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Ubuntu 10.04 to Include Beginner's Manual

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KristleBawl

Flightless Bird
Muad'Dib expressed an opinion:
> Lee Waun wrote:
>> Take your ubunta and shove it. This is a windows group bitch.
>>
> Pretty harsh dude, but then what the OP posted begged or at least
> attracted adverse responses I suppose. LOL ..But really, does one
> need to get so riled? After all, this IS Usenet... New to it? LOL
> Ever experienced the good ol' days of BBS, 300 baud and those
> flame-wars? (The beginning) <BIG LOL> "Nothing to see here, move
> along." (Nothing NEW to see here that is! Hahaha!)
>
> G'day

In two words; Thank You! ;-)

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K

KristleBawl

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Muad'Dib expressed an opinion:
> Not true, I have many clients happily using Linux of one flavor or
> another, who, (respectfully), are basically clueless users. Once set up,
> there isn't really much to using it. Pretty much the same as Winders in
> some ways. Clueless people are just that, "CLUELESS" it doesn't really
> matter WHAT OS is involved I have found. Clueless is clueless,
> regardless. It is the TEACHING, that matters. Once I have taught users
> on THEIR CHOICE of OS, they move right along. It makes NO difference
> which OS they choose. This bit of one OS being better than the other is
> hogwash. It is ALL about the needs, wants, education, and not solely the
> OS "PERIOD."

Sure, in a hands-on teaching situation, with time and patience, it can
work. I can't be there to show them, I have to talk them through it.

>> If this were a *real* Window 7 newsgroup, I would have made a better
>> subject line in my first post, instead of pasting the article title.
>
> This IS a "real" Win7 news group. What a crack-up..
>
> Whatever, you posted pro Ubuntu in an MS orientated group basically, and
> are now backpedaling. ..Unnecessarily I might add. BOTH OS's have good
> points and bad points. I happily use them both for different reasons, no
> need to take sides.
>
> Oh, and "A reason to try Ubuntu for myself one day."(?) That is just too
> funny. Apparently you have some expertise, yet you haven't downloaded a
> LIVE ISO of some Linux flavor or another and ACTUALLY checked it out?
> ..Yet you have an opinion that, "Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast
> majority of Windows home users. Period."(?) How can you possibly state
> that, having not tried it? Gimme a break!
>
> I tested Win7 from beta through RC, and like it a lot, in fact MUCH
> better than the EXPENSIVE Vista Ultimate I purchased. (Which recently
> crashed with the dreaded BLACK Screen of Death - KSOD) However, I really
> like the Linux I have as well, so I use them BOTH for my purposes, and
> it works out very well.
>
> G'day
>
No, I haven't. I've only touched one demo machine at the local store. I
have no idea which version or flavor it was, only that I couldn't guess
what the program names meant in the list of choices. I didn't like the
idea of having to either download them or go online and research it to
find out whether or not I was even interested in the programs.

No backpedaling involved, I simply erred by making my sarcasm too
subtle. I either overestimated the reading ability of this group or
underestimated the blinders to any topic that is controversial.

Please explain how my intention to *not* use Ubuntu, as clearly stated
in my original post, equates to advocacy. This should be good. ;-)

Like Microsoft, I prefer to cater to the lowest common denominator, so
instead of taking the time to either talk a relative through the process
of downloading an *.ISO and what to do with it, or doing it myself and
mailing them out, I allow them the comfort and familiarity of the OS
they already have, because some people really fear change.

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Frank

Flightless Bird
Muad'Dib wrote:
> KristleBawl wrote:
>> Rockinghorse Winner expressed an opinion:
>>> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ"<billy@yanaire.org> writes:
>>>> Anyway, most here don't give a RATS ASS about that INFERIOR Ubuntu.
>>>> If you
>>>> want to use it go ahead but we don't need or want to hear about it.
>>>
>>>> Maybe I should report when I take a shit.
>>>
>>> Just a Linux lurker on this group, and what the origninal poster did was
>>> just stupid, trolling and inexcusable. If I were you I'd killfile him,
>>> ignore him and continue to do what you've been doing: discuss Windows7.
>>>
>>> It's folks like that that give Linux a black eye.
>>>
>>> Carry on...
>>
>> I guess you guys don't really read what you comment on. =D
>>
>> I'm a happy Vista user and I do not use *nix, at all! As far as I'm
>> concerned,---> Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast majority of
>> Windows home users. Period.<---
>
> Not true, I have many clients happily using Linux of one flavor or
> another, who, (respectfully), are basically clueless users. Once set up,
> there isn't really much to using it. Pretty much the same as Winders in
> some ways. Clueless people are just that, "CLUELESS" it doesn't really
> matter WHAT OS is involved I have found. Clueless is clueless,
> regardless. It is the TEACHING, that matters. Once I have taught users
> on THEIR CHOICE of OS, they move right along. It makes NO difference
> which OS they choose. This bit of one OS being better than the other is
> hogwash. It is ALL about the needs, wants, education, and not solely the
> OS "PERIOD."
>
>> If this were a *real* Window 7 newsgroup, I would have made a better
>> subject line in my first post, instead of pasting the article title.
>
> This IS a "real" Win7 news group. What a crack-up..
>
> Whatever, you posted pro Ubuntu in an MS orientated group basically, and
> are now backpedaling. ..Unnecessarily I might add. BOTH OS's have good
> points and bad points. I happily use them both for different reasons, no
> need to take sides.
>
> Oh, and "A reason to try Ubuntu for myself one day."(?) That is just too
> funny. Apparently you have some expertise, yet you haven't downloaded a
> LIVE ISO of some Linux flavor or another and ACTUALLY checked it out?
> ..Yet you have an opinion that, "Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast
> majority of Windows home users. Period."(?) How can you possibly state
> that, having not tried it? Gimme a break!
>
> I tested Win7 from beta through RC, and like it a lot, in fact MUCH
> better than the EXPENSIVE Vista Ultimate I purchased. (Which recently
> crashed with the dreaded BLACK Screen of Death - KSOD) However, I really
> like the Linux I have as well, so I use them BOTH for my purposes, and
> it works out very well.
>
> G'day
>
Lets cut the crap. Tell us what you can do with linux than can't be done
with Windows...oh and please spare us the "safer web surfing bullshit" ok?
Well...?
 
