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The Windows 7 Start Menu

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by PDFrank, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "News123" <news1234@free.fr> wrote in message news:4c3e07d8$0$10059$426a34cc@news.free.fr...
    > Bob Hatch wrote:
    >>>
    >>> that clicking on shutdown shuts down without a confirmation dialogue.
    >>>
    >>> Why I don't like this?
    >>>
    >>> Next to toe shutdown button is the very small 'options' section, which
    >>> you have to click
    >>>
    >>> if you want to
    >>> - log in as other user
    >>> - log off
    >>> - suspend
    >>> - hibernate
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> It happened already several times to me, that I
    >>> shut down my PC accidentally when I just anted to login as other user.
    >>>
    >>> I there were any trick for that I'd be glad.
    >>>
    >>> The rest of the start menu is IMHO mainly different, not worse.

    >>
    >> Right click on the button and change it to the option you prefer.

    > Thanks for this tip.
    >
    > Well I changed it now to lock screen.
    > At least less annoying than an unvolontary shutdown.
    >
    > Still not very ergonomic in my opinion at last with a small screen and
    > touchscreen / touchpen.
    >
    > I'd prefer to have two level menu, but one can't have everything :-(
    >


    Googling 'shutdown confirmation windows 7' gives quite
    a few hits. One of the easiest ways to create a dialog
    box on shutdown is to enable the Shutdown Event Tracker.

    If your version of Win7 supports the group policy editor:
    Start menu > In the Search box enter 'gpedit.msc'
    Double click gpedit.msc to run it and go to:
    Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System.

    Select 'System' on the left and on the right find:
    Display Shutdown Event Tracker.
    Double-click to open it and select Enabled.

    Now when you shutdown there will be a dialog box opened and to
    activate the OK button select a drop-down item.

    If you haven't got the Group Policy Editor you can get the same
    result by editing the registry.
    Copy the following reg file into a blank text document and save it as Shutdown.reg
    Right-click Shutdown.reg and select 'Merge'.
    (If you have 32 bit Win7 then delete the second part of this reg file.)
    (If you have 64 bit Win7 then you need both parts.)

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\Reliability]
    "ShutdownReasonOn"=dword:00000001
    "ShutdownReasonUI"=dword:00000001

    ;This section needed for 64 bit Win7
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\Reliability]
    "ShutdownReasonOn"=dword:00000001
    "ShutdownReasonUI"=dword:00000001
     
  2. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    tony is a stupid asshole FUD spreading jerk!

    On 7/14/2010 12:54 PM, Tony wrote:
    > You just keep on dreaming in your may believe world of windows 7. Falling for
    > microshit's snowjob that it's good. Yeah, good for nuthin'.


    Listen you dumb fuck, the World runs on MS OS's and Windows 7 is the
    very best OS available today.
    That you can't figure that out or that you can afford 7 is no reason
    for you to keep posting your FUD in this ng.
    Get lost and don't bother to come back.
     
  3. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:10:44 +0100, johnbee wrote:

    > "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:1773gq42x0sg$.1cgf1v8zhbxjk$.dlg@40tude.net...
    >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:57:24 +0200, News123 wrote:
    >>
    >>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >>>>>> if you want to
    >>>>>> - log in as other user
    >>>>>> - log off
    >>>>>> - suspend
    >>>>>> - hibernate
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It happened already several times to me, that I
    >>>>>> shut down my PC accidentally when I just anted to login as other user.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I there were any trick for that I'd be glad.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The rest of the start menu is IMHO mainly different, not worse.
    >>>>> Right click on the button and change it to the option you prefer.
    >>>>
    >>>> Nah, way too easy :)
    >>>
    >>> Believe it or not, I never thought about right clicking on this button.
    >>> It's not exactly what I was looking for, but already better than before.

    >>
    >> To be honest, although I have read about the option on the shut-down
    >> button
    >> before, I never thought of it either. I just couldn't resist the
    >> opportunity to inject some minor sarcasm :)
    >>
    >>>> This thread seems to me to be a religious one, so I have nothing further
    >>>> to
    >>>> post here for fear that I'll offend someone (everyone?)
    >>>
    >>> In this group it's very easy to offend and to be offended.
    >>> I read worse threads though.

