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Trouble getting back on line after router is shut off....

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by J Tinsby, Jun 13, 2010.

  1. J Tinsby

    J Tinsby Flightless Bird

    Doesn't XP flush the IP address when it's shut off so it's ready for a
    new one when you restart it? The reason I ask is:

    I have a Linksys WRTP54G wireless router that has 2 phone ports for
    use with the Vonage phone company.

    When we have electrical strorms I unplug everything including my cable
    connection to my modem, the router and of course the 'puter. After the
    storm it can take me up to 45 minutes to get an internet connection
    again.

    The setup is a Surfboard cable modem that feeds the Linksys then to
    one of my motherboard's 2 ethernet connectors. When powering up after
    a storm I power them in that order. But I continually get the message
    ballon that says " A network cable has been unplugged." The ethernet
    connection light on the router is either blinking or isn't on at all.
    When I have a proper connection it's on solidly all the time until I
    shut off the computer then it goes dark. In spite of all this I do get
    a useable phone connection as the phone light on the Linksys comes on.

    If I elminate the router, of course losing my Vonage, and plug the
    computer in directly to the modem and power up, I get a connection
    immediately.

    The only way I could get THIS connection after 5 reboots of everything
    was to change to the other ethernet port on my MB.

    I don't think it should take all this fooling around to get an IP
    address so I can get a connection.

    I have tried the command 'IPCONFIG/RELEASE."

    Once I have a good connection to the 'net with the above setup, I can
    shut the machine off entirely, or let it sleep or hibernate and once
    it starts to boot I get a solid ethernet light on the router.
    Unplugging everything sends it into a frenzy!

    I am using XP pro SP3 with all updates, the ISP is Comcast. What is
    wrong or what am I doing wrong?

    Vonage, although they try to help haven't been able to fix the
    trouble, it may be beyond their purvie, but they do try.

    I hope this topic is appropriate for this forum, if note please move
    it to where it should have been posted.

    Cheers,

    J T
     
  2. Doug W.

    Doug W. Flightless Bird

    My only experience was with my tower to tower high speed
    connection. I had to be hospitalized and unplugged my computer
    from the wall. Two weeks later found my internet connection
    down. The ISP said that it polls the connection periodically and
    if there is no answering poll it shuts off the service. They say
    to leave the wall plug and router alone and shut off the
    computer next time that I have to leave it alone for any
    extended time.

    I had to phone the ISP and they restored my service without
    sending a service man out athough sometimes that is necessary.

    Hope that helps somewhat as it does explain at least part of the
    procedure involved.
    ==

    "J Tinsby" <none@present.com> wrote in message
    news:cefb16pe9oa9356q0d5mtmejlnbs6geqdf@4ax.com...
    > Doesn't XP flush the IP address when it's shut off so it's
    > ready for a
    > new one when you restart it? The reason I ask is:
    >
    > I have a Linksys WRTP54G wireless router that has 2 phone
    > ports for
    > use with the Vonage phone company.
    >
    > When we have electrical strorms I unplug everything including
    > my cable
    > connection to my modem, the router and of course the 'puter.
    > After the
    > storm it can take me up to 45 minutes to get an internet
    > connection
    > again.
    >
    > The setup is a Surfboard cable modem that feeds the Linksys
    > then to
    > one of my motherboard's 2 ethernet connectors. When powering
    > up after
    > a storm I power them in that order. But I continually get the
    > message
    > ballon that says " A network cable has been unplugged." The
    > ethernet
    > connection light on the router is either blinking or isn't on
    > at all.
    > When I have a proper connection it's on solidly all the time
    > until I
    > shut off the computer then it goes dark. In spite of all this
    > I do get
    > a useable phone connection as the phone light on the Linksys
    > comes on.
    >
    > If I elminate the router, of course losing my Vonage, and plug
    > the
    > computer in directly to the modem and power up, I get a
    > connection
    > immediately.
    >
    > The only way I could get THIS connection after 5 reboots of
    > everything
    > was to change to the other ethernet port on my MB.
    >
    > I don't think it should take all this fooling around to get an
    > IP
    > address so I can get a connection.
    >
    > I have tried the command 'IPCONFIG/RELEASE."
    >
    > Once I have a good connection to the 'net with the above
    > setup, I can
    > shut the machine off entirely, or let it sleep or hibernate
    > and once
    > it starts to boot I get a solid ethernet light on the router.
    > Unplugging everything sends it into a frenzy!
    >
    > I am using XP pro SP3 with all updates, the ISP is Comcast.
    > What is
    > wrong or what am I doing wrong?
    >
    > Vonage, although they try to help haven't been able to fix the
    > trouble, it may be beyond their purvie, but they do try.
    >
    > I hope this topic is appropriate for this forum, if note
    > please move
    > it to where it should have been posted.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > J T
    >
    >
     
