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The Windows 7 Start Menu

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by PDFrank, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. PDFrank

    PDFrank Flightless Bird

    Does anyone actually PREFER this to the "classic" Windows Start Menu?

    I know there are third-party add-ons that will give me a "classic" Start
    Menu, but I'm going to work with the one I have for now.

    Maybe I'll figure out why the "new" way is 'better.'
     
  2. Tony

    Tony Flightless Bird

    The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair out.
    Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in the
    haystack.

    PDFrank wrote:

    > Does anyone actually PREFER this to the "classic" Windows Start Menu?
    >
    > I know there are third-party add-ons that will give me a "classic" Start
    > Menu, but I'm going to work with the one I have for now.
    >
    > Maybe I'll figure out why the "new" way is 'better.'


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  3. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 7/13/2010 9:47 PM, Tony wrote:
    > The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair out.
    > Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in the
    > haystack.


    You can't be that dumb...can you?
    Oops...you are!
    >
    > PDFrank wrote:
    >
    >> Does anyone actually PREFER this to the "classic" Windows Start Menu?
    >>
    >> I know there are third-party add-ons that will give me a "classic" Start
    >> Menu, but I'm going to work with the one I have for now.
    >>
    >> Maybe I'll figure out why the "new" way is 'better.'

    >
    > --
    > The Grandmaster of the CyberFROG
    >
    > Come get your ticket to CyberFROG city
    >
    > Nay, Art thou decideth playeth ye simpleton games. *Some* of us know proper
    > manners
    >
    > Very few. I used to take calls from *rank* noobs but got fired the first day
    > on the job for potty mouth,
    >
    > Hamster isn't a newsreader it's a mistake!
    >
    > El-Gonzo Jackson FROGS both me and Chuckcar
    >
    > Master Juba was a black man imitating a white man imitating a black man
    >
    > Using my technical prowess and computer abilities to answer questions beyond
    > the realm of understandability
    >
    > Regards Tony... Making usenet better for everyone everyday
    >
    >
     
  4. XS11E

    XS11E Flightless Bird

    PDFrank <pdfrank@some.com> wrote:

    > Does anyone actually PREFER this to the "classic" Windows Start
    > Menu?


    No, I don't like it at all. I use Classic Shell:
    http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/

    Without it, I would not run Windows 7, as a matter of fact, I dual
    booted Vista and Win7 and never ran WIn7 except to test various start
    menu fixes. Once I found Classic Shell I deleted Vista and have been
    fine with Windows 7 as my only OS.



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  5. Parko

    Parko Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:08:45 -0400, PDFrank scrawled:

    > Does anyone actually PREFER this to the "classic" Windows Start Menu?
    >
    > I know there are third-party add-ons that will give me a "classic" Start
    > Menu, but I'm going to work with the one I have for now.
    >
    > Maybe I'll figure out why the "new" way is 'better.'


    It is actually better once its tamed. Create a restore point and start
    fiddling, but take notes as you go.

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Customize-the-Start-menu



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  6. John Morrison

    John Morrison Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:08:45 -0400, PDFrank <pdfrank@some.com> wrote:

    >Does anyone actually PREFER this to the "classic" Windows Start Menu?


    I'm satisfied with the "Windows 7 Start Menu" to the extent that I
    haven't bothered removing it and I have no shortcuts on my desktop.

    I've dragged shortcuts to my favourite programmes to the Start Menu and
    find them conveniently available.

    >I know there are third-party add-ons that will give me a "classic" Start
    >Menu, but I'm going to work with the one I have for now.
    >
    >Maybe I'll figure out why the "new" way is 'better.'


    LOL, wish you luck.

    "How-To Geek" send out a free daily email with tips which you may be
    interested in subscribing to.

