The End Is Near

[DanS]

"Frank Drew Leyda" <mymail@nothere.com> wrote in
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> "Greg Russell" <grussell@example.con> wrote in message
> news:84dkhsFf1uU1@mid.individual.net...
>> In newsAOrr0E7KHA.3196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
>> Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> typed:
>>
>>>>> so we have a limited time to insult vista .....
>>>>
>>>> M$ Vista was named as one of "The Top Ten Technological
>>>> Disasters of the 21st Century" ...
>>>
>>> http://.../the-top-10-it-disasters-of-all-time/...
>>
>> The 21st century most certainly doesn't comprise the sum
>> totat of time, even
>> in technological terms.
> ****************************************************
> Remember the Beta video tapes ?

You mean the Betamax video tape format which was superior to VHS
in every way except total recording time ?

That was far from a technological disaster.

 

[FDLeyda]

>>>
>>> The 21st century most certainly doesn't comprise the sum
>>> totat of time, even
>>> in technological terms.
>> ****************************************************
>> Remember the Beta video tapes ?
>
> You mean the Betamax video tape format which was superior to VHS
> in every way except total recording time ?
>
> That was far from a technological disaster.
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How far ?
Or maybe I should ask "How many minutes ?"




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[shakey]

"FDLeyda" <fdleyda@no_reply.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> The 21st century most certainly doesn't comprise the sum
>>>> totat of time, even
>>>> in technological terms.
>>> ****************************************************
>>> Remember the Beta video tapes ?
>>
>> You mean the Betamax video tape format which was superior to VHS in every
>> way except total recording time ?
>>
>> That was far from a technological disaster.
> ***************************************************************************
> How far ?
> Or maybe I should ask "How many minutes ?"
>
One hour total recording time was maximum.
SG

 

[LD5SZRA]

Gordon wrote:
>

>
> but I posted THREE responses to the same post
> with a website containing a solution to a question on whether it was
> possible to install an Upgrade version of Windows 7 without a qualifying
> version of Windows being present and ALL THREE were deleted arbitrarily by a
> certain "MVP" "Moderator"....

You ain't seen nothing yet boy. Carey Frisch [Microsoft Valuable
Pig] is in charge and unless you lick his ass regularly (not that
you are not licking now but you have to do it more and better),
your posts would be deleted automatically.

hth

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[LD5SZRA]

Michael wrote:
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> ...and if I'd posted this to a forum it never would've been seen.
> --
>


Because no one would miss you or your post!

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[LD5SZRA]

Gordon wrote:
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<http/groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.office.misc/browse_thread/thread/4a1085031376b996/1c59d0d1d1b6f548?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=The+End+Is+Near#1c59d0d1d1b6f548>

> So it may . That's a very grey area. Surely it was firstly up to the Op to
> use his/her conscience, and secondly, but most importantly the "mvp
> moderator" should have posted REASONS why it possibly violated the licensing
> agreement - and not just arbitrarily delete posts.....
>
>

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[LD5SZRA]

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Michael wrote:
>

> ...and if I'd posted this to a forum it never would've been seen.
> --
>


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[Ben M. Schorr, MVP]

Well surely a newsgroup veteran like yourself knows full well that MVPs are
not Microsoft employees. If an MVP decided to delete your post then that
was an individual's decision.

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"Gordon" <gordon.burgessparker@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Seems that "solution" would be implicitly promoting a violation of the
>> licensing agreement.
>
> So it may . That's a very grey area. Surely it was firstly up to the Op to
> use his/her conscience, and secondly, but most importantly the "mvp
> moderator" should have posted REASONS why it possibly violated the
> licensing agreement - and not just arbitrarily delete posts.....
>
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>

 

[Ben M. Schorr, MVP]

Well, miraculously, to the best of my knowledge, none of my 2,000+ forum
posts (a great many of which direct people to non-Microsoft
answers/solutions) have been deleted.

Actually, that's not true...*I* deleted one of my posts once when, just
after posting it, I realized I had misread the question and given an
incorrect answer. I then reposted with what I believed to be a better
answer.

Otherwise...

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"Tom Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
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> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23OgUIGE8KHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> :
> :
>
> : Seems that "solution" would be implicitly promoting a violation of the
> : licensing agreement. I don't think that constitutes "arbitrary", does
> it?
>
> People are going to be shocked at how much will be deleted in the forums.
>
>

 

[Gordon]

"Ben M. Schorr, MVP" <bens@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
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> Well surely a newsgroup veteran like yourself knows full well that MVPs
> are not Microsoft employees. If an MVP decided to delete your post then
> that was an individual's decision.
>

But that's the whole point - it was an INDIVIDUAL, ARBITRARY decision.
NO-ONE should be allowed to delete posts.

 

[Gordon]

"Ben M. Schorr, MVP" <bens@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
news:C771F472-B1E1-4444-B2AE-1D2A16E1772A@microsoft.com...
> Well surely a newsgroup veteran like yourself knows full well that MVPs
> are not Microsoft employees. If an MVP decided to delete your post then
> that was an individual's decision.
>

In addition, posts can and should be deleted IF they are racist, abusive etc
etc. Mine certainly was NOT.