    >>
    >> See the remark about minor sarcasm ;-)
    >>
    >> Since it is, ISTM, a matter of personal preference and not a factual
    >> matter, when opinions are so strong it's best to keep quiet - whether I
    >> agree with a particular individual or not...
    >>
    >> --
    >> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

    >
    > As a matter of opinion, I think that Windows 7 is very configurable but in
    > rather odd ways, and it is not all that easy and obvious to find out that
    > things can be changed.
    >
    > Just as an example, and to show how easy it is to get hold of the wrong end
    > of the stick, the help in Win 7 on this actual subject goes on about what
    > happens when you 'press the power button'. What happens on my PC when I
    > press the power button is that it switches it off when it's on and on when
    > it's off (toggles on/off to use a coinage) . I had the damn thing a couple
    > of weeks before I realised that they did not mean press the power button,.
    > they meant click on the shut down button (strictly speaking, left click it)
    > when the PC is on. I realise that they can't call it the shut down button
    > but power button is not the correct nomenclature unless they caption it
    > power, which would be daft, but that should have made them realise the
    > mistake.


    Or *an* administrator account vs *the* Administrator account, or Internet
    Explorer vs Windows Explorer (AKA "My Computer", and plenty of
    inexperienced people are confused by that), Windows Mail vs Windows Live
    mail, and on an on.

    That sort of stuff helps me stave off Alzheimer's :)

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  4. Roy Smith

    Roy Smith Flightless Bird

    On 7/14/2010 2:39 PM, johnbee wrote:
    >
    > "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:i1jm14$l5p$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:47:27 -0400, Tony wrote:
    >>
    >>> The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair
    >>> out. Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in
    >>> the haystack.

    >>
    >> Rubbish.

    >
    > OK. Suppose a few days ago I wrote something in MS Word. I have just
    > written an email message to a friend and I want to send what I wrote as
    > an attachment. Tell me how easy it is to attach it.


    Well that would depend on how you write email. Do you use a email
    program or a web interface (Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo, etc...)? Which one
    you use is going to determine how easy or hard it may be.

    Now if you just downloaded a file and didn't pay attention to where it
    was downloaded, then that's a whole different ballgame as there are
    several places it may have been saved to.


    --

    Roy Smith
    Windows 7 Professional
    Thunderbird 3.1
    Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:31:49 PM
     
  5. Roy Smith

    Roy Smith Flightless Bird

    On 7/13/2010 11:47 PM, Tony wrote:
    > The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair out.
    > Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in the
    > haystack.


    Ever try using the search box at the bottom of the Start menu? Works
    wonders... :)


    --

    Roy Smith
    Windows 7 Professional
    Thunderbird 3.1
    Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:36:21 PM
     
  6. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    On 7/14/2010 2:39 PM, johnbee wrote:
    >
    > "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:i1jm14$l5p$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:47:27 -0400, Tony wrote:
    >>
    >>> The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair
    >>> out. Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in
    >>> the haystack.

    >>
    >> Rubbish.

    >
    > OK. Suppose a few days ago I wrote something in MS Word. I have just
    > written an email message to a friend and I want to send what I wrote as
    > an attachment. Tell me how easy it is to attach it.


    Depends on whether you saved the doc file or not!
     
  7. Bob Hatch

    Bob Hatch Flightless Bird

    On 7/14/2010 5:33 PM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    > Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:10:44 +0100, johnbee wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:1773gq42x0sg$.1cgf1v8zhbxjk$.dlg@40tude.net...
    >>>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:57:24 +0200, News123 wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >>>>>>>> if you want to
    >>>>>>>> - log in as other user
    >>>>>>>> - log off
    >>>>>>>> - suspend
    >>>>>>>> - hibernate
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> It happened already several times to me, that I
    >>>>>>>> shut down my PC accidentally when I just anted to login as other
    >>>>>>>> user.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> I there were any trick for that I'd be glad.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> The rest of the start menu is IMHO mainly different, not worse.
    >>>>>>> Right click on the button and change it to the option you prefer.
    >>>>>> Nah, way too easy :)
    >>>>> Believe it or not, I never thought about right clicking on this
    >>>>> button.
    >>>>> It's not exactly what I was looking for, but already better than
    >>>>> before.
    >>>> To be honest, although I have read about the option on the shut-down
    >>>> button
    >>>> before, I never thought of it either. I just couldn't resist the
    >>>> opportunity to inject some minor sarcasm :)
    >>>>
    >>>>>> This thread seems to me to be a religious one, so I have nothing
    >>>>>> further to
    >>>>>> post here for fear that I'll offend someone (everyone?)
    >>>>> In this group it's very easy to offend and to be offended.
    >>>>> I read worse threads though.
    >>>> See the remark about minor sarcasm ;-)
    >>>>
    >>>> Since it is, ISTM, a matter of personal preference and not a factual
    >>>> matter, when opinions are so strong it's best to keep quiet - whether I
    >>>> agree with a particular individual or not...
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
    >>> As a matter of opinion, I think that Windows 7 is very configurable
    >>> but in rather odd ways, and it is not all that easy and obvious to
    >>> find out that things can be changed.
    >>>
    >>> Just as an example, and to show how easy it is to get hold of the
    >>> wrong end of the stick, the help in Win 7 on this actual subject goes
    >>> on about what happens when you 'press the power button'. What happens
    >>> on my PC when I press the power button is that it switches it off
    >>> when it's on and on when it's off (toggles on/off to use a coinage) .
    >>> I had the damn thing a couple of weeks before I realised that they
    >>> did not mean press the power button,. they meant click on the shut
    >>> down button (strictly speaking, left click it) when the PC is on. I
    >>> realise that they can't call it the shut down button but power button
    >>> is not the correct nomenclature unless they caption it power, which
    >>> would be daft, but that should have made them realise the mistake.

