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System Restore question.

J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
Does she have inbred relatives?

Bill in Co. wrote:
> I wonder if he is by any chance related to Sarah Palin?
> (Only at least she's making some big bucks; so in that sense, and *only* in
> that sense, she isn't).
>
> Peter Foldes wrote:
>> Pegasus
>>
>> Twayne becomes and turns into a complete fool when he posts defending the
>> use and advantages of Registry Cleaners
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>>
>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>
>> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:eI2kilO3KHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>> news:-O#2iv9N3KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> <snip>
>>>> Almost NO ONE, but this small group of idiots use the term "SNAKE OIL"
>>>> when they talk about registry cleaners. Twayne`
>>> It always amuses me when someone attempts to strengthen his weak
>>> technical
>>> reasoning with abusive language.

>
>
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Frank Martin wrote:
> "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message
> news:-OlP$lUF3KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Frank Martin wrote:
>>> "John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.zyx> wrote in message
>>> news:uscnZRC3KHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Frank Martin wrote:
>>>>> I have WindowsXP SP3
>>>>>
>>>>> Where does the System Restore program reside? I want
>>>>> to
>>>>> add it to the programs to be left alone in CCleaner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would I have to add some registry entry too?
>>>>>
>>>>> Desperate, Frank
>>>> ====================================
>>>> %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
>>>>
>>>> C:/System Volume Information\_restore
>>>>
>>>> I don't think System Restore is affected by CCleaner
>>>> (at least I've never had an issue with it).
>>>>
>>>> However...if you open CCleaner and go to...Tools /
>>>> System Restore button...you can manually remove
>>>> one or more restore points.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My ideal was to leave about 3 Restore points in.

>>
>> You can *NOT* arbitrarily remove restore points (and
>> expect System Restore to work afterwards).
>>
>> You can delete all but the most recent restore point
>> (using the built-in Disk Cleanup tool (cleanmgr.exe).
>>
>> Or you can reduce the amount of space allocated to System
>> Restore from its default of 12% of your partition to about
>> 1 GB (using the System Restore tab/Settings button from
>> System Properties). As you reduce the allocated space,
>> System Restore automatically removes restore points,
>> starting with the oldest.
>>
>> --
>> Lem
>>
>> Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:
>> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html

>
>
> System Restore has saved my life on several occasions, even
> when installing new printers, so I want to keep a few points
> on the system.
>
> Can I store the extra restore points on a memory stick? Is
> there a way to export them via software or should I just
> copy over some files?
>
> The C:/System Volume Information\*.* folder seems to hold
> the restore info; is this enough to transfer over?


System Restore is not designed to work that way. By forcing it to do so,
you are inviting problems, and you will find SR will no longer be
effective.

If you are interested in disaster recovery (and it is good that you
are), you should instead make regular images of your *entire* hard drive
(or at the very least your C: partition that contains the OS and all the
programs, preferences, etc.). This way, if your life needs to be saved,
you will be in much better shape than relying on SR alone. Acronis True
Image is one of the better imaging progams. DriveImageXML works, too,
but you won't be able to make incremental images with it (but at least
it's freeware).

Don't get me wrong. SR can be a very useful tool, too. If you want to
keep "a few points on the system," that is a very good idea. Just know
that these will be the most recent points (which is as it should be). If
currently there is only one point, it is because one of two reasons:

1. There is a program installed on your PC causing this to happen.

2. You are low on free hard drive space.

To answer the second reason, how large is your hard drive and how much
free space is on there? If there are partitions, then answer for the
partition that contains XP. (Hopefully your programs are on that
partition, too!)

To learn more about the first reason, see this page (if you haven't done
so already):

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html

Lastly, ERUNT may come in handy for you:

http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

ERUNT is not essential (especially if you choose to regularly image your
drive/partition), but it would be one extra layer of something to fall
back on if need be.
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Still playing the ignorant fool I see. Well let me congratulate
you-----You're winning.
"Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:-O%232iv9N3KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> In news:eiFd6QC3KHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
> Pegasus [MVP] <news@microsoft.com> typed:
>> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:-Or8c58B3KHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> I have WindowsXP SP3
>>>
>>> Where does the System Restore program reside? I want to
>>> add it to the programs to be left alone in CCleaner.
>>>
>>> Would I have to add some registry entry too?
>>>
>>> Desperate, Frank

>>
>> If you're desperate now, brace yourself for some real
>> desparation when CCCleaner damages your Windows
>> installation. Like most registry cleaners it is useless (at
>> best) and destructive (at worst). Have you ever used a
>> stopwatch to actually measure the numerous benefits it
>> boasts about or do you rely on the warm feeling that you
>> get inside when reading about the wonderful things it will
>> do? Many people use the word "snake oil" when talking about
>> registry cleaners.
>> The System Restore program is called rstrui.exe and it
>> normally dwells in the folder c:/windows\restore.