    This mornings email coincidently detailed how to:
    "Show the Classic “All Programs” Menu in the Start Menu in Windows 7"

    The second URL below will allow you to peruse their various tips without
    needing to subscribe to their free daily email.
    http://www.howtogeek.com/email-subscription/
    http://www.howtogeek.com/tag/windows-7/
    --

    John
     
  7. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:47:27 -0400, Tony wrote:

    > The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair
    > out. Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in
    > the haystack.


    Rubbish.
     
  8. Tom Lake

    Tom Lake Flightless Bird

    "PDFrank" <pdfrank@some.com> wrote in message
    news:4c3d1c34$0$3848$6d36acad@usenetnewsserver.com...
    > Does anyone actually PREFER this to the "classic" Windows Start Menu?
    >
    > I know there are third-party add-ons that will give me a "classic" Start
    > Menu, but I'm going to work with the one I have for now.
    >
    > Maybe I'll figure out why the "new" way is 'better.'


    I really don't understand why everyone makes such a fuss over
    a menu. The new one works, you can choose whatever program
    you want from it. What's so great about one over the other?
    I have no preference. It works, and that's good enough for me.
    If MS decides to change the menu format once again in Win 8,
    I'll adapt to that. I'm old enough to have been in on the first
    wave of microcomputers (that's what we called personal
    computers back then) and there was no standardization of
    anything. If you had ten software packages, you had ten different
    key layouts, ten different ways of getting help, ten different ways of
    exiting the program, etc. We had to be flexible! There wasn't even
    WordStar to standardize functions. Don't be a Luddite! Roll with
    the punches.

    Tom Lake
     
  9. Sunny Bard

    Sunny Bard Flightless Bird

    Tom Lake wrote:

    > I really don't understand why everyone makes such a fuss over
    > a menu.


    Because they like what they are familiar with, and they don't like the
    removal of choice.
     
  10. News123

    News123 Flightless Bird

    PDFrank wrote:
    > Does anyone actually PREFER this to the "classic" Windows Start Menu?
    >
    > I know there are third-party add-ons that will give me a "classic" Start
    > Menu, but I'm going to work with the one I have for now.
    >
    > Maybe I'll figure out why the "new" way is 'better.'



    I got used to it rather quickly.

    The anly thing I'm annoyed if is the fact,

    that clicking on shutdown shuts down without a confirmation dialogue.

    Why I don't like this?

    Next to toe shutdown button is the very small 'options' section, which
    you have to click

    if you want to
    - log in as other user
    - log off
    - suspend
    - hibernate


    It happened already several times to me, that I
    shut down my PC accidentally when I just anted to login as other user.

    I there were any trick for that I'd be glad.

    The rest of the start menu is IMHO mainly different, not worse.
     
  11. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    XS11E wrote:
    > PDFrank <pdfrank@some.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Does anyone actually PREFER this to the "classic" Windows Start
    >> Menu?

    >
    > No, I don't like it at all. I use Classic Shell:
    > http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/
    >
    > Without it, I would not run Windows 7, as a matter of fact, I dual
    > booted Vista and Win7 and never ran WIn7 except to test various start
    > menu fixes. Once I found Classic Shell I deleted Vista and have
    > been fine with Windows 7 as my only OS.


    Me, too. Due to a computer meltdown and subsequent replacement, I went
    directly from Windows 2000 to Windows 7 (an obvious step backward).
    You can imagine my joy when I discovered Classic Shell.
    --
    Crash

    English is not my native tongue; I'm an American.
     
  12. Bob Hatch

    Bob Hatch Flightless Bird

    On 7/14/2010 3:59 AM, News123 wrote:
    > PDFrank wrote:
    >> Does anyone actually PREFER this to the "classic" Windows Start Menu?
    >>
    >> I know there are third-party add-ons that will give me a "classic" Start
    >> Menu, but I'm going to work with the one I have for now.
    >>
    >> Maybe I'll figure out why the "new" way is 'better.'

