The End Is Near

[Greg Russell]

In news:4be0b361@news.x-privat.org,
Mr Baracuda <baracuda@slim.ws> typed:

> so we have a limited time to insult vista .....

M$ Vista was named as one of "The Top Ten Technological Disasters of the
21st Century" (so far, at least) in a recent Yahoo! news article, voted as
such by the overwhelming majority of computing and technology news editors
in the world that contributed to the vote.

 

[LD5SZRA]

I guess removing Newsgroup support would surpass that! And also
not supporting IE9 on Windows XP would give rivals an excellent
opportunity to catch up!

hth

Greg Russell wrote:
>

> M$ Vista was named as one of "The Top Ten Technological Disasters of the
> 21st Century" (so far, at least) in a recent Yahoo! news article, voted as
> such by the overwhelming majority of computing and technology news editors
> in the world that contributed to the vote.

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[Bob I]

Greg Russell wrote:

> In news:4be0b361@news.x-privat.org,
> Mr Baracuda <baracuda@slim.ws> typed:
>
>
>>so we have a limited time to insult vista .....
>
>
> M$ Vista was named as one of "The Top Ten Technological Disasters of the
> 21st Century" (so far, at least) in a recent Yahoo! news article, voted as
> such by the overwhelming majority of computing and technology news editors
> in the world that contributed to the vote.
>

http://www.zdnet.com/news/the-top-10-it-disasters-of-all-time/177729

 

[Frank Drew Leyda]

I don't have an opinion about Newsgroups versa Forums but

> Microsoft continues to invest in forums to reduce customer effort,
> consolidate community venues and make it easier for active contributors to
> retain their influence. Forums provide a healthy community environment
> with less spam and make answers easier to find by customers and search
> engines.
*******************************************************
Why less spam and easier to find....... ?

> Additionally, forums offer a better user and off-topic management platform
> that will improve customer > satisfaction by facilitating discussions in a
> clean space.
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What do they mean by a "clean space" ?

 

[Greg Russell]

In newsAOrr0E7KHA.3196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> typed:

>>> so we have a limited time to insult vista .....
>>
>> M$ Vista was named as one of "The Top Ten Technological Disasters
>> of the 21st Century" ...
>
> http://.../the-top-10-it-disasters-of-all-time/...

The 21st century most certainly doesn't comprise the sum totat of time, even
in technological terms.

 

[Frank Drew Leyda]

"Greg Russell" <grussell@example.con> wrote in message
news:84dkhsFf1uU1@mid.individual.net...
> In newsAOrr0E7KHA.3196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
> Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> typed:
>
>>>> so we have a limited time to insult vista .....
>>>
>>> M$ Vista was named as one of "The Top Ten Technological Disasters
>>> of the 21st Century" ...
>>
>> http://.../the-top-10-it-disasters-of-all-time/...
>
> The 21st century most certainly doesn't comprise the sum totat of time,
> even
> in technological terms.
****************************************************
Remember the Beta video tapes ?

 

[Mr Baracuda]

it's a miracle that they were actually able to take that buggy horrible code
and streamline it enough to make windows7 actually usable!

Of course it needed more effort and man hours that building the great
pyramid

but they were under the whip of Balmer...

"Code slaves, Code!!!!! <sound of whip lashing>... or microsoft is going
down with all you in it!"





"Greg Russell" <grussell@example.con> wrote in message
news:84cbueFt0hU1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:4be0b361@news.x-privat.org,
> Mr Baracuda <baracuda@slim.ws> typed:
>
>> so we have a limited time to insult vista .....
>
> M$ Vista was named as one of "The Top Ten Technological Disasters of the
> 21st Century" (so far, at least) in a recent Yahoo! news article, voted as
> such by the overwhelming majority of computing and technology news editors
> in the world that contributed to the vote.
>
>

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

"Frank Drew Leyda" <mymail@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:uRFuRVG7KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Why less spam and easier to find....... ?

Well for one thing Google indexes it with its web search, so now you won't
need to know about Google Groups to search archived threads.


> What do they mean by a "clean space" ?

It's expected to be more moderated than MS newsgroups were.

 

[Ben M. Schorr, MVP]

>> 'Forums are also moderated by Microsoft to ensure content is
>> accurate and to encourage richer conversations.'
>
> | sed -e 's|moderated|arbitrarily censored|' \
> -e 's|content is accurate|propoganda is as intended|' \
> -e 's|conversations|M$ revenue streams|'

Please cite an example of Microsoft censoring a post in the forums for
propaganda reasons.


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[Gordon]

"Ben M. Schorr, MVP" <bens@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
news:#AEjSS77KHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Please cite an example of Microsoft censoring a post in the forums for
> propaganda reasons.
>

Don't know about propaganda, but I posted THREE responses to the same post
with a website containing a solution to a question on whether it was
possible to install an Upgrade version of Windows 7 without a qualifying
version of Windows being present and ALL THREE were deleted arbitrarily by a
certain "MVP" "Moderator"....

