>>>>>>> because its
>>>>>>>>> open sores.
>>>>>>>>> Oops!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Being an ignorant asshole is no way to go through life, son.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You know, Billy doesn't love you back. He only wants your money.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *plonk*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which Frank happily pays and then brags about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're one broke POS loser huh?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> LIAR!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or just a lying thief?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> More of your lies?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Figures!
>>>>>
>>>>> You and "figures" is an oxymoron, moron.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oops!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, you are Mr Oops. I'll give you that.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Laughing at your own stupidity is pretty stupid, Frank.
>>>>
>>>> I, along with everyone else in this ng are laughing at you, you
>>>> stupid pile of useless thieving lying linturd shit!
>>>> Oops!...Hahahah!
>>>> You *DUMB FUCK*!
>>>
>>> More one trick pony drivel. Ho hum.
>>>
>> You have a real problem dealing with the truth, don't you cody.
>
> You and the truth is an oxymoron, moron.
>

Well cody, aka alias the LIAR, you can't keep your big lying stupid
mouth shut can you?
You only dig deeper into that abyss of lies you call your life.
Print this out and have a responsible adult explain it to you.

#1 lie from cody, aka cody, aka alias is:
pushing linux as an alternative to Windows 7 in this Windows 7 ng is "on
topic"...Hahahahaha...YOU SICK FUCK!!!
#2 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I do not spam this ng with ubuntu spam"
#3 lie from cody, aka alias is::
...."I am not trolling this Windows 7 ng with linux/ubuntu
bullshit"...Hahaha!
#4 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I make $14,000 per week"...Hahahaha...you lying sick FUCK!
#5 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I was in the 101st U.S. Army Airborne Division"...Hahaha!
#6 lie from cody, aka alias is:...
I am not a liar"!...Hahaha!
Now post your lying response here *sport* --->
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ever wonder why that is?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really? And which of the 500+ linux distros would be offered?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's called brilliant marketing of a worth while product.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> linux shot itself in the foot and is permanently hobbled
>>>>>>>>> because its
>>>>>>>>> open sores.
>>>>>>>>> Oops!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Being an ignorant asshole is no way to go through life, son.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You know, Billy doesn't love you back. He only wants your money.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *plonk*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which Frank happily pays and then brags about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're one broke POS loser huh?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> LIAR!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or just a lying thief?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> More of your lies?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Figures!
>>>>>
>>>>> You and "figures" is an oxymoron, moron.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oops!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, you are Mr Oops. I'll give you that.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Laughing at your own stupidity is pretty stupid, Frank.
>>>>
>>>> I, along with everyone else in this ng are laughing at you, you
>>>> stupid pile of useless thieving lying linturd shit!
>>>> Oops!...Hahahah!
>>>> You *DUMB FUCK*!
>>>
>>> More one trick pony drivel. Ho hum.
>>>
>> You have a real problem dealing with the truth, don't you cody.
>
> Ho hum, the same lying crap from the same one trick pony.
>
Well cody, aka alias the LIAR, you can't keep your big lying stupid
mouth shut can you?
You only dig deeper into that abyss of lies you call your life.
Print this out and have a responsible adult explain it to you.

#1 lie from cody, aka cody, aka alias is:
pushing linux as an alternative to Windows 7 in this Windows 7 ng is "on
topic"...Hahahahaha...YOU SICK FUCK!!!
#2 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I do not spam this ng with ubuntu spam"
#3 lie from cody, aka alias is::
...."I am not trolling this Windows 7 ng with linux/ubuntu
bullshit"...Hahaha!
#4 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I make $14,000 per week"...Hahahaha...you lying sick FUCK!
#5 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I was in the 101st U.S. Army Airborne Division"...Hahaha!
#6 lie from cody, aka alias is:...
I am not a liar"!...Hahaha!
Now post your lying response here *sport* --->
 
C

Conor

Flightless Bird
In article <hiadbk$l68$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Alias says...
>
> Frank wrote:
> > Alias wrote:
> >> chrisv wrote:
> >>> Frank wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ever wonder why that is?
> >>>>
> >>>> Really? And which of the 500+ linux distros would be offered?
> >>>>
> >>>> It's called brilliant marketing of a worth while product.
> >>>>
> >>>> linux shot itself in the foot and is permanently hobbled because its
> >>>> open sores.
> >>>> Oops!
> >>>
> >>> Being an ignorant asshole is no way to go through life, son.
> >>>
> >>> You know, Billy doesn't love you back. He only wants your money.
> >>>
> >>> *plonk*
> >>
> >> Which Frank happily pays and then brags about it.
> >>
> > You're one broke POS loser huh?
>
> Nope.
>
> > Or just a lying thief?
>
> Nope.
>
> > Figures!
>
> You and "figures" is an oxymoron, moron.
>
Why didn't you reply when I said Windows 7 has gained 5 time more market
share than Linux in 1/40th of the time?