  3. Mike S

    Mike S Flightless Bird

    On 6/13/2010 10:50 PM, J Tinsby wrote:
    >
    > Doesn't XP flush the IP address when it's shut off so it's ready for a
    > new one when you restart it? The reason I ask is:
    >
    > I have a Linksys WRTP54G wireless router that has 2 phone ports for
    > use with the Vonage phone company.
    >
    > When we have electrical strorms I unplug everything including my cable
    > connection to my modem, the router and of course the 'puter. After the
    > storm it can take me up to 45 minutes to get an internet connection
    > again.
    >
    > The setup is a Surfboard cable modem that feeds the Linksys then to
    > one of my motherboard's 2 ethernet connectors. When powering up after
    > a storm I power them in that order. But I continually get the message
    > ballon that says " A network cable has been unplugged." The ethernet
    > connection light on the router is either blinking or isn't on at all.
    > When I have a proper connection it's on solidly all the time until I
    > shut off the computer then it goes dark. In spite of all this I do get
    > a useable phone connection as the phone light on the Linksys comes on.
    >
    > If I elminate the router, of course losing my Vonage, and plug the
    > computer in directly to the modem and power up, I get a connection
    > immediately.
    >
    > The only way I could get THIS connection after 5 reboots of everything
    > was to change to the other ethernet port on my MB.
    >
    > I don't think it should take all this fooling around to get an IP
    > address so I can get a connection.
    >
    > I have tried the command 'IPCONFIG/RELEASE."
    > Once I have a good connection to the 'net with the above setup, I can
    > shut the machine off entirely, or let it sleep or hibernate and once
    > it starts to boot I get a solid ethernet light on the router.
    > Unplugging everything sends it into a frenzy!
    > I am using XP pro SP3 with all updates, the ISP is Comcast. What is
    > wrong or what am I doing wrong?
    > Vonage, although they try to help haven't been able to fix the
    > trouble, it may be beyond their purvie, but they do try.
    > I hope this topic is appropriate for this forum, if note please move
    > it to where it should have been posted.
    > Cheers,
    > J T


    I have an XP Pro box that I run into a router, which itself is connected
    to another router. I hibernate my machine instead of turning it off, and
    when I boot up it often has problems connecting, so I made a small batch
    file that I run when I restart it after a hibernate. Maybe running this
    batch file will help you. This is just a patch, I'm not sure what the
    source of your connection problem is, but if this works it's an easy fix.

    Just save this as a filename.bat file on your desktop and double-click
    it to run it after when you have turned everything on but still have a
    blinking ethernet light on the router. Remove the first line to change
    to a default color scheme.

    color 4f
    cd \
    cls
    rem ================================
    rem Releasing IP Configuration
    rem ================================
    rem
    ipconfig /release
    cls
    rem ================================
    rem Renewing IP Configuration
    rem ================================
    ipconfig /renew
    cls
    echo ================================
    echo Done!!
    echo ================================

    Mike
     
  4. J Tinsby

    J Tinsby Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:53:23 -0700, Mike S <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    >I have an XP Pro box that I run into a router, which itself is connected
    >to another router. I hibernate my machine instead of turning it off, and
    >when I boot up it often has problems connecting, so I made a small batch
    >file that I run when I restart it after a hibernate. Maybe running this
    >batch file will help you. This is just a patch, I'm not sure what the
    >source of your connection problem is, but if this works it's an easy fix.
    >
    >Just save this as a filename.bat file on your desktop and double-click
    >it to run it after when you have turned everything on but still have a
    >blinking ethernet light on the router. Remove the first line to change
    >to a default color scheme.
    >
    >color 4f
    >cd \
    >cls
    >rem ================================
    >rem Releasing IP Configuration
    >rem ================================
    >rem
    >ipconfig /release
    >cls
    >rem ================================
    >rem Renewing IP Configuration
    >rem ================================
    >ipconfig /renew
    >cls
    >echo ================================
    >echo Done!!
    >echo ================================
    >
    >Mike



    Mike,

    Thanks for the batch file I will try it! The odd thing is I never used
    to have this trouble.

