"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Rob" <nomail@example.com> wrote in message
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>> Jeff Strickland <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> I guess it doesn't matter what my experience is, or what I think it
>>>>> was,
>>>>> the
>>>>> OP asked if IE8 can be installed on XP running SP3. The asnwer is,
>>>>> yes.
>>>>
>>>> That was not his actual question. I already had a hunch that you
>>>> misread it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, what is the question? It looked pretty simple to me.
>>>
>>> I was a bit stumped by the term, imbedded, but my confusion there is
>>> that I
>>> don't see that an embedded OS should be any different than an installed
>>> OS
>>> when it comes to installing applications.
>>
>> And this assumption is based on what?
>> You know that "Windows XP embedded" is the version of the OS, do you?
>> It is quite different from normal XP.
>>
>> And MSIE isn't exactly an application running on the OS. It should have
>> been, but it isn't. It is a part of the OS.
>
>
> But the asnwer to the question is still, "yes, IE8 can be installed on to
> embedded XP/SP3.
>
> The embedded system is typically loaded into a netbook, for example. It's
> a scaled down versoin of the OS that is trimmed to fit in a confined
> environment -- such as that which exists in small packages like a netbook.
> Granted, a netbook is a small package physically, but the physical space
> isn't the discussion here. A small physical space can result in cramped
> memory space, and this is the discussion.
>
> I once worked on devices that had IE5 embedded in them so they would
> appear over the business enterprise system, giving them internet
> visibility. Basically, I put Webpages into I/O devices so we could see
> them remotely. Cool stuff. We had a device that the embedded software was
> too large to fit into memory, and a redesign of the packaging was hugely
> problematic -- both from a cost and a time perspective. We had to
> constrain the physical size of the package to an industry standard, and
> this constraint drove the selection of memory capacity. In any case, I was
> able to reduce the size of the file that was embedded so that it fit
> within the space available, and saved my company tens of thousands of
> dollars and months of development time.
>
> So, yes, I have a pretty good grasp of what embedded is. I was not
> confused by the term, but by the question. My confusion came because I own
> a Netbook machine with embedded XP/SP3 and IE8, so the premise of the
> question seemed a bit odd.
Jeff, XP Embedded is not a "stripped down" version of XP, it's what MS call
"componentized". It's actually a different beast to XP itself, it's not like
they just removed some bits and called it Embedded, you can't just slap IE8
on it that you download from the MS site. There is a special version of IE8
specifically for XP Embedded, and it took a year from the release of IE8 for
XP for the XP Embedded version to appear because the IE code had to be
changed to work with XP Embedded. IE8 for XP Embedded was only released 3
months ago.
Do you really have a Netbook with XP Embedded? I would suspect not, as
Embedded is designed for mostly non-PC applications - robots, toasters,
portable navigation, cars. Netbooks with XP normally use a stripped down
version of XP Home, but this is very different to Embedded. If you can
provide the model of Netbook that you have, and it really does have XP
Embedded with IE8 (and it would have to be a very new Netbook to do so),
then I will of course eat humble pie, but given the amount of misinformation
you post in this newsgroup I'd be surprised if this is the case.
As to the IE8/XP SP3 issue, I've got PCs here at work with IE8 on XP SP2,
and I've got PCs with XP SP3 and IE7 (as well as some with XP SP3 and IE8 of
course
); IE8 and XP SP3 are *not* directly tied together.
--
Dan