--
Conor
www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk

I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Conor wrote:
> In article <hiadbk$l68$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Alias says...
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ever wonder why that is?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? And which of the 500+ linux distros would be offered?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's called brilliant marketing of a worth while product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> linux shot itself in the foot and is permanently hobbled because its
>>>>>> open sores.
>>>>>> Oops!
>>>>> Being an ignorant asshole is no way to go through life, son.
>>>>>
>>>>> You know, Billy doesn't love you back. He only wants your money.
>>>>>
>>>>> *plonk*
>>>> Which Frank happily pays and then brags about it.
>>>>
>>> You're one broke POS loser huh?
>> Nope.
>>
>>> Or just a lying thief?
>> Nope.
>>
>>> Figures!
>> You and "figures" is an oxymoron, moron.
>>
> Why didn't you reply when I said Windows 7 has gained 5 time more market
> share than Linux in 1/40th of the time?
>
>

Do you really think you're that important?

--
Alias
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Conor wrote:
>> In article <hiadbk$l68$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Alias says...
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ever wonder why that is?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? And which of the 500+ linux distros would be offered?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's called brilliant marketing of a worth while product.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> linux shot itself in the foot and is permanently hobbled because its
>>>>>>> open sores.
>>>>>>> Oops!
>>>>>> Being an ignorant asshole is no way to go through life, son.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know, Billy doesn't love you back. He only wants your money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *plonk*
>>>>> Which Frank happily pays and then brags about it.
>>>>>
>>>> You're one broke POS loser huh?
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>>> Or just a lying thief?
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>>> Figures!
>>> You and "figures" is an oxymoron, moron.
>>>
>> Why didn't you reply when I said Windows 7 has gained 5 time more
>> market share than Linux in 1/40th of the time?
>>
>>
>
> Do you really think you're that important?
>
And you? Oh the irony!
Oops!
 
L

Lee Waun

Flightless Bird
"Nothingspecial" <nothingspecial4u2c@blogmail.org> wrote in message
news:10umpmx3kjcdm$.6ke9yj1w1mgm.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 12:19:14 -0800, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>
>> "PeterKöhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote in message
>> news:hi83lt$utp$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:i90fk55o0hegfbqfrf97o894cb7leeko9m@4ax.com...
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ubuntu has been free for years yet hasn't taken over lead on the
>>>>>>> desktop.
>>>>>>> The above statement is FACT you IDIOT.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not what's in dispute, you dumbshit. What was claimed was that
>>>>> "real world consumers rejected" Linux. No such thing occurred.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you stupid? You are not following very well. Maybe you have
>>>> reading
>>>> comprehension problems. Better turn off your computer. Go outside.
>>>> Pick some trash on the side of the road.
>>>
>>> Follow your own advice, then. Because he is right, and you are not
>>>
>>> --
>> Real world consumers do reject Linux by the millions. Maybe you should
>> follow the advice.
>
> Most never get the chance to try Linux because their computers come
> pre-loaded with Windows. Things might be different if the consumer was
> offered a choice of a Windows machine, a Linux machine or a machine
> with no operating system on it.
> The problem is that Microsoft has such a huge installed base, Linux
> has a difficult time overcoming the Microsoft inertia effect. If
> people aren't using Linux it's not because of the quality of Linux
> because Linux is at least as good as Windows in many ways, better in
> most and not as good in some others.
> --
> Nothingspecial
> Pickers Rule!
> 1/8/2010 7:49:19 PM

When netbooks came out the majority came with linux installed on them. MSI
has stopped installing linux on it's netbooks as the rate of returns for
netbooks with linux on them was 3 times higher than models that had win xp
on them.

