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Thunderbird is an energy waster

R

Roland Mösl

Flightless Bird
By changing from my old Windows XP notebook
to my new Windows 7 64 Bit notebook,
I was forced to change from Outlock Express
to Thunderbird.

The *!# at Microsoft really managed it,
that I was not able to import my email
from the old system.

ABC-Outlook my usual backup program
for outlock express crashed, all other attempts
failed.

So I am now with Thunderbird and wonder about
the high CPU usage.

My new notebook has a Core 2 Duo
and Thunderbird shows always with 10 to 45%
CPU usage.

What does Thunderbird with all this CPU power
while idling?
 
J

John Doue

Flightless Bird
On 8/24/2010 9:50 AM, Roland Mösl wrote:
> By changing from my old Windows XP notebook
> to my new Windows 7 64 Bit notebook,
> I was forced to change from Outlock Express
> to Thunderbird.
>
> The *!# at Microsoft really managed it,
> that I was not able to import my email
> from the old system.
>
> ABC-Outlook my usual backup program
> for outlock express crashed, all other attempts
> failed.
>
> So I am now with Thunderbird and wonder about
> the high CPU usage.
>
> My new notebook has a Core 2 Duo
> and Thunderbird shows always with 10 to 45%
> CPU usage.
>
> What does Thunderbird with all this CPU power
> while idling?
>


This is not the perfect place to post about TB and I suggest you use
Mozilla.Support.Thunderbird.

Anyway, I will try to help. First, which version did you install?
Personally, I use 3.0.6 which I prefer to more recent ones.

Then, have you turned off the indexer? I guess most people have disabled
it, it does have an important impact on performance. Open Tools,
Options, Advanced, General and make sure Enable Global Search and
Indexer is not checked.

Does this solve the problem?
--
John Doue
 
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Roland Mösl

Flightless Bird
On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:
> On 8/24/2010 9:50 AM, Roland Mösl wrote:
>> By changing from my old Windows XP notebook
>> to my new Windows 7 64 Bit notebook,
>> I was forced to change from Outlock Express
>> to Thunderbird.
>>
>> The *!# at Microsoft really managed it,
>> that I was not able to import my email
>> from the old system.
>>
>> ABC-Outlook my usual backup program
>> for outlock express crashed, all other attempts
>> failed.
>>
>> So I am now with Thunderbird and wonder about
>> the high CPU usage.
>>
>> My new notebook has a Core 2 Duo
>> and Thunderbird shows always with 10 to 45%
>> CPU usage.
>>
>> What does Thunderbird with all this CPU power
>> while idling?
>>

>
> This is not the perfect place to post about TB and I suggest you use
> Mozilla.Support.Thunderbird.
>
> Anyway, I will try to help. First, which version did you install?
> Personally, I use 3.0.6 which I prefer to more recent ones.
>
> Then, have you turned off the indexer? I guess most people have disabled
> it, it does have an important impact on performance. Open Tools,
> Options, Advanced, General and make sure Enable Global Search and
> Indexer is not checked.
>
> Does this solve the problem?


Thanks!

I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
This solves a big problem for me, since there is
no electric connection available in the airplane.

My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
which would have been reduced by the indexer
to maybe only 8 hours.
 
J

John Doue

Flightless Bird
On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:

snip

> Thanks!
>
> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
> no electric connection available in the airplane.
>
> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
> which would have been reduced by the indexer
> to maybe only 8 hours.
>
>

You are welcome!

--
John Doue
 
M

~misfit~

Flightless Bird
Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
> On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
>> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:

> snip
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
>> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
>> no electric connection available in the airplane.
>>
>> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
>> which would have been reduced by the indexer
>> to maybe only 8 hours.
>>
>>

> You are welcome!


Thanks from me too. I don't have problems with CPU usage and T'bird but I
turned it off anyway as T'bird's open all of the time my PC's on. :)
--
Shaun.

"I'm in a half-way house on a one-way street and I'm a quarter past
left-alive"
 
B

BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:i520d7$2ej$1@news.eternal-september.org,
~misfit~ typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:50:11 +1200:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
>> On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
>>> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:

>> snip
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
>>> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
>>> no electric connection available in the airplane.
>>>
>>> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
>>> which would have been reduced by the indexer
>>> to maybe only 8 hours.
>>>
>>>

>> You are welcome!