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Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Muad'Dib wrote:
>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>> Rockinghorse Winner expressed an opinion:
>>>> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ"<billy@yanaire.org> writes:
>>>>> Anyway, most here don't give a RATS ASS about that INFERIOR
>>>>> Ubuntu. If you
>>>>> want to use it go ahead but we don't need or want to hear about it.
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I should report when I take a shit.
>>>>
>>>> Just a Linux lurker on this group, and what the origninal poster did
>>>> was
>>>> just stupid, trolling and inexcusable. If I were you I'd killfile him,
>>>> ignore him and continue to do what you've been doing: discuss Windows7.
>>>>
>>>> It's folks like that that give Linux a black eye.
>>>>
>>>> Carry on...
>>>
>>> I guess you guys don't really read what you comment on. =D
>>>
>>> I'm a happy Vista user and I do not use *nix, at all! As far as I'm
>>> concerned,---> Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast majority of
>>> Windows home users. Period.<---
>>
>> Not true, I have many clients happily using Linux of one flavor or
>> another, who, (respectfully), are basically clueless users. Once set
>> up, there isn't really much to using it. Pretty much the same as
>> Winders in some ways. Clueless people are just that, "CLUELESS" it
>> doesn't really matter WHAT OS is involved I have found. Clueless is
>> clueless, regardless. It is the TEACHING, that matters. Once I have
>> taught users on THEIR CHOICE of OS, they move right along. It makes NO
>> difference which OS they choose. This bit of one OS being better than
>> the other is hogwash. It is ALL about the needs, wants, education, and
>> not solely the OS "PERIOD."
>>
>>> If this were a *real* Window 7 newsgroup, I would have made a better
>>> subject line in my first post, instead of pasting the article title.
>>
>> This IS a "real" Win7 news group. What a crack-up..
>>
>> Whatever, you posted pro Ubuntu in an MS orientated group basically,
>> and are now backpedaling. ..Unnecessarily I might add. BOTH OS's have
>> good points and bad points. I happily use them both for different
>> reasons, no need to take sides.
>>
>> Oh, and "A reason to try Ubuntu for myself one day."(?) That is just
>> too funny. Apparently you have some expertise, yet you haven't
>> downloaded a LIVE ISO of some Linux flavor or another and ACTUALLY
>> checked it out? ..Yet you have an opinion that, "Ubuntu is not easy
>> enough for the vast majority of Windows home users. Period."(?) How
>> can you possibly state that, having not tried it? Gimme a break!
>>
>> I tested Win7 from beta through RC, and like it a lot, in fact MUCH
>> better than the EXPENSIVE Vista Ultimate I purchased. (Which recently
>> crashed with the dreaded BLACK Screen of Death - KSOD) However, I
>> really like the Linux I have as well, so I use them BOTH for my
>> purposes, and it works out very well.
>>
>> G'day
>>
>
> I agree 100%. Why not have the best of both worlds?
>
You keep saying that but I've yet to come across anything that can't be
done using Windows that can be done on linux. Whereas we all know you
can't run most games on linux.
So you can do everything on Windows but not everything on linux. So why
would anyone need two computers or two OS's when one (Windows) will do
everything?
Oh and spare us the "safe surfing bullshit routine" ok.
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Muad'Dib wrote:
>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>> Rockinghorse Winner expressed an opinion:
>>>>> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ"<billy@yanaire.org> writes:
>>>>>> Anyway, most here don't give a RATS ASS about that INFERIOR
>>>>>> Ubuntu. If you
>>>>>> want to use it go ahead but we don't need or want to hear about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I should report when I take a shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a Linux lurker on this group, and what the origninal poster
>>>>> did was
>>>>> just stupid, trolling and inexcusable. If I were you I'd killfile
>>>>> him,
>>>>> ignore him and continue to do what you've been doing: discuss
>>>>> Windows7.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's folks like that that give Linux a black eye.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carry on...
>>>>
>>>> I guess you guys don't really read what you comment on. =D
>>>>
>>>> I'm a happy Vista user and I do not use *nix, at all! As far as I'm
>>>> concerned,---> Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast majority of
>>>> Windows home users. Period.<---
>>>
>>> Not true, I have many clients happily using Linux of one flavor or
>>> another, who, (respectfully), are basically clueless users. Once set
>>> up, there isn't really much to using it. Pretty much the same as
>>> Winders in some ways. Clueless people are just that, "CLUELESS" it
>>> doesn't really matter WHAT OS is involved I have found. Clueless is
>>> clueless, regardless. It is the TEACHING, that matters. Once I have
>>> taught users on THEIR CHOICE of OS, they move right along. It makes
>>> NO difference which OS they choose. This bit of one OS being better
>>> than the other is hogwash. It is ALL about the needs, wants,
>>> education, and not solely the OS "PERIOD."
>>>
>>>> If this were a *real* Window 7 newsgroup, I would have made a better
>>>> subject line in my first post, instead of pasting the article title.
>>>
>>> This IS a "real" Win7 news group. What a crack-up..
>>>
>>> Whatever, you posted pro Ubuntu in an MS orientated group basically,
>>> and are now backpedaling. ..Unnecessarily I might add. BOTH OS's have
>>> good points and bad points. I happily use them both for different
>>> reasons, no need to take sides.
>>>
>>> Oh, and "A reason to try Ubuntu for myself one day."(?) That is just
>>> too funny. Apparently you have some expertise, yet you haven't
>>> downloaded a LIVE ISO of some Linux flavor or another and ACTUALLY
>>> checked it out? ..Yet you have an opinion that, "Ubuntu is not easy
>>> enough for the vast majority of Windows home users. Period."(?) How
>>> can you possibly state that, having not tried it? Gimme a break!
>>>
>>> I tested Win7 from beta through RC, and like it a lot, in fact MUCH
>>> better than the EXPENSIVE Vista Ultimate I purchased. (Which recently
>>> crashed with the dreaded BLACK Screen of Death - KSOD) However, I
>>> really like the Linux I have as well, so I use them BOTH for my
>>> purposes, and it works out very well.
>>>
>>> G'day
>>>
>>
>> I agree 100%. Why not have the best of both worlds?
>>
> You keep saying that but I've yet to come across anything that can't be
> done using Windows that can be done on linux. Whereas we all know you
> can't run most games on linux.
> So you can do everything on Windows but not everything on linux. So why
> would anyone need two computers or two OS's when one (Windows) will do
> everything?
> Oh and spare us the "safe surfing bullshit routine" ok.

Stability.

Safe surfing.

Much easier to update and updates come when ready not when it's "that
time of the month".

Much easier to install programs

Bulletproof compared to Windows malware-wise

Many Linux programs are NOT made for Windows. Evolution, for example.
Nautilus, ssh and One Cloud are others.

Faster USB file transfers

Faster Internet speeds

Frank doesn't use it.

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KristleBawl

Flightless Bird
Chris Ahlstrom expressed an opinion:
> KristleBawl pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> I'm a happy Vista user and I do not use *nix, at all! As far as I'm
>> concerned, Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast majority of Windows
>> home users. Period.
>
> Speaking from a real hard base of experience, there, eh?

Yes, my life in the work place network is over and my disabled years are
being spent keeping friends and relatives online. ;-)