Here is a case of the manufacturer offering linux and the public rejected
it. Linux machines where also cheaper than machines with win xp on them but
it sill didn't matter the more expensive win xp machines outsold the linux
machines despite being cheaper.
 
R

Rick

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 03:47:59 +0000, Lee Waun wrote:

> "Nothingspecial" <nothingspecial4u2c@blogmail.org> wrote in message
> news:10umpmx3kjcdm$.6ke9yj1w1mgm.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 12:19:14 -0800, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>
>>> "PeterKöhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote in message
>>> news:hi83lt$utp$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:i90fk55o0hegfbqfrf97o894cb7leeko9m@4ax.com...
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ubuntu has been free for years yet hasn't taken over lead on the
>>>>>>>> desktop.
>>>>>>>> The above statement is FACT you IDIOT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not what's in dispute, you dumbshit. What was claimed was
>>>>>> that "real world consumers rejected" Linux. No such thing
>>>>>> occurred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Are you stupid? You are not following very well. Maybe you have
>>>>> reading
>>>>> comprehension problems. Better turn off your computer. Go outside.
>>>>> Pick some trash on the side of the road.
>>>>
>>>> Follow your own advice, then. Because he is right, and you are not
>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Real world consumers do reject Linux by the millions. Maybe you
>>> should follow the advice.
>>
>> Most never get the chance to try Linux because their computers come
>> pre-loaded with Windows. Things might be different if the consumer was
>> offered a choice of a Windows machine, a Linux machine or a machine
>> with no operating system on it.
>> The problem is that Microsoft has such a huge installed base, Linux has
>> a difficult time overcoming the Microsoft inertia effect. If people
>> aren't using Linux it's not because of the quality of Linux because
>> Linux is at least as good as Windows in many ways, better in most and
>> not as good in some others.
>> --
>> Nothingspecial
>> Pickers Rule!
>> 1/8/2010 7:49:19 PM
>
> When netbooks came out the majority came with linux installed on them.
> MSI has stopped installing linux on it's netbooks as the rate of returns
> for netbooks with linux on them was 3 times higher than models that had
> win xp on them.
>
> Here is a case of the manufacturer offering linux and the public
> rejected it. Linux machines where also cheaper than machines with win xp
> on them but it sill didn't matter the more expensive win xp machines
> outsold the linux machines despite being cheaper.

If you check, you should find that there are some that say that it was
MSI's poor configuration of their Linux distro that was the main cause of
the returns. Along with customers expecting one product, and getting
another.

Asus and Dell don't seem to have higher return rates for Linux based
sytems:
Windows and Linux return rate similar on Eee PC
<http://eeepc.net/windows-and-linux-return-rate-similar-on-eee-pc/>


Linux Netbooks DO NOT See Higher Return Rates - Dell
<http://netbooked.net/blog/linux-netbooks-do-not-see-higher-return-rates-
dell/>


As for "MSI has stopped installing linux on it's netbooks:
<http://www.msimobile.com/level2_productlist.aspx?id=7&order=price>

As for future MSI LInux based netbooks:

MSI to offer SUSE/Moblin Linux on the Wind U135 netbook
<http://www.liliputing.com/2010/01/msi-to-offer-susemoblin-linux-on-the-
wind-u135-netbook.html>




--
Rick
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Lee Waun wrote:
>
> "Nothingspecial" <nothingspecial4u2c@blogmail.org> wrote in message
> news:10umpmx3kjcdm$.6ke9yj1w1mgm.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 12:19:14 -0800, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>
>>> "PeterKöhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote in message
>>> news:hi83lt$utp$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:i90fk55o0hegfbqfrf97o894cb7leeko9m@4ax.com...
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ubuntu has been free for years yet hasn't taken over lead on the
>>>>>>>> desktop.
>>>>>>>> The above statement is FACT you IDIOT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not what's in dispute, you dumbshit. What was claimed was
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> "real world consumers rejected" Linux. No such thing occurred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you stupid? You are not following very well. Maybe you have
>>>>> reading
>>>>> comprehension problems. Better turn off your computer. Go outside.
>>>>> Pick some trash on the side of the road.
>>>>
>>>> Follow your own advice, then. Because he is right, and you are not
>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Real world consumers do reject Linux by the millions. Maybe you should
>>> follow the advice.
>>
>> Most never get the chance to try Linux because their computers come
>> pre-loaded with Windows. Things might be different if the consumer was
>> offered a choice of a Windows machine, a Linux machine or a machine
>> with no operating system on it.
>> The problem is that Microsoft has such a huge installed base, Linux
>> has a difficult time overcoming the Microsoft inertia effect. If
>> people aren't using Linux it's not because of the quality of Linux
>> because Linux is at least as good as Windows in many ways, better in
>> most and not as good in some others.
>> --
>> Nothingspecial
>> Pickers Rule!
>> 1/8/2010 7:49:19 PM
>
> When netbooks came out the majority came with linux installed on them.
> MSI has stopped installing linux on it's netbooks as the rate of returns
> for netbooks with linux on them was 3 times higher than models that had
> win xp on them.
>
> Here is a case of the manufacturer offering linux and the public
> rejected it. Linux machines where also cheaper than machines with win xp
> on them but it sill didn't matter the more expensive win xp machines
> outsold the linux machines despite being cheaper.
>
>
>

