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Taskbar cannot be seen in high resolution LCD monitor

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Beyond X, Jul 10, 2010.

  1. Beyond X

    Beyond X Flightless Bird

    As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    (23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing.
    Annoyed with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the
    highest, 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the
    aspect ratio significantly. The problem that I now face is disappearance
    of the Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical position as high
    as possible, but it does not make the taskbar reappear.
    (If I lower the monitor's resolution to or below 1600x1200, the taskbar
    reappears, but the images are distorted.)
    Can anyone help me?
     
  2. Robert Kochem

    Robert Kochem Flightless Bird

    Beyond X schrieb:

    > As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    > images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    > (23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing.
    > Annoyed with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the
    > highest, 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the
    > aspect ratio significantly. The problem that I now face is disappearance
    > of the Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical position as high
    > as possible, but it does not make the taskbar reappear.


    Sounds like you are using a VGA cable if you can change the vertical
    position. Using a VGA cable is a bad idea, especially on the high
    resolutions. Connect the monitor with you PC using a DVI-D or HDMI cable -
    everything else will just look terrible.

    Win-J
     
  3. Beyond X

    Beyond X Flightless Bird

    Thanks for suggestion. This brings up another problem I have to ask for
    a solution about. For unknown reason(s) the DVI-I or DVI-D connection
    does not work in my system, that is, when connection to the monitor is
    switched to DVI, the monitor shows blank/black screen as if a monitor is
    not connected to the computer (WinXP Home SP2). My video card is
    PCI-express Diamond Radeon HD4350 with both VGA and DVI connector.

    Robert Kochem wrote:
    > Beyond X schrieb:
    >
    >
    >>As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    >>images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    >>(23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing.
    >>Annoyed with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the
    >>highest, 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the
    >>aspect ratio significantly. The problem that I now face is disappearance
    >>of the Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical position as high
    >>as possible, but it does not make the taskbar reappear.

    >
    >
    > Sounds like you are using a VGA cable if you can change the vertical
    > position. Using a VGA cable is a bad idea, especially on the high
    > resolutions. Connect the monitor with you PC using a DVI-D or HDMI cable -
    > everything else will just look terrible.
    >
    > Win-J
     
  4. Elmo

    Elmo Flightless Bird

    Beyond X wrote:
    > As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    > images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    > (23" diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing.
    > Annoyed with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the
    > highest, 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the
    > aspect ratio significantly. The problem that I now face is disappearance
    > of the Windows taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical position as high
    > as possible, but it does not make the taskbar reappear.
    > (If I lower the monitor's resolution to or below 1600x1200, the taskbar
    > reappears, but the images are distorted.)
    > Can anyone help me?


    That monitor has a 16:9 aspect ratio.
    http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/...r/LS23CMZKFV/XY/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail

    Some resolutions with that ratio would be 1920 x 1080, as mentioned on
    the support page, 1600 x 900, 1280 x 720, and maybe others. If your
    graphics card doesn't have any of these resolutions, try updating the
    drivers for the card. If the needed resolutions still aren't available,
    you need a better graphics card taht supports these screen
    resolutions/ratios.

    --

    Joe =o)
     
  5. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 00:07:38 -0600, Beyond X <donotmail@nomail.com>
    wrote:

    > As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    > images (a circle appears as an ellipse).



    No. They only do that if you run at a resolution with the incorrect
    aspect ratio.


    > I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    > (23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing.
    > Annoyed with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the
    > highest, 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the
    > aspect ratio significantly.



    That's the wrong aspect ratio. It's 4:3. You should run your
    wide-screen monitor at a 16:9 aspect ratio.

    I also have (two) 23" monitors on this computer, and they both run at
    1920x1080, a 16:9 aspect ratio. Nothing is distorted and circles do
    not appear as ellipses.

    Perhaps you have an older video card that does not support 16:9 aspect
    ratio resolutions.

    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  6. Spamlet

    Spamlet Flightless Bird

    "Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    news:4C395FAA.9010104@nomail.com...
    > As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    > images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    > (23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing. Annoyed
    > with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the highest,
    > 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the aspect ratio
    > significantly. The problem that I now face is disappearance of the
    > Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical position as high as
    > possible, but it does not make the taskbar reappear.
    > (If I lower the monitor's resolution to or below 1600x1200, the taskbar
    > reappears, but the images are distorted.)
    > Can anyone help me?


