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Thunderbird is an energy waster

Discussion in 'Notebooks' started by Roland Mösl, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. Roland Mösl

    Roland Mösl Flightless Bird

    By changing from my old Windows XP notebook
    to my new Windows 7 64 Bit notebook,
    I was forced to change from Outlock Express
    to Thunderbird.

    The *!# at Microsoft really managed it,
    that I was not able to import my email
    from the old system.

    ABC-Outlook my usual backup program
    for outlock express crashed, all other attempts
    failed.

    So I am now with Thunderbird and wonder about
    the high CPU usage.

    My new notebook has a Core 2 Duo
    and Thunderbird shows always with 10 to 45%
    CPU usage.

    What does Thunderbird with all this CPU power
    while idling?
     
  2. John Doue

    John Doue Flightless Bird

    On 8/24/2010 9:50 AM, Roland Mösl wrote:
    > By changing from my old Windows XP notebook
    > to my new Windows 7 64 Bit notebook,
    > I was forced to change from Outlock Express
    > to Thunderbird.
    >
    > The *!# at Microsoft really managed it,
    > that I was not able to import my email
    > from the old system.
    >
    > ABC-Outlook my usual backup program
    > for outlock express crashed, all other attempts
    > failed.
    >
    > So I am now with Thunderbird and wonder about
    > the high CPU usage.
    >
    > My new notebook has a Core 2 Duo
    > and Thunderbird shows always with 10 to 45%
    > CPU usage.
    >
    > What does Thunderbird with all this CPU power
    > while idling?
    >


    This is not the perfect place to post about TB and I suggest you use
    Mozilla.Support.Thunderbird.

    Anyway, I will try to help. First, which version did you install?
    Personally, I use 3.0.6 which I prefer to more recent ones.

    Then, have you turned off the indexer? I guess most people have disabled
    it, it does have an important impact on performance. Open Tools,
    Options, Advanced, General and make sure Enable Global Search and
    Indexer is not checked.

    Does this solve the problem?
    --
    John Doue
     
  3. Roland Mösl

    Roland Mösl Flightless Bird

    On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:
    > On 8/24/2010 9:50 AM, Roland Mösl wrote:
    >> By changing from my old Windows XP notebook
    >> to my new Windows 7 64 Bit notebook,
    >> I was forced to change from Outlock Express
    >> to Thunderbird.
    >>
    >> The *!# at Microsoft really managed it,
    >> that I was not able to import my email
    >> from the old system.
    >>
    >> ABC-Outlook my usual backup program
    >> for outlock express crashed, all other attempts
    >> failed.
    >>
    >> So I am now with Thunderbird and wonder about
    >> the high CPU usage.
    >>
    >> My new notebook has a Core 2 Duo
    >> and Thunderbird shows always with 10 to 45%
    >> CPU usage.
    >>
    >> What does Thunderbird with all this CPU power
    >> while idling?
    >>

    >
    > This is not the perfect place to post about TB and I suggest you use
    > Mozilla.Support.Thunderbird.
    >
    > Anyway, I will try to help. First, which version did you install?
    > Personally, I use 3.0.6 which I prefer to more recent ones.
    >
    > Then, have you turned off the indexer? I guess most people have disabled
    > it, it does have an important impact on performance. Open Tools,
    > Options, Advanced, General and make sure Enable Global Search and
    > Indexer is not checked.
    >
    > Does this solve the problem?


    Thanks!

    I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
    This solves a big problem for me, since there is
    no electric connection available in the airplane.

    My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
    which would have been reduced by the indexer
    to maybe only 8 hours.
     
  4. John Doue

    John Doue Flightless Bird

    On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
    > On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:

    snip

    > Thanks!
    >
    > I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
    > This solves a big problem for me, since there is
    > no electric connection available in the airplane.
    >
    > My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
    > which would have been reduced by the indexer
    > to maybe only 8 hours.
    >
    >

    You are welcome!