And, of course, you don't believe that MS lowered its XP price to
counter Linux being on a netbook.

--
Alias
 
C

ceed

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:10:22 -0600, Alias <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote:

> When netbooks came out the majority came with linux installed on them.
> MSI has stopped installing linux on it's netbooks as the rate of returns
> for netbooks with linux on them was 3 times higher than models that had
> win xp on them.
> Here is a case of the manufacturer offering linux and the public
> rejected it. Linux machines where also cheaper than machines with win xp
> on them but it sill didn't matter the more expensive win xp machines
> outsold the linux machines despite being cheaper.

> And, of course, you don't believe that MS lowered its XP price to
> counter Linux being on a netbook.

I believe that they did that, and if I was a stock holder I would expect
them to do that. They are a commercial business who are expected to fight
competition. MS do not always do that fairly and honestly, but lowering
the prices on a product is, in my opinion, acceptable practice depending
on how low they would go. If the price got close to zero or even zero it
would be more problematic. I would then consider it dumping which
ethically isn't acceptable, and in some instances illegal.

--
//ceed
 
C

chrisv

Flightless Bird
Nothingspecial wrote:

> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>
>> Real world consumers do reject Linux by the millions. Maybe you
>> should follow the advice.
>
> Most never get the chance to try Linux because their computers come
> pre-loaded with Windows.

Is there just some rule that Windows supporters have to be liars and
mental midgets?

Why can't we see someone say "Windows works better for me but I can see
where Linux might be better for some others" without resorting to being a
lying jackass?
 
C

chrisv

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:

> Conor wrote:
>>
>> Why didn't you reply when I said Windows 7 has gained 5 time more
>> market share than Linux in 1/40th of the time?
>>
> Do you really think you're that important?

It's no wonder Micro$oft's market share is so great, when, apparently,
there's a huge segment of mental midgets who think that market share
equals goodness. It just self-perpetuates.
 
S

Snit

Flightless Bird
Rick stated in post 5eqdnWM__6HqXtTWnZ2dnUVZ_uli4p2d@supernews.com on
1/10/10 5:09 AM:

....
>> When netbooks came out the majority came with linux installed on them.
>> MSI has stopped installing linux on it's netbooks as the rate of returns
>> for netbooks with linux on them was 3 times higher than models that had
>> win xp on them.
>>
>> Here is a case of the manufacturer offering linux and the public
>> rejected it. Linux machines where also cheaper than machines with win xp
>> on them but it sill didn't matter the more expensive win xp machines
>> outsold the linux machines despite being cheaper.
>
> If you check, you should find that there are some that say that it was
> MSI's poor configuration of their Linux distro that was the main cause of
> the returns. Along with customers expecting one product, and getting
> another.

In your opinion.

> Asus and Dell don't seem to have higher return rates for Linux based
> sytems:
> Windows and Linux return rate similar on Eee PC
> <http://eeepc.net/windows-and-linux-return-rate-similar-on-eee-pc/>

Herd mentality.

> Linux Netbooks DO NOT See Higher Return Rates - Dell
> <http://netbooked.net/blog/linux-netbooks-do-not-see-higher-return-rates-
> dell/>

Network effects.