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Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Muad'Dib wrote:
>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>> Rockinghorse Winner expressed an opinion:
>>>>>> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ"<billy@yanaire.org> writes:
>>>>>>> Anyway, most here don't give a RATS ASS about that INFERIOR
>>>>>>> Ubuntu. If you
>>>>>>> want to use it go ahead but we don't need or want to hear about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe I should report when I take a shit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a Linux lurker on this group, and what the origninal poster
>>>>>> did was
>>>>>> just stupid, trolling and inexcusable. If I were you I'd killfile
>>>>>> him,
>>>>>> ignore him and continue to do what you've been doing: discuss
>>>>>> Windows7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's folks like that that give Linux a black eye.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carry on...
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess you guys don't really read what you comment on. =D
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a happy Vista user and I do not use *nix, at all! As far as I'm
>>>>> concerned,---> Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast majority of
>>>>> Windows home users. Period.<---
>>>>
>>>> Not true, I have many clients happily using Linux of one flavor or
>>>> another, who, (respectfully), are basically clueless users. Once set
>>>> up, there isn't really much to using it. Pretty much the same as
>>>> Winders in some ways. Clueless people are just that, "CLUELESS" it
>>>> doesn't really matter WHAT OS is involved I have found. Clueless is
>>>> clueless, regardless. It is the TEACHING, that matters. Once I have
>>>> taught users on THEIR CHOICE of OS, they move right along. It makes
>>>> NO difference which OS they choose. This bit of one OS being better
>>>> than the other is hogwash. It is ALL about the needs, wants,
>>>> education, and not solely the OS "PERIOD."
>>>>
>>>>> If this were a *real* Window 7 newsgroup, I would have made a
>>>>> better subject line in my first post, instead of pasting the
>>>>> article title.
>>>>
>>>> This IS a "real" Win7 news group. What a crack-up..
>>>>
>>>> Whatever, you posted pro Ubuntu in an MS orientated group basically,
>>>> and are now backpedaling. ..Unnecessarily I might add. BOTH OS's
>>>> have good points and bad points. I happily use them both for
>>>> different reasons, no need to take sides.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and "A reason to try Ubuntu for myself one day."(?) That is just
>>>> too funny. Apparently you have some expertise, yet you haven't
>>>> downloaded a LIVE ISO of some Linux flavor or another and ACTUALLY
>>>> checked it out? ..Yet you have an opinion that, "Ubuntu is not easy
>>>> enough for the vast majority of Windows home users. Period."(?) How
>>>> can you possibly state that, having not tried it? Gimme a break!
>>>>
>>>> I tested Win7 from beta through RC, and like it a lot, in fact MUCH
>>>> better than the EXPENSIVE Vista Ultimate I purchased. (Which
>>>> recently crashed with the dreaded BLACK Screen of Death - KSOD)
>>>> However, I really like the Linux I have as well, so I use them BOTH
>>>> for my purposes, and it works out very well.
>>>>
>>>> G'day
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree 100%. Why not have the best of both worlds?
>>>
>> You keep saying that but I've yet to come across anything that can't
>> be done using Windows that can be done on linux. Whereas we all know
>> you can't run most games on linux.
>> So you can do everything on Windows but not everything on linux. So
>> why would anyone need two computers or two OS's when one (Windows)
>> will do everything?
>> Oh and spare us the "safe surfing bullshit routine" ok.
>
> Stability.
>
Windows is stable.

> Safe surfing.

Is practiced by the user using Windows.

> Much easier to update and updates come when ready not when it's "that
> time of the month".

Windows is set to automatically update itself.
>
> Much easier to install programs

Could not be any easier than installing any app in Windows.
>
> Bulletproof compared to Windows malware-wise
>
No it isn't.

> Many Linux programs are NOT made for Windows. Evolution, for example.
> Nautilus, ssh and One Cloud are others.

So?
>
> Faster USB file transfers

Nope!
>
> Faster Internet speeds

Nope!
>
> Frank doesn't use it.

LIAR! Frank was using linux distros before you even knew there was such
a thing as linux.

Now try and tell us what you can do in linux that can't be done in Windows.
Oops!

>
 
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Frank

Flightless Bird
KristleBawl wrote:
> Alias expressed an opinion:
>> Frank doesn't use it.
>
> Ok, I'll give you that one. It's a compelling reason to try Ubuntu. LOL
>
Sorry kristlebawl, but I've literally tried over a dozen different linux
distros over the last decade and none of them fulfill the promise linux
advocates have set forth. I no longer have any desire to waste my time
trying another one. I find Windows Vista and now Windows 7 to perfectly
suit my every need.
As far as I can tell, there is absolutely no real attraction to linux
other than its free, but then again, I'm not broke and the cost of
Windows is relatively small in the realm of all things.
YMMV.
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Muad'Dib wrote:
>>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>>> Rockinghorse Winner expressed an opinion:
>>>>>>> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ"<billy@yanaire.org> writes:
>>>>>>>> Anyway, most here don't give a RATS ASS about that INFERIOR
>>>>>>>> Ubuntu. If you
>>>>>>>> want to use it go ahead but we don't need or want to hear about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe I should report when I take a shit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a Linux lurker on this group, and what the origninal poster
>>>>>>> did was
>>>>>>> just stupid, trolling and inexcusable. If I were you I'd
>>>>>>> killfile him,
>>>>>>> ignore him and continue to do what you've been doing: discuss
>>>>>>> Windows7.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's folks like that that give Linux a black eye.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carry on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess you guys don't really read what you comment on. =D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm a happy Vista user and I do not use *nix, at all! As far as
>>>>>> I'm concerned,---> Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast majority
>>>>>> of Windows home users. Period.<---
>>>>>
>>>>> Not true, I have many clients happily using Linux of one flavor or
>>>>> another, who, (respectfully), are basically clueless users. Once
>>>>> set up, there isn't really much to using it. Pretty much the same
>>>>> as Winders in some ways. Clueless people are just that, "CLUELESS"
>>>>> it doesn't really matter WHAT OS is involved I have found. Clueless
>>>>> is clueless, regardless. It is the TEACHING, that matters. Once I
>>>>> have taught users on THEIR CHOICE of OS, they move right along. It
>>>>> makes NO difference which OS they choose. This bit of one OS being
>>>>> better than the other is hogwash. It is ALL about the needs, wants,
>>>>> education, and not solely the OS "PERIOD."
>>>>>
>>>>>> If this were a *real* Window 7 newsgroup, I would have made a
>>>>>> better subject line in my first post, instead of pasting the
>>>>>> article title.
>>>>>
>>>>> This IS a "real" Win7 news group. What a crack-up..
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever, you posted pro Ubuntu in an MS orientated group
>>>>> basically, and are now backpedaling. ..Unnecessarily I might add.
>>>>> BOTH OS's have good points and bad points. I happily use them both
>>>>> for different reasons, no need to take sides.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and "A reason to try Ubuntu for myself one day."(?) That is
>>>>> just too funny. Apparently you have some expertise, yet you haven't
>>>>> downloaded a LIVE ISO of some Linux flavor or another and ACTUALLY
>>>>> checked it out? ..Yet you have an opinion that, "Ubuntu is not easy
>>>>> enough for the vast majority of Windows home users. Period."(?) How
>>>>> can you possibly state that, having not tried it? Gimme a break!
>>>>>
>>>>> I tested Win7 from beta through RC, and like it a lot, in fact MUCH
>>>>> better than the EXPENSIVE Vista Ultimate I purchased. (Which
>>>>> recently crashed with the dreaded BLACK Screen of Death - KSOD)
>>>>> However, I really like the Linux I have as well, so I use them BOTH
>>>>> for my purposes, and it works out very well.
>>>>>
>>>>> G'day
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree 100%. Why not have the best of both worlds?
>>>>
>>> You keep saying that but I've yet to come across anything that can't
>>> be done using Windows that can be done on linux. Whereas we all know
>>> you can't run most games on linux.
>>> So you can do everything on Windows but not everything on linux. So
>>> why would anyone need two computers or two OS's when one (Windows)
>>> will do everything?
>>> Oh and spare us the "safe surfing bullshit routine" ok.
>>
>> Stability.
>>
> Windows is stable.

LOL! Good one, Frank.

>
>> Safe surfing.
>
> Is practiced by the user using Windows.

Not needed in Ubuntu. You can surf anywhere you like and open any email
you like.

>
>> Much easier to update and updates come when ready not when it's "that
>> time of the month".
>
> Windows is set to automatically update itself.

Which is stupid when you consider that updating Windows should not be
done while using it and with your anti virus' resident protection enabled.

>>
>> Much easier to install programs
>
> Could not be any easier than installing any app in Windows.

Oh, yes it could and no reboot necessary.

>>
>> Bulletproof compared to Windows malware-wise
>>
> No it isn't.

Yes, it is.