    >>
    >> Or *an* administrator account vs *the* Administrator account, or Internet
    >> Explorer vs Windows Explorer (AKA "My Computer", and plenty of
    >> inexperienced people are confused by that), Windows Mail vs Windows Live
    >> mail, and on an on.
    >>
    >> That sort of stuff helps me stave off Alzheimer's :)
    >>

    > I think the help documents are written in India.


    By a guy who speaks fluent Russian. :)

    --
    "There are no jobs that Americans
    will not do. There are jobs Americans
    will not be hired for because an
    illegal alien has taken it."

    "Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

    http://www.bobhatch.com
    http://www.tdsrvresort.com
    http://www.keepazsafe.com/
     
  8. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    On 7/14/2010 3:10 PM, johnbee wrote:
    >


    > As a matter of opinion, I think that Windows 7 is very configurable but
    > in rather odd ways, and it is not all that easy and obvious to find out
    > that things can be changed.
    >
    > Just as an example, and to show how easy it is to get hold of the wrong
    > end of the stick, the help in Win 7 on this actual subject goes on about
    > what happens when you 'press the power button'. What happens on my PC
    > when I press the power button is that it switches it off when it's on
    > and on when it's off (toggles on/off to use a coinage) . I had the damn
    > thing a couple of weeks before I realised that they did not mean press
    > the power button,. they meant click on the shut down button (strictly
    > speaking, left click it) when the PC is on. I realise that they can't
    > call it the shut down button but power button is not the correct
    > nomenclature unless they caption it power, which would be daft, but that
    > should have made them realise the mistake.


    Actually they did mean the PC Power Button. For PCs that are ACPI
    compliant and properly configured, Windows controls the response. Of
    course if you set the BIOS to shut the PC off immediately if you press
    the Power Switch instead of holding for 4 seconds then Windows doesn't
    have a chance to intervene. Microsoft didn't make the mistake. ;-)
     
  9. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    "Roy Smith" wrote in message news:%Rr%n.330583$3k7.191298@en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com...

    On 7/13/2010 11:47 PM, Tony wrote:

    > The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair out.
    > Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in the
    > haystack.


    Ever try using the search box at the bottom of the Start menu? Works
    wonders... :)


    ROTFL!
     
  10. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Re: tony is a stupid asshole FUD spreading jerk!

    On 07/15/2010 02:38 AM, Frank wrote:
    > On 7/14/2010 4:18 PM, Alias wrote:
    >> On 07/14/2010 10:46 PM, Frank wrote:
    >>> On 7/14/2010 12:54 PM, Tony wrote:
    >>>> You just keep on dreaming in your may believe world of windows 7.
    >>>> Falling for
    >>>> microshit's snowjob that it's good. Yeah, good for nuthin'.
    >>>
    >>> Listen you dumb fuck,

    >>
    >> "Dumb" is an adjective and is therefore an opinion.

    >
    > I made a definitive statement, you *DUMB FUCK*!
    > Oops!...LOL!


    No, you gave your opinion.

    >>
    >>> the World runs on MS OS's and Windows 7 is the
    >>> very best OS available today.

    >>
    >> "Best" is an adjective and therefore is an opinion.
    >>

    > Majority rules, is the "best" opinion, you moron!...LOL!


    The majority is usually wrong and your sentence structure sucks big
    time. Majorities have believe things like the world is flat, blood
    letting is a cure for sickness, the sun revolves around the earth, etc.
    In *any* case "best" is an adjective and because you wrote the post,
    YOUR opinion.

    >
    >>> That you can't figure that out or that you can afford 7 is no reason for
    >>> you to keep posting your FUD in this ng.
    >>> Get lost and don't bother to come back.

    >>
    >> Telling someone else to get lost, eh?

    >
    > hehehe...does that get your little lacy soiled panties all in a bunch
    > sheep fucker?


    No, just an observation that lead you to have another hissy fit.