> As for "MSI has stopped installing linux on it's netbooks:
> <http://www.msimobile.com/level2_productlist.aspx?id=7&order=price>
>
> As for future MSI LInux based netbooks:
>
> MSI to offer SUSE/Moblin Linux on the Wind U135 netbook
> <http://www.liliputing.com/2010/01/msi-to-offer-susemoblin-linux-on-the-
> wind-u135-netbook.html>

In your opinion.



--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Lee Waun wrote:
>>
>> "Nothingspecial" <nothingspecial4u2c@blogmail.org> wrote in message
>> news:10umpmx3kjcdm$.6ke9yj1w1mgm.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 12:19:14 -0800, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>
>>>> "PeterKöhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote in message
>>>> news:hi83lt$utp$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:i90fk55o0hegfbqfrf97o894cb7leeko9m@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu has been free for years yet hasn't taken over lead on the
>>>>>>>>> desktop.
>>>>>>>>> The above statement is FACT you IDIOT.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's not what's in dispute, you dumbshit. What was claimed was
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> "real world consumers rejected" Linux. No such thing occurred.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you stupid? You are not following very well. Maybe you have
>>>>>> reading
>>>>>> comprehension problems. Better turn off your computer. Go outside.
>>>>>> Pick some trash on the side of the road.
>>>>>
>>>>> Follow your own advice, then. Because he is right, and you are not
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> Real world consumers do reject Linux by the millions. Maybe you
>>>> should
>>>> follow the advice.
>>>
>>> Most never get the chance to try Linux because their computers come
>>> pre-loaded with Windows. Things might be different if the consumer was
>>> offered a choice of a Windows machine, a Linux machine or a machine
>>> with no operating system on it.
>>> The problem is that Microsoft has such a huge installed base, Linux
>>> has a difficult time overcoming the Microsoft inertia effect. If
>>> people aren't using Linux it's not because of the quality of Linux
>>> because Linux is at least as good as Windows in many ways, better in
>>> most and not as good in some others.
>>> --
>>> Nothingspecial
>>> Pickers Rule!
>>> 1/8/2010 7:49:19 PM
>>
>> When netbooks came out the majority came with linux installed on them.
>> MSI has stopped installing linux on it's netbooks as the rate of
>> returns for netbooks with linux on them was 3 times higher than models
>> that had win xp on them.
>>
>> Here is a case of the manufacturer offering linux and the public
>> rejected it. Linux machines where also cheaper than machines with win
>> xp on them but it sill didn't matter the more expensive win xp
>> machines outsold the linux machines despite being cheaper.
>>
>>
>>
>
> And, of course, you don't believe that MS lowered its XP price to
> counter Linux being on a netbook.
>
Too bad linux can't lower their price.
 
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Frank

Flightless Bird
chrisv wrote:
> Nothingspecial wrote:
>
>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>> Real world consumers do reject Linux by the millions. Maybe you
>>> should follow the advice.
>> Most never get the chance to try Linux because their computers come
>> pre-loaded with Windows.
>
> Is there just some rule that Windows supporters have to be liars and
> mental midgets?
>
> Why can't we see someone say "Windows works better for me but I can see
> where Linux might be better for some others" without resorting to being a
> lying jackass?

Cause that is simply not true. One needs only one OS...Windows 7...PERIOD!

Don't believe me? Theoretically take a Mother, Father and say 8 yr old
child (typical family) into a big box store that offers computers with
either Windows, linux (any of the 500+ distros) or Apple installed. Its
the consumers choice which one they want.
Which one, and only which one will fulfill ALL of the computing needs of
this family?
Well...?
NO FUCKING LYING ALLOWED!!!
Oops!
 
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ceed

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:10:18 -0600, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:

> Is there just some rule that Windows supporters have to be liars and
> mental midgets? Why can't we see someone say "Windows works better for
> me but I can see where Linux might be better for some others" without
> resorting to being a lying jackass?

> Cause that is simply not true. One needs only one OS...Windows
> 7...PERIOD!

"One needs"? I am one I and I do not need Windows 7.

> Don't believe me? Theoretically take a Mother, Father and say 8 yr old
> child (typical family) into a big box store that offers computers with
> either Windows, linux (any of the 500+ distros) or Apple installed. Its
> the consumers choice which one they want.
> Which one, and only which one will fulfill ALL of the computing needs of
> this family?