>
> Nah, what he needs to brace himself for is the spew from a closed minded
> ignoramus who is so far behind the times in technology and capabilities
> that he needs to consistantly spew his garbage, known to be garbage by
> millions of users, to this group's participants.
>
> Go ahead and ask him to cite any verfiable evidence of his allegations
> against cleaners; he can't do it. What he does do is libel and disparage
> users of anything that automates or assists in the management of registry
> problems, claiming he knows what he talks about but has never, ever cited
> anything but self-serving posts written by another of his small gang of
> idiots out to lie to anyone that will listen.
> Good registry cleaners are excellent tools. Yet this myopic slob seems
> to never mention anything but the fact that they "speed up" or not, a
> computer. He won't admit that, and doesn't realize apparently, that a
> registry cleaner can easily result in a 20S shortening of boot times,
> depending on the problems present IN the registry. 20S is the most
> noticeable and a common increment due to defaults. Most of the time it's
> true that one won't notice the speed ups that result from a registry
> cleaner, but that as a sole issue totally ignores the many other tasks
> such programs do and problems it can alleviate.
> The most "evidence" he's ever referred to is a "lot" (and there are
> actually very, very few of them) of other posts from unknown posters
> claiming their machines were trashed after using a registry cleaner. He
> seems to think the Registry is one very complex, impossible for the
> average bear to learn, part of the OS when in reality just the opposite is
> true if one wishes to look into it at all.
>
> Almost NO ONE, but this small group of idiots use the term "SNAKE OIL"
> when they talk about registry cleaners. Often the first time one hears
> that word is from them; not from open minds who have taken the time to
> gather knowledge and experience on the subject.
>
> As for being destructive, I have NEVER, in all the machines I have worked
> on and used registry cleaners on, had one cause any damage to a system.
> But I HAVE seen MS tools like chkdsk completely remove any ability to boot
> the subject machine. In some, not many, cases chkdsk can misinterpret some
> corrupted areas and in attempting to fix them, stop the machine from
> boothing. I've also seen a LOT of programs that screw up on install,
> including Microsoft applications, which a Registry Cleaner can quite
> quickly and easily repair for you if you can't get System Restore et al to
> help out with.
>
> His main set of abilities is rationalizing anything he wants to be true
> and to make everyone think the way he does, or else be sbjected to his
> condescending, ignorant further misinformation and stated opinions about
> how sorry you're going to be for not thinking the same way he does.
>
> Thanks again for this opportunity to expose this wrong-headed, unethical
> and ignorant spew of misinformation he just loves to spead any time a
> registry cleaner is mentioned.
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`
>
>
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Don't you really mean Nancy Pelosi?
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:%23giFD9P3KHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I wonder if he is by any chance related to Sarah Palin?
> (Only at least she's making some big bucks; so in that sense, and *only*
> in that sense, she isn't).
>
> Peter Foldes wrote:
>> Pegasus
>>
>> Twayne becomes and turns into a complete fool when he posts defending the
>> use and advantages of Registry Cleaners
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>>
>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>
>> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:eI2kilO3KHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>> news:-O#2iv9N3KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> <snip>
>>>> Almost NO ONE, but this small group of idiots use the term "SNAKE
>>>> OIL"
>>>> when they talk about registry cleaners. Twayne`
>>>
>>> It always amuses me when someone attempts to strengthen his weak
>>> technical
>>> reasoning with abusive language.

>
>
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Twayne cannot take any initiative is solving problems caused by registry
cleaners because
he doesn't even know what a registry is. If you do not believe that, just
ask him a technical
question about the registry.
"John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:ulzPnoW3KHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Twayne wrote:
>> In news:eiFd6QC3KHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
>> Pegasus [MVP] <news@microsoft.com> typed:
>>> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:-Or8c58B3KHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> I have WindowsXP SP3
>>>>
>>>> Where does the System Restore program reside? I want to
>>>> add it to the programs to be left alone in CCleaner.
>>>>
>>>> Would I have to add some registry entry too?
>>>>
>>>> Desperate, Frank
>>> If you're desperate now, brace yourself for some real
>>> desparation when CCCleaner damages your Windows
>>> installation. Like most registry cleaners it is useless (at
>>> best) and destructive (at worst). Have you ever used a
>>> stopwatch to actually measure the numerous benefits it
>>> boasts about or do you rely on the warm feeling that you
>>> get inside when reading about the wonderful things it will
>>> do? Many people use the word "snake oil" when talking about
>>> registry cleaners.
>>> The System Restore program is called rstrui.exe and it
>>> normally dwells in the folder c:/windows\restore.

>>
>> Nah, what he needs to brace himself for is the spew from a closed minded
>> ignoramus who is so far behind the times in technology and capabilities
>> that he needs to consistantly spew his garbage, known to be garbage by
>> millions of users, to this group's participants.
>>
>> Go ahead and ask him to cite any verfiable evidence of his allegations
>> against cleaners; he can't do it.