    I have a similar problem on our Dell desktop system (XPPro SP3).
    With the screen comfortable, photos appear too tall, but if this is
    corrected by setting the screen to Dell's 'optimum', all the Windows
    features are too small to use. Numerous goes at finding better fits always
    had some drawback - like there not being options for some of the features in
    the desktop display settings: so I just got used to the taller appearance of
    my pics in the end, and held back on the resizes.

    S
     
  7. Robert Kochem

    Robert Kochem Flightless Bird

    Beyond X wrote:

    > Thanks for suggestion. This brings up another problem I have to ask for
    > a solution about. For unknown reason(s) the DVI-I or DVI-D connection
    > does not work in my system, that is, when connection to the monitor is
    > switched to DVI, the monitor shows blank/black screen as if a monitor is
    > not connected to the computer (WinXP Home SP2).


    May be the DVI cable is defect or your Monitor misinterprets the signal. My
    old graphics card used to send a signal with a refresh rate of ~59.9999Hz.
    If screws on the DVI connectors were not 100% tighten the Monitor did not
    display anything because the minimum refresh rate supported is 60Hz...

    Robert
     
  8. Beyond X

    Beyond X Flightless Bird

    Thanks a lot for information.
    My video card is Diamond Radeon HD4350 PCIe (512M8) which I purchased
    very recently and which offers several resolutions but the aspect ratio
    is all 4:3.
    I ended up to install a fresh copy of XP in a new partition. For the
    videocard, I downloaded newer drivers, which indeed offered several
    resolutions corresponding to aspect ratio 16:9. Also I have the taskbar
    at its normal position (bottom of the screen) even with the highest
    resolution.
    Only problem I still have is this: My XP is SP2 and I am unable to
    upgrade to SP3 even though automatic update has been on. What am I missing?
    Thanks again to all folks from the bottom of my heart.
    BeyondX


    I thought that the aspect ratios were a design character of individual
    cards (hardware) and that the design of such a new card must have
    considered wide screen monitors like mine until I learned from you that
    it is changeable by drivers (software). So I was encouraged and visited
    Diamond's website and attempted to update drivers for this
    particular card.

    Beyond X wrote:
    > As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    > images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    > (23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing.
    > Annoyed with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the
    > highest, 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the
    > aspect ratio significantly. The problem that I now face is disappearance
    > of the Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical position as high
    > as possible, but it does not make the taskbar reappear.
    > (If I lower the monitor's resolution to or below 1600x1200, the taskbar
    > reappears, but the images are distorted.)
    > Can anyone help me?
     
  9. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    What happens when you manually try to update?
    "Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    news:4C3B7D3F.7070000@nomail.com...
    > Thanks a lot for information.
    > My video card is Diamond Radeon HD4350 PCIe (512M8) which I purchased very
    > recently and which offers several resolutions but the aspect ratio is all
    > 4:3.
    > I ended up to install a fresh copy of XP in a new partition. For the
    > videocard, I downloaded newer drivers, which indeed offered several
    > resolutions corresponding to aspect ratio 16:9. Also I have the taskbar at
    > its normal position (bottom of the screen) even with the highest
    > resolution.
    > Only problem I still have is this: My XP is SP2 and I am unable to upgrade
    > to SP3 even though automatic update has been on. What am I missing?
    > Thanks again to all folks from the bottom of my heart.
    > BeyondX
    >
    >
    > I thought that the aspect ratios were a design character of individual
    > cards (hardware) and that the design of such a new card must have
    > considered wide screen monitors like mine until I learned from you that it
    > is changeable by drivers (software). So I was encouraged and visited
    > Diamond's website and attempted to update drivers for this
    > particular card.
    >
    > Beyond X wrote:
    >> As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    >> images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    >> (23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing. Annoyed
    >> with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the highest,
    >> 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the aspect ratio
    >> significantly. The problem that I now face is disappearance of the
    >> Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical position as high as
    >> possible, but it does not make the taskbar reappear.
    >> (If I lower the monitor's resolution to or below 1600x1200, the taskbar
    >> reappears, but the images are distorted.)
    >> Can anyone help me?
     
