Ubuntu Rulez! Windows 7 Drools.

[Snit]

Frank stated in post 4b4ac6f0@news.x-privat.org on 1/10/10 116 PM:

....
>>> Uhhh...no it isn't and no it doesn't. It gives you one place to ACCESS
>>> all of your media file and folders.
>>> Big difference. You don't use Windows 7 and now I'm absolutely sure of it.
>>> Oops!
>>
>> It puts all your media in one place *in the UI*. Feel free to try to show
>> otherwise.
>
> Wrong!

Ah, so you do not even know that the Windows 7 Media Center puts all (or at
least most) of your media in one place in the UI. OK, you have no idea what
the Media Center is. Lovely... you are more lost than I thought.

> It puts *ACCESS* to all of your media files in one place.

I would love to hear your thoughts on the difference between this and what I
said. Of course, to explain that you would need a clue, and you clearly
have none. I say that not to be offensive but just so you know how clear
your cluelessness is. Really.

> But so does Windows Explorer. And so does all graphics apps. I hate to inform
> you, but that is no BIG DEAL!

You really have no idea what the Windows Media Center is. Amazing. It is
roughly like Apple's FrontRow app... which is, of course, not at all what
Apple's Media Browser is.

And, of course, Windows 7 has nothing like the Media Browswer on OS X.
Nothing even close.

Have fun babbling about how I am wrong and how I never use Windows 7 and all
the other BS you spew... it is fun to watch you do so in hopes it is not
noticed that you are unable to make a point.



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[Frank]

Snit wrote:
> Frank stated in post 4b4ac4f3$1@news.x-privat.org on 1/10/10 11:27 PM:
>
> ...
>>> Ah, so you were just trying to change the topic from the fact that as far as
>>> you and I both know, there is *nothing* for Windows 7 like Tofu. OK.
>> Oh really? I never said nor implied that. I don't need an app like tofu
>> so I don't really care.
>> Although I seem to remember an app for Windows, years ago that did do that.
>
> You cannot find an app like it *and* you keep going back and forth as to if
> you think Windows is the best choice for you (which is fine by me) or if you
> mean to support your initial absurd claim about Windows being able to do
> everything other OSs can do.
>
> In short: you have no point and no evidence to support your lack of point.
>
>
uhhh...sorry but I did find an app that columinizes text.

>>>> and the fact it allows resizing of text is not what makes it
>>>>> different from what you are talking about. Gee, it also lets you use
>>>>> different fonts and colors... are you going to babble about that next?
>>>> Are you not getting the point...it's about columnizing text for readability.
>>>> Columns, font size, colors...whatever you think makes it easier for you
>>>> to read.
>>>> Got it?
>>> So what "colomnizes" the text for Windows?
>> Get real! It's just a damn script, not a lost sea scroll!
>>
>> http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/58932
>
> Not all text is on websites. Now you know!

The example you gave was from a web site.
>
> ...
>>> Man, I am so shocked to see you show *no* sign of understanding what
>>> Automator is.
>>>
>>> Wait.
>>>
>>> I predicted you would not. See above.
>> So you posted the wrong vid about the fat guy and the script he wrote
>> for Safari that leo la porte "pretended' to be so impressed with?
>
> Nope.

So my assessment was correct!

>
>> If so then please post the correct vid and I'll gladly take a look at it.
>> Otherwise, certainly anyone can access all media files from anywhere in
>> Windows 7.
>
> Who said they could not? Did anyone even hint that people could not find
> such files?
>
> Remember: I noted there was nothing on Windows like the Media Browser of OS
> X...and you have yet to show otherwise. Nor will you, being that I am
> right.

Oh ok. Granted there is no application for Windows named "Media Browser"
by to say there is nothing that will do the same thing is simply not true.
Live with it.
>
>> But I guess you don't know that seeing as how its very obvious to
>> everyone that you don't even use Windows 7.
>> Oops!
>
> Gee, I can play the same game - you do not use Win 7! Nope. Never even
> seen it, have you? Come on, can't you do better than that... you know,
> actually try to make a point, stick to it, and support it.
>
> My guess: you will not. You cannot... you do not have the skills.

I can do all of what you do with your mac with Windows 7.
You on the other hand can not do all that I can do in Windows 7 on your mac.
That's a fact jack.
Sorry !
You'll just have to lives with it.

 

[Snit]

Frank stated in post 4b4ac90e$1@news.x-privat.org on 1/10/10 11:45 PM:

....
> Lets get this straight once and for all.

You are too lost to understand, but sure... I will explain it to you again
in hopes of setting you straight.

