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Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Charles W Davis, May 9, 2010.

  1. Charles W Davis

    Charles W Davis Flightless Bird

    Win XP with only SP2 installed. I can't keep it up long enough to determine
    any additional particulars. Normal or Safe mode.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. Sprechen sie von C++

    Sprechen sie von C++ Flightless Bird

    Upgrade to SP3, if that does not work, time for a fresh install and make
    sure you install all updates. On my site, I have a link to the free
    Microsoft Security Essentials that you should also use to protect against
    malware.

    "Charles W Davis" <newsgroup@anthemwebs.com> wrote in message
    news:D4438D66-D737-407C-B379-5A44C5A7B528@microsoft.com...
    > Win XP with only SP2 installed. I can't keep it up long enough to
    > determine any additional particulars. Normal or Safe mode.
    >
    > Any thoughts?
     
  3. Bob

    Bob Flightless Bird

    Consider a faulty power supply.

    "Charles W Davis" <newsgroup@anthemwebs.com> wrote in message
    news:D4438D66-D737-407C-B379-5A44C5A7B528@microsoft.com...
    > Win XP with only SP2 installed. I can't keep it up long enough to
    > determine any additional particulars. Normal or Safe mode.
    >
    > Any thoughts?
     
  4. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Given no other information or details...

    Back-up any personal data (none of which should be considered 100%
    trustworthy at this point) then format the HDD & do a clean install of
    Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade) will NOT
    fix this!

    HOW TO do a clean install of WinXP: See
    http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html#steps and/or Method 1 in
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978307

    After the clean install, you will have the equivalent of a "new computer" so
    take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting
    the machine to the internet or a local network (i.e., other computers) and
    before using a flash drive or SDCard that isn't brand-new or hasn't been
    freshly formatted:

    4 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/pypc.aspx

    Other helpful references include:

    HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched
    (after a clean install)
    http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed33e121c

    HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after a
    clean install)
    http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/a066ae41add7dd2b

    Tip: After getting the computer fully-patched, download/install KB971029
    manually: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971029

    NB: Any Norton or McAfee free-trial that came preinstalled on the computer
    when you bought it will be reinstalled (but invalid) when Windows is
    reinstalled. You MUST uninstall the free-trial and download/run the
    appropriate removal tool before installing any updates, Windows Service
    Packs or IE upgrades and before installing your new anti-virus application
    (which will require WinXP SP3 to be installed).

    Norton Removal Tool
    ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/removal_tools/Norton_Removal_Tool.exe

    McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool
    http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe

    Also see:

    Risks & Benefits of P2P file sharing
    http://www.microsoft.com/protect/data/downloadfileshare/filesharing.aspx
    http://blogs.technet.com/mmpc/archive/2008/10/06/the-cost-of-free-software.aspx

    Steps To Help Prevent Spyware
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/spyware/prevent.aspx

    Steps to Help Prevent Computer Worms
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/worms/prevent.aspx

    Avoid Rogue Security Software!
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/antivirus/rogue.aspx

    If these procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in admitting
    this isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local, reputable and
    independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA or Geek Squad) computer repair shop.

    Charles W Davis wrote:
    > Win XP with only SP2 installed. I can't keep it up long enough to
    > determine
    > any additional particulars. Normal or Safe mode.
    >
    > Any thoughts?
     
  5. Michael

    Michael Flightless Bird

    Take a remedial reading 101!!!

    --


    "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."


    "Sprechen sie von C++" <abuse@abuse.net> wrote in message
    news:-O4MBYQ$7KHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Upgrade to SP3, if that does not work, time for a fresh install and make
    > sure you install all updates. On my site, I have a link to the free
    > Microsoft Security Essentials that you should also use to protect against
    > malware.
    >
    > "Charles W Davis" <newsgroup@anthemwebs.com> wrote in message
    > news:D4438D66-D737-407C-B379-5A44C5A7B528@microsoft.com...
    >> Win XP with only SP2 installed. I can't keep it up long enough to
    >> determine any additional particulars. Normal or Safe mode.
    >>
    >> Any thoughts?