 

[Bob I]

Gordon wrote:

>
> "Ben M. Schorr, MVP" <bens@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
> news:#AEjSS77KHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>> Please cite an example of Microsoft censoring a post in the forums for
>> propaganda reasons.
>>
>
> Don't know about propaganda, but I posted THREE responses to the same
> post with a website containing a solution to a question on whether it
> was possible to install an Upgrade version of Windows 7 without a
> qualifying version of Windows being present and ALL THREE were deleted
> arbitrarily by a certain "MVP" "Moderator"....

Seems that "solution" would be implicitly promoting a violation of the
licensing agreement. I don't think that constitutes "arbitrary", does it?

 

[Tom Willett]

"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23OgUIGE8KHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
:
:

: Seems that "solution" would be implicitly promoting a violation of the
: licensing agreement. I don't think that constitutes "arbitrary", does it?

People are going to be shocked at how much will be deleted in the forums.

 

[Gordon]

"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:#OgUIGE8KHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> Seems that "solution" would be implicitly promoting a violation of the
> licensing agreement.

So it may . That's a very grey area. Surely it was firstly up to the Op to
use his/her conscience, and secondly, but most importantly the "mvp
moderator" should have posted REASONS why it possibly violated the licensing
agreement - and not just arbitrarily delete posts.....

 

[Tom Willett]

: So it may . That's a very grey area. Surely it was firstly up to the Op to
: use his/her conscience, and secondly, but most importantly the "mvp
: moderator" should have posted REASONS why it possibly violated the
licensing
: agreement - and not just arbitrarily delete posts.....

You need to get used to it. There will be more and more deletions and they
won't owe anyone an explanation. This is going to be a whole new ballgame.
There will be many posters who, over the years, have been vicious, posting
diatribe, senseless comments, cursing, condescension, patronizing...that is
going to be history.

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[Gordon]

"Tom Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
news8gsYnE8KHA.5808@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> There will be many posters who, over the years, have been vicious, posting
> diatribe, senseless comments, cursing, condescension, patronizing...that
> is
> going to be history.
>

And a good thing too. But deleting legitimate posts on the "whim" of a
"moderator"?

 

[Michael]

"Tom Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
news8gsYnE8KHA.5808@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> : So it may . That's a very grey area. Surely it was firstly up to the Op
> to
> : use his/her conscience, and secondly, but most importantly the "mvp
> : moderator" should have posted REASONS why it possibly violated the
> licensing
> : agreement - and not just arbitrarily delete posts.....
>
> You need to get used to it. There will be more and more deletions and they
> won't owe anyone an explanation. This is going to be a whole new ballgame.
> There will be many posters who, over the years, have been vicious, posting
> diatribe, senseless comments, cursing, condescension, patronizing...that
> is
> going to be history.

So the "My Computer is Broke" morons will win because the post will be
considered non-abrasive? This has clusterfu@k written all over it! The
MVP's and regular responders will all be in therapy after a few months of
that constant abuse and the M$ forums will turn into chat rooms for the
mentally disabled.
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"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

 

[Tom Willett]

: So the "My Computer is Broke" morons will win because the post will be
: considered non-abrasive? This has clusterfu@k written all over it! The
: MVP's and regular responders will all be in therapy after a few months of
: that constant abuse and the M$ forums will turn into chat rooms for the
: mentally disabled.
: --
The "My Computer is Broke" morons will probably have difficulty in even
finding the forums. There will be some MVPs and regular responders who will
not migrate to the forums.

 

[Michael]

"Tom Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
news:uVpUfGF8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> : So the "My Computer is Broke" morons will win because the post will be
> : considered non-abrasive? This has clusterfu@k written all over it! The
> : MVP's and regular responders will all be in therapy after a few months
> of
> : that constant abuse and the M$ forums will turn into chat rooms for the
> : mentally disabled.
> : --
> The "My Computer is Broke" morons will probably have difficulty in even
> finding the forums. There will be some MVPs and regular responders who
> will
> not migrate to the forums.

That's where you're wrong. They can't find Google, "any key" or the off/on
switch, but I'll be damned if they can't find M$ forums, Techarena,
Vistaheads or Egghead.
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"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

 

[Tom Willett]

:
: That's where you're wrong. They can't find Google, "any key" or the
off/on
: switch, but I'll be damned if they can't find M$ forums, Techarena,
: Vistaheads or Egghead.
: --

ROFL! You make a strong point!
:
:
: "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
: If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
:
:

 

[Michael]

"Tom Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
newsMgu0nF8KHA.644@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> :
> : That's where you're wrong. They can't find Google, "any key" or the
> off/on
> : switch, but I'll be damned if they can't find M$ forums, Techarena,
> : Vistaheads or Egghead.
> : --
>
> ROFL! You make a strong point!

....and if I'd posted this to a forum it never would've been seen.
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