You made an absurd claim about Windows 7. When it was noted how absurd it
was and examples were given to prove it was absurd, you changed your claim
to say it was just about your preference for Windows 7 and then showed you
had *no* idea what was being referenced in terms of Apple's Media Browser
and Automator and the OS X program Tofu.

There, did that catch you up? Clearly you were lost before that.

> Some of you wing-nuts say you
> need different OS's for different things. I said *BULLSHIT*! You can do
> everything in Windows 7 that you can on any other OS plus you can do the
> games.

Your claim was not that one could do things on Windows 7... your claim was:

-----
Windows 7 will do everything including all that the others can't do.
-----

And that claim was shot down. Hard. With simple off-the-cuff examples:
Tofu, Media Browser, Automator, etc.

Now your are making the claim you can do anything with Windows 7... which is
a softer claim than saying Windows 7 will do everything other OSs will.

> You think thats no big deal?

You and your ever changing claims and your utter lack of support are no big
deal... not like such ignorance has not been seen in these parts before.

> You think games are just a little small insignificant part of the
> computer world?

Where did you get that?

> Think again pal!

At least you realize I have had thoughts in the past... and hence you know I
am a step ahead of you.

> Games make more money than movies do.

I am sure if you keep asking around you can find someone who cares. Really.
But that person is not me.

> Oops!
> And the fact that you can't play most games on any linux distro
> (actually all linux distros are basically the same, just different
> lipstick) or apple computers is gigantic.

What game do you think I cannot play on an Apple computer? Just curious.
Not that I am saying there are none... but I bet you cannot think of any off
hand. Not because I think it is hard but because I think you are
incompetent about everything. Feel free to try to prove me wrong.

> It is the elephant in the room.
> So even if all of the big box stores offered Windows, linux (any distro)
> or macs all pre-installed and all at the same price...guess which one
> would still own the desktop market?

I am trying hard to care. Really. While market share is important to some
extent, it hardly concerns me as long as my OS of choice is well supported
and unlikely to go belly up.

> Windows would.
> Big oops!

Ah, not you are into the my-OSs-market-share is big part of your game.
Maybe you will get back to actually focusing on your earlier claims and
even, gasp!, trying in useless hope to support them.

But you will not. Yeah, even you know now you made claims in hopes that you
would not be called on your BS and your ignorance. But you were. So now
you are just puffing up your chest and trying to sound like you are not
humiliated.

Just thought you should know how easy it is to see through you.


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[Frank]

Snit wrote:
> Frank stated in post 4b4ac6f0@news.x-privat.org on 1/10/10 116 PM:
>
> ...
>>>> Uhhh...no it isn't and no it doesn't. It gives you one place to ACCESS
>>>> all of your media file and folders.
>>>> Big difference. You don't use Windows 7 and now I'm absolutely sure of it.
>>>> Oops!
>>> It puts all your media in one place *in the UI*. Feel free to try to show
>>> otherwise.
>> Wrong!
>
> Ah, so you do not even know that the Windows 7 Media Center puts all (or at
> least most) of your media in one place in the UI.

No! That is not really correct. it puts "access" to all of your media
files...all that you want access to. It is totally customizable.

OK, you have no idea what
> the Media Center is. Lovely... you are more lost than I thought.

Damn! I'm dealing with real nut case now!
>
>> It puts *ACCESS* to all of your media files in one place.
>
> I would love to hear your thoughts on the difference between this and what I
> said.

"Windows 7 Media Center puts all (or at
least most) of your media in one place in the UI."

Your missing key word is "access".

Of course, to explain that you would need a clue, and you clearly
> have none. I say that not to be offensive but just so you know how clear
> your cluelessness is. Really.

hehehe...hey...you're getting your panties all in a bunch. I clearly
know what I'm talking about because I'm correcting you about Windows 7.
You are the one who is factually wrong sport.
Not me!...LOL!
>
>> But so does Windows Explorer. And so does all graphics apps. I hate to inform
>> you, but that is no BIG DEAL!
>
> You really have no idea what the Windows Media Center is. Amazing. It is
> roughly like Apple's FrontRow app... which is, of course, not at all what
> Apple's Media Browser is.
>
I use it everyday on 4 different computers. I know exactly what media
center is.

> And, of course, Windows 7 has nothing like the Media Browswer on OS X.
> Nothing even close.

Nothing by that name of course, but I'm sure in functionality, Windows
can easily do the same.
In fact I know it can as I can access all of my media files from
practically all of my apps.
Especially Media Center.
oops!
>
> Have fun babbling about how I am wrong and how I never use Windows 7 and all
> the other BS you spew... it is fun to watch you do so in hopes it is not
> noticed that you are unable to make a point.
>
My advice is for you to stick with macs and leave Windows to us real users.
Otherwise you might end up making a fool out of yourself in here.
Oops!