  10. Paul

    Paul Flightless Bird

    Beyond X wrote:
    > Thanks a lot for information.
    > My video card is Diamond Radeon HD4350 PCIe (512M8) which I purchased
    > very recently and which offers several resolutions but the aspect ratio
    > is all 4:3.
    > I ended up to install a fresh copy of XP in a new partition. For the
    > videocard, I downloaded newer drivers, which indeed offered several
    > resolutions corresponding to aspect ratio 16:9. Also I have the taskbar
    > at its normal position (bottom of the screen) even with the highest
    > resolution.
    > Only problem I still have is this: My XP is SP2 and I am unable to
    > upgrade to SP3 even though automatic update has been on. What am I missing?
    > Thanks again to all folks from the bottom of my heart.
    > BeyondX
    >
    >
    > I thought that the aspect ratios were a design character of individual
    > cards (hardware) and that the design of such a new card must have
    > considered wide screen monitors like mine until I learned from you that
    > it is changeable by drivers (software). So I was encouraged and visited
    > Diamond's website and attempted to update drivers for this
    > particular card.
    >


    The video resolution is fully programmable, to arbitrary X and Y.
    Typical rules are, the X value must be divisible by 8, and the
    Y value must be divisible by 2. The driver normally does the programming
    of this, but there are other options.

    If the driver does not support the correct resolution, you have two
    options.

    1) Sometimes, the display control panel has a "custom resolution" box,
    where you can add a new value.

    2) You can use Powerstrip from entechtaiwan.com .

    http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm

    3) Using a new driver (which worked for you).

    If the monitor is 16:9, then for a circle to be a circle,
    the video card resolution choice must also be in a ratio of
    16:9.

    In some cases, the X_offset and Y_offset values for
    the video image, need to be adjusted, for the image to be
    centered on the monitor screen. As an example, if I boot
    a Linux CD, the image is offset a bit from the proper
    position. The clock in the corner of the screen, isn't fully
    visible, because of the offset error. If I install the
    Nvidia Linux (tainted) driver, the offsets to the edges
    of the screen are perfect. The display control panel
    of an OS, may also offer adjustments for positional offset.

    For weird resolution choices, sometimes the video card
    will fill unused regions with "black bars", and there
    may be an option such as "preserve aspect ratio" or the like.
    I don't recommend such a setting - on my computer here,
    that resulted in the LCD monitor on-screen display reporting
    "out of range" for the video output, so no image at all was
    rendered. YMMV.

    Paul
     
  11. Beyond X

    Beyond X Flightless Bird

    If you meant to tinker settings in device manager, I don't know how I
    can change the resolution numbers (aspect ratio). I just had believed
    that resolution numbers were predetermined at the hardware desin stage,
    that is, I did not know they can be changed by software (drivers) that
    can be downloaded afterwards.
    Beyond X

    Unknown wrote:
    > What happens when you manually try to update?
    > "Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    > news:4C3B7D3F.7070000@nomail.com...
    >
    >>Thanks a lot for information.
    >>My video card is Diamond Radeon HD4350 PCIe (512M8) which I purchased very
    >>recently and which offers several resolutions but the aspect ratio is all
    >>4:3.
    >>I ended up to install a fresh copy of XP in a new partition. For the
    >>videocard, I downloaded newer drivers, which indeed offered several
    >>resolutions corresponding to aspect ratio 16:9. Also I have the taskbar at
    >>its normal position (bottom of the screen) even with the highest
    >>resolution.
    >>Only problem I still have is this: My XP is SP2 and I am unable to upgrade
    >>to SP3 even though automatic update has been on. What am I missing?
    >>Thanks again to all folks from the bottom of my heart.
    >>BeyondX
    >>
    >>
    >>I thought that the aspect ratios were a design character of individual
    >>cards (hardware) and that the design of such a new card must have
    >>considered wide screen monitors like mine until I learned from you that it
    >>is changeable by drivers (software). So I was encouraged and visited
    >>Diamond's website and attempted to update drivers for this
    >>particular card.
    >>
    >>Beyond X wrote:
    >>
    >>>As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    >>>images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    >>>(23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing. Annoyed
    >>>with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the highest,
    >>>1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the aspect ratio
    >>>significantly. The problem that I now face is disappearance of the
    >>>Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical position as high as
    >>>possible, but it does not make the taskbar reappear.
    >>>(If I lower the monitor's resolution to or below 1600x1200, the taskbar
    >>>reappears, but the images are distorted.)
    >>>Can anyone help me?