    >
    >
    > I got used to it rather quickly.
    >
    > The anly thing I'm annoyed if is the fact,
    >
    > that clicking on shutdown shuts down without a confirmation dialogue.
    >
    > Why I don't like this?
    >
    > Next to toe shutdown button is the very small 'options' section, which
    > you have to click
    >
    > if you want to
    > - log in as other user
    > - log off
    > - suspend
    > - hibernate
    >
    >
    > It happened already several times to me, that I
    > shut down my PC accidentally when I just anted to login as other user.
    >
    > I there were any trick for that I'd be glad.
    >
    > The rest of the start menu is IMHO mainly different, not worse.


    Right click on the button and change it to the option you prefer.

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  13. Jeff Layman

    Jeff Layman Flightless Bird

    "Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
    news:i1jsl8$d5g$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
    > Tom Lake wrote:
    >
    >> I really don't understand why everyone makes such a fuss over
    >> a menu.

    >
    > Because they like what they are familiar with, and they don't like the
    > removal of choice.
    >


    Succinct and to the point, but you forgot to add that anything new should be
    an improvement on what it is replacing.

    --

    Jeff
     
  14. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:18:48 -0700, Bob Hatch wrote:

    > On 7/14/2010 3:59 AM, News123 wrote:
    >> PDFrank wrote:
    >>> Does anyone actually PREFER this to the "classic" Windows Start Menu?
    >>>
    >>> I know there are third-party add-ons that will give me a "classic" Start
    >>> Menu, but I'm going to work with the one I have for now.
    >>>
    >>> Maybe I'll figure out why the "new" way is 'better.'

    >>
    >>
    >> I got used to it rather quickly.
    >>
    >> The anly thing I'm annoyed if is the fact,
    >>
    >> that clicking on shutdown shuts down without a confirmation dialogue.
    >>
    >> Why I don't like this?
    >>
    >> Next to toe shutdown button is the very small 'options' section, which
    >> you have to click
    >>
    >> if you want to
    >> - log in as other user
    >> - log off
    >> - suspend
    >> - hibernate
    >>
    >>
    >> It happened already several times to me, that I
    >> shut down my PC accidentally when I just anted to login as other user.
    >>
    >> I there were any trick for that I'd be glad.
    >>
    >> The rest of the start menu is IMHO mainly different, not worse.

    >
    > Right click on the button and change it to the option you prefer.


    Nah, way too easy :)

    This thread seems to me to be a religious one, so I have nothing further to
    post here for fear that I'll offend someone (everyone?)

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  15. News123

    News123 Flightless Bird

    Bob Hatch wrote:
    >>
    >> that clicking on shutdown shuts down without a confirmation dialogue.
    >>
    >> Why I don't like this?
    >>
    >> Next to toe shutdown button is the very small 'options' section, which
    >> you have to click
    >>
    >> if you want to
    >> - log in as other user
    >> - log off
    >> - suspend
    >> - hibernate
    >>
    >>
    >> It happened already several times to me, that I
    >> shut down my PC accidentally when I just anted to login as other user.
    >>
    >> I there were any trick for that I'd be glad.
    >>
    >> The rest of the start menu is IMHO mainly different, not worse.

    >
    > Right click on the button and change it to the option you prefer.

    Thanks for this tip.

    Well I changed it now to lock screen.
    At least less annoying than an unvolontary shutdown.

    Still not very ergonomic in my opinion at last with a small screen and
    touchscreen / touchpen.

    I'd prefer to have two level menu, but one can't have everything :-(
     
  16. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:57:24 +0200, News123 wrote:

    > Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >>>> if you want to
    >>>> - log in as other user
    >>>> - log off
    >>>> - suspend
    >>>> - hibernate
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> It happened already several times to me, that I
    >>>> shut down my PC accidentally when I just anted to login as other user.
    >>>>
    >>>> I there were any trick for that I'd be glad.
    >>>>
    >>>> The rest of the start menu is IMHO mainly different, not worse.
    >>> Right click on the button and change it to the option you prefer.