 

[Snit]

Frank stated in post 4b4acb8b$1@news.x-privat.org on 1/10/10 11:56 PM:

....
>> You cannot find an app like it *and* you keep going back and forth as to if
>> you think Windows is the best choice for you (which is fine by me) or if you
>> mean to support your initial absurd claim about Windows being able to do
>> everything other OSs can do.
>>
>> In short: you have no point and no evidence to support your lack of point.
>>
>>
> uhhh...sorry but I did find an app that columinizes text.

I accept your apology. Now maybe you can try to find an app like Tofu but
for Windows.

....
>> Not all text is on websites. Now you know!
>
> The example you gave was from a web site.

Lovely. So?

....
>>> If so then please post the correct vid and I'll gladly take a look at it.
>>> Otherwise, certainly anyone can access all media files from anywhere in
>>> Windows 7.
>>
>> Who said they could not? Did anyone even hint that people could not find
>> such files?
>>
>> Remember: I noted there was nothing on Windows like the Media Browser of OS
>> X...and you have yet to show otherwise. Nor will you, being that I am
>> right.
>
> Oh ok. Granted there is no application for Windows named "Media Browser"
> by to say there is nothing that will do the same thing is simply not true.
> Live with it.

Ah, you are just too incompetent to find anything like the OS X Media
Browser but you are convinced it exists. OK.

>>> But I guess you don't know that seeing as how its very obvious to
>>> everyone that you don't even use Windows 7.
>>> Oops!
>>
>> Gee, I can play the same game - you do not use Win 7! Nope. Never even
>> seen it, have you? Come on, can't you do better than that... you know,
>> actually try to make a point, stick to it, and support it.
>>
>> My guess: you will not. You cannot... you do not have the skills.
>
> I can do all of what you do with your mac with Windows 7.

I can make a point, stick to it, and support it.

You cannot.

Granted, that has nothing to do with your OS, but it does show where you are
wrong.

> You on the other hand can not do all that I can do in Windows 7 on your mac.

Such as?

> That's a fact jack.
> Sorry !
> You'll just have to lives with it.

We both have to live with you being unable to support your claims. No big
deal to me.



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[Snit]

Frank stated in post 4b4ace37@news.x-privat.org on 1/11/10 12:07 AM:

> Snit wrote:
>> Frank stated in post 4b4ac6f0@news.x-privat.org on 1/10/10 116 PM:
>>
>> ...
>>>>> Uhhh...no it isn't and no it doesn't. It gives you one place to ACCESS
>>>>> all of your media file and folders.
>>>>> Big difference. You don't use Windows 7 and now I'm absolutely sure of it.
>>>>> Oops!
>>>> It puts all your media in one place *in the UI*. Feel free to try to show
>>>> otherwise.
>>> Wrong!
>>
>> Ah, so you do not even know that the Windows 7 Media Center puts all (or at
>> least most) of your media in one place in the UI.
>
> No! That is not really correct. it puts "access" to all of your media
> files...all that you want access to. It is totally customizable.

So where do you think I am wrong?

> OK, you have no idea what
>> the Media Center is. Lovely... you are more lost than I thought.
>
> Damn! I'm dealing with real nut case now!

We are both "dealing" with you. Sure.

>>> It puts *ACCESS* to all of your media files in one place.
>>
>> I would love to hear your thoughts on the difference between this and what I
>> said.
>
> "Windows 7 Media Center puts all (or at
> least most) of your media in one place in the UI."
>
> Your missing key word is "access".

Ah, so you are stuck on a word because you cannot understand the concept.
Thanks for explaining.

> Of course, to explain that you would need a clue, and you clearly
>> have none. I say that not to be offensive but just so you know how clear
>> your cluelessness is. Really.
>
> hehehe...hey...you're getting your panties all in a bunch. I clearly
> know what I'm talking about because I'm correcting you about Windows 7.
> You are the one who is factually wrong sport.
> Not me!...LOL!

Gee, such strength from you in your conviction... yet with no evidence.
What a shame.

>>> But so does Windows Explorer. And so does all graphics apps. I hate to
>>> inform
>>> you, but that is no BIG DEAL!
>>
>> You really have no idea what the Windows Media Center is. Amazing. It is
>> roughly like Apple's FrontRow app... which is, of course, not at all what
>> Apple's Media Browser is.
>>
> I use it everyday on 4 different computers. I know exactly what media
> center is.