    --
    John Doue
     
  5. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Flightless Bird

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
    > On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
    >> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:

    > snip
    >
    >> Thanks!
    >>
    >> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
    >> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
    >> no electric connection available in the airplane.
    >>
    >> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
    >> which would have been reduced by the indexer
    >> to maybe only 8 hours.
    >>
    >>

    > You are welcome!


    Thanks from me too. I don't have problems with CPU usage and T'bird but I
    turned it off anyway as T'bird's open all of the time my PC's on. :)
    --
    Shaun.

    "I'm in a half-way house on a one-way street and I'm a quarter past
    left-alive"
     
  6. BillW50

    BillW50 Flightless Bird

    In news:i520d7$2ej$1@news.eternal-september.org,
    ~misfit~ typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:50:11 +1200:
    > Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
    >> On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
    >>> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:

    >> snip
    >>
    >>> Thanks!
    >>>
    >>> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
    >>> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
    >>> no electric connection available in the airplane.
    >>>
    >>> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
    >>> which would have been reduced by the indexer
    >>> to maybe only 8 hours.
    >>>
    >>>

    >> You are welcome!

    >
    > Thanks from me too. I don't have problems with CPU usage and T'bird
    > but I turned it off anyway as T'bird's open all of the time my PC's
    > on. :)


    Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to your
    posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except Microsoft has
    this feature. Why I have no idea? Anybody who posts on newsgroups would
    want to see any replies to their posts, this is a no brainier! Yes
    Thunderbird and others are just too stupid to add this most needed
    feature. Go figure!

    --
    Bill
    Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2
     
  7. Roland Mösl

    Roland Mösl Flightless Bird

    On 2010-08-25 05:45, BillW50 wrote:
    > In news:i520d7$2ej$1@news.eternal-september.org,
    > ~misfit~ typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:50:11 +1200:
    >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
    >>> On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
    >>>> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:
    >>> snip
    >>>
    >>>> Thanks!
    >>>>
    >>>> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
    >>>> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
    >>>> no electric connection available in the airplane.
    >>>>
    >>>> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
    >>>> which would have been reduced by the indexer
    >>>> to maybe only 8 hours.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> You are welcome!

    >>
    >> Thanks from me too. I don't have problems with CPU usage and T'bird
    >> but I turned it off anyway as T'bird's open all of the time my PC's
    >> on. :)

    >
    > Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to your
    > posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except Microsoft has
    > this feature. Why I have no idea? Anybody who posts on newsgroups would
    > want to see any replies to their posts, this is a no brainier! Yes
    > Thunderbird and others are just too stupid to add this most needed
    > feature. Go figure!


    This would have been my next question for the thunderbird newsgroup

    BTW,

    I had over 10 GB mails, I switched of indexing
    and switched it on in the night.

    In the night, the index data base increased from 1,9 to 2,6 GB.

    Now indexing seems to be finished, I can let it turned on
    and normal CPU usage
     
  8. Lars

    Lars Flightless Bird

    Previously, on Usenet "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

    >Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
    >your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
    >Microsoft has this feature.


    Forte's Agent has that too.

    I have used Agent for so long now that I am not sure if it is this way
    by default or if I have set it up so. Anyway, every thread to which I
    have posted anything becomes a 'watch'-thread.


    Lars
    Stockholm
     
  9. Linea Recta

    Linea Recta Flightless Bird

    "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> schreef in bericht
    news:i523k3$f45$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > In news:i520d7$2ej$1@news.eternal-september.org,
    > ~misfit~ typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:50:11 +1200:
    >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
    >>> On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
    >>>> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:
    >>> snip
    >>>
    >>>> Thanks!
    >>>>
    >>>> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
    >>>> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
    >>>> no electric connection available in the airplane.
    >>>>
    >>>> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
    >>>> which would have been reduced by the indexer
    >>>> to maybe only 8 hours.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> You are welcome!

    >>
    >> Thanks from me too. I don't have problems with CPU usage and T'bird
    >> but I turned it off anyway as T'bird's open all of the time my PC's
    >> on. :)

    >
    > Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to your
    > posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except Microsoft has this
    > feature. Why I have no idea?