>
> Thanks from me too. I don't have problems with CPU usage and T'bird
> but I turned it off anyway as T'bird's open all of the time my PC's
> on. :)


Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to your
posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except Microsoft has
this feature. Why I have no idea? Anybody who posts on newsgroups would
want to see any replies to their posts, this is a no brainier! Yes
Thunderbird and others are just too stupid to add this most needed
feature. Go figure!

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2
 
R

Roland Mösl

Flightless Bird
On 2010-08-25 05:45, BillW50 wrote:
> In news:i520d7$2ej$1@news.eternal-september.org,
> ~misfit~ typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:50:11 +1200:
>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
>>> On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
>>>> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:
>>> snip
>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
>>>> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
>>>> no electric connection available in the airplane.
>>>>
>>>> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
>>>> which would have been reduced by the indexer
>>>> to maybe only 8 hours.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You are welcome!

>>
>> Thanks from me too. I don't have problems with CPU usage and T'bird
>> but I turned it off anyway as T'bird's open all of the time my PC's
>> on. :)

>
> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to your
> posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except Microsoft has
> this feature. Why I have no idea? Anybody who posts on newsgroups would
> want to see any replies to their posts, this is a no brainier! Yes
> Thunderbird and others are just too stupid to add this most needed
> feature. Go figure!


This would have been my next question for the thunderbird newsgroup

BTW,

I had over 10 GB mails, I switched of indexing
and switched it on in the night.

In the night, the index data base increased from 1,9 to 2,6 GB.

Now indexing seems to be finished, I can let it turned on
and normal CPU usage
 
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Lars

Flightless Bird
Previously, on Usenet "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
>your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
>Microsoft has this feature.


Forte's Agent has that too.

I have used Agent for so long now that I am not sure if it is this way
by default or if I have set it up so. Anyway, every thread to which I
have posted anything becomes a 'watch'-thread.


Lars
Stockholm
 
L

Linea Recta

Flightless Bird
"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> schreef in bericht
news:i523k3$f45$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> In news:i520d7$2ej$1@news.eternal-september.org,
> ~misfit~ typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:50:11 +1200:
>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
>>> On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
>>>> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:
>>> snip
>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
>>>> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
>>>> no electric connection available in the airplane.
>>>>
>>>> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
>>>> which would have been reduced by the indexer
>>>> to maybe only 8 hours.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You are welcome!

>>
>> Thanks from me too. I don't have problems with CPU usage and T'bird
>> but I turned it off anyway as T'bird's open all of the time my PC's
>> on. :)

>
> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to your
> posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except Microsoft has this
> feature. Why I have no idea?



I remember this feature was added to OE long time ago, being one of my
requests :))

Another option I desired: one special folder to which I get redirected all
replies to my posts from any group to one place. So you never mis any reply,
even if you have configured many groups. This is still not implemented as
far as I know...


--
regards,

|\ /|
| \/ |@rk
\../
\/os
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:7pk976hgmo9e3s2qln2os68o95gj26m7tb@4ax.com,
Lars typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:54 +0200:
> Previously, on Usenet "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
>> your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
>> Microsoft has this feature.

>
> Forte's Agent has that too.
>
> I have used Agent for so long now that I am not sure if it is this way
> by default or if I have set it up so. Anyway, every thread to which I
> have posted anything becomes a 'watch'-thread.


I don't remember that when I was using Forte's Agent. Maybe it wasn't
there way back then. This was just before Forte's Agent supported more
than one email account. And OE6 doesn't automatically sets them as
watched. Although a simple rule can do that too. So what is involved
switching between show all and show only watched?

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:4c750e64$0$22937$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl,
Linea Recta typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:36:52 +0200:
> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> schreef in bericht
> news:i523k3$f45$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> In news:i520d7$2ej$1@news.eternal-september.org,
>> ~misfit~ typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:50:11 +1200:
>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
>>>> On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
>>>>> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
>>>>> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
>>>>> no electric connection available in the airplane.
>>>>>
>>>>> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
>>>>> which would have been reduced by the indexer
>>>>> to maybe only 8 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You are welcome!
>>>
>>> Thanks from me too. I don't have problems with CPU usage and T'bird
>>> but I turned it off anyway as T'bird's open all of the time my PC's
>>> on. :)

>>
>> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to your
>> posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except Microsoft
>> has this feature. Why I have no idea?