But you cannot show any sign of it. Amazing.

>> And, of course, Windows 7 has nothing like the Media Browswer on OS X.
>> Nothing even close.
>
> Nothing by that name of course, but I'm sure in functionality, Windows
> can easily do the same.

Yet you cannot show it. Gee, you think you are incompetent.

> In fact I know it can as I can access all of my media files from
> practically all of my apps.
> Especially Media Center.
> oops!

Ah, do try to support your claim. Hey, maybe you can explain how the Media
Center helps you to get attachments from within your email program or how it
helps you place an image from within your word processor.

LOL!

>> Have fun babbling about how I am wrong and how I never use Windows 7 and all
>> the other BS you spew... it is fun to watch you do so in hopes it is not
>> noticed that you are unable to make a point.
>>
> My advice is for you to stick with macs and leave Windows to us real users.
> Otherwise you might end up making a fool out of yourself in here.
> Oops!

Well, speaking to you is a bit foolish.


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[Frank]

Snit wrote:
> Frank stated in post 4b4ac90e$1@news.x-privat.org on 1/10/10 11:45 PM:
>
> ...
>> Lets get this straight once and for all.
>
> You are too lost to understand, but sure... I will explain it to you again
> in hopes of setting you straight.
>
> You made an absurd claim about Windows 7. When it was noted how absurd it
> was and examples were given to prove it was absurd, you changed your claim
> to say it was just about your preference for Windows 7 and then showed you
> had *no* idea what was being referenced in terms of Apple's Media Browser
> and Automator and the OS X program Tofu.

I didn't change any claim. You have a reading comprehension problem.

>
> There, did that catch you up? Clearly you were lost before that.


>
>> Some of you wing-nuts say you
>> need different OS's for different things. I said *BULLSHIT*! You can do
>> everything in Windows 7 that you can on any other OS plus you can do the
>> games.
>
> Your claim was not that one could do things on Windows 7... your claim was:
>
> -----
> Windows 7 will do everything including all that the others can't do.

Which is factually true.
> -----
>
> And that claim was shot down.

No it wasn't.

Hard.

Maybe its hard for you to accept the fact that you didn't shoot anything
down.

With simple off-the-cuff examples:
> Tofu,

I gave you a script and the URL that would do it.
Then you changed your claim to all text. And I'm not sure if that script
won't read all text, not just web text as I have not used it nor do I
have any use for such functionality.

Media Browser,

Nothing special about that.
It can easily be done in Windows 7.

Automator, etc.

The fat guy with the beard wrote script for safari...big deal.
You can do that in Windows 7 too.
>
> Now your are making the claim you can do anything with Windows 7...

uhhh..that was and still is my original claim.

which is
> a softer claim than saying Windows 7 will do everything other OSs will.

Hey bozo...YOU CAN DO ANYTHING IN WINDOWS 7 THAT CAN BE DONE IN ANY
OTHER OS. Maybe not with the same named app of course...but with the
same results.
Got it!
>
>> You think thats no big deal?
>
> You and your ever changing claims...

Hey wing-nut...I haven't changed any claim.

and your utter lack of support are no big
> deal... not like such ignorance has not been seen in these parts before.

You're becoming delusional.
How pathetic.
>
>> You think games are just a little small insignificant part of the
>> computer world?
>
> Where did you get that?

That is a fact.
>
>> Think again pal!
>
> At least you realize I have had thoughts in the past... and hence you know I
> am a step ahead of you.

No, you're tripping over your own feet.
Oops!
>
>> Games make more money than movies do.
>
> I am sure if you keep asking around you can find someone who cares.

hehehe...you just don't get it do you?

Really.
> But that person is not me.

Obviously.
>
>> Oops!
>> And the fact that you can't play most games on any linux distro
>> (actually all linux distros are basically the same, just different
>> lipstick) or apple computers is gigantic.
>
> What game do you think I cannot play on an Apple computer?

Most of them.

Just curious.
> Not that I am saying there are none... but I bet you cannot think of any off
> hand.

Most all of them.

Not because I think it is hard but because I think you are
> incompetent about everything.

Making a fool out of you is rather easy.
Thanks!

Feel free to try to prove me wrong.

hehehe..next time you walk into a big box store browse the games isle
and look at the game boxes and the OS they run on!
Hahaha...wake up bozo...Windows owns the pc game venue and that has a
lot to do with which OS most families want.
it is a very big deal.
>
>> It is the elephant in the room.
>> So even if all of the big box stores offered Windows, linux (any distro)
>> or macs all pre-installed and all at the same price...guess which one
>> would still own the desktop market?
>
> I am trying hard to care. Really.