    I remember this feature was added to OE long time ago, being one of my
    requests :))

    Another option I desired: one special folder to which I get redirected all
    replies to my posts from any group to one place. So you never mis any reply,
    even if you have configured many groups. This is still not implemented as
    far as I know...


    --
    regards,

    |\ /|
    | \/ |@rk
    \../
    \/os
     
  10. BillW50

    BillW50 Flightless Bird

    In news:7pk976hgmo9e3s2qln2os68o95gj26m7tb@4ax.com,
    Lars typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:54 +0200:
    > Previously, on Usenet "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
    >
    >> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
    >> your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
    >> Microsoft has this feature.

    >
    > Forte's Agent has that too.
    >
    > I have used Agent for so long now that I am not sure if it is this way
    > by default or if I have set it up so. Anyway, every thread to which I
    > have posted anything becomes a 'watch'-thread.


    I don't remember that when I was using Forte's Agent. Maybe it wasn't
    there way back then. This was just before Forte's Agent supported more
    than one email account. And OE6 doesn't automatically sets them as
    watched. Although a simple rule can do that too. So what is involved
    switching between show all and show only watched?

    --
    Bill
    Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2
     
  11. BillW50

    BillW50 Flightless Bird

    In news:4c750e64$0$22937$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl,
    Linea Recta typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:36:52 +0200:
    > "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> schreef in bericht
    > news:i523k3$f45$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> In news:i520d7$2ej$1@news.eternal-september.org,
    >> ~misfit~ typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:50:11 +1200:
    >>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
    >>>> On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
    >>>>> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:
    >>>> snip
    >>>>
    >>>>> Thanks!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
    >>>>> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
    >>>>> no electric connection available in the airplane.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
    >>>>> which would have been reduced by the indexer
    >>>>> to maybe only 8 hours.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> You are welcome!
    >>>
    >>> Thanks from me too. I don't have problems with CPU usage and T'bird
    >>> but I turned it off anyway as T'bird's open all of the time my PC's
    >>> on. :)

    >>
    >> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to your
    >> posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except Microsoft
    >> has this feature. Why I have no idea?

    >
    > I remember this feature was added to OE long time ago, being one of my
    > requests :))


    It is a must have feature as far as I am concern. ;-)

    > Another option I desired: one special folder to which I get
    > redirected all replies to my posts from any group to one place. So
    > you never mis any reply, even if you have configured many groups.
    > This is still not implemented as far as I know...


    I just checked and I thought it was possible. It is, but just for email
    by making a rule. Although newsgroup rules doesn't allow moving. :-(

    --
    Bill
    Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2
     
  12. AJL

    AJL Flightless Bird

    "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

    >In news:7pk976hgmo9e3s2qln2os68o95gj26m7tb@4ax.com,
    >Lars typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:54 +0200:
    >> Previously, on Usenet "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
    >>> your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
    >>> Microsoft has this feature.

    >>
    >> Forte's Agent has that too.
    >>
    >> I have used Agent for so long now that I am not sure if it is this way
    >> by default or if I have set it up so. Anyway, every thread to which I
    >> have posted anything becomes a 'watch'-thread.

    >
    >I don't remember that when I was using Forte's Agent. Maybe it wasn't
    >there way back then.


    I don't see anything like that on this old copy of Agent but it's a
    lot older than Lars. Lars, if you remember how you set it up let me
    know and I'll check around some more. Heck I paid US$29 for this thing
    and I'm still trying to get my moneys worth... ;)

    (Yea I know I could have gotten free upgrades way back when, and that
    later it all went free anyway, but heck I'm just software
    sentimentalist...)

    >This was just before Forte's Agent supported more
    >than one email account. And OE6 doesn't automatically sets them as
    >watched. Although a simple rule can do that too. So what is involved
    >switching between show all and show only watched?
     