    >
    >
    >
     
  12. Beyond X

    Beyond X Flightless Bird

    Thanks for detailed explanation and educational instruction. Although I
    solved my problem by downloading updated drivers, your response
    enlightened my understanding how display works.
    Beyond X

    Paul wrote:
    > Beyond X wrote:
    >
    >> Thanks a lot for information.
    >> My video card is Diamond Radeon HD4350 PCIe (512M8) which I purchased
    >> very recently and which offers several resolutions but the aspect
    >> ratio is all 4:3.
    >> I ended up to install a fresh copy of XP in a new partition. For the
    >> videocard, I downloaded newer drivers, which indeed offered several
    >> resolutions corresponding to aspect ratio 16:9. Also I have the
    >> taskbar at its normal position (bottom of the screen) even with the
    >> highest resolution.
    >> Only problem I still have is this: My XP is SP2 and I am unable to
    >> upgrade to SP3 even though automatic update has been on. What am I
    >> missing?
    >> Thanks again to all folks from the bottom of my heart.
    >> BeyondX
    >>
    >>
    >> I thought that the aspect ratios were a design character of individual
    >> cards (hardware) and that the design of such a new card must have
    >> considered wide screen monitors like mine until I learned from you
    >> that it is changeable by drivers (software). So I was encouraged and
    >> visited Diamond's website and attempted to update drivers for
    >> this particular card.
    >>

    >
    > The video resolution is fully programmable, to arbitrary X and Y.
    > Typical rules are, the X value must be divisible by 8, and the
    > Y value must be divisible by 2. The driver normally does the programming
    > of this, but there are other options.
    >
    > If the driver does not support the correct resolution, you have two
    > options.
    >
    > 1) Sometimes, the display control panel has a "custom resolution" box,
    > where you can add a new value.
    >
    > 2) You can use Powerstrip from entechtaiwan.com .
    >
    > http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm
    >
    > 3) Using a new driver (which worked for you).
    >
    > If the monitor is 16:9, then for a circle to be a circle,
    > the video card resolution choice must also be in a ratio of
    > 16:9.
    >
    > In some cases, the X_offset and Y_offset values for
    > the video image, need to be adjusted, for the image to be
    > centered on the monitor screen. As an example, if I boot
    > a Linux CD, the image is offset a bit from the proper
    > position. The clock in the corner of the screen, isn't fully
    > visible, because of the offset error. If I install the
    > Nvidia Linux (tainted) driver, the offsets to the edges
    > of the screen are perfect. The display control panel
    > of an OS, may also offer adjustments for positional offset.
    >
    > For weird resolution choices, sometimes the video card
    > will fill unused regions with "black bars", and there
    > may be an option such as "preserve aspect ratio" or the like.
    > I don't recommend such a setting - on my computer here,
    > that resulted in the LCD monitor on-screen display reporting
    > "out of range" for the video output, so no image at all was
    > rendered. YMMV.
    >
    > Paul
     
  13. Beyond X

    Beyond X Flightless Bird

    Thank you very much for advice.
    This problem of mine automatically solved when I installed a fresh copy
    of WinXP followed by downloading updated video drivers. I do not know
    and cannot say what was wrong in the previous settings. But I tried
    three different DVI cables in vain, so I do not think it was defective
    cables.
    I still am unable to upgrade from SP2 to SP3 despite repeated reboots
    with automatic update turned on.

    Robert Kochem wrote:
    > Beyond X wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Thanks for suggestion. This brings up another problem I have to ask for
    >>a solution about. For unknown reason(s) the DVI-I or DVI-D connection
    >>does not work in my system, that is, when connection to the monitor is
    >>switched to DVI, the monitor shows blank/black screen as if a monitor is
    >>not connected to the computer (WinXP Home SP2).