You are?

While market share is important to some
> extent, it hardly concerns me as long as my OS of choice is well supported
> and unlikely to go belly up.
>
Good for you.
Then why are in this Windows 7 ng?

>> Windows would.
>> Big oops!
>
> Ah, not you are into the my-OSs-market-share is big part of your game.
> Maybe you will get back to actually focusing on your earlier claims and
> even, gasp!, trying in useless hope to support them.

You can do everything in Windows 7 that can be done in all other OS's
and you can play most all of the games in Windows 7 yet they cannot be
played on a linux or macs box.
Got it? I've made that same statement numerous times. Copy and paste it
so you don't forget or claim I said something different, ok!

>
> But you will not. Yeah, even you know now you made claims in hopes that you
> would not be called on your BS and your ignorance.

Damn...you're a real nut job!

But you were. So now
> you are just puffing up your chest and trying to sound like you are not
> humiliated.

hehehe...humiliated? I'm not the one trying to change what I said...that
fool would be you and it won't work cause it's in writing!...LOL!

>
> Just thought you should know how easy it is to see through you.

You're obviously blind in one eye and can't see out the other.
Oops!
Good bye nut joy! I've had my way with you.

 

[Snit]

Frank stated in post 4b4ad507$1@news.x-privat.org on 1/11/10 126 AM:

> Snit wrote:
>> Frank stated in post 4b4ac90e$1@news.x-privat.org on 1/10/10 11:45 PM:
>>
>> ...
>>> Lets get this straight once and for all.
>>
>> You are too lost to understand, but sure... I will explain it to you again
>> in hopes of setting you straight.
>>
>> You made an absurd claim about Windows 7. When it was noted how absurd it
>> was and examples were given to prove it was absurd, you changed your claim
>> to say it was just about your preference for Windows 7 and then showed you
>> had *no* idea what was being referenced in terms of Apple's Media Browser
>> and Automator and the OS X program Tofu.
>
> I didn't change any claim. You have a reading comprehension problem.

Well, other than the fact you started by saying Windows could do all that
other OSs can, then changed that to be it did all you needed, then changed
it again to say anything you can do on other OSs you can do with Windows.

>> There, did that catch you up? Clearly you were lost before that.

The answer is clearly no, you have not caught up. Gee, what a shock.

>> Your claim was not that one could do things on Windows 7... your claim was:
>>
>> -----
>> Windows 7 will do everything including all that the others can't do.
>
> Which is factually true.

And yet you have not been able to utter a single word of support in all this
time. Sad to see you think you are so incompetent.

....
>> Tofu,
>
> I gave you a script and the URL that would do it.

Nope. It would do a subset of the thing Tofu does and only on text in a
browser.

> Then you changed your claim to all text.

My claim has been the same since I mentioned Tofu - Windows has nothing like
it.

And so far nothing has been shown to suggest I am wrong.

> And I'm not sure if that script won't read all text, not just web text as I
> have not used it nor do I have any use for such functionality.

Read your own link.

> Media Browser,
>
> Nothing special about that.
> It can easily be done in Windows 7.

Yet you cannot find a program to do so. Hey, maybe this will help you to
understand:


Note that the browser is *not* looking at folders, it is looking at photo
albums, music play lists, etc. Now, since you can do everything I can and
you can do it on Windows, go ahead and show me the similar video of you
doing much the same on Windows - accessing such things from within other
programs. Remember, I showed just a few, but the browser is available to
many, many programs. Heck, it is even a part of the Open dialog for
programs which have not added it.

> Automator, etc.
>
> The fat guy with the beard wrote script for safari...big deal.
> You can do that in Windows 7 too.

So show me how... what program allows for the type scripting you can do with
Automator. Make an even bigger fool of yourself and name a package.

>> Now your are making the claim you can do anything with Windows 7...
>
> uhhh..that was and still is my original claim.

Nope. Your original claim is quoted above.

> which is
>> a softer claim than saying Windows 7 will do everything other OSs will.
>
> Hey bozo...YOU CAN DO ANYTHING IN WINDOWS 7 THAT CAN BE DONE IN ANY
> OTHER OS.

Well then, making a video like the one I made you above should be easy.
Good luck! Oh, by the way, I replaced the cursor in post-production... for
the screencasting that I do that is important. By all means name the
Windows program that does that.

> Maybe not with the same named app of course...but with the
> same results.
> Got it!

I get that you make all sorts of ever-changing claims you cannot back up.