  13. Linea Recta

    Linea Recta Flightless Bird

    "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> schreef in bericht
    news:i547mv$d24$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    > In news:4c750e64$0$22937$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl,
    > Linea Recta typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:36:52 +0200:
    >> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> schreef in bericht
    >> news:i523k3$f45$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> In news:i520d7$2ej$1@news.eternal-september.org,
    >>> ~misfit~ typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:50:11 +1200:
    >>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs John Doue wrote:
    >>>>> On 8/24/2010 12:12 PM, Roland Mösl wrote:
    >>>>>> On 2010-08-24 09:14, John Doue wrote:
    >>>>> snip
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Thanks!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I am flying Sunday from Munich to Chuangchung China.
    >>>>>> This solves a big problem for me, since there is
    >>>>>> no electric connection available in the airplane.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> My ASUS UL30 has only 12 hours on battery,
    >>>>>> which would have been reduced by the indexer
    >>>>>> to maybe only 8 hours.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> You are welcome!
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks from me too. I don't have problems with CPU usage and T'bird
    >>>> but I turned it off anyway as T'bird's open all of the time my PC's
    >>>> on. :)
    >>>
    >>> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to your
    >>> posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except Microsoft
    >>> has this feature. Why I have no idea?

    >>
    >> I remember this feature was added to OE long time ago, being one of my
    >> requests :))

    >
    > It is a must have feature as far as I am concern. ;-)



    Of course it is.


    >
    >> Another option I desired: one special folder to which I get
    >> redirected all replies to my posts from any group to one place. So
    >> you never mis any reply, even if you have configured many groups.
    >> This is still not implemented as far as I know...

    >
    > I just checked and I thought it was possible. It is, but just for email by
    > making a rule. Although newsgroup rules doesn't allow moving. :-(



    I've been trying that, also long time ago, but then discovered I was
    expecting far too much no-nonsense intelligence and then I quit exploring
    these "rules" options immediately. And as it seems, they still haven't
    invented the wheel...
    And there's no need for moving. Copying would do the job, but there is no
    way. Besides, I can't see the logics of treating news replies so different
    to e-mail replies.
    BTW I've only been using OE in Windows XP and Windows Mail under Vista. And
    Windows Mail seems to be a buggy version of OE. For instance, I have been
    making a rule for colour-marking replies to my messages and even that only
    works incidently! Making software seems less straight foreward than for
    instance... let's say poetry!



    --
    regards,

    |\ /|
    | \/ |@rk
    \../
    \/os
     
  14. Tom Cole

    Tom Cole Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:41:40 -0700, AJL <4239@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

    >"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
    >
    >>In news:7pk976hgmo9e3s2qln2os68o95gj26m7tb@4ax.com,
    >>Lars typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:54 +0200:
    >>> Previously, on Usenet "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
    >>>> your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
    >>>> Microsoft has this feature.
    >>>
    >>> Forte's Agent has that too.
    >>>
    >>> I have used Agent for so long now that I am not sure if it is this way
    >>> by default or if I have set it up so. Anyway, every thread to which I
    >>> have posted anything becomes a 'watch'-thread.

    >>
    >>I don't remember that when I was using Forte's Agent. Maybe it wasn't
    >>there way back then.

    >
    >I don't see anything like that on this old copy of Agent but it's a
    >lot older than Lars. Lars, if you remember how you set it up let me
    >know and I'll check around some more. Heck I paid US$29 for this thing
    >and I'm still trying to get my moneys worth... ;)
    >

    (Good value, wasn't it.) To achieve this, select one of your replies
    in a newsgroup, press ctrl+w to set a watch filter, adjust any
    parameters (you may want to make it global) and press OK. Then to see
    these watched threads use the View menu and select Show Watched
    Threads.
     
  15. AJL

    AJL Flightless Bird

    Tom Cole <tacoleNOSPAM@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:

    >On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:41:40 -0700, AJL <4239@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
    >
    >>"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
    >>
    >>>In news:7pk976hgmo9e3s2qln2os68o95gj26m7tb@4ax.com,
    >>>Lars typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:54 +0200:
    >>>> Previously, on Usenet "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
    >>>>> your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
    >>>>> Microsoft has this feature.
    >>>>
    >>>> Forte's Agent has that too.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have used Agent for so long now that I am not sure if it is this way
    >>>> by default or if I have set it up so. Anyway, every thread to which I
    >>>> have posted anything becomes a 'watch'-thread.
    >>>
    >>>I don't remember that when I was using Forte's Agent. Maybe it wasn't
    >>>there way back then.