>
>> Many Linux programs are NOT made for Windows. Evolution, for example.
>> Nautilus, ssh and One Cloud are others.
>
> So?

It answers your ill informed question, of course.

>>
>> Faster USB file transfers
>
> Nope!

Yep.

>>
>> Faster Internet speeds
>
> Nope!

Yep.

>>
>> Frank doesn't use it.
>
> LIAR! Frank was using linux distros before you even knew there was such
> a thing as linux.

Linux has come a long way since you used it ten years ago. I knew there
was such a thing as Linux back in 1997.

>
> Now try and tell us what you can do in linux that can't be done in Windows.
> Oops!

Already did but it is obviously beyond your comprehension.

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Lord Vetinari

Flightless Bird
"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
<me211@privacy.net> wrote in message news:hi3lfh$6nv$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Lord Vetinari wrote:
>> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
>> <me13@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:hi2rb6$tbl$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> Lord Vetinari wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:hi2iu2$drm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> No Spam wrote:
>>>>>> In article <hi2e34$rhu$1@news.eternal-september.org> KristleBawl
>>>>>> <kristlebawl@some.email> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 to Include Beginner's Manual
>>>>>>> http://lifehacker.com/5441494/ubuntu-1004-to-include-beginners-manual
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finally, someone decided to create something like a help file for
>>>>>>> newbies! If this continues to be expended, it might actually give me
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> reason to try Ubuntu for myself one day. Until I can recommend it
>>>>>>> to my
>>>>>>> friends and relatives for everyday use, because I have to fix their
>>>>>>> user-created problems, there's no reason to check it out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before anyone flames this message, remember, this is an *alt* group,
>>>>>>> *not* a support group. ;-P
>>>>>> Not a flame, but being an alt newsgroup does not warrant posting off
>>>>>> topic totally unrelated messages.
>>>>>> At least pit OT in the subject line where people who are not
>>>>>> interested
>>>>>> can skip it or filter it.
>>>>> Yessir, officer sir!
>>>> You are annoying, and have not contributed much, if anything to the
>>>> group. Whether a ng is alt., or unmoderated, you should respect the
>>>> charter, and do as No Spam stated. Otherwise, it's off to the Bozo-bin
>>>> for you.
>>>>
>>>> Bye, Bozo.
>>> What charter?
>>
>> Normally, when a ng is created, so is a charter, to inform users of what
>> the group is intended as. Probably less common these days, though I
>> can't claim expertise in this area. IOW, if I'm mistaken about anything
>> I've said, I'm listening.
>
> I don't know if there is a charter or not for this group, that's why I was
> asking.

Sorry, my poor muddled mind th0ught you meant "what's a charter?" Hehheh
 
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Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Muad'Dib wrote:
>>>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>>>> Rockinghorse Winner expressed an opinion:
>>>>>>>> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ"<billy@yanaire.org> writes:
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, most here don't give a RATS ASS about that INFERIOR
>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu. If you
>>>>>>>>> want to use it go ahead but we don't need or want to hear about
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe I should report when I take a shit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just a Linux lurker on this group, and what the origninal poster
>>>>>>>> did was
>>>>>>>> just stupid, trolling and inexcusable. If I were you I'd
>>>>>>>> killfile him,
>>>>>>>> ignore him and continue to do what you've been doing: discuss
>>>>>>>> Windows7.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's folks like that that give Linux a black eye.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carry on...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess you guys don't really read what you comment on. =D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm a happy Vista user and I do not use *nix, at all! As far as
>>>>>>> I'm concerned,---> Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast
>>>>>>> majority of Windows home users. Period.<---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not true, I have many clients happily using Linux of one flavor or
>>>>>> another, who, (respectfully), are basically clueless users. Once
>>>>>> set up, there isn't really much to using it. Pretty much the same
>>>>>> as Winders in some ways. Clueless people are just that, "CLUELESS"
>>>>>> it doesn't really matter WHAT OS is involved I have found.
>>>>>> Clueless is clueless, regardless. It is the TEACHING, that
>>>>>> matters. Once I have taught users on THEIR CHOICE of OS, they move
>>>>>> right along. It makes NO difference which OS they choose. This bit
>>>>>> of one OS being better than the other is hogwash. It is ALL about
>>>>>> the needs, wants, education, and not solely the OS "PERIOD."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this were a *real* Window 7 newsgroup, I would have made a
>>>>>>> better subject line in my first post, instead of pasting the
>>>>>>> article title.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This IS a "real" Win7 news group. What a crack-up..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whatever, you posted pro Ubuntu in an MS orientated group
>>>>>> basically, and are now backpedaling. ..Unnecessarily I might add.
>>>>>> BOTH OS's have good points and bad points. I happily use them both
>>>>>> for different reasons, no need to take sides.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and "A reason to try Ubuntu for myself one day."(?) That is
>>>>>> just too funny. Apparently you have some expertise, yet you
>>>>>> haven't downloaded a LIVE ISO of some Linux flavor or another and
>>>>>> ACTUALLY checked it out? ..Yet you have an opinion that, "Ubuntu
>>>>>> is not easy enough for the vast majority of Windows home users.
>>>>>> Period."(?) How can you possibly state that, having not tried it?
>>>>>> Gimme a break!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tested Win7 from beta through RC, and like it a lot, in fact
>>>>>> MUCH better than the EXPENSIVE Vista Ultimate I purchased. (Which
>>>>>> recently crashed with the dreaded BLACK Screen of Death - KSOD)
>>>>>> However, I really like the Linux I have as well, so I use them
>>>>>> BOTH for my purposes, and it works out very well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> G'day
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree 100%. Why not have the best of both worlds?
>>>>>
>>>> You keep saying that but I've yet to come across anything that can't
>>>> be done using Windows that can be done on linux. Whereas we all know
>>>> you can't run most games on linux.
>>>> So you can do everything on Windows but not everything on linux. So
>>>> why would anyone need two computers or two OS's when one (Windows)
>>>> will do everything?
>>>> Oh and spare us the "safe surfing bullshit routine" ok.
>>>
>>> Stability.
>>>
>> Windows is stable.
>
> LOL! Good one, Frank.

Mine are. But wait...you don't use Windows Vista or Windows 7 so you
don't have a clue do you!
Oops!
>
>>
>>> Safe surfing.
>>
>> Is practiced by the user using Windows.
>
> Not needed in Ubuntu. You can surf anywhere you like and open any email
> you like.
>
Keep telling yourself that lie...cause only linux users believe it.

>>
>>> Much easier to update and updates come when ready not when it's "that
>>> time of the month".
>>
>> Windows is set to automatically update itself.
>
> Which is stupid when you consider that updating Windows should not be
> done while using it and with your anti virus' resident protection enabled.

Its apparent you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to
Windows Vista or Windows 7.
>
>>>
>>> Much easier to install programs
>>
>> Could not be any easier than installing any app in Windows.
>
> Oh, yes it could and no reboot necessary.

That is simply another one of your incessant, insidious lies.
>
>>>
>>> Bulletproof compared to Windows malware-wise
>>>
>> No it isn't.
>
> Yes, it is.

Then tell me why none of my Windows computers have ever been infected?
Well...?
>
>>
>>> Many Linux programs are NOT made for Windows. Evolution, for example.
>>> Nautilus, ssh and One Cloud are others.
>>
>> So?
>
> It answers your ill informed question, of course.

No it doesn't. You have yet to offer one real thing linux can do that
Windows can't. Yet we all know that linux can't play games.
Oops!