....
>> What game do you think I cannot play on an Apple computer?
>
> Most of them.
>
> Just curious.
>> Not that I am saying there are none... but I bet you cannot think of any off
>> hand.
>
> Most all of them.

But you cannot think of a single one. Amazing!
>
> Not because I think it is hard but because I think you are
>> incompetent about everything.
>
> Making a fool out of you is rather easy.
> Thanks!
>
> Feel free to try to prove me wrong.
>
> hehehe..next time you walk into a big box store browse the games isle
> and look at the game boxes and the OS they run on!
> Hahaha...wake up bozo...Windows owns the pc game venue and that has a
> lot to do with which OS most families want.
> it is a very big deal.

Note: you did not name a single one. Oh, and you changed your claim again.
Yeah, I know you do not see how... but you did.

>>> It is the elephant in the room.
>>> So even if all of the big box stores offered Windows, linux (any distro)
>>> or macs all pre-installed and all at the same price...guess which one
>>> would still own the desktop market?
>>
>> I am trying hard to care. Really.
>
> You are?

OK, you got me... not really.

....
>> Ah, not you are into the my-OSs-market-share is big part of your game.
>> Maybe you will get back to actually focusing on your earlier claims and
>> even, gasp!, trying in useless hope to support them.
>
> You can do everything in Windows 7 that can be done in all other OS's
> and you can play most all of the games in Windows 7 yet they cannot be
> played on a linux or macs box.
> Got it? I've made that same statement numerous times. Copy and paste it
> so you don't forget or claim I said something different, ok!

See how you prove me right about your ever-changing but never supported
claims. Amazing.

>> But you will not. Yeah, even you know now you made claims in hopes that you
>> would not be called on your BS and your ignorance.
>
> Damn...you're a real nut job!

It has already been noted that I am responding to your nonsense.



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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:026 -0600, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
wrote:

>>> You really are lost.
>>
>> Can't can you?
>> Figures!
>>
> Well, as predicted by someone else, when you talked about being able to
> do
> all you need to do on Win 7, you meant games. You have no idea what can
> or
> cannot be done on other OSs.


Well, that is what it mostly comes down to in discussions like this one,
At some point the Windows users is going to ask: "But you can't play
<some-huge-ass-mmorpg-monster-role-playing-game>. For a lot of people
gaming is what the computer is for. For them Windows is an obvious choice.
A choice they do not make since Windows is mostly what you get when you go
out looking for a gaming rig.

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[Snit]

ceed stated in post op.u6c9w1lr325jvr@christian-laptop on 1/11/10 4:52 AM:

> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:026 -0600, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>> You really are lost.
>>>
>>> Can't can you?
>>> Figures!
>>>
>> Well, as predicted by someone else, when you talked about being able to do
>> all you need to do on Win 7, you meant games. You have no idea what can or
>> cannot be done on other OSs.
>
> Well, that is what it mostly comes down to in discussions like this one, At
> some point the Windows users is going to ask: "But you can't play
> <some-huge-ass-mmorpg-monster-role-playing-game>. For a lot of people gaming
> is what the computer is for. For them Windows is an obvious choice. A choice
> they do not make since Windows is mostly what you get when you go out looking
> for a gaming rig.

No doubt - Windows is a better gaming platform than OS X or Linux. But
Frank could not even name a single game to make his point.


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[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Actually no "needs" anything except a spear, a cave and a good women.
>>> Unless of course, you are a homosexual.
>>
>> Some people would consider food, water and a warm place to shit as
>> needs. Judging from your "style", you probably shit in the woods and
>> eat it and wash it down with piss and vinegar followed by "Oops...LOL!"
>>
>
> Its rather evident that you need to have babba, your male sheep lover,
> butt-fuck you...again...as you're still full of shit.
> Oops!

There you go again, with your usual straw man and ad hominem and no
reply to content. Yawn.

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[JEDIDIAH]

On 2010-01-11, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>
>
> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2010-01-11, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>>>
>>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>> On 2010-01-10, Frank <fb@vsta.msg> wrote:
>>>>> ceed wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:10:18 -0600, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>>>> [deletia]
>>>>>>> Which one, and only which one will fulfill ALL of the computing needs
>>>>>>> of this family?
>>>>>> If we're talking my family we could probably live with all three
>>>>>> alternatives.
>>>>> Windows 7 will do everything including all that the others can't do.
>>>> What? Be maintenance free?
>>>>
>>>> Not bloodly likely.
>>>>
>>>> [deletia]
>>>>
>>>> A consumer computer needs to be something that the consumer can
>>>> treat like a toaster (at least from the sysadmin point of view) once
>>>> everything is set up.
>>>>
>>>> Anal updates?
>>> Did you pull that one of your anus?
>>
>> How persistent do you have to be with your system updates to avoid
>> the "blame the user" approach to your problems when you start to have
>> them with Windows?
>
> How far behind the times are you?