    >
    > And you wonder why you don't have
    >> any friends and why your family rolls their eyes when you walk in the
    >> room.
    >>

    > "Wonder" when used as adjective is an opinion!
    > Oops!!!...you are not that bright!...LOL!


    Um, "wonder" was used as a verb, speaking of not being very bright.
    "Wonder" is never used as an adjective. It can only be a noun or a verb.
    Where did you go to school, White Trash U.?


    --
    Alias
     
  11. Sunny Bard

    Sunny Bard Flightless Bird

    Gordon wrote:
    > "Roy Smith" wrote in message news:%Rr%n.330583$3k7.191298@en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com...
    >
    > On 7/13/2010 11:47 PM, Tony wrote:
    >> The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair out.
    >> Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in the
    >> haystack.

    >
    > Ever try using the search box at the bottom of the Start menu? Works
    > wonders... :)


    Yes it works, but then the whole point of a GUI is that you shouldn't
    have to type the name of what you want, it also doesn't give you any
    clue where it is for future, so you just have to type it again next time.
     
  12. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    "Sunny Bard" wrote in message news:i1mhfl$ms0$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...

    Gordon wrote:

    > "Roy Smith" wrote in message news:%Rr%n.330583$3k7.191298@en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com...
    >
    > On 7/13/2010 11:47 PM, Tony wrote:

    >> The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair out.
    >> Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in the
    >> haystack.

    >
    > Ever try using the search box at the bottom of the Start menu? Works
    > wonders... :)


    Yes it works, but then the whole point of a GUI is that you shouldn't
    have to type the name of what you want,

    Eh? So how does the OS KNOW what you are searching for? Of COURSE you have to TELL it what you want to find...


    it also doesn't give you any
    clue where it is for future, so you just have to type it again next time.

    If you right-click on the found search item you get an "open File location" option......
     
  13. Roy Smith

    Roy Smith Flightless Bird

    On 7/15/2010 3:39 AM, Sunny Bard wrote:
    > Gordon wrote:
    >> "Roy Smith" wrote in message
    >> news:%Rr%n.330583$3k7.191298@en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com...
    >>
    >> On 7/13/2010 11:47 PM, Tony wrote:
    >>> The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their
    >>> hair out.
    >>> Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in the
    >>> haystack.

    >>
    >> Ever try using the search box at the bottom of the Start menu? Works
    >> wonders... :)

    >
    > Yes it works, but then the whole point of a GUI is that you shouldn't
    > have to type the name of what you want, it also doesn't give you any
    > clue where it is for future, so you just have to type it again next time.


    I guess you haven't tried right clicking on the file and selecting "Open
    File Location". There you can see the full path to where the file is on
    the hard drive.


    --

    Roy Smith
    Windows 7 Professional
    Thunderbird 3.1
    Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:35:13 AM
     
  14. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    Re: tony is a stupid asshole FUD spreading jerk!

    On 7/15/2010 1:07 AM, Alias wrote:
    > On 07/15/2010 02:38 AM, Frank wrote:
    >> On 7/14/2010 4:18 PM, Alias wrote:
    >>> On 07/14/2010 10:46 PM, Frank wrote:
    >>>> On 7/14/2010 12:54 PM, Tony wrote:
    >>>>> You just keep on dreaming in your may believe world of windows 7.
    >>>>> Falling for
    >>>>> microshit's snowjob that it's good. Yeah, good for nuthin'.
    >>>>
    >>>> Listen you dumb fuck,
    >>>
    >>> "Dumb" is an adjective and is therefore an opinion.

    >>
    >> I made a definitive statement, you *DUMB FUCK*!
    >> Oops!...LOL!

    >
    > No, you gave your opinion.


    No. I made a definitive statement.
    Live with it, loser.
    >
    >>>
    >>>> the World runs on MS OS's and Windows 7 is the
    >>>> very best OS available today.
    >>>
    >>> "Best" is an adjective and therefore is an opinion.
    >>>

    >> Majority rules, is the "best" opinion, you moron!...LOL!

    >
    > The majority is usually wrong...


    That is simply not true.

    and your sentence structure sucks big
    > time.


    Try kill file...if you know how.

    Majorities have believe things like the world is flat,...


    Never happened. Maybe your two, stupid, infected friends thought that
    the World was flat, but the majority knew it was not...especially sea
    going persons...who knew the truth.

    blood
    > letting is a cure for sickness, the sun revolves around the earth, etc.


    You keep stating very old distorted views that were held only by those
    in power to keep the majority enslaved. You one of the stupid ones
    aren't you.

    > In *any* case "best" is an adjective and because you wrote the post,
    > YOUR opinion.