    >>
    >>I don't see anything like that on this old copy of Agent but it's a
    >>lot older than Lars. Lars, if you remember how you set it up let me
    >>know and I'll check around some more. Heck I paid US$29 for this thing
    >>and I'm still trying to get my moneys worth... ;)
    >>

    >(Good value, wasn't it.) To achieve this, select one of your replies
    >in a newsgroup, press ctrl+w to set a watch filter, adjust any
    >parameters (you may want to make it global) and press OK. Then to see
    >these watched threads use the View menu and select Show Watched
    >Threads.


    Yes, I have watch threads. But how do you make Agent globally find any
    answers to your posts as Bill said OE6 does? He wrote:

    "Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
    your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
    Microsoft has this feature."

    Lars claimed his Version of Agent has this feature. He wrote:

    "Forte's Agent has that too."

    I don't think my Agent version does, and I'm beginning to doubt that
    Lars version does either...

    Am I misunderstanding what Bill's saying about OE6?
     
  16. Tom Cole

    Tom Cole Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:40:27 -0700, AJL <4239@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

    >Tom Cole <tacoleNOSPAM@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:41:40 -0700, AJL <4239@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>>"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>In news:7pk976hgmo9e3s2qln2os68o95gj26m7tb@4ax.com,
    >>>>Lars typed on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:54 +0200:
    >>>>> Previously, on Usenet "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
    >>>>>> your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
    >>>>>> Microsoft has this feature.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Forte's Agent has that too.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have used Agent for so long now that I am not sure if it is this way
    >>>>> by default or if I have set it up so. Anyway, every thread to which I
    >>>>> have posted anything becomes a 'watch'-thread.
    >>>>
    >>>>I don't remember that when I was using Forte's Agent. Maybe it wasn't
    >>>>there way back then.
    >>>
    >>>I don't see anything like that on this old copy of Agent but it's a
    >>>lot older than Lars. Lars, if you remember how you set it up let me
    >>>know and I'll check around some more. Heck I paid US$29 for this thing
    >>>and I'm still trying to get my moneys worth... ;)
    >>>

    >>(Good value, wasn't it.) To achieve this, select one of your replies
    >>in a newsgroup, press ctrl+w to set a watch filter, adjust any
    >>parameters (you may want to make it global) and press OK. Then to see
    >>these watched threads use the View menu and select Show Watched
    >>Threads.

    >
    >Yes, I have watch threads. But how do you make Agent globally find any
    >answers to your posts as Bill said OE6 does? He wrote:
    >
    >"Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
    >your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
    >Microsoft has this feature."
    >
    >Lars claimed his Version of Agent has this feature. He wrote:
    >
    >"Forte's Agent has that too."
    >
    >I don't think my Agent version does, and I'm beginning to doubt that
    >Lars version does either...
    >
    >Am I misunderstanding what Bill's saying about OE6?


    No, Agent can't do what Bill said literally (ctrl-h, etc). Lars was
    showing you how you could achieve something similar in Agent. The View
    menu item would be 'Show watched and unread'. You could then use the
    Agent navigation keys (or mouse) to view the threads in sequence. You
    would see new replies in those threads. I don't know how similar this
    is to OE as I haven't used it.
     
  17. AJL

    AJL Flightless Bird

    Tom Cole <tacoleNOSPAM@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:

    >No, Agent can't do what Bill said literally (ctrl-h, etc). Lars was
    >showing you how you could achieve something similar in Agent. The View
    >menu item would be 'Show watched and unread'. You could then use the
    >Agent navigation keys (or mouse) to view the threads in sequence. You
    >would see new replies in those threads. I don't know how similar this
    >is to OE as I haven't used it.


    OK thanks. I don't follow that many Usenet text groups anymore so that
    capability wouldn't be that big of an advantage to me. But I was
    curious since after all this time using Agent I wondered if there was
    actually something new I hadn't found yet... ;)

    BTW most of the web forums I follow will email me if somebody answers
    a post of mine. So I guess that's sort of the same idea.
     