>>>
>>> Faster USB file transfers
>>
>> Nope!
>
> Yep.
>
Not the linux distros I've tried.
>>>
>>> Faster Internet speeds
>>
>> Nope!
>
> Yep.

You're childish responses noted.
>
>>>
>>> Frank doesn't use it.
>>
>> LIAR! Frank was using linux distros before you even knew there was
>> such a thing as linux.
>
> Linux has come a long way since you used it ten years ago.

I last used linux about a year ago.
Oops!

I knew there
> was such a thing as Linux back in 1997.

That is not what you said before. You're confusing your lies...again!
Oops!
>
>>
>> Now try and tell us what you can do in linux that can't be done in
>> Windows.
>> Oops!
>
> Already did but it is obviously beyond your comprehension.

You not stated one thing you can do in linux that can't be done in Windows.
NOT ONE!!!
Try again or else accept the fact that you're full of shit and just STFU,ok!
Oops!
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> Muad'Dib wrote:
>>>>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>>>>> Rockinghorse Winner expressed an opinion:
>>>>>>>>> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ"<billy@yanaire.org> writes:
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, most here don't give a RATS ASS about that INFERIOR
>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu. If you
>>>>>>>>>> want to use it go ahead but we don't need or want to hear
>>>>>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I should report when I take a shit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just a Linux lurker on this group, and what the origninal
>>>>>>>>> poster did was
>>>>>>>>> just stupid, trolling and inexcusable. If I were you I'd
>>>>>>>>> killfile him,
>>>>>>>>> ignore him and continue to do what you've been doing: discuss
>>>>>>>>> Windows7.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's folks like that that give Linux a black eye.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Carry on...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess you guys don't really read what you comment on. =D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm a happy Vista user and I do not use *nix, at all! As far as
>>>>>>>> I'm concerned,---> Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast
>>>>>>>> majority of Windows home users. Period.<---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not true, I have many clients happily using Linux of one flavor
>>>>>>> or another, who, (respectfully), are basically clueless users.
>>>>>>> Once set up, there isn't really much to using it. Pretty much the
>>>>>>> same as Winders in some ways. Clueless people are just that,
>>>>>>> "CLUELESS" it doesn't really matter WHAT OS is involved I have
>>>>>>> found. Clueless is clueless, regardless. It is the TEACHING, that
>>>>>>> matters. Once I have taught users on THEIR CHOICE of OS, they
>>>>>>> move right along. It makes NO difference which OS they choose.
>>>>>>> This bit of one OS being better than the other is hogwash. It is
>>>>>>> ALL about the needs, wants, education, and not solely the OS
>>>>>>> "PERIOD."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this were a *real* Window 7 newsgroup, I would have made a
>>>>>>>> better subject line in my first post, instead of pasting the
>>>>>>>> article title.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This IS a "real" Win7 news group. What a crack-up..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whatever, you posted pro Ubuntu in an MS orientated group
>>>>>>> basically, and are now backpedaling. ..Unnecessarily I might add.
>>>>>>> BOTH OS's have good points and bad points. I happily use them
>>>>>>> both for different reasons, no need to take sides.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, and "A reason to try Ubuntu for myself one day."(?) That is
>>>>>>> just too funny. Apparently you have some expertise, yet you
>>>>>>> haven't downloaded a LIVE ISO of some Linux flavor or another and
>>>>>>> ACTUALLY checked it out? ..Yet you have an opinion that, "Ubuntu
>>>>>>> is not easy enough for the vast majority of Windows home users.
>>>>>>> Period."(?) How can you possibly state that, having not tried it?
>>>>>>> Gimme a break!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tested Win7 from beta through RC, and like it a lot, in fact
>>>>>>> MUCH better than the EXPENSIVE Vista Ultimate I purchased. (Which
>>>>>>> recently crashed with the dreaded BLACK Screen of Death - KSOD)
>>>>>>> However, I really like the Linux I have as well, so I use them
>>>>>>> BOTH for my purposes, and it works out very well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> G'day
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree 100%. Why not have the best of both worlds?
>>>>>>
>>>>> You keep saying that but I've yet to come across anything that
>>>>> can't be done using Windows that can be done on linux. Whereas we
>>>>> all know you can't run most games on linux.
>>>>> So you can do everything on Windows but not everything on linux. So
>>>>> why would anyone need two computers or two OS's when one (Windows)
>>>>> will do everything?
>>>>> Oh and spare us the "safe surfing bullshit routine" ok.
>>>>
>>>> Stability.
>>>>
>>> Windows is stable.
>>
>> LOL! Good one, Frank.
>
> Mine are. But wait...you don't use Windows Vista or Windows 7 so you
> don't have a clue do you!
> Oops!
>>
>>>
>>>> Safe surfing.
>>>
>>> Is practiced by the user using Windows.
>>
>> Not needed in Ubuntu. You can surf anywhere you like and open any
>> email you like.
>>
> Keep telling yourself that lie...cause only linux users believe it.
>
>>>
>>>> Much easier to update and updates come when ready not when it's
>>>> "that time of the month".
>>>
>>> Windows is set to automatically update itself.
>>
>> Which is stupid when you consider that updating Windows should not be
>> done while using it and with your anti virus' resident protection
>> enabled.
>
> Its apparent you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to
> Windows Vista or Windows 7.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Much easier to install programs
>>>
>>> Could not be any easier than installing any app in Windows.
>>
>> Oh, yes it could and no reboot necessary.
>
> That is simply another one of your incessant, insidious lies.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Bulletproof compared to Windows malware-wise
>>>>
>>> No it isn't.
>>
>> Yes, it is.
>
> Then tell me why none of my Windows computers have ever been infected?
> Well...?
>>
>>>
>>>> Many Linux programs are NOT made for Windows. Evolution, for
>>>> example. Nautilus, ssh and One Cloud are others.
>>>
>>> So?
>>
>> It answers your ill informed question, of course.
>
> No it doesn't. You have yet to offer one real thing linux can do that
> Windows can't. Yet we all know that linux can't play games.
> Oops!
>
>>>>
>>>> Faster USB file transfers
>>>
>>> Nope!
>>
>> Yep.
>>
> Not the linux distros I've tried.
>>>>
>>>> Faster Internet speeds
>>>
>>> Nope!
>>
>> Yep.
>
> You're childish responses noted.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Frank doesn't use it.
>>>
>>> LIAR! Frank was using linux distros before you even knew there was
>>> such a thing as linux.
>>
>> Linux has come a long way since you used it ten years ago.
>
> I last used linux about a year ago.
> Oops!
>
> I knew there
>> was such a thing as Linux back in 1997.
>
> That is not what you said before. You're confusing your lies...again!
> Oops!
>>
>>>
>>> Now try and tell us what you can do in linux that can't be done in
>>> Windows.
>>> Oops!
>>
>> Already did but it is obviously beyond your comprehension.
>
> You not stated one thing you can do in linux that can't be done in Windows.
> NOT ONE!!!
> Try again or else accept the fact that you're full of shit and just
> STFU,ok!
> Oops!

Yawn.