    It's a fact, jack.
    >
    >>
    >>>> That you can't figure that out or that you can afford 7 is no reason
    >>>> for
    >>>> you to keep posting your FUD in this ng.
    >>>> Get lost and don't bother to come back.
    >>>
    >>> Telling someone else to get lost, eh?

    >>
    >> hehehe...does that get your little lacy soiled panties all in a bunch
    >> sheep fucker?

    >
    > No, just an observation that lead you to have another hissy fit.


    No, it does get your little soiled lacy panties all in a bunch!...LOL!
    >
    >>
    >> And you wonder why you don't have
    >>> any friends and why your family rolls their eyes when you walk in the
    >>> room.
    >>>

    >> "Wonder" when used as adjective is an opinion!
    >> Oops!!!...you are not that bright!...LOL!

    >
    > Um, "wonder" was used as a verb, speaking of not being very bright.
    > "Wonder" is never used as an adjective. It can only be a noun or a verb.
    > Where did you go to school, White Trash U.?
    >


    hehehe...you're the one who is not very bright!...LOL!

    "won·der [wúndər]
    noun (plural won·ders)
    1. amazed admiration: amazed admiration or awe, especially at something
    very beautiful or new
    2. something marvelous: a miracle or other cause of intense admiration
    or awe


    adjective
    extraordinarily good: exciting admiration or amazement by virtue of
    being outstandingly good, effective, or unusual
    Oops!...LOL!


    verb (past and past participle won·dered, present participle
    won·der·ing, 3rd person present singular won·ders)
    1. transitive and intransitive verb speculate about something: to
    speculate or be curious to know about something
    2. intransitive verb be amazed: to be in a state of amazed admiration
    or awe"

    I guess that GED you got through the mail isn't all you thought or hoped
    it would be, right?
    Too bad, you uneducated vile, little creep.
    Now eat shit and die, you cock sucking sheep-fucking POS!
     
  15. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Re: tony is a stupid asshole FUD spreading jerk!

    On 07/15/2010 07:00 PM, Frank wrote:
    > On 7/15/2010 1:07 AM, Alias wrote:
    >> On 07/15/2010 02:38 AM, Frank wrote:
    >>> On 7/14/2010 4:18 PM, Alias wrote:
    >>>> On 07/14/2010 10:46 PM, Frank wrote:
    >>>>> On 7/14/2010 12:54 PM, Tony wrote:
    >>>>>> You just keep on dreaming in your may believe world of windows 7.
    >>>>>> Falling for
    >>>>>> microshit's snowjob that it's good. Yeah, good for nuthin'.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Listen you dumb fuck,
    >>>>
    >>>> "Dumb" is an adjective and is therefore an opinion.
    >>>
    >>> I made a definitive statement, you *DUMB FUCK*!
    >>> Oops!...LOL!

    >>
    >> No, you gave your opinion.

    >
    > No. I made a definitive statement.
    > Live with it, loser.


    No, you gave your opinion that he is dumb and a fuck.

    >>
    >>>>
    >>>>> the World runs on MS OS's and Windows 7 is the
    >>>>> very best OS available today.
    >>>>
    >>>> "Best" is an adjective and therefore is an opinion.
    >>>>
    >>> Majority rules, is the "best" opinion, you moron!...LOL!

    >>
    >> The majority is usually wrong...

    >
    > That is simply not true.


    Um, yes, it is.

    >
    > and your sentence structure sucks big
    >> time.

    >
    > Try kill file...if you know how.


    Oh, I know how. I also know how to use self control. You don't.

    >
    > Majorities have believe things like the world is flat,...
    >
    >
    > Never happened. Maybe your two, stupid, infected friends thought that
    > the World was flat, but the majority knew it was not...especially sea
    > going persons...who knew the truth.


    Yeah, right. Puhlease, pull the other one, it has bells on it.

    >
    > blood
    >> letting is a cure for sickness, the sun revolves around the earth, etc.

    >
    > You keep stating very old distorted views that were held only by those
    > in power to keep the majority enslaved. You one of the stupid ones
    > aren't you.


    No, that would be you in spades.

    >
    >> In *any* case "best" is an adjective and because you wrote the post,
    >> YOUR opinion.

    >
    > It's a fact, jack.


    No, it's your opinion. You used to say the same about Vista and even
    Microsoft disagrees with you.

    >>
    >>>
    >>>>> That you can't figure that out or that you can afford 7 is no reason
    >>>>> for
    >>>>> you to keep posting your FUD in this ng.
    >>>>> Get lost and don't bother to come back.
    >>>>
    >>>> Telling someone else to get lost, eh?
    >>>
    >>> hehehe...does that get your little lacy soiled panties all in a bunch
    >>> sheep fucker?