  18. Roland Mösl

    Roland Mösl Flightless Bird

    Re: Thunderbird high energy usage only during indexing

    On 2010-08-24 08:50, Roland Mösl wrote:
    > By changing from my old Windows XP notebook
    > to my new Windows 7 64 Bit notebook,
    > I was forced to change from Outlock Express
    > to Thunderbird.
    >
    > The *!# at Microsoft really managed it,
    > that I was not able to import my email
    > from the old system.
    >
    > ABC-Outlook my usual backup program
    > for outlock express crashed, all other attempts
    > failed.
    >
    > So I am now with Thunderbird and wonder about
    > the high CPU usage.
    >
    > My new notebook has a Core 2 Duo
    > and Thunderbird shows always with 10 to 45%
    > CPU usage.
    >
    > What does Thunderbird with all this CPU power
    > while idling?


    Thunderbird indexed my 10 GB imported emails.
    The index file is now 2,6 GB long.

    After this, no unusual CPU usage


    --
    Roland Mösl - PEGE - http://www.pege.org
    Planetary Engineering Group Earth
     
  19. Lars

    Lars Flightless Bird

    Previously, on Usenet AJL <4239@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

    >Yes, I have watch threads. But how do you make Agent globally find any
    >answers to your posts as Bill said OE6 does? He wrote:
    >
    >"Thunderbird fails the most desired feature of finding replies to
    >your posts like OE6 does by CTRL-H. No other products except
    >Microsoft has this feature."
    >
    >Lars claimed his Version of Agent has this feature. He wrote:
    >
    >"Forte's Agent has that too."


    I make a filter on my own usenet-id "Lars <Lars@fake.com>", and set
    that filter to "Watch thread", and "global scope". With that Agent
    will always retrieve the bodies for all messages in such threads.

    When I fire up Agent I do a command, Ctrl+E wich will make it log in
    to my three different mail servers and retrieve al mails.

    Then I do a Alt+A+K wich will make Agent log in to my three different
    news servers and retrieve all headers for the groups I subscribe to in
    this presently active desk. (I can have different desks.)

    Then I do Alt+G wich will retrieve all bodies to marked messages.

    By then I am done online for the moment, and in modem days I would log
    off from the Net.

    Then by hitting the space bar, again and again, nothing but the space
    bar, I read through all my mails and all such usenet posts for wich I
    have the body. I may reply to some, or not.

    Then I hit the Tab key a couple of times and the home key until focus
    is at the top of all Usenet posts.
    Then I hit the N key to take me to the first unread message, on that I
    can either M it, "Mark for retrieval", or W it for "Watch thread". I
    go through all new messages, which presently only are headers, until
    at the bottom. All with the N key.

    Then I Tab to the pane with all Usenet groups, and do Ctrl+A to mark
    all, then I do Shift+F10+R for "Mark folders read". No there are no
    longer any more "new" posts, or headers rather.

    When there are new posts or threads I want to read right away I go
    back to "Alt+G wich will retrieve all bodies to marked messages." And
    space bar to read the bodies.

    I read abt 10 mails and 25-40 Usenet bodies, and scan through 200
    headers in about fifteen minutes, and all without touching the mouse.
    Presently I susbscribe to 9 Usenet groups, several of which have
    little traffic. In winter I follow some 20 groups.

    Agent is really very good! Unbelivable value for 26$.


    Lars
    Stockholm
     
  20. Lars

    Lars Flightless Bird

    Previously, on Usenet Lars <Lars@fake.com> wrote:

    >>Lars claimed his Version of Agent has this feature. He wrote:
    >>
    >>"Forte's Agent has that too."

    >
    >I read abt 10 mails and 25-40 Usenet bodies, and scan through 200
    >headers in about fifteen minutes,


    What I really meant to say with that long post is that in effect I get
    the same result as what Bill mentions. It is not exactly "show only
    threads that I have posted too", but with the way I use Agent I can
    quickly get to read just those threads.

    Lars
    Stockholm
     

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