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"Switch User" vs. "Lock Screen" keyboard shortcut?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Yousuf Khan, Sep 4, 2010.

  1. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:34:30 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

    > On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:55:46 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    > <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >>On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:47:04 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 9/5/2010 1:32 PM, Frank wrote:
    >>>> On 9/5/2010 7:47 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    >>>>> Not exactly what I was thinking of, as I wanted to avoid using the mouse
    >>>>> completely, but I'll give it a try.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Yousuf Khan
    >>>>
    >>>> You don't need to use a mouse at all. Do Alt+F4, then use your keyboard
    >>>> arrows to navigate to desired setting, then use enter on selected command.
    >>>
    >>> Uh, maybe I'll modify what I just said, I wanted to avoid the mouse
    >>> *and* use a single keyboard combo, like before.
    >>>
    >>> Besides, the Alt-F4 method won't work if you're sitting in anything
    >>> other than the empty desktop. If you're sitting in some application,
    >>> you'd close that application. So you'd have to click on the desktop with
    >>> the mouse anyways.
    >>>
    >>> Yousuf Khan

    >>
    >>Or use Alt-Tab.

    >
    > Does that get you to the desktop in Win 7? In previous versions of
    > Windows, Alt-Tab only cycles through the open application windows.


    You caught me :)

    I had lost touch with the subject of the thread. Thanks for correcting
    me.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  2. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:11:03 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

    > On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:18:47 -0500, "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Hi, Yousuf.
    >>
    >>Am I missing something here? Why not just press Start, <Left>, <Left>,
    >><Down>?
    >>
    >>RC

    >
    > Maybe his keyboard is like mine; i.e., missing the Start key? :)


    I think (as do you, I bet) he means Flag, right, right, up, ... (or even
    Windows key, right, right, w).

    "Flag" is my little joke for the Windows key.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  3. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 9/7/2010 5:47 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    > On 9/5/2010 1:32 PM, Frank wrote:
    >> On 9/5/2010 7:47 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    >>> Not exactly what I was thinking of, as I wanted to avoid using the mouse
    >>> completely, but I'll give it a try.
    >>>
    >>> Yousuf Khan

    >>
    >> You don't need to use a mouse at all. Do Alt+F4, then use your keyboard
    >> arrows to navigate to desired setting, then use enter on selected
    >> command.

    >
    > Uh, maybe I'll modify what I just said, I wanted to avoid the mouse
    > *and* use a single keyboard combo, like before.


    Win+L is only the first of 3-4 clicks/arrow moves before anything happens.
    There is no such thing as "a single keyboard combo", unless you have a
    programmable keyboard.

    >
    > Besides, the Alt-F4 method won't work if you're sitting in anything
    > other than the empty desktop. If you're sitting in some application,
    > you'd close that application.


    No, they will close automatically.

    So you'd have to click on the desktop with
    > the mouse anyways.


    Win+L requires at least 3 either mouse clicks or arrow/enter moves.
    >
    > Yousuf Khan
     
  4. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 09/08/2010 02:42 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    > On 9/5/2010 11:28 AM, Alias wrote:
    >> Windows 7 is very mouse oriented in comparison to XP. If you want
    >> keyboard action for these types of things, download the DVD here:
    >> http://www.linuxmint.com/ It's free.
    >>

    >
    > No thanks, you don't have to advocate for Linux with me, I'm already
    > using Ubuntu. But that's a Linux and this is Windows, each has its own
    > set of problems and no need to confuse them.
    >
    > Yousuf Khan


    I used to use Ubuntu but after installing Mint, I left Ubuntu.