    >>
    >> No, just an observation that lead you to have another hissy fit.

    >
    > No, it does get your little soiled lacy panties all in a bunch!...LOL!


    You're the one having a hissy fit, not me, chum.

    >>
    >>>
    >>> And you wonder why you don't have
    >>>> any friends and why your family rolls their eyes when you walk in the
    >>>> room.
    >>>>
    >>> "Wonder" when used as adjective is an opinion!
    >>> Oops!!!...you are not that bright!...LOL!

    >>
    >> Um, "wonder" was used as a verb, speaking of not being very bright.
    >> "Wonder" is never used as an adjective. It can only be a noun or a verb.
    >> Where did you go to school, White Trash U.?
    >>

    >
    > hehehe...you're the one who is not very bright!...LOL!
    >
    > "won·der [wúndər]
    > noun (plural won·ders)
    > 1. amazed admiration: amazed admiration or awe, especially at something
    > very beautiful or new
    > 2. something marvelous: a miracle or other cause of intense admiration
    > or awe
    >
    >
    > adjective
    > extraordinarily good: exciting admiration or amazement by virtue of
    > being outstandingly good, effective, or unusual
    > Oops!...LOL!
    >
    >
    > verb (past and past participle won·dered, present participle
    > won·der·ing, 3rd person present singular won·ders)
    > 1. transitive and intransitive verb speculate about something: to
    > speculate or be curious to know about something
    > 2. intransitive verb be amazed: to be in a state of amazed admiration or
    > awe"
    >
    > I guess that GED you got through the mail isn't all you thought or hoped
    > it would be, right?
    > Too bad, you uneducated vile, little creep.
    > Now eat shit and die, you cock sucking sheep-fucking POS!
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >


    Um, use wonder in a sentence as an adjective. Wonderful is one but not
    wonder.

    --
    Alias
     
  16. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    alias takes it up his stupid, arrogant ass...again!...LOL!

    On 7/15/2010 10:11 AM, Alias wrote:
    > On 07/15/2010 07:00 PM, Frank wrote:
    >> On 7/15/2010 1:07 AM, Alias wrote:
    >>> On 07/15/2010 02:38 AM, Frank wrote:
    >>>> On 7/14/2010 4:18 PM, Alias wrote:
    >>>>> On 07/14/2010 10:46 PM, Frank wrote:
    >>>>>> On 7/14/2010 12:54 PM, Tony wrote:
    >>>>>>> You just keep on dreaming in your may believe world of windows 7.
    >>>>>>> Falling for
    >>>>>>> microshit's snowjob that it's good. Yeah, good for nuthin'.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Listen you dumb fuck,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Dumb" is an adjective and is therefore an opinion.
    >>>>
    >>>> I made a definitive statement, you *DUMB FUCK*!
    >>>> Oops!...LOL!
    >>>
    >>> No, you gave your opinion.

    >>
    >> No. I made a definitive statement.
    >> Live with it, loser.

    >
    > No, you gave your opinion that he is dumb and a fuck.


    You're reading comprehension is as bad as your use of the English language!
    Oops!...LOL!
    >
    >>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> the World runs on MS OS's and Windows 7 is the
    >>>>>> very best OS available today.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Best" is an adjective and therefore is an opinion.
    >>>>>
    >>>> Majority rules, is the "best" opinion, you moron!...LOL!
    >>>
    >>> The majority is usually wrong...

    >>
    >> That is simply not true.

    >
    > Um, yes, it is.


    No, it is factually not true.
    >
    >>
    >> and your sentence structure sucks big
    >>> time.

    >>
    >> Try kill file...if you know how.

    >
    > Oh, I know how. I also know how to use self control. You don't.


    hehehe...sure you do. That is why you keep responding to me.
    You're one of my little Pavlovian dogs...a real mutt!
    >
    >>
    >> Majorities have believe things like the world is flat,...
    >>
    >>
    >> Never happened. Maybe your two, stupid, infected friends thought that
    >> the World was flat, but the majority knew it was not...especially sea
    >> going persons...who knew the truth.

    >
    > Yeah, right. Puhlease, pull the other one, it has bells on it.


    Thanks for proving my point...you're quite the moron.
    >
    >>
    >> blood
    >>> letting is a cure for sickness, the sun revolves around the earth, etc.

    >>
    >> You keep stating very old distorted views that were held only by those
    >> in power to keep the majority enslaved. You one of the stupid ones
    >> aren't you.

    >
    > No, that would be you in spades.