>
> What a joke! We do see posts with evidence of damages done by these
> useless cleaners in these groups but when these posts show up you
> conveniently disappear, when it comes to registry cleaners you have a case
> of selective blindness...
>
> Not *ONCE* have you ever taken the initiative to help anyone in need after
> they have experienced difficulties caused by these cleaners, yet anytime
> someone exposes these useless cleaners for what they are you immediately
> come out with your ridiculous diatribe.
 
B

Bill in Co.

Flightless Bird
Oh, come on now. The registry is a simple database, where you pick out
bridal gifts. Didn't he already cover that?

Unknown wrote:
> Twayne cannot take any initiative is solving problems caused by registry
> cleaners because
> he doesn't even know what a registry is. If you do not believe that, just
> ask him a technical
> question about the registry.
> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:ulzPnoW3KHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Twayne wrote:
>>> In news:eiFd6QC3KHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
>>> Pegasus [MVP] <news@microsoft.com> typed:
>>>> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:-Or8c58B3KHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I have WindowsXP SP3
>>>>>
>>>>> Where does the System Restore program reside? I want to
>>>>> add it to the programs to be left alone in CCleaner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would I have to add some registry entry too?
>>>>>
>>>>> Desperate, Frank
>>>> If you're desperate now, brace yourself for some real
>>>> desparation when CCCleaner damages your Windows
>>>> installation. Like most registry cleaners it is useless (at
>>>> best) and destructive (at worst). Have you ever used a
>>>> stopwatch to actually measure the numerous benefits it
>>>> boasts about or do you rely on the warm feeling that you
>>>> get inside when reading about the wonderful things it will
>>>> do? Many people use the word "snake oil" when talking about
>>>> registry cleaners.
>>>> The System Restore program is called rstrui.exe and it
>>>> normally dwells in the folder c:/windows\restore.
>>>
>>> Nah, what he needs to brace himself for is the spew from a closed minded
>>> ignoramus who is so far behind the times in technology and capabilities
>>> that he needs to consistantly spew his garbage, known to be garbage by
>>> millions of users, to this group's participants.
>>>
>>> Go ahead and ask him to cite any verfiable evidence of his allegations
>>> against cleaners; he can't do it.

>>
>> What a joke! We do see posts with evidence of damages done by these
>> useless cleaners in these groups but when these posts show up you
>> conveniently disappear, when it comes to registry cleaners you have a
>> case
>> of selective blindness...
>>
>> Not *ONCE* have you ever taken the initiative to help anyone in need
>> after
>> they have experienced difficulties caused by these cleaners, yet anytime
>> someone exposes these useless cleaners for what they are you immediately
>> come out with your ridiculous diatribe.
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
But he didn't say if it was at Sears or JCPenney.
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uK7YEKa3KHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Oh, come on now. The registry is a simple database, where you pick out
> bridal gifts. Didn't he already cover that?
>
> Unknown wrote:
>> Twayne cannot take any initiative is solving problems caused by registry
>> cleaners because
>> he doesn't even know what a registry is. If you do not believe that, just
>> ask him a technical
>> question about the registry.
>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> news:ulzPnoW3KHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Twayne wrote:
>>>> In news:eiFd6QC3KHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
>>>> Pegasus [MVP] <news@microsoft.com> typed:
>>>>> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>> news:-Or8c58B3KHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> I have WindowsXP SP3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where does the System Restore program reside? I want to
>>>>>> add it to the programs to be left alone in CCleaner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would I have to add some registry entry too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Desperate, Frank
>>>>> If you're desperate now, brace yourself for some real
>>>>> desparation when CCCleaner damages your Windows
>>>>> installation. Like most registry cleaners it is useless (at
>>>>> best) and destructive (at worst). Have you ever used a
>>>>> stopwatch to actually measure the numerous benefits it
>>>>> boasts about or do you rely on the warm feeling that you
>>>>> get inside when reading about the wonderful things it will
>>>>> do? Many people use the word "snake oil" when talking about
>>>>> registry cleaners.
>>>>> The System Restore program is called rstrui.exe and it
>>>>> normally dwells in the folder c:/windows\restore.
>>>>
>>>> Nah, what he needs to brace himself for is the spew from a closed
>>>> minded
>>>> ignoramus who is so far behind the times in technology and capabilities
>>>> that he needs to consistantly spew his garbage, known to be garbage by
>>>> millions of users, to this group's participants.
>>>>
>>>> Go ahead and ask him to cite any verfiable evidence of his allegations
>>>> against cleaners; he can't do it.
>>>
>>> What a joke! We do see posts with evidence of damages done by these
>>> useless cleaners in these groups but when these posts show up you
>>> conveniently disappear, when it comes to registry cleaners you have a
>>> case
>>> of selective blindness...
>>>
>>> Not *ONCE* have you ever taken the initiative to help anyone in need
>>> after
>>> they have experienced difficulties caused by these cleaners, yet anytime
>>> someone exposes these useless cleaners for what they are you immediately
>>> come out with your ridiculous diatribe.

>
>
 
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