>
> I remember this feature was added to OE long time ago, being one of my
> requests :))


It is a must have feature as far as I am concern. ;-)

> Another option I desired: one special folder to which I get
> redirected all replies to my posts from any group to one place. So
> you never mis any reply, even if you have configured many groups.
> This is still not implemented as far as I know...


I just checked and I thought it was possible. It is, but just for email
by making a rule. Although newsgroup rules doesn't allow moving. :-(

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2
 
A

AJL

Flightless Bird
"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>In news:7pk976hgmo9e3s2qln2os68o95gj26m7tb@4ax.com,
>Lars typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:54 +0200:
>> Previously, on Usenet "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>>> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
>>> your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
>>> Microsoft has this feature.

>>
>> Forte's Agent has that too.
>>
>> I have used Agent for so long now that I am not sure if it is this way
>> by default or if I have set it up so. Anyway, every thread to which I
>> have posted anything becomes a 'watch'-thread.

>
>I don't remember that when I was using Forte's Agent. Maybe it wasn't
>there way back then.


I don't see anything like that on this old copy of Agent but it's a
lot older than Lars. Lars, if you remember how you set it up let me
know and I'll check around some more. Heck I paid US$29 for this thing
and I'm still trying to get my moneys worth... ;)

(Yea I know I could have gotten free upgrades way back when, and that
later it all went free anyway, but heck I'm just software
sentimentalist...)

>This was just before Forte's Agent supported more
>than one email account. And OE6 doesn't automatically sets them as
>watched. Although a simple rule can do that too. So what is involved
>switching between show all and show only watched?
 
L

Linea Recta

Flightless Bird
"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> schreef in bericht
news:i547mv$d24$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> In news:4c750e64$0$22937$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl,
> Linea Recta typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:36:52 +0200:
>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> schreef in bericht
>> news:i523k3$f45$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> In news:i520d7$2ej$1@news.eternal-september.org,
>>> ~misfit~ typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:50:11 +1200:
>>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
>>>>> On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
>>>>>> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:
>>>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
>>>>>> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
>>>>>> no electric connection available in the airplane.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
>>>>>> which would have been reduced by the indexer
>>>>>> to maybe only 8 hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> You are welcome!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks from me too. I don't have problems with CPU usage and T'bird
>>>> but I turned it off anyway as T'bird's open all of the time my PC's
>>>> on. :)
>>>
>>> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to your
>>> posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except Microsoft
>>> has this feature. Why I have no idea?

>>
>> I remember this feature was added to OE long time ago, being one of my
>> requests :))

>
> It is a must have feature as far as I am concern. ;-)



Of course it is.


>
>> Another option I desired: one special folder to which I get
>> redirected all replies to my posts from any group to one place. So
>> you never mis any reply, even if you have configured many groups.
>> This is still not implemented as far as I know...

>
> I just checked and I thought it was possible. It is, but just for email by
> making a rule. Although newsgroup rules doesn't allow moving. :-(



I've been trying that, also long time ago, but then discovered I was
expecting far too much no-nonsense intelligence and then I quit exploring
these "rules" options immediately. And as it seems, they still haven't
invented the wheel...
And there's no need for moving. Copying would do the job, but there is no
way. Besides, I can't see the logics of treating news replies so different
to e-mail replies.
BTW I've only been using OE in Windows XP and Windows Mail under Vista. And
Windows Mail seems to be a buggy version of OE. For instance, I have been
making a rule for colour-marking replies to my messages and even that only
works incidently! Making software seems less straight foreward than for
instance... let's say poetry!



--
regards,

|\ /|
| \/ |@rk
\../
\/os
 
T

Tom Cole

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:41:40 -0700, AJL <4239@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

>"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>>In news:7pk976hgmo9e3s2qln2os68o95gj26m7tb@4ax.com,
>>Lars typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:54 +0200:
>>> Previously, on Usenet "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
>>>> your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
>>>> Microsoft has this feature.
>>>
>>> Forte's Agent has that too.
>>>
>>> I have used Agent for so long now that I am not sure if it is this way
>>> by default or if I have set it up so. Anyway, every thread to which I
>>> have posted anything becomes a 'watch'-thread.

>>
>>I don't remember that when I was using Forte's Agent. Maybe it wasn't
>>there way back then.