    >
    >
    > May be the DVI cable is defect or your Monitor misinterprets the signal. My
    > old graphics card used to send a signal with a refresh rate of ~59.9999Hz.
    > If screws on the DVI connectors were not 100% tighten the Monitor did not
    > display anything because the minimum refresh rate supported is 60Hz...
    >
    > Robert
     
  14. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    Beyond X wrote:
    > Thank you very much for advice.
    > This problem of mine automatically solved when I installed a fresh copy
    > of WinXP followed by downloading updated video drivers. I do not know
    > and cannot say what was wrong in the previous settings. But I tried
    > three different DVI cables in vain, so I do not think it was defective
    > cables.
    > I still am unable to upgrade from SP2 to SP3 despite repeated reboots
    > with automatic update turned on.
    >


    How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389
     
  15. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    What I meant by manually updating is:
    Go to www.microsoft.com search for SP3 and download and install it.
    "Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    news:4C3BD62A.9010900@nomail.com...
    > If you meant to tinker settings in device manager, I don't know how I can
    > change the resolution numbers (aspect ratio). I just had believed that
    > resolution numbers were predetermined at the hardware desin stage, that
    > is, I did not know they can be changed by software (drivers) that can be
    > downloaded afterwards.
    > Beyond X
    >
    > Unknown wrote:
    >> What happens when you manually try to update?
    >> "Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:4C3B7D3F.7070000@nomail.com...
    >>
    >>>Thanks a lot for information.
    >>>My video card is Diamond Radeon HD4350 PCIe (512M8) which I purchased
    >>>very recently and which offers several resolutions but the aspect ratio
    >>>is all 4:3.
    >>>I ended up to install a fresh copy of XP in a new partition. For the
    >>>videocard, I downloaded newer drivers, which indeed offered several
    >>>resolutions corresponding to aspect ratio 16:9. Also I have the taskbar
    >>>at its normal position (bottom of the screen) even with the highest
    >>>resolution.
    >>>Only problem I still have is this: My XP is SP2 and I am unable to
    >>>upgrade to SP3 even though automatic update has been on. What am I
    >>>missing?
    >>>Thanks again to all folks from the bottom of my heart.
    >>>BeyondX
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>I thought that the aspect ratios were a design character of individual
    >>>cards (hardware) and that the design of such a new card must have
    >>>considered wide screen monitors like mine until I learned from you that
    >>>it is changeable by drivers (software). So I was encouraged and visited
    >>>Diamond's website and attempted to update drivers for this
    >>>particular card.
    >>>
    >>>Beyond X wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    >>>>images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    >>>>(23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing.
    >>>>Annoyed with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the
    >>>>highest, 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the
    >>>>aspect ratio significantly. The problem that I now face is disappearance
    >>>>of the Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical position as high
    >>>>as possible, but it does not make the taskbar reappear.
    >>>>(If I lower the monitor's resolution to or below 1600x1200, the taskbar
    >>>>reappears, but the images are distorted.)
    >>>>Can anyone help me?

    >>
    >>
     
  16. Beyond X

    Beyond X Flightless Bird

    I already visited MS download site for XP SP3. At the end it only tells
    that the best way is to turn on Automatic Update, which I already stated
    gave rise to nothing (invoked no action). When I turned to "Manually set
    up SP3", downloaded a file named WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe and
    proceeded for setting up, I ended up an error message
    : An internal error occurred. Service Pack 3 Installation did not
    complete. No explanation about what the internal error is. This is my
    situation. Is this the same reason why Automatic update does not work?
    Incidentally I have no security software installed that might interfere
    with updating. This computer has not been used for anything that might
    invite malwares infection.
    Any advice or suggestion?