Not at all actually.

Although I am sure that you are going to try and claim that this years
version of Windows finally manages to get it right and will deliver on all
of the old broken promises as well as some new ones.

[deletia]
>> I don't run apps that unecessarily blur the boundary between data and
>> programs and I don't run any unecessary outward facing network services.
>
> I'm not asking about your personal computing experience or habits...as
> you know...so stop the changing the focus.

This isn't about "my habits". This is about Microsoft's habits.

[deletia]

They go above and beyond the call of duty in their quest to create new
and even more heinous forms of malware.

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the idea will move the industry forward, they ask, |||
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-- Bill Gates

 

[JEDIDIAH]

On 2010-01-11, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>
>
> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2010-01-11, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>>>
>>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>> On 2010-01-10, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>> Nothingspecial wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>>>>> Real world consumers do reject Linux by the millions. Maybe you
>>>>>>>> should follow the advice.
>>>>>>> Most never get the chance to try Linux because their computers come
>>>>>>> pre-loaded with Windows.
>>>>>> Is there just some rule that Windows supporters have to be liars and
>>>>>> mental midgets?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why can't we see someone say "Windows works better for me but I can see
>>>>>> where Linux might be better for some others" without resorting to being a
>>>>>> lying jackass?
>>>>> Cause that is simply not true. One needs only one OS...Windows 7...PERIOD!
>>>> No one "needs" Windows.
>>> Actually no "needs" anything except a spear, a cave and a good women.
>>> Unless of course, you are a homosexual.
>>
>> Mindless sophistry. We're talking about computers here.
>
> Then stop generalizing.

This is a computer conversation.

[deletia]

Don't be a moron.

--
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the idea will move the industry forward, they ask, |||
'how will it help us sell more copies of Windows?'" / | \

-- Bill Gates

 

[JEDIDIAH]

On 2010-01-11, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>
>
> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2010-01-11, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>>>
>>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>> On 2010-01-10, Frank <fb@vsta.msg> wrote:
>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>> Frank stated in post 4b4a21d6$1@news.x-privat.org on 1/10/10 11:51 AM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ceed wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:10:18 -0600, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>>>> [deletia]
>>>>
>>>>>> Find programs similar to Tofu and DreamCatcher. Find a suite similar to
>>>>>> iLife. Find a suite similar to iWork. Show me where the media browser is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No... Win 7 is not the be-all and end-all of OSs.
>>>>> So you're a mac'er huh?
>>>>> Figures!
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh and the Media Center in Windows 7 is excellent!
>>>> ...and the one in XP or Vista isn't?
>>> I've got all of those so I do speak from an actual users experience.
>>> Windows 7 Media Center is the best of all of them.
>>>> Sounds like a recent Apple commercial...
>>> Sounds like you've not used any of them. Especially Windows 7.
>>
>> You mean a non-Lemming that hasn't rushed out to buy into the most
>> recent iteration of BS and broken promises? No.
>>
>> Although I do have XP MCE, Front Row and Plex. I could even get the
>> current version of Sage if I really wanted to and I wouldn't have to buy
>> an entirely new OS to do it either.
>>
> Thanks for proving my point.
> Now why are you cross posting when you don't even have the OS you're
> bashing?

...cause it costs real money and you've done nothing yet to indicate
that I should waste any of it on the latest version of Microsoft's broken
promises?

> Are you that mentally screwed up over computer software?

When it tends to actively interfere with my ability to use the stuff
I want, sure. That's the problem with "mere computer software". It's all
about preventing the other guy from exercising his freedom to choose what
he wants.

Now as a genuine HTPC user (rather than just a wannabe) I would take
the rather common position that "its a production system" and you better
not mess with it unless you have a VERY good reason.

Got a good reason?

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the idea will move the industry forward, they ask, |||
'how will it help us sell more copies of Windows?'" / | \

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[JEDIDIAH]

On 2010-01-11, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>
>
> Snit wrote:
>> JEDIDIAH stated in post slrnhkl3c5.9r0.jedi@nomad.mishnet on 1/10/10 71
>> PM:
>>
>>>>> Nothing to do with the topic of the OS X media browser. Just thought you
>>>>> should know.
>>>> Have you ever even opened Windows 7...or its Media Center?
>>>> If so, what exactly do you see?
>>>> Clue...all of your media (movies, pics, audio, tv etc)., at your fingertips.
>>> ...which begs the question: Why does this sort of bog standard sort of
>>> thing for media server software require the very latest version of Windows
>>> to get at? Why aren't the earlier versions of XP like this? Really, unless
>>> Microsoft was just dropping the ball before the only thing that Win7 should
>>> add is some additional driver support for things that didn't exist when the
>>> previous releases didn't exist.
>>
>> The real question is why he is focusing on a media center and ignoring the
>> topic of an OS-wide media browser.