    >>
    >> Nah, way too easy :)

    >
    > Believe it or not, I never thought about right clicking on this button.
    > It's not exactly what I was looking for, but already better than before.


    To be honest, although I have read about the option on the shut-down button
    before, I never thought of it either. I just couldn't resist the
    opportunity to inject some minor sarcasm :)

    >> This thread seems to me to be a religious one, so I have nothing further to
    >> post here for fear that I'll offend someone (everyone?)

    >
    > In this group it's very easy to offend and to be offended.
    > I read worse threads though.


    See the remark about minor sarcasm ;-)

    Since it is, ISTM, a matter of personal preference and not a factual
    matter, when opinions are so strong it's best to keep quiet - whether I
    agree with a particular individual or not...

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  17. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:i1jm14$l5p$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:47:27 -0400, Tony wrote:
    >
    >> The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair
    >> out. Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in
    >> the haystack.

    >
    > Rubbish.


    OK. Suppose a few days ago I wrote something in MS Word. I have just
    written an email message to a friend and I want to send what I wrote as an
    attachment. Tell me how easy it is to attach it.
     
  18. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    "Tony" wrote in message news:4C3D415F.F77E0BFA@TheDeli.Sandwich...

    The only thing the people will start doing is start pulling their hair out.
    Finding things in windows 7 is akin to looking for the needle in the
    haystack.

    Rubbish. Stop re-posting your twaddle. Or is this the only reply you can come up with?
     
  19. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    "Tony" wrote in message news:4C3E15ED.8C7219F2@TheDeli.Sandwich...

    You just keep on dreaming in your may believe world of windows 7. Falling for
    microshit's snowjob that it's good. Yeah, good for nuthin'.

    So post some EVIDENCE instead of random rantings...
     
  20. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    news:1773gq42x0sg$.1cgf1v8zhbxjk$.dlg@40tude.net...
    > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:57:24 +0200, News123 wrote:
    >
    >> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >>>>> if you want to
    >>>>> - log in as other user
    >>>>> - log off
    >>>>> - suspend
    >>>>> - hibernate
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It happened already several times to me, that I
    >>>>> shut down my PC accidentally when I just anted to login as other user.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I there were any trick for that I'd be glad.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The rest of the start menu is IMHO mainly different, not worse.
    >>>> Right click on the button and change it to the option you prefer.
    >>>
    >>> Nah, way too easy :)

    >>
    >> Believe it or not, I never thought about right clicking on this button.
    >> It's not exactly what I was looking for, but already better than before.

    >
    > To be honest, although I have read about the option on the shut-down
    > button
    > before, I never thought of it either. I just couldn't resist the
    > opportunity to inject some minor sarcasm :)
    >
    >>> This thread seems to me to be a religious one, so I have nothing further
    >>> to
    >>> post here for fear that I'll offend someone (everyone?)

    >>
    >> In this group it's very easy to offend and to be offended.
    >> I read worse threads though.

    >
    > See the remark about minor sarcasm ;-)
    >
    > Since it is, ISTM, a matter of personal preference and not a factual
    > matter, when opinions are so strong it's best to keep quiet - whether I
    > agree with a particular individual or not...
    >
    > --
    > Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)


    As a matter of opinion, I think that Windows 7 is very configurable but in
    rather odd ways, and it is not all that easy and obvious to find out that
    things can be changed.

    Just as an example, and to show how easy it is to get hold of the wrong end
    of the stick, the help in Win 7 on this actual subject goes on about what
    happens when you 'press the power button'. What happens on my PC when I
    press the power button is that it switches it off when it's on and on when
    it's off (toggles on/off to use a coinage) . I had the damn thing a couple
    of weeks before I realised that they did not mean press the power button,.
    they meant click on the shut down button (strictly speaking, left click it)
    when the PC is on. I realise that they can't call it the shut down button
    but power button is not the correct nomenclature unless they caption it
    power, which would be daft, but that should have made them realise the
    mistake.
     

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