>
>I don't see anything like that on this old copy of Agent but it's a
>lot older than Lars. Lars, if you remember how you set it up let me
>know and I'll check around some more. Heck I paid US$29 for this thing
>and I'm still trying to get my moneys worth... ;)
>

(Good value, wasn't it.) To achieve this, select one of your replies
in a newsgroup, press ctrl+w to set a watch filter, adjust any
parameters (you may want to make it global) and press OK. Then to see
these watched threads use the View menu and select Show Watched
Threads.
 
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AJL

Flightless Bird
Tom Cole <tacoleNOSPAM@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:41:40 -0700, AJL <4239@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>
>>"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>>>In news:7pk976hgmo9e3s2qln2os68o95gj26m7tb@4ax.com,
>>>Lars typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:54 +0200:
>>>> Previously, on Usenet "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
>>>>> your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
>>>>> Microsoft has this feature.
>>>>
>>>> Forte's Agent has that too.
>>>>
>>>> I have used Agent for so long now that I am not sure if it is this way
>>>> by default or if I have set it up so. Anyway, every thread to which I
>>>> have posted anything becomes a 'watch'-thread.
>>>
>>>I don't remember that when I was using Forte's Agent. Maybe it wasn't
>>>there way back then.

>>
>>I don't see anything like that on this old copy of Agent but it's a
>>lot older than Lars. Lars, if you remember how you set it up let me
>>know and I'll check around some more. Heck I paid US$29 for this thing
>>and I'm still trying to get my moneys worth... ;)
>>

>(Good value, wasn't it.) To achieve this, select one of your replies
>in a newsgroup, press ctrl+w to set a watch filter, adjust any
>parameters (you may want to make it global) and press OK. Then to see
>these watched threads use the View menu and select Show Watched
>Threads.


Yes, I have watch threads. But how do you make Agent globally find any
answers to your posts as Bill said OE6 does? He wrote:

"Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
Microsoft has this feature."

Lars claimed his Version of Agent has this feature. He wrote:

"Forte's Agent has that too."

I don't think my Agent version does, and I'm beginning to doubt that
Lars version does either...

Am I misunderstanding what Bill's saying about OE6?
 
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Tom Cole

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:40:27 -0700, AJL <4239@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

>Tom Cole <tacoleNOSPAM@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:41:40 -0700, AJL <4239@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In news:7pk976hgmo9e3s2qln2os68o95gj26m7tb@4ax.com,
>>>>Lars typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:54 +0200:
>>>>> Previously, on Usenet "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
>>>>>> your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
>>>>>> Microsoft has this feature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Forte's Agent has that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have used Agent for so long now that I am not sure if it is this way
>>>>> by default or if I have set it up so. Anyway, every thread to which I
>>>>> have posted anything becomes a 'watch'-thread.
>>>>
>>>>I don't remember that when I was using Forte's Agent. Maybe it wasn't
>>>>there way back then.
>>>
>>>I don't see anything like that on this old copy of Agent but it's a
>>>lot older than Lars. Lars, if you remember how you set it up let me
>>>know and I'll check around some more. Heck I paid US$29 for this thing
>>>and I'm still trying to get my moneys worth... ;)
>>>

>>(Good value, wasn't it.) To achieve this, select one of your replies
>>in a newsgroup, press ctrl+w to set a watch filter, adjust any
>>parameters (you may want to make it global) and press OK. Then to see
>>these watched threads use the View menu and select Show Watched
>>Threads.

>
>Yes, I have watch threads. But how do you make Agent globally find any
>answers to your posts as Bill said OE6 does? He wrote:
>
>"Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
>your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
>Microsoft has this feature."
>
>Lars claimed his Version of Agent has this feature. He wrote:
>
>"Forte's Agent has that too."
>
>I don't think my Agent version does, and I'm beginning to doubt that
>Lars version does either...
>
>Am I misunderstanding what Bill's saying about OE6?


No, Agent can't do what Bill said literally (ctrl-h, etc). Lars was
showing you how you could achieve something similar in Agent. The View
menu item would be 'Show watched and unread'. You could then use the
Agent navigation keys (or mouse) to view the threads in sequence. You
would see new replies in those threads. I don't know how similar this
is to OE as I haven't used it.
 