    Unknown wrote:
    > What I meant by manually updating is:
    > Go to www.microsoft.com search for SP3 and download and install it.
    > "Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    > news:4C3BD62A.9010900@nomail.com...
    >
    >>If you meant to tinker settings in device manager, I don't know how I can
    >>change the resolution numbers (aspect ratio). I just had believed that
    >>resolution numbers were predetermined at the hardware desin stage, that
    >>is, I did not know they can be changed by software (drivers) that can be
    >>downloaded afterwards.
    >>Beyond X
    >>
    >>Unknown wrote:
    >>
    >>>What happens when you manually try to update?
    >>>"Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    >>>news:4C3B7D3F.7070000@nomail.com...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Thanks a lot for information.
    >>>>My video card is Diamond Radeon HD4350 PCIe (512M8) which I purchased
    >>>>very recently and which offers several resolutions but the aspect ratio
    >>>>is all 4:3.
    >>>>I ended up to install a fresh copy of XP in a new partition. For the
    >>>>videocard, I downloaded newer drivers, which indeed offered several
    >>>>resolutions corresponding to aspect ratio 16:9. Also I have the taskbar
    >>>>at its normal position (bottom of the screen) even with the highest
    >>>>resolution.
    >>>>Only problem I still have is this: My XP is SP2 and I am unable to
    >>>>upgrade to SP3 even though automatic update has been on. What am I
    >>>>missing?
    >>>>Thanks again to all folks from the bottom of my heart.
    >>>>BeyondX
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>I thought that the aspect ratios were a design character of individual
    >>>>cards (hardware) and that the design of such a new card must have
    >>>>considered wide screen monitors like mine until I learned from you that
    >>>>it is changeable by drivers (software). So I was encouraged and visited
    >>>>Diamond's website and attempted to update drivers for this
    >>>>particular card.
    >>>>
    >>>>Beyond X wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    >>>>>images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    >>>>>(23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing.
    >>>>>Annoyed with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the
    >>>>>highest, 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the
    >>>>>aspect ratio significantly. The problem that I now face is disappearance
    >>>>>of the Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical position as high
    >>>>>as possible, but it does not make the taskbar reappear.
    >>>>>(If I lower the monitor's resolution to or below 1600x1200, the taskbar
    >>>>>reappears, but the images are distorted.)
    >>>>>Can anyone help me?
    >>>
    >>>

    >
     
  17. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    I had a similar experience. I simply tried again and it was successful.
    "Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    news:4C3EA29A.8020807@nomail.com...
    >I already visited MS download site for XP SP3. At the end it only tells
    >that the best way is to turn on Automatic Update, which I already stated
    >gave rise to nothing (invoked no action). When I turned to "Manually set up
    >SP3", downloaded a file named WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe and
    >proceeded for setting up, I ended up an error message : An internal error
    >occurred. Service Pack 3 Installation did not complete. No explanation
    >about what the internal error is. This is my situation. Is this the same
    >reason why Automatic update does not work?
    > Incidentally I have no security software installed that might interfere
    > with updating. This computer has not been used for anything that might
    > invite malwares infection.
    > Any advice or suggestion?
    >
    > Unknown wrote:
    >> What I meant by manually updating is:
    >> Go to www.microsoft.com search for SP3 and download and install it.
    >> "Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:4C3BD62A.9010900@nomail.com...
    >>
    >>>If you meant to tinker settings in device manager, I don't know how I can
    >>>change the resolution numbers (aspect ratio). I just had believed that
    >>>resolution numbers were predetermined at the hardware desin stage, that
    >>>is, I did not know they can be changed by software (drivers) that can be
    >>>downloaded afterwards.
    >>>Beyond X
    >>>
    >>>Unknown wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>What happens when you manually try to update?
    >>>>"Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>news:4C3B7D3F.7070000@nomail.com...
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>Thanks a lot for information.
    >>>>>My video card is Diamond Radeon HD4350 PCIe (512M8) which I purchased
    >>>>>very recently and which offers several resolutions but the aspect ratio
    >>>>>is all 4:3.
    >>>>>I ended up to install a fresh copy of XP in a new partition. For the
    >>>>>videocard, I downloaded newer drivers, which indeed offered several
    >>>>>resolutions corresponding to aspect ratio 16:9. Also I have the taskbar
    >>>>>at its normal position (bottom of the screen) even with the highest
    >>>>>resolution.
    >>>>>Only problem I still have is this: My XP is SP2 and I am unable to
    >>>>>upgrade to SP3 even though automatic update has been on. What am I
    >>>>>missing?
    >>>>>Thanks again to all folks from the bottom of my heart.
    >>>>>BeyondX
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I thought that the aspect ratios were a design character of individual
    >>>>>cards (hardware) and that the design of such a new card must have
    >>>>>considered wide screen monitors like mine until I learned from you that
    >>>>>it is changeable by drivers (software). So I was encouraged and visited
    >>>>>Diamond's website and attempted to update drivers for this
    >>>>>particular card.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Beyond X wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    >>>>>>images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    >>>>>>(23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing.
    >>>>>>Annoyed with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the
    >>>>>>highest, 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the
    >>>>>>aspect ratio significantly. The problem that I now face is
    >>>>>>disappearance of the Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical
    >>>>>>position as high as possible, but it does not make the taskbar
    >>>>>>reappear.
    >>>>>>(If I lower the monitor's resolution to or below 1600x1200, the
    >>>>>>taskbar reappears, but the images are distorted.)
    >>>>>>Can anyone help me?
    >>>>
    >>>>