    --
    Alias
     
  5. Zaphod Beeblebrox

    Zaphod Beeblebrox Flightless Bird

    "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    news:101phtz2shs9i$.1gjlcb2zfxwo5.dlg@40tude.net...
    > On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:11:03 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:18:47 -0500, "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Hi, Yousuf.
    >>>
    >>>Am I missing something here? Why not just press Start, <Left>,
    >>><Left>,
    >>><Down>?
    >>>
    >>>RC

    >>
    >> Maybe his keyboard is like mine; i.e., missing the Start key? :)

    >
    > I think (as do you, I bet) he means Flag, right, right, up, ... (or
    > even
    > Windows key, right, right, w).
    >
    > "Flag" is my little joke for the Windows key.
    >


    And even if the keyboard has no "flag", Control+Escape works a treat.

    --
    Zaphod

    Arthur Dent, speaking to Trillian about Zaphod:
    "So, two heads is what does it for a girl?"
    "...Anything else he's got two of?"
     
  6. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:42:41 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

    >On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:11:03 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:18:47 -0500, "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Hi, Yousuf.
    >>>
    >>>Am I missing something here? Why not just press Start, <Left>, <Left>,
    >>><Down>?
    >>>
    >>>RC

    >>
    >> Maybe his keyboard is like mine; i.e., missing the Start key? :)

    >
    >I think (as do you, I bet) he means Flag, right, right, up, ... (or even
    >Windows key, right, right, w).
    >
    >"Flag" is my little joke for the Windows key.


    We have an awesome office surplus store here, and in 2001 I picked up
    11 IBM keyboards for $8. Vintage early 90's, I'm guessing. These are
    the heavy suckers that weigh about 5 pounds and the keys really let
    you know that you're typing. No Windows keys anywhere, but of course
    the Ctrl-Esc shortcut works to bring up the Start menu.
     
  7. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:03:54 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

    > On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:42:41 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    > <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >>On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:11:03 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:18:47 -0500, "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Hi, Yousuf.
    >>>>
    >>>>Am I missing something here? Why not just press Start, <Left>, <Left>,
    >>>><Down>?
    >>>>
    >>>>RC
    >>>
    >>> Maybe his keyboard is like mine; i.e., missing the Start key? :)

    >>
    >>I think (as do you, I bet) he means Flag, right, right, up, ... (or even
    >>Windows key, right, right, w).
    >>
    >>"Flag" is my little joke for the Windows key.

    >
    > We have an awesome office surplus store here, and in 2001 I picked up
    > 11 IBM keyboards for $8. Vintage early 90's, I'm guessing. These are
    > the heavy suckers that weigh about 5 pounds and the keys really let
    > you know that you're typing. No Windows keys anywhere, but of course
    > the Ctrl-Esc shortcut works to bring up the Start menu.


    Ah - the days of wooden ships, iron men, and IBM keyboards.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  8. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    On 9/7/2010 7:49 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    > On 9/5/2010 2:41 PM, Bob I wrote:
    >> Mouse? CTRL+ALT+DEL, Down Arrow, Enter.
    >>
    >> OR Alt+F4, Up Arrow, Enter
    >>
    >> Don't need no steeenking mouse!! ;-)
    >>

    >
    > Is there any kind of way of doing user-defined shortcut keys, where you
    > could record a macro for example, that can be executed with one keystroke?
    >
    > Yousuf Khan


    Grab a copy of AutoIt from the authors site. Free but he accepts donations.
     
  9. Yousuf Khan

    Yousuf Khan Flightless Bird

    On 08/09/2010 7:09 AM, Alias wrote:
    > On 09/08/2010 02:42 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    >> On 9/5/2010 11:28 AM, Alias wrote:
    >>> Windows 7 is very mouse oriented in comparison to XP. If you want
    >>> keyboard action for these types of things, download the DVD here:
    >>> http://www.linuxmint.com/ It's free.
    >>>

    >>
    >> No thanks, you don't have to advocate for Linux with me, I'm already
    >> using Ubuntu. But that's a Linux and this is Windows, each has its own
    >> set of problems and no need to confuse them.
    >>
    >> Yousuf Khan

    >
    > I used to use Ubuntu but after installing Mint, I left Ubuntu.
    >


    Good for you.

    Yousuf Khan
     
  10. Yousuf Khan

    Yousuf Khan Flightless Bird

    On 07/09/2010 9:34 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
    > On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:55:46 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    >> Or use Alt-Tab.