--
Alias
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> Muad'Dib wrote:
>>>>>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Rockinghorse Winner expressed an opinion:
>>>>>>>>>> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ"<billy@yanaire.org> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, most here don't give a RATS ASS about that INFERIOR
>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu. If you
>>>>>>>>>>> want to use it go ahead but we don't need or want to hear
>>>>>>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I should report when I take a shit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just a Linux lurker on this group, and what the origninal
>>>>>>>>>> poster did was
>>>>>>>>>> just stupid, trolling and inexcusable. If I were you I'd
>>>>>>>>>> killfile him,
>>>>>>>>>> ignore him and continue to do what you've been doing: discuss
>>>>>>>>>> Windows7.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's folks like that that give Linux a black eye.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carry on...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess you guys don't really read what you comment on. =D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm a happy Vista user and I do not use *nix, at all! As far as
>>>>>>>>> I'm concerned,---> Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast
>>>>>>>>> majority of Windows home users. Period.<---
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not true, I have many clients happily using Linux of one flavor
>>>>>>>> or another, who, (respectfully), are basically clueless users.
>>>>>>>> Once set up, there isn't really much to using it. Pretty much
>>>>>>>> the same as Winders in some ways. Clueless people are just that,
>>>>>>>> "CLUELESS" it doesn't really matter WHAT OS is involved I have
>>>>>>>> found. Clueless is clueless, regardless. It is the TEACHING,
>>>>>>>> that matters. Once I have taught users on THEIR CHOICE of OS,
>>>>>>>> they move right along. It makes NO difference which OS they
>>>>>>>> choose. This bit of one OS being better than the other is
>>>>>>>> hogwash. It is ALL about the needs, wants, education, and not
>>>>>>>> solely the OS "PERIOD."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If this were a *real* Window 7 newsgroup, I would have made a
>>>>>>>>> better subject line in my first post, instead of pasting the
>>>>>>>>> article title.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This IS a "real" Win7 news group. What a crack-up..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Whatever, you posted pro Ubuntu in an MS orientated group
>>>>>>>> basically, and are now backpedaling. ..Unnecessarily I might
>>>>>>>> add. BOTH OS's have good points and bad points. I happily use
>>>>>>>> them both for different reasons, no need to take sides.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, and "A reason to try Ubuntu for myself one day."(?) That is
>>>>>>>> just too funny. Apparently you have some expertise, yet you
>>>>>>>> haven't downloaded a LIVE ISO of some Linux flavor or another
>>>>>>>> and ACTUALLY checked it out? ..Yet you have an opinion that,
>>>>>>>> "Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast majority of Windows home
>>>>>>>> users. Period."(?) How can you possibly state that, having not
>>>>>>>> tried it? Gimme a break!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I tested Win7 from beta through RC, and like it a lot, in fact
>>>>>>>> MUCH better than the EXPENSIVE Vista Ultimate I purchased.
>>>>>>>> (Which recently crashed with the dreaded BLACK Screen of Death -
>>>>>>>> KSOD) However, I really like the Linux I have as well, so I use
>>>>>>>> them BOTH for my purposes, and it works out very well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> G'day
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree 100%. Why not have the best of both worlds?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You keep saying that but I've yet to come across anything that
>>>>>> can't be done using Windows that can be done on linux. Whereas we
>>>>>> all know you can't run most games on linux.
>>>>>> So you can do everything on Windows but not everything on linux.
>>>>>> So why would anyone need two computers or two OS's when one
>>>>>> (Windows) will do everything?
>>>>>> Oh and spare us the "safe surfing bullshit routine" ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stability.
>>>>>
>>>> Windows is stable.
>>>
>>> LOL! Good one, Frank.
>>
>> Mine are. But wait...you don't use Windows Vista or Windows 7 so you
>> don't have a clue do you!
>> Oops!
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Safe surfing.
>>>>
>>>> Is practiced by the user using Windows.
>>>
>>> Not needed in Ubuntu. You can surf anywhere you like and open any
>>> email you like.
>>>
>> Keep telling yourself that lie...cause only linux users believe it.
>>
>>>>
>>>>> Much easier to update and updates come when ready not when it's
>>>>> "that time of the month".
>>>>
>>>> Windows is set to automatically update itself.
>>>
>>> Which is stupid when you consider that updating Windows should not be
>>> done while using it and with your anti virus' resident protection
>>> enabled.
>>
>> Its apparent you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes
>> to Windows Vista or Windows 7.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Much easier to install programs
>>>>
>>>> Could not be any easier than installing any app in Windows.
>>>
>>> Oh, yes it could and no reboot necessary.
>>
>> That is simply another one of your incessant, insidious lies.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bulletproof compared to Windows malware-wise
>>>>>
>>>> No it isn't.
>>>
>>> Yes, it is.
>>
>> Then tell me why none of my Windows computers have ever been infected?
>> Well...?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Many Linux programs are NOT made for Windows. Evolution, for
>>>>> example. Nautilus, ssh and One Cloud are others.
>>>>
>>>> So?
>>>
>>> It answers your ill informed question, of course.
>>
>> No it doesn't. You have yet to offer one real thing linux can do that
>> Windows can't. Yet we all know that linux can't play games.
>> Oops!
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Faster USB file transfers
>>>>
>>>> Nope!
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>>
>> Not the linux distros I've tried.
>>>>>
>>>>> Faster Internet speeds
>>>>
>>>> Nope!
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>
>> You're childish responses noted.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank doesn't use it.
>>>>
>>>> LIAR! Frank was using linux distros before you even knew there was
>>>> such a thing as linux.
>>>
>>> Linux has come a long way since you used it ten years ago.
>>
>> I last used linux about a year ago.
>> Oops!
>>
>> I knew there
>>> was such a thing as Linux back in 1997.
>>
>> That is not what you said before. You're confusing your lies...again!
>> Oops!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now try and tell us what you can do in linux that can't be done in
>>>> Windows.
>>>> Oops!
>>>
>>> Already did but it is obviously beyond your comprehension.
>>
>> You not stated one thing you can do in linux that can't be done in
>> Windows.
>> NOT ONE!!!
>> Try again or else accept the fact that you're full of shit and just
>> STFU,ok!
>> Oops!
>
> Yawn.
>
hehehe...can't can you!
Oops!
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>> Muad'Dib wrote:
>>>>>>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Rockinghorse Winner expressed an opinion:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ"<billy@yanaire.org> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, most here don't give a RATS ASS about that INFERIOR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu. If you