    >>
     
  18. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    You may want to download and SAVE. Then at a later time click on the
    download and install.
    In event of an error you won't have to download again.
    "Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    news:4C3EA29A.8020807@nomail.com...
    >I already visited MS download site for XP SP3. At the end it only tells
    >that the best way is to turn on Automatic Update, which I already stated
    >gave rise to nothing (invoked no action). When I turned to "Manually set up
    >SP3", downloaded a file named WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe and
    >proceeded for setting up, I ended up an error message : An internal error
    >occurred. Service Pack 3 Installation did not complete. No explanation
    >about what the internal error is. This is my situation. Is this the same
    >reason why Automatic update does not work?
    > Incidentally I have no security software installed that might interfere
    > with updating. This computer has not been used for anything that might
    > invite malwares infection.
    > Any advice or suggestion?
    >
    > Unknown wrote:
    >> What I meant by manually updating is:
    >> Go to www.microsoft.com search for SP3 and download and install it.
    >> "Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:4C3BD62A.9010900@nomail.com...
    >>
    >>>If you meant to tinker settings in device manager, I don't know how I can
    >>>change the resolution numbers (aspect ratio). I just had believed that
    >>>resolution numbers were predetermined at the hardware desin stage, that
    >>>is, I did not know they can be changed by software (drivers) that can be
    >>>downloaded afterwards.
    >>>Beyond X
    >>>
    >>>Unknown wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>What happens when you manually try to update?
    >>>>"Beyond X" <donotmail@nomail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>news:4C3B7D3F.7070000@nomail.com...
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>Thanks a lot for information.
    >>>>>My video card is Diamond Radeon HD4350 PCIe (512M8) which I purchased
    >>>>>very recently and which offers several resolutions but the aspect ratio
    >>>>>is all 4:3.
    >>>>>I ended up to install a fresh copy of XP in a new partition. For the
    >>>>>videocard, I downloaded newer drivers, which indeed offered several
    >>>>>resolutions corresponding to aspect ratio 16:9. Also I have the taskbar
    >>>>>at its normal position (bottom of the screen) even with the highest
    >>>>>resolution.
    >>>>>Only problem I still have is this: My XP is SP2 and I am unable to
    >>>>>upgrade to SP3 even though automatic update has been on. What am I
    >>>>>missing?
    >>>>>Thanks again to all folks from the bottom of my heart.
    >>>>>BeyondX
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I thought that the aspect ratios were a design character of individual
    >>>>>cards (hardware) and that the design of such a new card must have
    >>>>>considered wide screen monitors like mine until I learned from you that
    >>>>>it is changeable by drivers (software). So I was encouraged and visited
    >>>>>Diamond's website and attempted to update drivers for this
    >>>>>particular card.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Beyond X wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
    >>>>>>images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
    >>>>>>(23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing.
    >>>>>>Annoyed with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the
    >>>>>>highest, 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the
    >>>>>>aspect ratio significantly. The problem that I now face is
    >>>>>>disappearance of the Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical
    >>>>>>position as high as possible, but it does not make the taskbar
    >>>>>>reappear.
    >>>>>>(If I lower the monitor's resolution to or below 1600x1200, the
    >>>>>>taskbar reappears, but the images are distorted.)
    >>>>>>Can anyone help me?
    >>>>
    >>>>

    >>
     
  19. Robert Kochem

    Robert Kochem Flightless Bird

    Beyond X wrote:

    > complete. No explanation about what the internal error is. This is my
    > situation. Is this the same reason why Automatic update does not work?
    > Incidentally I have no security software installed that might interfere
    > with updating. This computer has not been used for anything that might
    > invite malwares infection.
    > Any advice or suggestion?


    If you already performed a fresh installation I would recommend to create a
    WinXP installation with SP3 included (Slipsteaming the service pack). If
    you don't want to do it manuelly you can use a tool such a nLite to
    slipstream the SP and create the new install CD.
    Using the new CD you can set-up a fresh installation.

    Robert
     

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