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Charles W Davis

Flightless Bird
Win XP with only SP2 installed. I can't keep it up long enough to determine
any additional particulars. Normal or Safe mode.

Any thoughts?
 
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Sprechen sie von C++

Flightless Bird
Upgrade to SP3, if that does not work, time for a fresh install and make
sure you install all updates. On my site, I have a link to the free
Microsoft Security Essentials that you should also use to protect against
malware.

"Charles W Davis" <newsgroup@anthemwebs.com> wrote in message
news:D4438D66-D737-407C-B379-5A44C5A7B528@microsoft.com...
> Win XP with only SP2 installed. I can't keep it up long enough to
> determine any additional particulars. Normal or Safe mode.
>
> Any thoughts?
 
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Bob

Flightless Bird
Consider a faulty power supply.

"Charles W Davis" <newsgroup@anthemwebs.com> wrote in message
news:D4438D66-D737-407C-B379-5A44C5A7B528@microsoft.com...
> Win XP with only SP2 installed. I can't keep it up long enough to
> determine any additional particulars. Normal or Safe mode.
>
> Any thoughts?
 
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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Given no other information or details...

Back-up any personal data (none of which should be considered 100%
trustworthy at this point) then format the HDD & do a clean install of
Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade) will NOT
fix this!

HOW TO do a clean install of WinXP: See
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html#steps and/or Method 1 in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978307

After the clean install, you will have the equivalent of a "new computer" so
take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting
the machine to the internet or a local network (i.e., other computers) and
before using a flash drive or SDCard that isn't brand-new or hasn't been
freshly formatted:

4 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
http://www.microsoft.com/security/pypc.aspx

Other helpful references include:

HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched
(after a clean install)
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed33e121c

HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after a
clean install)
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/a066ae41add7dd2b

Tip: After getting the computer fully-patched, download/install KB971029
manually: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971029

NB: Any Norton or McAfee free-trial that came preinstalled on the computer
when you bought it will be reinstalled (but invalid) when Windows is
reinstalled. You MUST uninstall the free-trial and download/run the
appropriate removal tool before installing any updates, Windows Service
Packs or IE upgrades and before installing your new anti-virus application
(which will require WinXP SP3 to be installed).

Norton Removal Tool
ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/removal_tools/Norton_Removal_Tool.exe

McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool
http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe

Also see:

Risks & Benefits of P2P file sharing
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/data/downloadfileshare/filesharing.aspx
http://blogs.technet.com/mmpc/archive/2008/10/06/the-cost-of-free-software.aspx

Steps To Help Prevent Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/security/spyware/prevent.aspx

Steps to Help Prevent Computer Worms
http://www.microsoft.com/security/worms/prevent.aspx

Avoid Rogue Security Software!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/antivirus/rogue.aspx

If these procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in admitting
this isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local, reputable and
independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA or Geek Squad) computer repair shop.

Charles W Davis wrote:
> Win XP with only SP2 installed. I can't keep it up long enough to
> determine
> any additional particulars. Normal or Safe mode.
>
> Any thoughts?
 
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Michael

Flightless Bird
Take a remedial reading 101!!!

--


"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."


"Sprechen sie von C++" <abuse@abuse.net> wrote in message
news:-O4MBYQ$7KHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Upgrade to SP3, if that does not work, time for a fresh install and make
> sure you install all updates. On my site, I have a link to the free
> Microsoft Security Essentials that you should also use to protect against
> malware.
>
> "Charles W Davis" <newsgroup@anthemwebs.com> wrote in message
> news:D4438D66-D737-407C-B379-5A44C5A7B528@microsoft.com...
>> Win XP with only SP2 installed. I can't keep it up long enough to
>> determine any additional particulars. Normal or Safe mode.
>>
>> Any thoughts?

>
 
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HeyBub

Flightless Bird
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> Given no other information or details...
>
> Back-up any personal data (none of which should be considered 100%
> trustworthy at this point) then format the HDD & do a clean install of
> Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade)
> will NOT fix this!
>


Wouldn't it be prudent to discover the cause first rather than treating they
symptom?

If, for example, the OP has a defective power supply, or something is
drawing an excessive current causing the power supply to self-protect by
shutting down, no amount of reformatting (why format?) and reinstalling will
be of any use.
 
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boatman312

Flightless Bird
On 05/10/10 9:09 AM, HeyBub wrote:
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> Given no other information or details...
>>
>> Back-up any personal data (none of which should be considered 100%
>> trustworthy at this point) then format the HDD& do a clean install of
>> Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade)
>> will NOT fix this!
>>

>
> Wouldn't it be prudent to discover the cause first rather than treating they
> symptom?
>
> If, for example, the OP has a defective power supply, or something is
> drawing an excessive current causing the power supply to self-protect by
> shutting down, no amount of reformatting (why format?) and reinstalling will
> be of any use.
>
>

PA Bear seems to have a boilerplate response to pretty much any
question. He no longer has to think about what's really happening or
whether his response is actually relevant at all...

"When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

The other possible hardware problems are a bad CPU fan, possibly bad ram.
 
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Daave

Flightless Bird
Charles W Davis wrote:
> I can't keep it up long enough to determine any additional
> particulars.


Try Viagra?
 
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Billns

Flightless Bird
On 5/9/2010 7:19 PM, Charles W Davis wrote:
> Win XP with only SP2 installed. I can't keep it up long enough to
> determine any additional particulars. Normal or Safe mode.
>
> Any thoughts?


Can you boot from a CD? Or possibly select "last good configuration" at
start?

If not, it sure looks like a hardware problem.

Bill
 
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LD5SZRA

Flightless Bird
HeyBub wrote:
>
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> > Given no other information or details...
> >
> > Back-up any personal data (none of which should be considered 100%
> > trustworthy at this point) then format the HDD & do a clean install of
> > Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade)
> > will NOT fix this!
> >

>
> Wouldn't it be prudent to discover the cause first rather than treating they
> symptom?
>


Don't be silly. this is the first time I have to agree with Piggy
because by doing a clean install by reformatting the HD, any
corrupt DLLs or drivers are replaced by proper working ones.
Also, if there are any malwares then these too are destroyed once
and for all. The OP should also be advised to install SP3 and
then stop AUTOMATIC UPDATES because there are not required after
SP3 is installed. Firewall should also be configured in such a
way so that "No exceptions are allowed".

I didn't see piggy's original message because I am allergic to
three letters he/she uses after his name to signify membership of
the Pig Society.

hth


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LD5SZRA

Flightless Bird
Don't you think you should ask his age first? By prescribing that
drug, you will only succeed in getting him heart attack because of
a sudden rush of blood to his unused penis!

You have to take extra special care before recommending anything
like this.

hth


Daave wrote:
>
> Charles W Davis wrote:
> > I can't keep it up long enough to determine any additional
> > particulars.

>
> Try Viagra?


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LD5SZRA

Flightless Bird
Billns wrote:
>


> If not, it sure looks like a hardware problem.
>



Not necessarily. To me it looks like an OS problem and so
re-installation of it will solve the problem in no time.

hth

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