If we're talking my family we could probably live with all three
alternatives. I have chosen Linux for us, and since the others do not
really care as long as they can do their stuff, Linux it is. There's been
some growling from the kids when the occasional game has needed some extra
attention to get it to work.

> Well...?

All well!

> NO FUCKING LYING ALLOWED!!!

Ok,

> Oops!


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Frank

Flightless Bird
ceed wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:10:18 -0600, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>
>> Is there just some rule that Windows supporters have to be liars and
>> mental midgets? Why can't we see someone say "Windows works better
>> for me but I can see where Linux might be better for some others"
>> without resorting to being a lying jackass?
>
>> Cause that is simply not true. One needs only one OS...Windows
>> 7...PERIOD!
>
> "One needs"? I am one I and I do not need Windows 7.

If you actually had a legal RTM copy of Windows 7 it would be the only
OS your family ever needed.
>
>> Don't believe me? Theoretically take a Mother, Father and say 8 yr
>> old child (typical family) into a big box store that offers computers
>> with either Windows, linux (any of the 500+ distros) or Apple
>> installed. Its the consumers choice which one they want.
>> Which one, and only which one will fulfill ALL of the computing needs
>> of this family?
>
> If we're talking my family we could probably live with all three
> alternatives.

Windows 7 will do everything including all that the others can't do.

I have chosen Linux for us, and since the others do not
> really care as long as they can do their stuff, Linux it is. There's
> been some growling from the kids when the occasional game has needed
> some extra attention to get it to work.

Thanks for proving my point.
>
>> Well...?
>
> All well!
>
>> NO FUCKING LYING ALLOWED!!!
>
> Ok,
>
>> Oops!
>
>
 
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ceed

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:51:58 -0600, Frank <fb@vsta.msg> wrote:

> Cause that is simply not true. One needs only one OS...Windows
> 7...PERIOD!

> "One needs"? I am one I and I do not need Windows 7.
> If you actually had a legal RTM copy of Windows 7 it would be the only
> OS your family ever needed.

I have one. My employer keeps throwing them at me. They bounce off and end
up in a drawer. I do have XP in a virtual machine now though. Does that
count?

> Don't believe me? Theoretically take a Mother, Father and say 8 yr old
> child (typical family) into a big box store that offers computers with
> either Windows, linux (any of the 500+ distros) or Apple installed. Its
> the consumers choice which one they want.
> Which one, and only which one will fulfill ALL of the computing needs of
> this family?
> If we're talking my family we could probably live with all three
> alternatives. Windows 7 will do everything including all that the
> others can't do.
> I have chosen Linux for us, and since the others do not
> really care as long as they can do their stuff, Linux it is. There's
> been some growling from the kids when the occasional game has needed
> some extra attention to get it to work.

> Thanks for proving my point.

Didn't realize I did, but I'm glad we're both happy with the outcome! :)

> Well...?
> All well!
> NO FUCKING LYING ALLOWED!!!
> Ok,
> Oops!


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Snit

Flightless Bird
Frank stated in post 4b4a21d6$1@news.x-privat.org on 1/10/10 11:51 AM:

> ceed wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:10:18 -0600, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there just some rule that Windows supporters have to be liars and
>>> mental midgets? Why can't we see someone say "Windows works better
>>> for me but I can see where Linux might be better for some others"
>>> without resorting to being a lying jackass?
>>
>>> Cause that is simply not true. One needs only one OS...Windows
>>> 7...PERIOD!
>>
>> "One needs"? I am one I and I do not need Windows 7.
>
> If you actually had a legal RTM copy of Windows 7 it would be the only
> OS your family ever needed.

I have it and run it in virtualization. It does not serve me as well as
other options.
>>
>>> Don't believe me? Theoretically take a Mother, Father and say 8 yr
>>> old child (typical family) into a big box store that offers computers
>>> with either Windows, linux (any of the 500+ distros) or Apple
>>> installed. Its the consumers choice which one they want.
>>> Which one, and only which one will fulfill ALL of the computing needs
>>> of this family?
>>
>> If we're talking my family we could probably live with all three
>> alternatives.
>
> Windows 7 will do everything including all that the others can't do.

Find programs similar to Tofu and DreamCatcher. Find a suite similar to
iLife. Find a suite similar to iWork. Show me where the media browser is.

No... Win 7 is not the be-all and end-all of OSs.
....


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