    >
    > Does that get you to the desktop in Win 7? In previous versions of
    > Windows, Alt-Tab only cycles through the open application windows.
    >


    Alt-Tab won't do it, but the Win-Tab will.

    Yousuf Khan
     
  11. Yousuf Khan

    Yousuf Khan Flightless Bird

    On 07/09/2010 10:18 PM, R. C. White wrote:
    > Hi, Yousuf.
    >
    > Am I missing something here? Why not just press Start, <Left>, <Left>,
    > <Down>?
    >
    > RC


    Yeah, the idea is to get from the desktop to the user login screen in
    one keystroke, like you could in XP.

    Yousuf Khan
     
  12. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 9/10/2010 5:38 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    > On 07/09/2010 10:18 PM, R. C. White wrote:
    >> Hi, Yousuf.
    >>
    >> Am I missing something here? Why not just press Start, <Left>, <Left>,
    >> <Down>?
    >>
    >> RC

    >
    > Yeah, the idea is to get from the desktop to the user login screen in
    > one keystroke, like you could in XP.
    >
    > Yousuf Khan


    You've already been told, by me and others, that Alt+F4 brings up that
    dialogue, plus more, so what is your problem?
     
  13. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:33:59 -0700, Frank <fb@win7x32.esd> wrote:

    >On 9/10/2010 5:38 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    >> On 07/09/2010 10:18 PM, R. C. White wrote:
    >>> Hi, Yousuf.
    >>>
    >>> Am I missing something here? Why not just press Start, <Left>, <Left>,
    >>> <Down>?
    >>>
    >>> RC

    >>
    >> Yeah, the idea is to get from the desktop to the user login screen in
    >> one keystroke, like you could in XP.
    >>
    >> Yousuf Khan

    >
    >You've already been told, by me and others, that Alt+F4 brings up that
    >dialogue, plus more, so what is your problem?


    But it doesn't, unless you're already sitting on the desktop.
     
  14. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 9/10/2010 7:05 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
    > On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:33:59 -0700, Frank<fb@win7x32.esd> wrote:
    >
    >> On 9/10/2010 5:38 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    >>> On 07/09/2010 10:18 PM, R. C. White wrote:
    >>>> Hi, Yousuf.
    >>>>
    >>>> Am I missing something here? Why not just press Start,<Left>,<Left>,
    >>>> <Down>?
    >>>>
    >>>> RC
    >>>
    >>> Yeah, the idea is to get from the desktop to the user login screen in
    >>> one keystroke, like you could in XP.
    >>>
    >>> Yousuf Khan

    >>
    >> You've already been told, by me and others, that Alt+F4 brings up that
    >> dialogue, plus more, so what is your problem?

    >
    > But it doesn't, unless you're already sitting on the desktop.
    >

    That was a presumption on my part.
     
  15. - Bobb -

    - Bobb - Flightless Bird

    "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:4c831fbf@news.bnb-lp.com...
    > Previously in Windows XP, I used to use the Win logo + L keys to switch
    > out of an user account and login to another account.


    Is "Users must enter a user name and password to use" checked ?

    Logging off and on 'Normally' ( no shortcut) :
    on XP, did you have to enter username/password at startup ?
    Or "choose from list"

    Same thing on Win7 ? Normally

    > With Windows 7, it no longer
    > takes you to the full user login screen, instead it just takes you to a
    > current user re-login screen. You then have to click on additional menus
    > to get to the full user login screen. Is there some way to get to the
    > full-user login screen with a keyboard shortcut anymore?
    >
    > Yousuf Khan


    See

    social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7security/thread/63cea659-f6a0-412d-a0b1-952a26c1df44



    =====

    Originally he was told: (From msft newsgroup Jan 2010)



    When you first boot up your system, you'll see all users on the welcome
    screen.

    Likewise, if you log off your computer, it will return to the full list.