    Regards,

    J T
     
  5. J Tinsby

    J Tinsby Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:27:14 -0600, "Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote:

    >My only experience was with my tower to tower high speed
    >connection. I had to be hospitalized and unplugged my computer
    >from the wall. Two weeks later found my internet connection
    >down. The ISP said that it polls the connection periodically and
    >if there is no answering poll it shuts off the service. They say
    >to leave the wall plug and router alone and shut off the
    >computer next time that I have to leave it alone for any
    >extended time.
    >
    >I had to phone the ISP and they restored my service without
    >sending a service man out athough sometimes that is necessary.
    >
    >Hope that helps somewhat as it does explain at least part of the
    >procedure involved.
    >==
    >


    Hi Doug,

    It's a possiblilty I guess that the ISP is shutting off the
    connection. But 2 years back I had a huge line surge during a storm
    that took $1k of stuff including parts in the computer. This is a new
    one I built so there's no worry about a damaged component.

    I have to unplug everything here when we get a storm, to leave the
    router plugged in would be deadly, they don't make this brand wireless
    router anymore for use with Vonage.

    Plus when I connect the computer direclty to the modem after it's been
    shut down for many hours, I can get a connection immediately. So there
    must be a connection available for it to lock onto.

    Thank you for your reply!

    J T
     
  6. HeyBub

    HeyBub Flightless Bird

    J Tinsby wrote:
    > Doesn't XP flush the IP address when it's shut off so it's ready for a
    > new one when you restart it? The reason I ask is:
    >
    > I have a Linksys WRTP54G wireless router that has 2 phone ports for
    > use with the Vonage phone company.
    >
    > When we have electrical strorms I unplug everything including my cable
    > connection to my modem, the router and of course the 'puter. After the
    > storm it can take me up to 45 minutes to get an internet connection
    > again.
    >
    > The setup is a Surfboard cable modem that feeds the Linksys then to
    > one of my motherboard's 2 ethernet connectors. When powering up after
    > a storm I power them in that order. But I continually get the message
    > ballon that says " A network cable has been unplugged." The ethernet
    > connection light on the router is either blinking or isn't on at all.
    > When I have a proper connection it's on solidly all the time until I
    > shut off the computer then it goes dark. In spite of all this I do get
    > a useable phone connection as the phone light on the Linksys comes on.
    >
    > If I elminate the router, of course losing my Vonage, and plug the
    > computer in directly to the modem and power up, I get a connection
    > immediately.
    >
    > The only way I could get THIS connection after 5 reboots of everything
    > was to change to the other ethernet port on my MB.
    >
    > I don't think it should take all this fooling around to get an IP
    > address so I can get a connection.
    >
    > I have tried the command 'IPCONFIG/RELEASE."
    >
    > Once I have a good connection to the 'net with the above setup, I can
    > shut the machine off entirely, or let it sleep or hibernate and once
    > it starts to boot I get a solid ethernet light on the router.
    > Unplugging everything sends it into a frenzy!
    >
    > I am using XP pro SP3 with all updates, the ISP is Comcast. What is
    > wrong or what am I doing wrong?
    >
    > Vonage, although they try to help haven't been able to fix the
    > trouble, it may be beyond their purvie, but they do try.
    >
    > I hope this topic is appropriate for this forum, if note please move
    > it to where it should have been posted.
    >


    At a command prompt, type:

    ipconfig /release

    followed by:

    ipconfig /renew

    See if that helps.

    Look under your couch cushions for spare change. Finding same, buy a surge
    protector.
     
  7. Jordan

    Jordan Flightless Bird

    I had that router and it sucked with Gigabit ports. Even when I forced the
    NIC to 100 MB it still had issues.



    "J Tinsby" <none@present.com> wrote in message
    news:q25c16l8o1dui8i9oei47lsoftbv4u3j4c@4ax.com...
    > On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:53:23 -0700, Mike S <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>I have an XP Pro box that I run into a router, which itself is connected
    >>to another router. I hibernate my machine instead of turning it off, and
    >>when I boot up it often has problems connecting, so I made a small batch
    >>file that I run when I restart it after a hibernate. Maybe running this
    >>batch file will help you. This is just a patch, I'm not sure what the
    >>source of your connection problem is, but if this works it's an easy fix.
    >>
    >>Just save this as a filename.bat file on your desktop and double-click
    >>it to run it after when you have turned everything on but still have a
    >>blinking ethernet light on the router. Remove the first line to change
    >>to a default color scheme.
    >>
    >>color 4f
    >>cd \
    >>cls
    >>rem ================================
    >>rem Releasing IP Configuration
    >>rem ================================
    >>rem
    >>ipconfig /release
    >>cls
    >>rem ================================
    >>rem Renewing IP Configuration
    >>rem ================================
    >>ipconfig /renew
    >>cls
    >>echo ================================
    >>echo Done!!
    >>echo ================================
    >>
    >>Mike

    >
    >
    > Mike,
    >
    > Thanks for the batch file I will try it! The odd thing is I never used
    > to have this trouble.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > J T
    >
     

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