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AJL

Flightless Bird
Tom Cole <tacoleNOSPAM@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:

>No, Agent can't do what Bill said literally (ctrl-h, etc). Lars was
>showing you how you could achieve something similar in Agent. The View
>menu item would be 'Show watched and unread'. You could then use the
>Agent navigation keys (or mouse) to view the threads in sequence. You
>would see new replies in those threads. I don't know how similar this
>is to OE as I haven't used it.


OK thanks. I don't follow that many Usenet text groups anymore so that
capability wouldn't be that big of an advantage to me. But I was
curious since after all this time using Agent I wondered if there was
actually something new I hadn't found yet... ;)

BTW most of the web forums I follow will email me if somebody answers
a post of mine. So I guess that's sort of the same idea.
 
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Roland Mösl

Flightless Bird
Re: Thunderbird high energy usage only during indexing

On 2010-08-24 08:50, Roland Mösl wrote:
> By changing from my old Windows XP notebook
> to my new Windows 7 64 Bit notebook,
> I was forced to change from Outlock Express
> to Thunderbird.
>
> The *!# at Microsoft really managed it,
> that I was not able to import my email
> from the old system.
>
> ABC-Outlook my usual backup program
> for outlock express crashed, all other attempts
> failed.
>
> So I am now with Thunderbird and wonder about
> the high CPU usage.
>
> My new notebook has a Core 2 Duo
> and Thunderbird shows always with 10 to 45%
> CPU usage.
>
> What does Thunderbird with all this CPU power
> while idling?


Thunderbird indexed my 10 GB imported emails.
The index file is now 2,6 GB long.

After this, no unusual CPU usage


--
Roland Mösl - PEGE - http://www.pege.org
Planetary Engineering Group Earth
 
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Lars

Flightless Bird
Previously, on Usenet AJL <4239@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

>Yes, I have watch threads. But how do you make Agent globally find any
>answers to your posts as Bill said OE6 does? He wrote:
>
>"Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
>your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
>Microsoft has this feature."
>
>Lars claimed his Version of Agent has this feature. He wrote:
>
>"Forte's Agent has that too."


I make a filter on my own usenet-id "Lars <Lars@fake.com>", and set
that filter to "Watch thread", and "global scope". With that Agent
will always retrieve the bodies for all messages in such threads.

When I fire up Agent I do a command, Ctrl+E wich will make it log in
to my three different mail servers and retrieve al mails.

Then I do a Alt+A+K wich will make Agent log in to my three different
news servers and retrieve all headers for the groups I subscribe to in
this presently active desk. (I can have different desks.)

Then I do Alt+G wich will retrieve all bodies to marked messages.

By then I am done online for the moment, and in modem days I would log
off from the Net.

Then by hitting the space bar, again and again, nothing but the space
bar, I read through all my mails and all such usenet posts for wich I
have the body. I may reply to some, or not.

Then I hit the Tab key a couple of times and the home key until focus
is at the top of all Usenet posts.
Then I hit the N key to take me to the first unread message, on that I
can either M it, "Mark for retrieval", or W it for "Watch thread". I
go through all new messages, which presently only are headers, until
at the bottom. All with the N key.

Then I Tab to the pane with all Usenet groups, and do Ctrl+A to mark
all, then I do Shift+F10+R for "Mark folders read". No there are no
longer any more "new" posts, or headers rather.

When there are new posts or threads I want to read right away I go
back to "Alt+G wich will retrieve all bodies to marked messages." And
space bar to read the bodies.

I read abt 10 mails and 25-40 Usenet bodies, and scan through 200
headers in about fifteen minutes, and all without touching the mouse.
Presently I susbscribe to 9 Usenet groups, several of which have
little traffic. In winter I follow some 20 groups.

Agent is really very good! Unbelivable value for 26$.


Lars
Stockholm
 
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Lars

Flightless Bird
Previously, on Usenet Lars <Lars@fake.com> wrote:

>>Lars claimed his Version of Agent has this feature. He wrote:
>>
>>"Forte's Agent has that too."

>
>I read abt 10 mails and 25-40 Usenet bodies, and scan through 200
>headers in about fifteen minutes,


What I really meant to say with that long post is that in effect I get
the same result as what Bill mentions. It is not exactly "show only
threads that I have posted too", but with the way I use Agent I can
quickly get to read just those threads.

Lars
Stockholm
 
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