    However, if your screensaver is set to lock your computer, it will lock and
    return to a modified view only showing the current user. The only way to go
    back to the full list is to click "Switch user". This is by design, and
    cannot be changed.



    He does mention a reghack there - for an issue a bit different than yours
    though.

    Perhaps you'll see something in the thread.
     
  16. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:4c8acf86$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
    >
    > Yeah, the idea is to get from the desktop to the user login screen in one
    > keystroke, like you could in XP.
    >
    > Yousuf Khan


    I have not really followed this thread so you might already have been told
    this. When you want to switch users, by any means, a program is run. On my
    PC it is called tsdiscon.exe

    If you put a shortcut to it on the desktop and then change the properties of
    the shortcut by inserting a keystroke in the relevant property, it will
    immediately run and get what you seem to want. I suppose that, for example
    Ctrl Alt S would not count as one keystroke, but it is a snappy way to do
    the trick. S is short for switch of course. If you do this you will have
    to find out for yourself how to make a pretty icon for this because I don't
    do such things. Also, you might be able to use a function key, which would
    be one keystroke. I don't usually deal with function keys or single
    keystrokes because I am not a great typist and hitting the wrong key
    accidentally would be a great nuisance.
     
  17. Yousuf Khan

    Yousuf Khan Flightless Bird

    On 11/09/2010 1:55 AM, Frank wrote:
    > On 9/10/2010 7:05 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
    >> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:33:59 -0700, Frank<fb@win7x32.esd> wrote:
    >>> You've already been told, by me and others, that Alt+F4 brings up that
    >>> dialogue, plus more, so what is your problem?

    >>
    >> But it doesn't, unless you're already sitting on the desktop.
    >>

    > That was a presumption on my part.


    Win-L didn't require any presumptions, it worked globally within Windows.

    Yousuf Khan
     
  18. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 9/11/2010 12:24 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    > On 11/09/2010 1:55 AM, Frank wrote:
    >> On 9/10/2010 7:05 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
    >>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:33:59 -0700, Frank<fb@win7x32.esd> wrote:
    >>>> You've already been told, by me and others, that Alt+F4 brings up that
    >>>> dialogue, plus more, so what is your problem?
    >>>
    >>> But it doesn't, unless you're already sitting on the desktop.
    >>>

    >> That was a presumption on my part.

    >
    > Win-L didn't require any presumptions, it worked globally within Windows.
    >
    > Yousuf Khan


    WoW!
    So why did you switch to 7, seeing as how you obviously hate it so much?
    Do you still have XP? If so why not go back to it?
     
  19. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    On 9/11/2010 2:24 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    > On 11/09/2010 1:55 AM, Frank wrote:
    >> On 9/10/2010 7:05 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
    >>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:33:59 -0700, Frank<fb@win7x32.esd> wrote:
    >>>> You've already been told, by me and others, that Alt+F4 brings up that
    >>>> dialogue, plus more, so what is your problem?
    >>>
    >>> But it doesn't, unless you're already sitting on the desktop.
    >>>

    >> That was a presumption on my part.

    >
    > Win-L didn't require any presumptions, it worked globally within Windows.
    >

    Actually not, Win-L with XP on a domain = Lock PC (no user switching)
     
  20. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:4c8bd76f$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
    > On 11/09/2010 1:55 AM, Frank wrote:
    >> On 9/10/2010 7:05 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
    >>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:33:59 -0700, Frank<fb@win7x32.esd> wrote:
    >>>> You've already been told, by me and others, that Alt+F4 brings up that
    >>>> dialogue, plus more, so what is your problem?
    >>>
    >>> But it doesn't, unless you're already sitting on the desktop.
    >>>

    >> That was a presumption on my part.

    >
    > Win-L didn't require any presumptions, it worked globally within Windows.
    >
    > Yousuf Khan


    It is odd that you made that rather unpleasant reply to my message
    explaining exactly and precisely what you can do to achieve what you say you
    wanted. Are you rude to helpful people because you are tough and think that
    people who help you are feeble?
     

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