What's the difference exactly?

[deletia]

--
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the idea will move the industry forward, they ask, |||
'how will it help us sell more copies of Windows?'" / | \

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[JEDIDIAH]

On 2010-01-11, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>
>
> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2010-01-11, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>>>
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>> Frank stated in post 4b4a7e8e@news.x-privat.org on 1/10/10 6:27 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>>> On 2010-01-10, Frank <fb@vsta.msg> wrote:
>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> Frank stated in post 4b4a21d6$1@news.x-privat.org on 1/10/10 11:51 AM:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ceed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:10:18 -0600, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>>>>>> [deletia]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Find programs similar to Tofu and DreamCatcher. Find a suite similar to
>>>>>>>> iLife. Find a suite similar to iWork. Show me where the media browser is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No... Win 7 is not the be-all and end-all of OSs.
>>>>>>> So you're a mac'er huh?
>>>>>>> Figures!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh and the Media Center in Windows 7 is excellent!
>>>>>> ...and the one in XP or Vista isn't?
>>>>> I've got all of those so I do speak from an actual users experience.
>>>>> Windows 7 Media Center is the best of all of them.
>>>>>
>>>> Nothing to do with the topic of the OS X media browser. Just thought you
>>>> should know.
>>> Have you ever even opened Windows 7...or its Media Center?
>>> If so, what exactly do you see?
>>> Clue...all of your media (movies, pics, audio, tv etc)., at your fingertips.
>>
>> ...which begs the question: Why does this sort of bog standard sort of
>> thing for media server software require the very latest version of Windows
>> to get at? Why aren't the earlier versions of XP like this? Really, unless
>> Microsoft was just dropping the ball before the only thing that Win7 should
>> add is some additional driver support for things that didn't exist when the
>> previous releases didn't exist.
>>
>> [deletia]
>>
> What type of commercial enterprise/business have you been in or
> associated with?

Most businesses can't rest on their laurels based on a monopoly that
dates back to MS-DOS. They actually have to work to present something to
the consumer that isn't total drek.

Now why wasn't MCE a complete product to begin with?

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the idea will move the industry forward, they ask, |||
'how will it help us sell more copies of Windows?'" / | \

-- Bill Gates

 

[Snit]

JEDIDIAH stated in post slrnhkmdgp.2l3.jedi@nomad.mishnet on 1/11/10 70
AM:

> On 2010-01-11, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Snit wrote:
>>> JEDIDIAH stated in post slrnhkl3c5.9r0.jedi@nomad.mishnet on 1/10/10 71
>>> PM:
>>>
>>>>>> Nothing to do with the topic of the OS X media browser. Just thought you
>>>>>> should know.
>>>>> Have you ever even opened Windows 7...or its Media Center?
>>>>> If so, what exactly do you see?
>>>>> Clue...all of your media (movies, pics, audio, tv etc)., at your
>>>>> fingertips.
>>>> ...which begs the question: Why does this sort of bog standard sort of
>>>> thing for media server software require the very latest version of Windows
>>>> to get at? Why aren't the earlier versions of XP like this? Really, unless
>>>> Microsoft was just dropping the ball before the only thing that Win7 should
>>>> add is some additional driver support for things that didn't exist when the
>>>> previous releases didn't exist.
>>>
>>> The real question is why he is focusing on a media center and ignoring the
>>> topic of an OS-wide media browser.
>
> What's the difference exactly?

The Windows Media Center is a "10-foot" UI designed to allow a user to
access all (any?) media they want in one place... in general principle like
Apple's Front Row (though different in implementation).

Apple's Media Browser is, in some ways, the opposite of that. Instead of
having one place where all the media is available, it makes all of the media
available everywhere - from essentially any relevant program. It allows
users, even if they do not know how to use files and folders, to add their
images to an email or a Pages document... or to use a music playlist in
their DVD creation program. It makes the media organization tools far more
useful - the groupings created there are not just internal to the program,
they are available system wide. And for the person who does not know how to
use files and folders, not only does it allow them to still use their images
and music and videos, it is a stepping stone to understanding. Here is a
quick video I made of it: <http/tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/browser.mov>





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