    >
     
  6. HeyBub

    HeyBub Flightless Bird

    PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    > Given no other information or details...
    >
    > Back-up any personal data (none of which should be considered 100%
    > trustworthy at this point) then format the HDD & do a clean install of
    > Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade)
    > will NOT fix this!
    >


    Wouldn't it be prudent to discover the cause first rather than treating they
    symptom?

    If, for example, the OP has a defective power supply, or something is
    drawing an excessive current causing the power supply to self-protect by
    shutting down, no amount of reformatting (why format?) and reinstalling will
    be of any use.
     
  7. boatman312

    boatman312 Flightless Bird

    On 05/10/10 9:09 AM, HeyBub wrote:
    > PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    >> Given no other information or details...
    >>
    >> Back-up any personal data (none of which should be considered 100%
    >> trustworthy at this point) then format the HDD& do a clean install of
    >> Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade)
    >> will NOT fix this!
    >>

    >
    > Wouldn't it be prudent to discover the cause first rather than treating they
    > symptom?
    >
    > If, for example, the OP has a defective power supply, or something is
    > drawing an excessive current causing the power supply to self-protect by
    > shutting down, no amount of reformatting (why format?) and reinstalling will
    > be of any use.
    >
    >

    PA Bear seems to have a boilerplate response to pretty much any
    question. He no longer has to think about what's really happening or
    whether his response is actually relevant at all...

    "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

    The other possible hardware problems are a bad CPU fan, possibly bad ram.
     
  8. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    Charles W Davis wrote:
    > I can't keep it up long enough to determine any additional
    > particulars.


    Try Viagra?
     
  9. Billns

    Billns Flightless Bird

    On 5/9/2010 7:19 PM, Charles W Davis wrote:
    > Win XP with only SP2 installed. I can't keep it up long enough to
    > determine any additional particulars. Normal or Safe mode.
    >
    > Any thoughts?


    Can you boot from a CD? Or possibly select "last good configuration" at
    start?

    If not, it sure looks like a hardware problem.

    Bill
     
  10. LD5SZRA

    LD5SZRA Flightless Bird

    HeyBub wrote:
    >
    > PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    > > Given no other information or details...
    > >
    > > Back-up any personal data (none of which should be considered 100%
    > > trustworthy at this point) then format the HDD & do a clean install of
    > > Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade)
    > > will NOT fix this!
    > >

    >
    > Wouldn't it be prudent to discover the cause first rather than treating they
    > symptom?
    >


    Don't be silly. this is the first time I have to agree with Piggy
    because by doing a clean install by reformatting the HD, any
    corrupt DLLs or drivers are replaced by proper working ones.
    Also, if there are any malwares then these too are destroyed once
    and for all. The OP should also be advised to install SP3 and
    then stop AUTOMATIC UPDATES because there are not required after
    SP3 is installed. Firewall should also be configured in such a
    way so that "No exceptions are allowed".

    I didn't see piggy's original message because I am allergic to
    three letters he/she uses after his name to signify membership of
    the Pig Society.

    hth


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  11. LD5SZRA

    LD5SZRA Flightless Bird

    Don't you think you should ask his age first? By prescribing that
    drug, you will only succeed in getting him heart attack because of
    a sudden rush of blood to his unused penis!

    You have to take extra special care before recommending anything
    like this.

    hth


    Daave wrote:
    >
    > Charles W Davis wrote:
    > > I can't keep it up long enough to determine any additional
    > > particulars.

    >
    > Try Viagra?


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  12. LD5SZRA

    LD5SZRA Flightless Bird

    Billns wrote:
    >


    > If not, it sure looks like a hardware problem.
    >



    Not necessarily. To me it looks like an OS problem and so
    re-installation of it will solve the problem in no time.

    hth

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