    You are the one who espoused those beliefs, not me.
    You dumb fuck!
    >
    >>
    >>> In *any* case "best" is an adjective and because you wrote the post,
    >>> YOUR opinion.

    >>
    >> It's a fact, jack.

    >
    > No, it's your opinion. You used to say the same about Vista and even
    > Microsoft disagrees with you.


    In your dreams. You like to "parse" words, but Microsoft never said
    anything like that. Never.
    >
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>> That you can't figure that out or that you can afford 7 is no reason
    >>>>>> for
    >>>>>> you to keep posting your FUD in this ng.
    >>>>>> Get lost and don't bother to come back.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Telling someone else to get lost, eh?
    >>>>
    >>>> hehehe...does that get your little lacy soiled panties all in a bunch
    >>>> sheep fucker?
    >>>
    >>> No, just an observation that lead you to have another hissy fit.

    >>
    >> No, it does get your little soiled lacy panties all in a bunch!...LOL!

    >
    > You're the one having a hissy fit, not me, chum.


    Who are you trying to fool, fool? You keep doing the dance, you jackass.
    >
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> And you wonder why you don't have
    >>>>> any friends and why your family rolls their eyes when you walk in the
    >>>>> room.
    >>>>>
    >>>> "Wonder" when used as adjective is an opinion!
    >>>> Oops!!!...you are not that bright!...LOL!
    >>>
    >>> Um, "wonder" was used as a verb, speaking of not being very bright.
    >>> "Wonder" is never used as an adjective. It can only be a noun or a verb.
    >>> Where did you go to school, White Trash U.?
    >>>

    >>
    >> hehehe...you're the one who is not very bright!...LOL!
    >>
    >> "won·der [wúndər]
    >> noun (plural won·ders)
    >> 1. amazed admiration: amazed admiration or awe, especially at something
    >> very beautiful or new
    >> 2. something marvelous: a miracle or other cause of intense admiration
    >> or awe
    >>
    >>
    >> adjective
    >> extraordinarily good: exciting admiration or amazement by virtue of
    >> being outstandingly good, effective, or unusual
    >> Oops!...LOL!
    >>
    >>
    >> verb (past and past participle won·dered, present participle
    >> won·der·ing, 3rd person present singular won·ders)
    >> 1. transitive and intransitive verb speculate about something: to
    >> speculate or be curious to know about something
    >> 2. intransitive verb be amazed: to be in a state of amazed admiration or
    >> awe"
    >>
    >> I guess that GED you got through the mail isn't all you thought or hoped
    >> it would be, right?
    >> Too bad, you uneducated vile, little creep.
    >> Now eat shit and die, you cock sucking sheep-fucking POS!
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Um, use wonder in a sentence as an adjective. Wonderful is one but not
    > wonder.


    Like I said, that GED you got through the mail, (or did you simply scan
    one?) isn't all you thought it would be.
    Too bad, you'll just have to live with it.
    Oops!...LOL!
    >
     
  17. DanS

    DanS Flightless Bird

    Re: tony is a stupid asshole FUD spreading jerk!

    > You keep stating very old distorted views that were held
    > only by those in power to keep the majority enslaved.


    Like religions ?



    >
    > Majorities have believe things like the world is flat,...
    >
    >
    > Never happened. Maybe your two, stupid, infected friends
    > thought that the World was flat, but the majority knew it
    > was not...especially sea going persons...who knew the
    > truth.


    "The belief that the Earth was flat was typical of ancient
    cosmologies until about the 4th century BC[6], when the
    Ancient Greek philosophers proposed the idea that the Earth
    was a sphere, or at least rounded in shape. Aristotle was one
    of the first thinkers to propose a spherical Earth in 330 BC.
    By the early Middle Ages, it was widespread knowledge
    throughout Europe that the Earth was a sphere."

    <SNIP>

    >>> "Wonder" when used as adjective is an opinion!
    >>> Oops!!!...you are not that bright!...LOL!

    >>
    >> Um, "wonder" was used as a verb, speaking of not being
    >> very bright. "Wonder" is never used as an adjective. It
    >> can only be a noun or a verb

    > .
    >> Where did you go to school, White Trash U.?
    >>

    >
    > hehehe...you're the one who is not very bright!...LOL!
    >


    > verb (past and past participle won·dered, present
    > participle won·der·ing, 3rd person present singular
    > won·ders) 1. transitive and intransitive verb speculate
    > about something: to speculate or be curious to know about
    > something 2. intransitive verb be amazed: to be in a state
    > of amazed admiration or awe"
    >
    > I guess that GED you got through the mail isn't all you
    > thought or hoped it would be, right?
    > Too bad, you uneducated vile, little creep.
    > Now eat shit and die, you cock sucking sheep-fucking POS!