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to use it go ahead but we don't need or want to hear
>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I should report when I take a shit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just a Linux lurker on this group, and what the origninal
>>>>>>>>>>> poster did was
>>>>>>>>>>> just stupid, trolling and inexcusable. If I were you I'd
>>>>>>>>>>> killfile him,
>>>>>>>>>>> ignore him and continue to do what you've been doing: discuss
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows7.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's folks like that that give Linux a black eye.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Carry on...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guess you guys don't really read what you comment on. =D
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm a happy Vista user and I do not use *nix, at all! As far
>>>>>>>>>> as I'm concerned,---> Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast
>>>>>>>>>> majority of Windows home users. Period.<---
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not true, I have many clients happily using Linux of one flavor
>>>>>>>>> or another, who, (respectfully), are basically clueless users.
>>>>>>>>> Once set up, there isn't really much to using it. Pretty much
>>>>>>>>> the same as Winders in some ways. Clueless people are just
>>>>>>>>> that, "CLUELESS" it doesn't really matter WHAT OS is involved I
>>>>>>>>> have found. Clueless is clueless, regardless. It is the
>>>>>>>>> TEACHING, that matters. Once I have taught users on THEIR
>>>>>>>>> CHOICE of OS, they move right along. It makes NO difference
>>>>>>>>> which OS they choose. This bit of one OS being better than the
>>>>>>>>> other is hogwash. It is ALL about the needs, wants, education,
>>>>>>>>> and not solely the OS "PERIOD."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If this were a *real* Window 7 newsgroup, I would have made a
>>>>>>>>>> better subject line in my first post, instead of pasting the
>>>>>>>>>> article title.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This IS a "real" Win7 news group. What a crack-up..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Whatever, you posted pro Ubuntu in an MS orientated group
>>>>>>>>> basically, and are now backpedaling. ..Unnecessarily I might
>>>>>>>>> add. BOTH OS's have good points and bad points. I happily use
>>>>>>>>> them both for different reasons, no need to take sides.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh, and "A reason to try Ubuntu for myself one day."(?) That is
>>>>>>>>> just too funny. Apparently you have some expertise, yet you
>>>>>>>>> haven't downloaded a LIVE ISO of some Linux flavor or another
>>>>>>>>> and ACTUALLY checked it out? ..Yet you have an opinion that,
>>>>>>>>> "Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast majority of Windows
>>>>>>>>> home users. Period."(?) How can you possibly state that, having
>>>>>>>>> not tried it? Gimme a break!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I tested Win7 from beta through RC, and like it a lot, in fact
>>>>>>>>> MUCH better than the EXPENSIVE Vista Ultimate I purchased.
>>>>>>>>> (Which recently crashed with the dreaded BLACK Screen of Death
>>>>>>>>> - KSOD) However, I really like the Linux I have as well, so I
>>>>>>>>> use them BOTH for my purposes, and it works out very well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> G'day
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree 100%. Why not have the best of both worlds?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You keep saying that but I've yet to come across anything that
>>>>>>> can't be done using Windows that can be done on linux. Whereas we
>>>>>>> all know you can't run most games on linux.
>>>>>>> So you can do everything on Windows but not everything on linux.
>>>>>>> So why would anyone need two computers or two OS's when one
>>>>>>> (Windows) will do everything?
>>>>>>> Oh and spare us the "safe surfing bullshit routine" ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stability.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Windows is stable.
>>>>
>>>> LOL! Good one, Frank.
>>>
>>> Mine are. But wait...you don't use Windows Vista or Windows 7 so you
>>> don't have a clue do you!
>>> Oops!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Safe surfing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is practiced by the user using Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Not needed in Ubuntu. You can surf anywhere you like and open any
>>>> email you like.
>>>>
>>> Keep telling yourself that lie...cause only linux users believe it.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Much easier to update and updates come when ready not when it's
>>>>>> "that time of the month".
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows is set to automatically update itself.
>>>>
>>>> Which is stupid when you consider that updating Windows should not
>>>> be done while using it and with your anti virus' resident protection
>>>> enabled.
>>>
>>> Its apparent you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes
>>> to Windows Vista or Windows 7.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Much easier to install programs
>>>>>
>>>>> Could not be any easier than installing any app in Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, yes it could and no reboot necessary.
>>>
>>> That is simply another one of your incessant, insidious lies.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bulletproof compared to Windows malware-wise
>>>>>>
>>>>> No it isn't.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is.
>>>
>>> Then tell me why none of my Windows computers have ever been infected?
>>> Well...?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Many Linux programs are NOT made for Windows. Evolution, for
>>>>>> example. Nautilus, ssh and One Cloud are others.
>>>>>
>>>>> So?
>>>>
>>>> It answers your ill informed question, of course.
>>>
>>> No it doesn't. You have yet to offer one real thing linux can do that
>>> Windows can't. Yet we all know that linux can't play games.
>>> Oops!
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Faster USB file transfers
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope!
>>>>
>>>> Yep.
>>>>
>>> Not the linux distros I've tried.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Faster Internet speeds
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope!
>>>>
>>>> Yep.
>>>
>>> You're childish responses noted.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank doesn't use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> LIAR! Frank was using linux distros before you even knew there was
>>>>> such a thing as linux.
>>>>
>>>> Linux has come a long way since you used it ten years ago.
>>>
>>> I last used linux about a year ago.
>>> Oops!
>>>
>>> I knew there
>>>> was such a thing as Linux back in 1997.
>>>
>>> That is not what you said before. You're confusing your lies...again!
>>> Oops!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now try and tell us what you can do in linux that can't be done in
>>>>> Windows.
>>>>> Oops!
>>>>
>>>> Already did but it is obviously beyond your comprehension.
>>>
>>> You not stated one thing you can do in linux that can't be done in
>>> Windows.
>>> NOT ONE!!!
>>> Try again or else accept the fact that you're full of shit and just
>>> STFU,ok!
>>> Oops!
>>
>> Yawn.
>>
> hehehe...can't can you!
> Oops!