 

[Tom Willett]

It's gonna be a whole new ballgame, Gordon. All you can do is get used to
it.

Tom
"Gordon" <gordon.burgessparker@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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:
: "Ben M. Schorr, MVP" <bens@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
: news:C771F472-B1E1-4444-B2AE-1D2A16E1772A@microsoft.com...
: > Well surely a newsgroup veteran like yourself knows full well that MVPs
: > are not Microsoft employees. If an MVP decided to delete your post then
: > that was an individual's decision.
: >
:
: But that's the whole point - it was an INDIVIDUAL, ARBITRARY decision.
: NO-ONE should be allowed to delete posts.
:

 

[Tim Slattery]

"Gordon" <gordon.burgessparker@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Ben M. Schorr, MVP" <bens@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
>news:C771F472-B1E1-4444-B2AE-1D2A16E1772A@microsoft.com...
>> Well surely a newsgroup veteran like yourself knows full well that MVPs
>> are not Microsoft employees. If an MVP decided to delete your post then
>> that was an individual's decision.
>>
>
>But that's the whole point - it was an INDIVIDUAL, ARBITRARY decision.
>NO-ONE should be allowed to delete posts.

I was an MVP for something like 12 years, and I can tell you that MVPs
CANNOT delete posts. Whatever happened to you, it was NOT an MVP
deleting your post.

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[Tom Willett]

"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
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: "Gordon" <gordon.burgessparker@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
:
: >
: >"Ben M. Schorr, MVP" <bens@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
: >news:C771F472-B1E1-4444-B2AE-1D2A16E1772A@microsoft.com...
: >> Well surely a newsgroup veteran like yourself knows full well that MVPs
: >> are not Microsoft employees. If an MVP decided to delete your post
then
: >> that was an individual's decision.
: >>
: >
: >But that's the whole point - it was an INDIVIDUAL, ARBITRARY decision.
: >NO-ONE should be allowed to delete posts.
:
: I was an MVP for something like 12 years, and I can tell you that MVPs
: CANNOT delete posts. Whatever happened to you, it was NOT an MVP
: deleting your post.
:

If the MVP is a moderator, he would be deleting it.
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[Steve Rindsberg]

> I was an MVP for something like 12 years, and I can tell you that MVPs
> CANNOT delete posts. Whatever happened to you, it was NOT an MVP
> deleting your post.

This is true of newsgroups like this. It's not necessarily true of the new
forums that Gordon's talking about, if I'm not mistaken. Moderators there,
some of whom are MVPs, can delete posts.

If moderators are deleting posts simply because they're critical of MS, then
there probably won't be many MVP+moderators left after a short while.

 

[Tom Willett]

:
: This is true of newsgroups like this. It's not necessarily true of the
new
: forums that Gordon's talking about, if I'm not mistaken. Moderators
there,
: some of whom are MVPs, can delete posts.

:
: If moderators are deleting posts simply because they're critical of MS,
then
: there probably won't be many MVP+moderators left after a short while.

Perhaps the MS guidelines allow for it. At this point, it's all
second-guessing. Only MS and the Moderators know for sure.

:
:
:

 

[Tim Slattery]

"Tom Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote:


>If the MVP is a moderator, he would be deleting it.

These groups are not moderated. MS has filtering software that blocks
out spam. They don't tell anybody exactly how it works and exactly
what's filtered, definitely not MVPs.

Some MS employee(s) somewhere has (have) power to delete postings on
msnews.microsoft.com. Definitely NOT MVPs (who are not MS employees).

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[Tim Slattery]

Steve Rindsberg <abuse@localhost.com> wrote:

>This is true of newsgroups like this. It's not necessarily true of the new
>forums that Gordon's talking about, if I'm not mistaken. Moderators there,
>some of whom are MVPs, can delete posts.

OK, I know nothing about the forums. I accept what you say.

>If moderators are deleting posts simply because they're critical of MS, then
>there probably won't be many MVP+moderators left after a short while.

I'd certainly agree with that!

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[Tom Willett]

We're talking about the new forums, not these nntp groups.
"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
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: "Tom Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote:
:
:
: >If the MVP is a moderator, he would be deleting it.
:
: These groups are not moderated. MS has filtering software that blocks
: out spam. They don't tell anybody exactly how it works and exactly
: what's filtered, definitely not MVPs.
:
: Some MS employee(s) somewhere has (have) power to delete postings on
: msnews.microsoft.com. Definitely NOT MVPs (who are not MS employees).
:
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[LD5SZRA]

Gordon wrote:
>

> In addition, posts can and should be deleted IF they are racist, abusive etc
> etc. Mine certainly was NOT.


No but you are encouraging people to break the licensing terms
resulting in Micro$hit losing revenues at a time when software
sales is very much down due to economic mismanagement of your
elected leaders!

hth

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