    The verb definition you posted above is correct in describing
    the way 'wonder' was used. See the #1 verb definition.
     
  18. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:8pt%n.31220$f_3.14128@newsfe17.iad...

    >> Just as an example, and to show how easy it is to get hold of the wrong
    >> end of the stick, the help in Win 7 on this actual subject goes on about
    >> what happens when you 'press the power button'.


    > Actually they did mean the PC Power Button. >


    I snipped the rest.. They did not mean the PC Power Button as you said,
    when they wrote 'press the power button' they did not mean press they meant
    left-click etc. etc. However I said that it is easy to get hold of the
    wrong end of the stick. Or were you
    claiming that the word 'power' in that context has nothing to do with
    electricity? Or were you referring to a different part of the help system
    where they put initial capitals on Power and Button in which case you've got
    the wrong bit? You might be of the same mindset as the help writer and the
    queen of hearts thinking that words can mean precisely what she says they
    mean without bothering to give any definitions. Lewis Carroll was well
    aware that this renders language unintelligible. Or perhaps the word power
    has acquired a different meaning in the USA and India.

    My message was intended to be a mild protest against people being nastily
    superior to a person with a simple query, and also pointing out that Win7
    is not perfect.
     
  19. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:i1l5hs$n10$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > "johnbee" wrote in message
    > news:i1l3q0$jgq$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    >
    > "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:i1jm14$l5p$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:47:27 -0400, Tony wrote:
    >>
    >>> The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair
    >>> out. Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in
    >>> the haystack.

    >>
    >> Rubbish.

    >
    > OK. Suppose a few days ago I wrote something in MS Word. I have just
    > written an email message to a friend and I want to send what I wrote as an
    > attachment. Tell me how easy it is to attach it.
    >
    > Eh? As easy as in ANY OS.
    > Several ways.
    > Do Start-search, type in your search parameter, when the document shows,
    > do Right-click-send to mail recipient.
    > Or Open Word, do Recent Documents, open, send to mail recipient.
    > How many ways do you WANT to do it? There's at LEAST another two.
    > Is this a SERIOUS question or are you just posting bullshit?
    >


    You are live on Usenet. Please do not swear. I tried your first
    suggestion. It did not work. (I started an email message, clicked attach
    file, clicked Start, typed part of a file name in the search box with an
    asterisk on the end, right clicked a word document file which was listed,
    and paused because there was no such option as sending to mail recipient -
    so I double clicked on it instead and it opened in Word. That was no good
    of course.

    I tried your second suggestion. All the things I could easily find about
    mail after opening the document file in Word, as you suggested, were of
    course to do with what I, being a bit old fashioned, would term snail mail,
    there was no obvious option to set it as an attachment to an email. So that
    didn't work either.

    So it was a serious question, deliberately designed to show the difficulty
    of finding things and demonstrating exactly what difficulty a user will have
    because of this shortcoming. I chose attaching a document file to an email
    because it is something many users will need to do and because it is a
    function that users will think that they need to know the file's location.

    I assume that you told me your two easiest and best methods so I won't ask
    for the other two. (I know of course exactly how to do it because it is
    obvious within a few minutes of beginning Win7 that file locations will be a
    problem so I needed to solve it).

    I am afraid that the original poster was quite correct, Windows 7 is not
    great at making it simple and straightforward to find a file when you don't
    know where it is, and it is very good at making sure that the user does not
    actually know where files are. Even the Search facility is dodgy at telling
    you where the things are when it has found them.
     
  20. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
    news:-ONr%n.549721$rq1.364575@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com...
    > On 7/14/2010 2:39 PM, johnbee wrote:
    >>
    >> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:i1jm14$l5p$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:47:27 -0400, Tony wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair
    >>>> out. Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in
    >>>> the haystack.
    >>>
    >>> Rubbish.

    >>
    >> OK. Suppose a few days ago I wrote something in MS Word. I have just
    >> written an email message to a friend and I want to send what I wrote as
    >> an attachment. Tell me how easy it is to attach it.

    >
    > Well that would depend on how you write email. Do you use a email
    > program or a web interface (Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo, etc...)? Which one
    > you use is going to determine how easy or hard it may be.
    >


    There you are then. If the document file was easy to find (i.e. if the user
    knew where they were kept, or it was easy to find them (surely not by
    displaying full pathnames at the screen top like they used to - that would
    make it far too easy for the idiot users), it would not make a jot of
    difference what one was using. Of course I assume that many users are like
    me and use web mail and email software.

    The point of my question was to show that needing to know where a file is
    matters to users, and Win7 is bad at it.
     

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