Already did and those with a brain will see it and understand it. You
not understanding it is irrelevant. You are my pawn.

--
Alias
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Muad'Dib wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Rockinghorse Winner expressed an opinion:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ"<billy@yanaire.org> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, most here don't give a RATS ASS about that INFERIOR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu. If you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to use it go ahead but we don't need or want to hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I should report when I take a shit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just a Linux lurker on this group, and what the origninal
>>>>>>>>>>>> poster did was
>>>>>>>>>>>> just stupid, trolling and inexcusable. If I were you I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>> killfile him,
>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore him and continue to do what you've been doing:
>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss Windows7.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's folks like that that give Linux a black eye.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carry on...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I guess you guys don't really read what you comment on. =D
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a happy Vista user and I do not use *nix, at all! As far
>>>>>>>>>>> as I'm concerned,---> Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast
>>>>>>>>>>> majority of Windows home users. Period.<---
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not true, I have many clients happily using Linux of one
>>>>>>>>>> flavor or another, who, (respectfully), are basically clueless
>>>>>>>>>> users. Once set up, there isn't really much to using it.
>>>>>>>>>> Pretty much the same as Winders in some ways. Clueless people
>>>>>>>>>> are just that, "CLUELESS" it doesn't really matter WHAT OS is
>>>>>>>>>> involved I have found. Clueless is clueless, regardless. It is
>>>>>>>>>> the TEACHING, that matters. Once I have taught users on THEIR
>>>>>>>>>> CHOICE of OS, they move right along. It makes NO difference
>>>>>>>>>> which OS they choose. This bit of one OS being better than the
>>>>>>>>>> other is hogwash. It is ALL about the needs, wants, education,
>>>>>>>>>> and not solely the OS "PERIOD."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If this were a *real* Window 7 newsgroup, I would have made a
>>>>>>>>>>> better subject line in my first post, instead of pasting the
>>>>>>>>>>> article title.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This IS a "real" Win7 news group. What a crack-up..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whatever, you posted pro Ubuntu in an MS orientated group
>>>>>>>>>> basically, and are now backpedaling. ..Unnecessarily I might
>>>>>>>>>> add. BOTH OS's have good points and bad points. I happily use
>>>>>>>>>> them both for different reasons, no need to take sides.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh, and "A reason to try Ubuntu for myself one day."(?) That
>>>>>>>>>> is just too funny. Apparently you have some expertise, yet you
>>>>>>>>>> haven't downloaded a LIVE ISO of some Linux flavor or another
>>>>>>>>>> and ACTUALLY checked it out? ..Yet you have an opinion that,
>>>>>>>>>> "Ubuntu is not easy enough for the vast majority of Windows
>>>>>>>>>> home users. Period."(?) How can you possibly state that,
>>>>>>>>>> having not tried it? Gimme a break!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I tested Win7 from beta through RC, and like it a lot, in fact
>>>>>>>>>> MUCH better than the EXPENSIVE Vista Ultimate I purchased.
>>>>>>>>>> (Which recently crashed with the dreaded BLACK Screen of Death
>>>>>>>>>> - KSOD) However, I really like the Linux I have as well, so I
>>>>>>>>>> use them BOTH for my purposes, and it works out very well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> G'day
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree 100%. Why not have the best of both worlds?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You keep saying that but I've yet to come across anything that
>>>>>>>> can't be done using Windows that can be done on linux. Whereas
>>>>>>>> we all know you can't run most games on linux.
>>>>>>>> So you can do everything on Windows but not everything on linux.
>>>>>>>> So why would anyone need two computers or two OS's when one
>>>>>>>> (Windows) will do everything?
>>>>>>>> Oh and spare us the "safe surfing bullshit routine" ok.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stability.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows is stable.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! Good one, Frank.
>>>>
>>>> Mine are. But wait...you don't use Windows Vista or Windows 7 so you
>>>> don't have a clue do you!
>>>> Oops!
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Safe surfing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is practiced by the user using Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not needed in Ubuntu. You can surf anywhere you like and open any
>>>>> email you like.
>>>>>
>>>> Keep telling yourself that lie...cause only linux users believe it.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Much easier to update and updates come when ready not when it's
>>>>>>> "that time of the month".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows is set to automatically update itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is stupid when you consider that updating Windows should not
>>>>> be done while using it and with your anti virus' resident
>>>>> protection enabled.
>>>>
>>>> Its apparent you have no idea what you're talking about when it
>>>> comes to Windows Vista or Windows 7.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Much easier to install programs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could not be any easier than installing any app in Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, yes it could and no reboot necessary.
>>>>
>>>> That is simply another one of your incessant, insidious lies.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bulletproof compared to Windows malware-wise
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No it isn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it is.
>>>>
>>>> Then tell me why none of my Windows computers have ever been infected?
>>>> Well...?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many Linux programs are NOT made for Windows. Evolution, for
>>>>>>> example. Nautilus, ssh and One Cloud are others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So?
>>>>>
>>>>> It answers your ill informed question, of course.
>>>>
>>>> No it doesn't. You have yet to offer one real thing linux can do
>>>> that Windows can't. Yet we all know that linux can't play games.
>>>> Oops!
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Faster USB file transfers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>
>>>> Not the linux distros I've tried.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Faster Internet speeds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep.
>>>>
>>>> You're childish responses noted.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frank doesn't use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LIAR! Frank was using linux distros before you even knew there was
>>>>>> such a thing as linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux has come a long way since you used it ten years ago.
>>>>
>>>> I last used linux about a year ago.
>>>> Oops!
>>>>
>>>> I knew there
>>>>> was such a thing as Linux back in 1997.
>>>>
>>>> That is not what you said before. You're confusing your lies...again!
>>>> Oops!
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now try and tell us what you can do in linux that can't be done in
>>>>>> Windows.
>>>>>> Oops!
>>>>>
>>>>> Already did but it is obviously beyond your comprehension.
>>>>
>>>> You not stated one thing you can do in linux that can't be done in
>>>> Windows.
>>>> NOT ONE!!!
>>>> Try again or else accept the fact that you're full of shit and just
>>>> STFU,ok!
>>>> Oops!
>>>
>>> Yawn.
>>>
>> hehehe...can't can you!
>> Oops!
>
> Already did...

You've done nothing of the sort....as all can clearly see.

and those with a brain will see it and understand it.

....yes...understand that you've not provided one thing you can do with
linux that can't be done with Windows.
Not ONE!

You
> not understanding it is irrelevant.

You not providing any evidence is very telling.

You are my pawn.

I've checkmated your lying, ignorant, arrogant, uneducated ass so many
times its no longer even funny!
Oops!
 
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Flightless Bird
In article <hi500u$ov6$2@news.eternal-september.org>
KristleBawl <kristlebawl@some.email> wrote:

>No Spam expressed an opinion:
>> I see that he/she/it is still yapping and whining after that ass
>> whopping that he got from me.
>> I kill filed him right after I posted my last message to him, I expected
>> that he would have posted nasty flames, and he probably did.
>>
>> I have not seen him posting a single fact or rely on facts in his posts
>> which had nothing but garbage and should go to linux advocacy newsgroup
>> where retards like him live.
>>
>> I suggest that everyone kill files that troll or ignores him, once he is
>> ignored he will go away.
>
>Who are you talking about?

You got lost reading that?
I was talking about the "Alias" troll.
 
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Flightless Bird
In article <hi506s$q62$1@news.eternal-september.org>
KristleBawl <kristlebawl@some.email> wrote:

>No Spam expressed an opinion:
>> In article<hi3nh1$j0g$1@news.eternal-september.org>
>> KristleBawl<kristlebawl@some.email> wrote:
>>
>>> If this were a *real* Window 7 newsgroup, I would have made a better
>>> subject line in my first post, instead of pasting the article title.
>>
>> Even worse excuse.
>>
>> This news group is alt therefore I can do whatever I want, this
>> newsgroup is not a real Windows 7 newsgroup, this newsgroup is not
>> properly named, blah blah blah.
>
>Facts are facts. The entire alt.* hierarchy was invented because no one
>liked the idea that free.* really meant freedom of speech. Obviously you
>missed the sarcasm in my initial post, too.

Speaking of facts, the newsgroup SUBJECT is there for some reason...
Freedom of speech != chaos and being inconsiderate.
 
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Flightless Bird
In article <hi50dd$qtn$1@news.eternal-september.org>
KristleBawl <kristlebawl@some.email> wrote:

>Doesn't anyone actually *read* anymore?

Yourself included?
You seem to have trouble reading the topic/subject of this newsgroup.
 
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Flightless Bird
In article <4b461487@news.x-privat.org>
Frank <fb@vst.cmm> wrote:


>> Much easier to update and updates come when ready not when it's "that
>> time of the month".
>
>Windows is set to automatically update itself.

I don't know what is hard to click the "Check for updates now" or even
going to updates.microsoft.com.
Alias is showing how little he knows about computers again.



>> Much easier to install programs
>
>Could not be any easier than installing any app in Windows.

LOL!
Yeah, Alias is showing that he can't double click the installer exe
file.
Too difficult. ;-)



>> Bulletproof compared to Windows malware-wise
>>
>No it isn't.
>



>> Many Linux programs are NOT made for Windows. Evolution, for example.
>> Nautilus, ssh and One Cloud are others.
>
>So?

Someone should tell the Alias troll that ssh is a protocol and not a
program, ssh serves and clients EXIST for windows.

Also evolution is a cheap and actually bad attempt to produce software
like Outlook.

There is not a single software on Linux desktop that is either available
on Windows or have a superior Windows counterpart.

>> Faster USB file transfers
>
>Nope!

ROFL.
How can a protocol operate at different speeds based on the OS?
This Alias troll is amusing, I almost regret kill filing it.

>> Faster Internet speeds
>
>Nope!

Same question applies here.

Hey Alias troll, post your research and statistics from well recognized
non-biased sites or references that shows Linux has faster USB file
transfers and "Faster Internet speeds" proven by lab tests.

Go ahead and do it, instead of continuing to fill this newsgroup with
lies and un proven crap.

And to the others, please consider not responding to him/it, the more he
gets replies to more he continues to post his outrageous lies and
trolling.
 
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